I am so sick of 3.0, 3.x, 4e, Pathfinder, 5e...
I am sick of hearing all the Avengers, whiners, apologists, and nerds complain, rant, whine, and moan over a GAME!
I don't even play D&D anymore, ANY EDITION! Do you know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL SUCK! AND ALL THE RABBLE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT TURNED ME OFF!
Grow up!
Get a life!
Get over it!
SHEESH!!
/rant
Wait, this isn't the WoW forums...
I'm confused.
But there is curiosity on my part.
who sticks around a forum for a game they don't like? I'm so sick of it! WHY ARE OYU EVEN HERE IF YOU DONT LIKE THE COMPANY?!?! /rant
*sigh*
How many times do I have to answer this question?
It really isn't hard for a reasonable, intelligent person to figure out.
I'll give you a few more hours to think about it...
Also, nowhere in the Terms of Service does it state that I have to play, or even like, D&D of any edition.
Why does it bother you so much that I don't like or play D&D?
I don't; I had no one to play with for years. I've found board games to be easier to get people for.
But there is curiosity on my part.
Curiosity?
Yeah, I can see that. I/ we simply aren't interested in RPG's anymore. Simply "grew" outta them and got burned out on them I suppose... they just aren't "fun" anymore really...
And we play a lot of board games now as well. Mostly war games... Memoir '44 is a current favorite of ours.
who sticks around a forum for a game they don't like? I'm so sick of it! WHY ARE OYU EVEN HERE IF YOU DONT LIKE THE COMPANY?!?! /rant
*sigh*
How many times do I have to answer this question?
It really isn't hard for a reasonable, intelligent person to figure out.
I'll give you a few more hours to think about it...
Also, nowhere in the Terms of Service does it state that I have to play, or even like, D&D of any edition.
Why does it bother you so much that I don't like or play D&D?
It doesn't..just seems kindia funny that your ranting about the fact that folks are dicussing a game on a game Company's forums and I can get you to respond jsut by asking "why are you here?"
Curiosity?
Yeah, I can see that. I/ we simply aren't interested in RPG's anymore. Simply "grew" outta them and got burned out on them I suppose... they just aren't "fun" anymore really...
And we play a lot of board games now as well. Mostly war games... Memoir '44 is a current favorite of ours.
Naah, I wouldn't say I "grew out" of RPGs; I haven't played that many games really. I just have no one to play with and I have a hard time gathering people (those who actually are interested in D&D back out as soon as I mention it's 4e... and most of them base their judgments on hearsay).
A board game I can pack up and play between classes; it's mostly small things, like Angel of Death, a Dungeoneer expansion or a dice version of Catan (which sucks).
I've played every edition of D&D since Basic, and I'll probably play 5th when it comes out. Like I posted in one of the other threads, I'm not an edition snob - I'll play whatever's being played, and I've never really given enough of a
about which rules system is being used to get at all bothered by it. I play D&D. Period. End sentence. Full stop.If this entire site wasn't foaming at the mouth over the subject, I'd almost be laughing about all the idiots pissing themselves over which edition is best and how "their" game is getting/was slaughtered because X edition changed one freaking word in some obscure rule or took a different approach to the game. As it is, in order to not get perma-banned I'm actively restraining myself from indulging my strong urge to take an obscene amount of pleasure in poking the idiots on all sides of the issue with a stick for no other reason than my own perverse amusement and the inherent entertainment value of watching their heads explode.
At the moment, though, I can barely even be bothered to roll my eyes at the whole thing - and hell, this being an internet forum rolling my eyes is just a matter of typing four characters, lol...
I've played every edition of D&D since Basic, and I'll probably play 5th when it comes out. Like I posted in one of the other threads, I'm not an edition snob - I'll play whatever's being played, and I've never really given enough of a
If this entire site wasn't foaming at the mouth over the subject, I'd almost be laughing about all the idiots pissing themselves over which edition is best and how "their" game is getting/was slaughtered because X edition changed one freaking word in some obscure rule or took a different approach to the game. As it is, in order to not get perma-banned I'm actively restraining myself from indulging my strong urge to take an obscene amount of pleasure in poking the idiots on all sides of the issue with a stick for no other reason than my own perverse amusement and the inherent entertainment value of watching their heads explode.
