http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2t58CRmbU
Yeah, that movie was pretty horrible. It did pretty well for a comedy movie though, so that was a pleasant surprise.
I have to admit I enjoyed the movie. I thought the images were beautiful, and liked the highly stylized presentation. My one complaint was they tried to depict the Spartans as Uber Straight, when they were anything but.
So, the fact that Snyder followed Miller's novel, instead of the real battle of Thermopylae is a silly criticism of the film. Secondly, visuals is about all Snyder does well (cinematography/DP) and pretty much sums up the merits of the movie.
That said, this is my favorite trailer parody... even though its just a bunch of guys goofing off with a green screen.
The film is based off Frank Miller's Novel and in no way should be associated with historical accuracy. I don't want to even open the can of worms that is ancient Grecian relationships. Shame on you *wags finger* for even using it as a critique of a film that is not meant to be historically accurate.
So, the fact that Snyder followed Miller's novel, instead of the real battle of Thermopylae is a silly criticism of the film. Secondly, visuals is about all Snyder does well (cinematography/DP) and pretty much sums up the merits of the movie.
That said, this is my favorite trailer parody... even though its just a bunch of guys goofing off with a green screen.
I came off too strong. I should state, I was a 300 defender when people were picking it apart for accuracy. I even felt it was a good depiction of the event from the Greek perspective. This is how ancient history was written, with bias and passion. It was fair treatment of Herodotus as far as I am concerned. I don't have any issue with its depiction of the Persians, or any of that nonsense. It was a solid movie, and I think one of the best in some years. I just, twitch a bit, when they make a point of having the Spartans ridicule the Athenians as 'boy lovers', and gloss over spartan homosexuality entirely. To be fair, there is clearly a gay theme running through the movie (the scene where the industrial music is playing as they cheer the ruined battle fleet for example), so I think spartan homosexuality was tacitly acknowledged anyways.
I came off too strong. I should state, I was a 300 defender when people were picking it apart for accuracy. I even felt it was a good depiction of the event from the Greek perspective.
Not at all. I didn't mean to come off too strong-armed, as well, but such is the way of forums *shrug.* Feel free to imagine me debating in a Jiminy Glick voice. In contrast to what you mentioned, I often found myself reminding friends that the movie was not accurate, a fact that they felt contributed greatly to its quality somehow
you do make a point of how it could well have been written from a Greek perspective, though... I like that idea...It was a solid movie, and I think one of the best in some years.
That's a bit far for me. The visuals, of course, were the strong suit of the film, but the plot felt like a Braveheart reboot. Snyder has been critiqued by crew for a poor job of directing the cast, but again, does great as a director of photography, and to that much I agree. An enjoyable and likeable film, yes, certainly not one of the best... no less in years!
I just, twitch a bit, when they make a point of having the Spartans ridicule the Athenians as 'boy lovers', and gloss over spartan homosexuality entirely. To be fair, there is clearly a gay theme running through the movie (the scene where the industrial music is playing as they cheer the ruined battle fleet for example), so I think spartan homosexuality was tacitly acknowledged anyways.
Well, there are a couple things in regards to this. Firstly, Athenians (as best I know) were, in fact, the 'boy lovers' who practiced mentor-like same sex relationships as young men were coming of age. Secondly, they were the most open about it, so Athens could, in some sense, be compared to modern jokes of San Fransisco. It was poor writing to have an out-of-the-blue line like that, especially with no context and
sexuality didn't really need to be addressed at all. You seem upset that the issue was largely disregarded... but what would it have contributed? It would have required characters in love whose relationship would have added substance to the film or some sort of conflict that added to the overall story. The father-son relationship was probably the best choice for Snyder; trying to throw that in the mix wasn't some sort of disparagement to ancient Greece, but simply had no place in the film.
Well, there are a couple things in regards to this. Firstly, Athenians (as best I know) were, in fact, the 'boy lovers' who practiced mentor-like same sex relationships as young men were coming of age. Secondly, they were the most open about it, so Athens could, in some sense, be compared to modern jokes of San Fransisco. It was poor writing to have an out-of-the-blue line like that, especially with no context and
actually, despite my complaint, I really did like the "boy lovers" line.
sexuality didn't really need to be addressed at all. You seem upset that the issue was largely disregarded... but what would it have contributed? It would have required characters in love whose relationship would have added substance to the film or some sort of conflict that added to the overall story. The father-son relationship was probably the best choice for Snyder; trying to throw that in the mix wasn't some sort of disparagement to ancient Greece, but simply had no place in the film.
I think upset is too strong to describe my feeling on this. It isn't so much that they disregarded sexuality. But that really the Spartans were deeper into homosexuality than the Athenians, but the reverse was presented. For example, spartan men were seperated from the women at an early age, and homosexual relationships were the norm in the military. In fact, many spartans had great difficulty when they eventually were forced to live with a woman, because they were more accustomed to being with men.