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Vehicle Speeds

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#1
mbelcher
Dec 27, 2009 13:59:39 In Darwin's World, vehicles are listed with two speeds. For example, a motorcycle's top speed is 250(25) and an economy car's is 180(18). Now my question: what do those numbers represent?

Whether that number is feet, 5-foot squares, or miles per round or hour, the numbers don't make sense. Also, why the two different numbers? Is the first number real speed, and the second how you represent it during car chase situations?

I would love someone to explain this to me. I'm running a solo adventure with my husband and he just acquired a car, so this will be coming up in game soon.

(Also, for those who don't know, Darwin's is a post-apocalyptic D20 system. It's like a combination of D20 Modern, D20 Future, D20 Apocolypse (according to my husband...I've only played modern out of those three).

So I guess my question might also apply to D20 Modern. Darwin's runs on the same rules as that for the most part. Not sure if the vehicle speeds are the same though.)
#2
sbelcher
Dec 27, 2009 14:48:03 yeah the numbers stand for feet per round. so in one round the motorcycle can move 250 ft. on a 10ft square grid, which is standard for vehicle combats, it moves 25 squares. where a human, unencumbered, can move 3. or if u desire u can stay with the 5 ft. square grid and double it, but then if u have a battle map it tends to take up alot of squares.

love u
#3
mbelcher
Dec 27, 2009 14:50:27 Why when I asked you this last time we played, did you say you didn't know?? Way to make me look like a doofus.
#4
narukagami
Dec 27, 2009 22:51:44 Why would it use 10ft squares instead of the chase scale 50ft standard? Seems like you'd run out of map space pretty quick in a high speed chase scene.
#5
sbelcher
Dec 28, 2009 3:03:48
it uses 10ft. for two reasons.
1) alot of the vehicle chases/ battles there are people on foot, and the average speed is 30ft, for a human, so doing 10ft. squares still allows the player on foot to move. even if it is 3 squares.
2) in darwin's world, there are no real streets. but instead peer post-apocalyptic scraps everywhere, making it hard to reach a high speed safely.

the average travel is a max of 25 mile an hour.or about 200 miles a day. if you are lucky.
#6
nobodez_here
Dec 28, 2009 20:50:24 Actually, it's 5 ft. squares and 50 ft. squares. That's the d20 Modern standard, and there's no reason they would have changed that for Darwin's World. For instance, in the d20 Modern Core Rulebook, the Ducatti 998R has a listed speed of 370 (37). That means it has a max speed of about 210 MPH when converted, which sounds about right for a Ducatti (well, a little slow really).

A motorcycle that only does 250 feet per round tops out at about 28 MPH, much slower than you'd expect.
#7
mbelcher
Dec 28, 2009 21:16:25
Actually, it's 5 ft. squares and 50 ft. squares. That's the d20 Modern standard, and there's no reason they would have changed that for Darwin's World. For instance, in the d20 Modern Core Rulebook, the Ducatti 998R has a listed speed of 370 (37). That means it has a max speed of about 210 MPH when converted, which sounds about right for a Ducatti (well, a little slow really).

A motorcycle that only does 250 feet per round tops out at about 28 MPH, much slower than you'd expect.

Well, actually there is reason that could have changed for Darwin's. They're made by different companies. Darwin's has many of the same rules as D20 modern, but not all the same. So using a 10 foot square per round, it actually makes sense. That would have it going 150mph.

Like sbelcher said, Darwin's vehicle combat often incorporates people on foot as well, so 10' squares are necessary to incorporate that. Also vehicles pretty much never reach that top speed, as the roads are mostly rubble from "The Fall" and thousands of years of not being repaired. So you can do smaller squares practically.
#8
xvgreymanvx
Dec 30, 2009 11:43:42
Why when I asked you this last time we played, did you say you didn't know?? Way to make me look like a doofus.

::can't help a chuckle:: That sounds like something my wife would do to me.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 mbelcher Dec 27, 2009 13:59:39	In Darwin's World, vehicles are listed with two speeds. For example, a motorcycle's top speed is 250(25) and an economy car's is 180(18). Now my question: what do those numbers represent? Whether that number is feet, 5-foot squares, or miles per round or hour, the numbers don't make sense. Also, why the two different numbers? Is the first number real speed, and the second how you represent it during car chase situations? I would love someone to explain this to me. I'm running a solo adventure with my husband and he just acquired a car, so this will be coming up in game soon. (Also, for those who don't know, Darwin's is a post-apocalyptic D20 system. It's like a combination of D20 Modern, D20 Future, D20 Apocolypse (according to my husband...I've only played modern out of those three). So I guess my question might also apply to D20 Modern. Darwin's runs on the same rules as that for the most part. Not sure if the vehicle speeds are the same though.)
#2 sbelcher Dec 27, 2009 14:48:03	yeah the numbers stand for feet per round. so in one round the motorcycle can move 250 ft. on a 10ft square grid, which is standard for vehicle combats, it moves 25 squares. where a human, unencumbered, can move 3. or if u desire u can stay with the 5 ft. square grid and double it, but then if u have a battle map it tends to take up alot of squares. love u
#3 mbelcher Dec 27, 2009 14:50:27	Why when I asked you this last time we played, did you say you didn't know?? Way to make me look like a doofus.
#4 narukagami Dec 27, 2009 22:51:44	Why would it use 10ft squares instead of the chase scale 50ft standard? Seems like you'd run out of map space pretty quick in a high speed chase scene.
#5 sbelcher Dec 28, 2009 3:03:48	it uses 10ft. for two reasons. 1) alot of the vehicle chases/ battles there are people on foot, and the average speed is 30ft, for a human, so doing 10ft. squares still allows the player on foot to move. even if it is 3 squares. 2) in darwin's world, there are no real streets. but instead peer post-apocalyptic scraps everywhere, making it hard to reach a high speed safely. the average travel is a max of 25 mile an hour.or about 200 miles a day. if you are lucky.
#6 nobodez_here Dec 28, 2009 20:50:24	Actually, it's 5 ft. squares and 50 ft. squares. That's the d20 Modern standard, and there's no reason they would have changed that for Darwin's World. For instance, in the d20 Modern Core Rulebook, the Ducatti 998R has a listed speed of 370 (37). That means it has a max speed of about 210 MPH when converted, which sounds about right for a Ducatti (well, a little slow really). A motorcycle that only does 250 feet per round tops out at about 28 MPH, much slower than you'd expect.
#7 mbelcher Dec 28, 2009 21:16:25	Actually, it's 5 ft. squares and 50 ft. squares. That's the d20 Modern standard, and there's no reason they would have changed that for Darwin's World. For instance, in the d20 Modern Core Rulebook, the Ducatti 998R has a listed speed of 370 (37). That means it has a max speed of about 210 MPH when converted, which sounds about right for a Ducatti (well, a little slow really). A motorcycle that only does 250 feet per round tops out at about 28 MPH, much slower than you'd expect. Well, actually there is reason that could have changed for Darwin's. They're made by different companies. Darwin's has many of the same rules as D20 modern, but not all the same. So using a 10 foot square per round, it actually makes sense. That would have it going 150mph. Like sbelcher said, Darwin's vehicle combat often incorporates people on foot as well, so 10' squares are necessary to incorporate that. Also vehicles pretty much never reach that top speed, as the roads are mostly rubble from "The Fall" and thousands of years of not being repaired. So you can do smaller squares practically.
#8 xvgreymanvx Dec 30, 2009 11:43:42	Why when I asked you this last time we played, did you say you didn't know?? Way to make me look like a doofus. ::can't help a chuckle:: That sounds like something my wife would do to me.