At the moment, though, I can barely even be bothered to roll my eyes at the whole thing - and hell, this being an internet forum rolling my eyes is just a matter of typing four characters, lol...
You play games to enjoy playing games, regardless of system. Clearly, you're doing it wrong. Now, I want you to come back in here on fire with some hateful things to say about some edition you read on the internet was the sux0rz.
Now I'll probably get the players handbook. I have them all from 3e up. Not sure if I'll play it. Will probably read the books some, fantasize about making a game breaking character and then put the books away.
I remember when i first came to these boards. I was all over the gaming sections. Couldn't keep my hands off of em. Now I'm only found in the good parts. Um... I mean the OTT.
I like 3e. I like 4e. I hate both of them as well. I've only heard that 5e is being created and that's it. I hope it is like skyrim. (...)
"DAMAGE: If you ever get shot with an arrow in the knee, you cease to be an adventurer, period."
Had to be done
I enjoyed 3.x, tough I've seen it's flaws. I really liked 4e for it's different approach, tough still I accepted it's flaws (like slow combat or more restrictive classes). What I didn't like was when two years after publishing they started making 4e into a 4e/3.x hybrid and still wanted everything to work smoothly.
I personally hope 5e will be entirely different from what has been, but I'll probably won't be playing it. Those 4e books I have are only gathering dust; the tiles have never been used in a game. As I mentioned earlier, no one wants to play D&D here, and if they do, it's 3.x.
If this entire site wasn't foaming at the mouth over the subject, I'd almost be laughing about all the idiots pissing themselves over which edition is best and how "their" game is getting/was slaughtered because X edition changed one freaking word in some obscure rule or took a different approach to the game.
I don't really care. I like 3.X. I only played 4e once, but was willing to try more. I just wish they'd decide what worlds were going to get support and what wasn't, and then keep it that way. That's actually one of the biggest problems I had with 2e. You had Greyhawk, FR, Krynn, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and Spelljammer (did I miss any?) and it was difficult to support all of them.
I will check out 5e but more than likely I will stick with 3.x and Savage Worlds.
You had Greyhawk, FR, Krynn, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and Spelljammer (did I miss any?) and it was difficult to support all of them.
You left out Birthright!?
Fight!
Dont forget Birthright, Mystara, and Oriental Adventures.
You had Greyhawk, FR, Krynn, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and Spelljammer (did I miss any?) and it was difficult to support all of them.
You left out Birthright!?
I've never heard of Birthright, so it obviously wasn't all that important.
Mystara I vaguely recall hearing passing mention of, and I always thought the OE was more of a "subset" of one of the other worlds. I see that my point has been made, though. There's too damn many of them.
In 5e, I'd really only like to see Eberron, FR, Krynn, Planescape, and Greyhawk (aka the "basic" world). Ravenloft can get folded into something else (or even into the Plane of Shadow, so it's accessible from all the worlds, OE can become a subset of all of them, Dark Sun can just die already (never liked it!
), Spelljammer can use them all...I like 3e. I like 4e. I hate both of them as well. I've only heard that 5e is being created and that's it. I hope it is like skyrim. (...)
"DAMAGE: If you ever get shot with an arrow in the knee, you cease to be an adventurer, period."
Had to be done
TPKS [ Total Party Knee Shot ] The only way to end a campaign without killing the whole group of adventures.
I enjoyed 3.x, tough I've seen it's flaws. I really liked 4e for it's different approach, tough still I accepted it's flaws (like slow combat or more restrictive classes). What I didn't like was when two years after publishing they started making 4e into a 4e/3.x hybrid and still wanted everything to work smoothly.
I personally hope 5e will be entirely different from what has been, but I'll probably won't be playing it. Those 4e books I have are only gathering dust; the tiles have never been used in a game. As I mentioned earlier, no one wants to play D&D here, and if they do, it's 3.x.
