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A darker, more adult game

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
yellowdingo
Jan 05, 2009 0:43:54 Greyhawk, Dark and Nasty

Thoughts on a Darker Game
Should Greyhawk shift toward a darker more adult game?
#2
baneofelves
Jan 05, 2009 1:04:24 YES!! YES!!! YES!! (well maybe not that dark, but it's certainly better than a cartoony world. Eh, it not that bad. It is just a game after all)
#3
The_White_Sorcerer
Jan 05, 2009 2:27:54 Are you sure this is PG-13? Because that is, IIRC, how Wizards like their boards.
#4
knights_disciple
Jan 05, 2009 2:35:06 Well, I know I'd never play in a game like that. To much like Martin for my tastes.
Plus, yeah, this seems a bit much for these boards, dude.
#5
yellowdingo
Jan 05, 2009 3:54:35
Are you sure this is PG-13? Because that is, IIRC, how Wizards like their boards.

Perhaps not entirely PG-13, but still it is devoid of certain things that would make it unacceptable even to me.

The point is though: Is there a future for a Darker, Nastier (that the difference between Evil and Good) Greyhawk? Will Wizards consider the darker game for its M15+ Market without going over into R18+ ?
#6
Bloodsoul
Jan 05, 2009 11:12:42 ...meh, why not?

(wasn't this on the Mature Boards months ago?)
#7
orc_tao
Jan 05, 2009 11:41:54 Sorry. The example given was crossing the PG-13 line. Some of the themes and subject matter being discussed are very sensitive and could cause some people to feel uncomfortable. While discussing the possibility of a darker game style is, of course, acceptable, specific examples of graphic sex or violence are not allowed on this message board.
#8
The_White_Sorcerer
Jan 06, 2009 12:02:37 Now that I think about it... Isn't this thread off-topic here in the off-topic tavern since it would be on-topic on one of the on-topic forums?
#9
the_shaman
Jan 06, 2009 12:36:36
Sorry. The example given was crossing the PG-13 line. Some of the themes and subject matter being discussed are very sensitive and could cause some people to feel uncomfortable. While discussing the possibility of a darker game style is, of course, acceptable, specific examples of graphic sex or violence are not allowed on this message board.

Is there a thread where such issues may be handled, within limits of course?
#10
chimeratechnology
Jan 06, 2009 18:43:03 1) yeah it should be more adult

2)does anyone else miss mature board?
#11
pigknight
Jan 06, 2009 19:15:19 No porn in my D&D, kthxbye
#12
Rustmonster
Jan 06, 2009 20:22:55
2)does anyone else miss mature board?

No, I can say that I personally do not miss the "Porn and ****" forums.
#13
baneofelves
Jan 06, 2009 20:26:46
1) yeah it should be more adult

2)does anyone else miss mature board?

1) agreed. But hasn't greyhawk always been that way? At least, that's how I was always exposed to Greyhawk. the dark, gritty world where all the wierd *bleep* happens.

2) No.
#14
the_shaman
Jan 07, 2009 5:58:19
2)does anyone else miss mature board?

It was useful at times, but "mature" is not the word I would use to characterize some of the posters there.
#15
yellowdingo
Jan 07, 2009 17:14:30
No porn in my D&D, kthxbye

What porn? That was newspaper headings turned into a short story set in greyhawk. Porn would have required I go into certain details that I am loath to even discuss because of my strong stance on Ethics.

It wasnt PG 13 because it was Mature 15+ (trust me it was no where near R Adult Only) The Point is that Greyhawk can be made into a darker setting for an older market rather than backsliding to encourage kiddies into playing it by keeping it a pg 13. Frankly D&D by its simple fact that it encourages Mercenary thinking and corpserobbing slaughter is Mature Rated and should not be encouraged for children anyway. A mature story environment that is equal to the themes of the D&D game is better than selling the D&D equivelent of cigarettes to children.
#16
annoyinglizardvoice
Jan 07, 2009 17:24:00
1) yeah it should be more adult

2)does anyone else miss mature board?

1. I agree to some extent, but I think it should be more background than rules. The former of which is much more important to me anyway and trying to add rules for mature stuff just ends up daft.

2. I would miss it if it had lived up to its name.
#17
pigknight
Jan 07, 2009 17:25:24 I couldn't read it so I don't know what it had in it.

