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3 Arrested in Orlando for âIllegallyâ Feeding the Homeless

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#1
calronmoonflower
Jun 03, 2011 19:23:19 Article with Video

What?
#2
bone_naga
Jun 03, 2011 19:30:52 I'm just curious as to whether or not the permits require a fee. If they're free and relatively easy to obtain (I'm not as familiar with Florida but I know that is sometimes not the case), then this group was just being intentionally difficult. If, on the other hand (and given what we've already seen from Florida this wouldn't particularly surprise me), the state expected people to have to pay money in order to help people or ask permission a month in advance, well that's pretty ****ed up.
#3
Jharii
Jun 03, 2011 19:41:22 The police waited until all the homeless were fed, so they saw the good in it. They were just doing their jobs beyond that.

As for the rest, I agree with bone_naga. It seems like a bit of a publicity stunt, particularly since they are recognized as a "controvertial group." There's more to the story. "They rejected the permits" tells me that they were looking for a bit of trouble or controversy. Not to mention that they could have hosted this event somewhere close to the park, and I am certain someone would have volunteered their space for this good cause.

The bottom line for me is that it was great that the homeless were fed. Kudos to them and the group for doing it. Everything else is a non-story.
#4
capitan_estaban
Jun 03, 2011 20:17:37 As a rule, it is generally a bad idea to make it necessary to obtain a piece of paper for the government to permit you to do something (other than possibly declare war, vote, ).
#5
bone_naga
Jun 03, 2011 20:53:08
As a rule, it is generally a bad idea to make it necessary to obtain a piece of paper for the government to permit you to do something (other than possibly declare war, vote, ).

Like I said, depends on the manner of the permit (time and money requirements). Sometimes a permit is almost a non-issue, it's used more just as a "hey we're the government and we'd kind of like to know what's going on, particularly when large numbers of people are gathering in one area".
#6
Jharii
Jun 03, 2011 20:57:23 Not to mention that it was a public area, which the government is ultimately responsible for.

*shrug* Whether a permit should be or should not be a requirement has nothing to do with this story anyhow. It was a requirement and they chose not to respect it.
#7
Robin_Hoodlum
Jun 03, 2011 21:05:25 No good deed goes unpunished.
#8
toastedamphibian
Jun 03, 2011 21:10:31 Sure they do. Sometimes. Not intentionally stomping on peoples toes while doing said good deed greatly increases the chances of it going unpunished. Wilfully breaking the law for no apparant reason than to be able to say you broke the law while doing a good deed greatly increases the odds of your 'good deed' being punished, but in all honesty, the good deed is not what is being punished, but rather the blatant disregard for the law.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 calronmoonflower Jun 03, 2011 19:23:19	Article with Video What?
#2 bone_naga Jun 03, 2011 19:30:52	I'm just curious as to whether or not the permits require a fee. If they're free and relatively easy to obtain (I'm not as familiar with Florida but I know that is sometimes not the case), then this group was just being intentionally difficult. If, on the other hand (and given what we've already seen from Florida this wouldn't particularly surprise me), the state expected people to have to pay money in order to help people or ask permission a month in advance, well that's pretty ****ed up.
#3 Jharii Jun 03, 2011 19:41:22	The police waited until all the homeless were fed, so they saw the good in it. They were just doing their jobs beyond that. As for the rest, I agree with bone_naga. It seems like a bit of a publicity stunt, particularly since they are recognized as a "controvertial group." There's more to the story. "They rejected the permits" tells me that they were looking for a bit of trouble or controversy. Not to mention that they could have hosted this event somewhere close to the park, and I am certain someone would have volunteered their space for this good cause. The bottom line for me is that it was great that the homeless were fed. Kudos to them and the group for doing it. Everything else is a non-story.
#4 capitan_estaban Jun 03, 2011 20:17:37	As a rule, it is generally a bad idea to make it necessary to obtain a piece of paper for the government to permit you to do something (other than possibly declare war, vote, ).
#5 bone_naga Jun 03, 2011 20:53:08	As a rule, it is generally a bad idea to make it necessary to obtain a piece of paper for the government to permit you to do something (other than possibly declare war, vote, ). Like I said, depends on the manner of the permit (time and money requirements). Sometimes a permit is almost a non-issue, it's used more just as a "hey we're the government and we'd kind of like to know what's going on, particularly when large numbers of people are gathering in one area".
#6 Jharii Jun 03, 2011 20:57:23	Not to mention that it was a public area, which the government is ultimately responsible for. shrug Whether a permit should be or should not be a requirement has nothing to do with this story anyhow. It was a requirement and they chose not to respect it.
#7 Robin_Hoodlum Jun 03, 2011 21:05:25	No good deed goes unpunished.
#8 toastedamphibian Jun 03, 2011 21:10:31	Sure they do. Sometimes. Not intentionally stomping on peoples toes while doing said good deed greatly increases the chances of it going unpunished. Wilfully breaking the law for no apparant reason than to be able to say you broke the law while doing a good deed greatly increases the odds of your 'good deed' being punished, but in all honesty, the good deed is not what is being punished, but rather the blatant disregard for the law.