Watch, 5e is going to almost nothing like 3e or 4e but 2 years down the line they'll make it into a 3e/4e hyrbrid. About a year later they'll announce that they are working on 6e.
As it is, in order to not get perma-banned I'm actively restraining myself from indulging my strong urge to take an obscene amount of pleasure in poking the idiots on all sides of the issue with a stick for no other reason than my own perverse amusement and the inherent entertainment value of watching their heads explode.
Sing it, brother.
I've allowed myself to dust off the old guns and fire a few rounds for fun just once so far. The ORCs are so busy they're just deleting stuff and not even posting warnings to play nice, so it's easy to really blast those who deserve it.
The ORCs'll get a handle on it soon enough though.
As to the OP: yup, edition war stupidity is stupid. I'd rather hear more about the board games some of you play. Sounds a whole heck of a lot more interesting and fun.
There are people I consider friends here TS; and even if you are not one of them, you and the Thread Reporter™are not going to drive me out.
The name is always capitalized.
...words...
I'm pretty sure your average OTTer is far more tired of inter-forum strife than they are of D&D Game Edition strife. Can we at least go back to talking about the later please, as that's the subject of the thread?
EDIT: Frank's post (below) is "pointing" to a post by another user that has since been deleted. He's not pointing at this/my post.
TPKS [ Total Party Knee Shot ] The only way to end a campaign without killing the whole group of adventures.
As to the OP: yup, edition war stupidity is stupid. I'd rather hear more about the board games some of you play. Sounds a whole heck of a lot more interesting and fun.
As I said, I mostly play things I can comfortably carry around in a backpack (when I'm not hauling paints or other heavy stuff): Fantasy Flight's Death Angel (we've even managed to win once), a Dungeoneer supplement (two combined into one: Haunted Woods of Malthorin and Den of the Wererats; the Wererats are more interesting IMO) and The Settlers of Catan: Dice Game (hardly fun; zero interaction between players). We've also had an MtG phase and two of us have Pokemon decks. One of the guys is also keeping Warhammer: Invasion we bought as a group.
I also have a Polish game called Na Sygnale but we've yet to try it out. Maybe after this semester ends.
ADH... are you at all interesterd in wargames?
There are a number of good ones with Poland as the subject.
Well, a part of history has rolled over these lands...
If you mean miniature wargames, right now I can't afford them time and financial-wise. Maybe next semsester, between working on my degree.
And if ya'all think people are fightin' now, just wait 'til WotC gives us something to actually fight about. Ya ain't seen nothin' yet, homies. When it happens it'll be pretty epic.
As I said, I mostly play things I can comfortably carry around in a backpack (when I'm not hauling paints or other heavy stuff): Fantasy Flight's Death Angel (we've even managed to win once), a Dungeoneer supplement (two combined into one: Haunted Woods of Malthorin and Den of the Wererats; the Wererats are more interesting IMO) and The Settlers of Catan: Dice Game (hardly fun; zero interaction between players). We've also had an MtG phase and two of us have Pokemon decks. One of the guys is also keeping Warhammer: Invasion we bought as a group.
I also have a Polish game called Na Sygnale but we've yet to try it out. Maybe after this semester ends.
Other than MtG, I've not played any of those games, but they sound fun.
Do any of the games you listed lend themselves particularly well to one on one play? That is, with just two players?
Other than MtG, I've not played any of those games, but they sound fun.
Do any of the games you listed lend themselves particularly well to one on one play? That is, with just two players?
Invasion is designed to be one on one; Dungeoneer plays pretty well, but it's better with more players. Death Angel is a cooperative game and can be played even in solitude: any number of players less than 4 just means everyone controls more than one squad.
I mean be more friendly to people that are illiterate... I mean.. look at the pretty pictures!
Invasion is designed to be one on one; Dungeoneer plays pretty well, but it's better with more players. Death Angel is a cooperative game and can be played even in solitude: any number of players less than 4 just means everyone controls more than one squad.
Cool. Thank you.
So I look forward to the 5e buildup, too.
You play games to enjoy playing games, regardless of system. Clearly, you're doing it wrong. Now, I want you to come back in here on fire with some hateful things to say about some edition you read on the internet was the sux0rz.