Hey, that's the old fogy anti-videogame/funtime thinking. With your thinking handing a kid a copy of Zelda is like handing them a gun.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 yellowdingo Jan 05, 2009 0:43:54	Greyhawk, Dark and Nasty Thoughts on a Darker Game Should Greyhawk shift toward a darker more adult game?
#2 baneofelves Jan 05, 2009 1:04:24	YES!! YES!!! YES!! (well maybe not that dark, but it's certainly better than a cartoony world. Eh, it not that bad. It is just a game after all)
#3 The_White_Sorcerer Jan 05, 2009 2:27:54	Are you sure this is PG-13? Because that is, IIRC, how Wizards like their boards.
#4 knights_disciple Jan 05, 2009 2:35:06	Well, I know I'd never play in a game like that. To much like Martin for my tastes. Plus, yeah, this seems a bit much for these boards, dude.
#5 yellowdingo Jan 05, 2009 3:54:35	Are you sure this is PG-13? Because that is, IIRC, how Wizards like their boards. Perhaps not entirely PG-13, but still it is devoid of certain things that would make it unacceptable even to me. The point is though: Is there a future for a Darker, Nastier (that the difference between Evil and Good) Greyhawk? Will Wizards consider the darker game for its M15+ Market without going over into R18+ ?
#6 Bloodsoul Jan 05, 2009 11:12:42	...meh, why not? (wasn't this on the Mature Boards months ago?)
#7 orc_tao Jan 05, 2009 11:41:54	Sorry. The example given was crossing the PG-13 line. Some of the themes and subject matter being discussed are very sensitive and could cause some people to feel uncomfortable. While discussing the possibility of a darker game style is, of course, acceptable, specific examples of graphic sex or violence are not allowed on this message board.
#8 The_White_Sorcerer Jan 06, 2009 12:02:37	Now that I think about it... Isn't this thread off-topic here in the off-topic tavern since it would be on-topic on one of the on-topic forums?
#9 the_shaman Jan 06, 2009 12:36:36	Sorry. The example given was crossing the PG-13 line. Some of the themes and subject matter being discussed are very sensitive and could cause some people to feel uncomfortable. While discussing the possibility of a darker game style is, of course, acceptable, specific examples of graphic sex or violence are not allowed on this message board. Is there a thread where such issues may be handled, within limits of course?
#10 chimeratechnology Jan 06, 2009 18:43:03	1) yeah it should be more adult 2)does anyone else miss mature board?
#11 pigknight Jan 06, 2009 19:15:19	No porn in my D&D, kthxbye
#12 Rustmonster Jan 06, 2009 20:22:55	2)does anyone else miss mature board? No, I can say that I personally do not miss the "Porn and ****" forums.
#13 baneofelves Jan 06, 2009 20:26:46	1) yeah it should be more adult 2)does anyone else miss mature board? 1) agreed. But hasn't greyhawk always been that way? At least, that's how I was always exposed to Greyhawk. the dark, gritty world where all the wierd bleep happens. 2) No.
#14 the_shaman Jan 07, 2009 5:58:19	2)does anyone else miss mature board? It was useful at times, but "mature" is not the word I would use to characterize some of the posters there.
#15 yellowdingo Jan 07, 2009 17:14:30	No porn in my D&D, kthxbye What porn? That was newspaper headings turned into a short story set in greyhawk. Porn would have required I go into certain details that I am loath to even discuss because of my strong stance on Ethics. It wasnt PG 13 because it was Mature 15+ (trust me it was no where near R Adult Only) The Point is that Greyhawk can be made into a darker setting for an older market rather than backsliding to encourage kiddies into playing it by keeping it a pg 13. Frankly D&D by its simple fact that it encourages Mercenary thinking and corpserobbing slaughter is Mature Rated and should not be encouraged for children anyway. A mature story environment that is equal to the themes of the D&D game is better than selling the D&D equivelent of cigarettes to children.
#16 annoyinglizardvoice Jan 07, 2009 17:24:00	1) yeah it should be more adult 2)does anyone else miss mature board? 1. I agree to some extent, but I think it should be more background than rules. The former of which is much more important to me anyway and trying to add rules for mature stuff just ends up daft. 2. I would miss it if it had lived up to its name.
#17 pigknight Jan 07, 2009 17:25:24	I couldn't read it so I don't know what it had in it. Hey, that's the old fogy anti-videogame/funtime thinking. With your thinking handing a kid a copy of Zelda is like handing them a gun.