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#1
thomas11dk
Apr 29, 2008 15:29:20 vampires cant cross running water

but what goes in under running water

any natrual lake, stream or river
or any body of water???
#2
tema69
Apr 29, 2008 15:33:40 I believe by running water it is meant water that moves in a direction. This includes rivers, streams, etc, but not lakes, ponds, etc... I might be mistaken.

På dansk ville det være rindende vand.
#3
thomas11dk
Apr 29, 2008 15:43:37 ja men så kunne man se vand rør som rindende vand
#4
tema69
Apr 29, 2008 15:53:28 Eller haveslanger. Smart nok egentligt. Nej, jeg tror der er ment floder og den slags.

Translation:
Thomas: "Yes, but then waterpipes could be seen as running water"
Tema: "Or garden hoses. Smart thinking if it worked, but I think they meant rivers and stuff"
#5
backstabbist
Apr 29, 2008 17:19:41 Maybe we can just look at it that they cant cross running water without a physical material barrier between them & the water or enough distance. There is a heavy theory flaw in the Cant Cross Running Water idea,
What about in a plane at 40000feet?
What about any movement at all when a river is waterfalling?
--- What distance from the waterfall can the Vamp be to move any direction except toward & away from the waterfall.... and what about the next waterfall?
What about Geothermal Steam?
Clouds?

Underground, piped, and otherwise barriered flows can be ignored. AGB.
Intermittant flows can be ignored.... supersoakers & lawn sprinkler runoff.
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#6
octavian_5
Apr 29, 2008 19:46:07 My personal take:

"Running water" applies to any body of water that moves in a given direction. A vampire can cross if there's some sort of material between them and the water.

Hence, a vampire with a plane and copious amounts of fuel can go anywhere.

Err...anywhere where it's night.
#7
TheRealOrion
Apr 30, 2008 12:56:29 Don't forget that the "running water" stuff is part of a very old folk legend. It's really not meant for the modern world. The various weaknesses of the vampire are basically just ways of escaping them, if you're clever. If you're a Polish peasant in 1376, you will always have garlic around the house, you almost definitely have a cross nearby, and you might be able to get your ass across a stream, if need be.

In a Modern game, I'd say we could alter the description to "natural running water, including man-made streams, but not pipes or other mechanical contrivances." Yes, there will be some loopholes, like standing directly on a hydro-electric dam or something, but unless that specific circumstance comes up in your game, just don't worry about it. It's a mystical thing, so thinking in pseudo-scientific technicalities is only going to drive you nuts.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 thomas11dk Apr 29, 2008 15:29:20	vampires cant cross running water but what goes in under running water any natrual lake, stream or river or any body of water???
#2 tema69 Apr 29, 2008 15:33:40	I believe by running water it is meant water that moves in a direction. This includes rivers, streams, etc, but not lakes, ponds, etc... I might be mistaken. På dansk ville det være rindende vand.
#3 thomas11dk Apr 29, 2008 15:43:37	ja men så kunne man se vand rør som rindende vand
#4 tema69 Apr 29, 2008 15:53:28	Eller haveslanger. Smart nok egentligt. Nej, jeg tror der er ment floder og den slags. Translation: Thomas: "Yes, but then waterpipes could be seen as running water" Tema: "Or garden hoses. Smart thinking if it worked, but I think they meant rivers and stuff"
#5 backstabbist Apr 29, 2008 17:19:41	Maybe we can just look at it that they cant cross running water without a physical material barrier between them & the water or enough distance. There is a heavy theory flaw in the Cant Cross Running Water idea, What about in a plane at 40000feet? What about any movement at all when a river is waterfalling? --- What distance from the waterfall can the Vamp be to move any direction except toward & away from the waterfall.... and what about the next waterfall? What about Geothermal Steam? Clouds? Underground, piped, and otherwise barriered flows can be ignored. AGB. Intermittant flows can be ignored.... supersoakers & lawn sprinkler runoff. /
#6 octavian_5 Apr 29, 2008 19:46:07	My personal take: "Running water" applies to any body of water that moves in a given direction. A vampire can cross if there's some sort of material between them and the water. Hence, a vampire with a plane and copious amounts of fuel can go anywhere. Err...anywhere where it's night.
#7 TheRealOrion Apr 30, 2008 12:56:29	Don't forget that the "running water" stuff is part of a very old folk legend. It's really not meant for the modern world. The various weaknesses of the vampire are basically just ways of escaping them, if you're clever. If you're a Polish peasant in 1376, you will always have garlic around the house, you almost definitely have a cross nearby, and you might be able to get your ass across a stream, if need be. In a Modern game, I'd say we could alter the description to "natural running water, including man-made streams, but not pipes or other mechanical contrivances." Yes, there will be some loopholes, like standing directly on a hydro-electric dam or something, but unless that specific circumstance comes up in your game, just don't worry about it. It's a mystical thing, so thinking in pseudo-scientific technicalities is only going to drive you nuts.