Hell, if I got started on what was wrong with the Swimsuit Edition or the Christmas Edition they'd be stuffing me in a bag and shooting me up with Haldol...
Wait, this isn't the WoW forums...
I'm confused.
But there is curiosity on my part.
who sticks around a forum for a game they don't like? I'm so sick of it! WHY ARE OYU EVEN HERE IF YOU DONT LIKE THE COMPANY?!?! /rant
*sigh*
How many times do I have to answer this question?
It really isn't hard for a reasonable, intelligent person to figure out.
I'll give you a few more hours to think about it...
Also, nowhere in the Terms of Service does it state that I have to play, or even like, D&D of any edition.
Why does it bother you so much that I don't like or play D&D?
I don't; I had no one to play with for years. I've found board games to be easier to get people for.
But there is curiosity on my part.
Curiosity?
Yeah, I can see that. I/ we simply aren't interested in RPG's anymore. Simply "grew" outta them and got burned out on them I suppose... they just aren't "fun" anymore really...
And we play a lot of board games now as well. Mostly war games... Memoir '44 is a current favorite of ours.
who sticks around a forum for a game they don't like? I'm so sick of it! WHY ARE OYU EVEN HERE IF YOU DONT LIKE THE COMPANY?!?! /rant
*sigh*
How many times do I have to answer this question?
It really isn't hard for a reasonable, intelligent person to figure out.
I'll give you a few more hours to think about it...
Also, nowhere in the Terms of Service does it state that I have to play, or even like, D&D of any edition.
Why does it bother you so much that I don't like or play D&D?
It doesn't..just seems kindia funny that your ranting about the fact that folks are dicussing a game on a game Company's forums and I can get you to respond jsut by asking "why are you here?"
Curiosity?
Yeah, I can see that. I/ we simply aren't interested in RPG's anymore. Simply "grew" outta them and got burned out on them I suppose... they just aren't "fun" anymore really...
And we play a lot of board games now as well. Mostly war games... Memoir '44 is a current favorite of ours.
Naah, I wouldn't say I "grew out" of RPGs; I haven't played that many games really. I just have no one to play with and I have a hard time gathering people (those who actually are interested in D&D back out as soon as I mention it's 4e... and most of them base their judgments on hearsay).
A board game I can pack up and play between classes; it's mostly small things, like Angel of Death, a Dungeoneer expansion or a dice version of Catan (which sucks).
I've played every edition of D&D since Basic, and I'll probably play 5th when it comes out. Like I posted in one of the other threads, I'm not an edition snob - I'll play whatever's being played, and I've never really given enough of a
about which rules system is being used to get at all bothered by it. I play D&D. Period. End sentence. Full stop.If this entire site wasn't foaming at the mouth over the subject, I'd almost be laughing about all the idiots pissing themselves over which edition is best and how "their" game is getting/was slaughtered because X edition changed one freaking word in some obscure rule or took a different approach to the game. As it is, in order to not get perma-banned I'm actively restraining myself from indulging my strong urge to take an obscene amount of pleasure in poking the idiots on all sides of the issue with a stick for no other reason than my own perverse amusement and the inherent entertainment value of watching their heads explode.
At the moment, though, I can barely even be bothered to roll my eyes at the whole thing - and hell, this being an internet forum rolling my eyes is just a matter of typing four characters, lol...
I've played every edition of D&D since Basic, and I'll probably play 5th when it comes out. Like I posted in one of the other threads, I'm not an edition snob - I'll play whatever's being played, and I've never really given enough of a
If this entire site wasn't foaming at the mouth over the subject, I'd almost be laughing about all the idiots pissing themselves over which edition is best and how "their" game is getting/was slaughtered because X edition changed one freaking word in some obscure rule or took a different approach to the game. As it is, in order to not get perma-banned I'm actively restraining myself from indulging my strong urge to take an obscene amount of pleasure in poking the idiots on all sides of the issue with a stick for no other reason than my own perverse amusement and the inherent entertainment value of watching their heads explode.
At the moment, though, I can barely even be bothered to roll my eyes at the whole thing - and hell, this being an internet forum rolling my eyes is just a matter of typing four characters, lol...
You play games to enjoy playing games, regardless of system. Clearly, you're doing it wrong. Now, I want you to come back in here on fire with some hateful things to say about some edition you read on the internet was the sux0rz.
Now I'll probably get the players handbook. I have them all from 3e up. Not sure if I'll play it. Will probably read the books some, fantasize about making a game breaking character and then put the books away.
I remember when i first came to these boards. I was all over the gaming sections. Couldn't keep my hands off of em. Now I'm only found in the good parts. Um... I mean the OTT.
I like 3e. I like 4e. I hate both of them as well. I've only heard that 5e is being created and that's it. I hope it is like skyrim. (...)
"DAMAGE: If you ever get shot with an arrow in the knee, you cease to be an adventurer, period."
Had to be done
I enjoyed 3.x, tough I've seen it's flaws. I really liked 4e for it's different approach, tough still I accepted it's flaws (like slow combat or more restrictive classes). What I didn't like was when two years after publishing they started making 4e into a 4e/3.x hybrid and still wanted everything to work smoothly.
I personally hope 5e will be entirely different from what has been, but I'll probably won't be playing it. Those 4e books I have are only gathering dust; the tiles have never been used in a game. As I mentioned earlier, no one wants to play D&D here, and if they do, it's 3.x.
If this entire site wasn't foaming at the mouth over the subject, I'd almost be laughing about all the idiots pissing themselves over which edition is best and how "their" game is getting/was slaughtered because X edition changed one freaking word in some obscure rule or took a different approach to the game.
I don't really care. I like 3.X. I only played 4e once, but was willing to try more. I just wish they'd decide what worlds were going to get support and what wasn't, and then keep it that way. That's actually one of the biggest problems I had with 2e. You had Greyhawk, FR, Krynn, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and Spelljammer (did I miss any?) and it was difficult to support all of them.
I will check out 5e but more than likely I will stick with 3.x and Savage Worlds.
You had Greyhawk, FR, Krynn, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and Spelljammer (did I miss any?) and it was difficult to support all of them.
You left out Birthright!?
Fight!
Dont forget Birthright, Mystara, and Oriental Adventures.
You had Greyhawk, FR, Krynn, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and Spelljammer (did I miss any?) and it was difficult to support all of them.
You left out Birthright!?
I've never heard of Birthright, so it obviously wasn't all that important.
Mystara I vaguely recall hearing passing mention of, and I always thought the OE was more of a "subset" of one of the other worlds. I see that my point has been made, though. There's too damn many of them.
In 5e, I'd really only like to see Eberron, FR, Krynn, Planescape, and Greyhawk (aka the "basic" world). Ravenloft can get folded into something else (or even into the Plane of Shadow, so it's accessible from all the worlds, OE can become a subset of all of them, Dark Sun can just die already (never liked it!
), Spelljammer can use them all...I like 3e. I like 4e. I hate both of them as well. I've only heard that 5e is being created and that's it. I hope it is like skyrim. (...)
"DAMAGE: If you ever get shot with an arrow in the knee, you cease to be an adventurer, period."
Had to be done
TPKS [ Total Party Knee Shot ] The only way to end a campaign without killing the whole group of adventures.
I enjoyed 3.x, tough I've seen it's flaws. I really liked 4e for it's different approach, tough still I accepted it's flaws (like slow combat or more restrictive classes). What I didn't like was when two years after publishing they started making 4e into a 4e/3.x hybrid and still wanted everything to work smoothly.
I personally hope 5e will be entirely different from what has been, but I'll probably won't be playing it. Those 4e books I have are only gathering dust; the tiles have never been used in a game. As I mentioned earlier, no one wants to play D&D here, and if they do, it's 3.x.
Watch, 5e is going to almost nothing like 3e or 4e but 2 years down the line they'll make it into a 3e/4e hyrbrid. About a year later they'll announce that they are working on 6e.
As it is, in order to not get perma-banned I'm actively restraining myself from indulging my strong urge to take an obscene amount of pleasure in poking the idiots on all sides of the issue with a stick for no other reason than my own perverse amusement and the inherent entertainment value of watching their heads explode.
Sing it, brother.
I've allowed myself to dust off the old guns and fire a few rounds for fun just once so far. The ORCs are so busy they're just deleting stuff and not even posting warnings to play nice, so it's easy to really blast those who deserve it.
The ORCs'll get a handle on it soon enough though.
As to the OP: yup, edition war stupidity is stupid. I'd rather hear more about the board games some of you play. Sounds a whole heck of a lot more interesting and fun.
There are people I consider friends here TS; and even if you are not one of them, you and the Thread Reporter™
The name is always capitalized.
...words...
I'm pretty sure your average OTTer is far more tired of inter-forum strife than they are of D&D Game Edition strife. Can we at least go back to talking about the later please, as that's the subject of the thread?
EDIT: Frank's post (below) is "pointing" to a post by another user that has since been deleted. He's not pointing at this/my post.
TPKS [ Total Party Knee Shot ] The only way to end a campaign without killing the whole group of adventures.
As to the OP: yup, edition war stupidity is stupid. I'd rather hear more about the board games some of you play. Sounds a whole heck of a lot more interesting and fun.
As I said, I mostly play things I can comfortably carry around in a backpack (when I'm not hauling paints or other heavy stuff): Fantasy Flight's Death Angel (we've even managed to win once), a Dungeoneer supplement (two combined into one: Haunted Woods of Malthorin and Den of the Wererats; the Wererats are more interesting IMO) and The Settlers of Catan: Dice Game (hardly fun; zero interaction between players). We've also had an MtG phase and two of us have Pokemon decks. One of the guys is also keeping Warhammer: Invasion we bought as a group.
I also have a Polish game called Na Sygnale but we've yet to try it out. Maybe after this semester ends.
ADH... are you at all interesterd in wargames?
There are a number of good ones with Poland as the subject.
Well, a part of history has rolled over these lands...
If you mean miniature wargames, right now I can't afford them time and financial-wise. Maybe next semsester, between working on my degree.
And if ya'all think people are fightin' now, just wait 'til WotC gives us something to actually fight about. Ya ain't seen nothin' yet, homies. When it happens it'll be pretty epic.
As I said, I mostly play things I can comfortably carry around in a backpack (when I'm not hauling paints or other heavy stuff): Fantasy Flight's Death Angel (we've even managed to win once), a Dungeoneer supplement (two combined into one: Haunted Woods of Malthorin and Den of the Wererats; the Wererats are more interesting IMO) and The Settlers of Catan: Dice Game (hardly fun; zero interaction between players). We've also had an MtG phase and two of us have Pokemon decks. One of the guys is also keeping Warhammer: Invasion we bought as a group.
I also have a Polish game called Na Sygnale but we've yet to try it out. Maybe after this semester ends.
Other than MtG, I've not played any of those games, but they sound fun.
Do any of the games you listed lend themselves particularly well to one on one play? That is, with just two players?
Other than MtG, I've not played any of those games, but they sound fun.
Do any of the games you listed lend themselves particularly well to one on one play? That is, with just two players?
Invasion is designed to be one on one; Dungeoneer plays pretty well, but it's better with more players. Death Angel is a cooperative game and can be played even in solitude: any number of players less than 4 just means everyone controls more than one squad.
I mean be more friendly to people that are illiterate... I mean.. look at the pretty pictures!
Invasion is designed to be one on one; Dungeoneer plays pretty well, but it's better with more players. Death Angel is a cooperative game and can be played even in solitude: any number of players less than 4 just means everyone controls more than one squad.
Cool. Thank you.
So I look forward to the 5e buildup, too.
You play games to enjoy playing games, regardless of system. Clearly, you're doing it wrong. Now, I want you to come back in here on fire with some hateful things to say about some edition you read on the internet was the sux0rz.
Hell, if I got started on what was wrong with the Swimsuit Edition or the Christmas Edition they'd be stuffing me in a bag and shooting me up with Haldol...