Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 malcairad Sep 28, 2012 12:20:49	Here is a puzzle code i created and was wondering if anyoe could solve it 1 24 16 11 25 __ 2 22 14 19 __ 3 22 6 14 19 1 6 25 __ 4 19 13 __ 2 18 3 26 21 3 6 8 13 10 25 12 17 __ 6 26 18 23 __ 6 1 26 21 2 __ 9 24 18 __ 5 25 13 18 11 9 4 5 24 4, __ 4 24 16 21 ___ 7 23 8 26 6 5 17 ___ 6 26 11 __ 3 23 15 20 2 10 25 12 7 26 __ 11 26 20 1 21 13 18 __ 19 26 11 7 26 __ 20 22 17 20 5 18 23 4 21 6 22 21 7. The lines are spaces between words.
#2 SatanicWarmaster Sep 28, 2012 14:00:40	Who is anyoe?
#3 malcairad Sep 28, 2012 14:25:38	Who is anyoe? anyoNE sorry forgot the other N lol!
#4 Robin_Hoodlum Sep 28, 2012 15:13:23	Masking is against the CoC. Please remove your post malcairad
#5 The_Silversword Sep 28, 2012 17:27:37	Masking is against the CoC. Please remove your post malcairad Only the masking of obscene language, did you actually take the time to figure out this guy's 'code' and determine that its obscene?  And besides, if "masking" is such a bad thing, why do 'they' give us this little guy ?   it, thats what i say.
#6 Robin_Hoodlum Sep 28, 2012 17:31:05	Masking is against the CoC. Please remove your post malcairad Only the masking of obscene language, did you actually take the time to figure out this guy's 'code' and determine that its obscene?  Nope. Not interested. And I guess your sarcasm meter is broken.
#7 The_Silversword Sep 28, 2012 17:31:28	This puzzle is ridiculus. It is build on the premise that 0.9999 = 1 and we all know that is false.  I deal with alot of measurements at work, so if something i was working on was supposed to have a one inch bend in it, and it came out to .999 inches instead, I would call that close enough, just the way I roll.  And any way, really i think the numbers are supposed to correspond to letters, although im finding that 1 does not = a and so on, I might take another crack at it later on, if im bored or whatever.
#8 The_Silversword Sep 28, 2012 17:34:41	Masking is against the CoC. Please remove your post malcairad Only the masking of obscene language, did you actually take the time to figure out this guy's 'code' and determine that its obscene?  Nope. Not interested. And I guess your sarcasm meter is broken. Yes, Im having one of those days, my sarcasm meter is definitely busted.  I was just worried that you might be spending too much time with trappedslidder and turning into a forum rules Nazi, haha.
#9 Robin_Hoodlum Sep 29, 2012 11:28:07	Yes, Im having one of those days, my sarcasm meter is definitely busted. Welcome to my world. I was just worried that you might be spending too much time with trappedslidder and turning into a forum rules Nazi, haha.  Nope. Not me. But I do like to make fun of the CoC.
#10 malcairad Oct 02, 2012 13:39:54	Masking is against the CoC. Please remove your post malcairad what's masking?
#11 homicidal_squirrel Oct 02, 2012 13:46:54	Masking is against the CoC. Please remove your post malcairad what's masking? It's what you did.
#12 zombie_babies Oct 02, 2012 15:42:36	Can't really explain it, I'd have to show you.  Not gonna do that cuz our fairly rigid CoC doesn't permit it and I'd rather not stir the pot.
#13 pigknight Oct 02, 2012 16:05:47	What's the key?
#14 malcairad Oct 04, 2012 19:31:32	What's the key? there is no key so to speak, its a challenge to figure it out
#15 pigknight Oct 04, 2012 20:25:14	You need a key to solve a code.
#16 malcairad Oct 05, 2012 15:35:20	there is no key, its a riddle, a puzzle, you have to figure it out
#17 zombie_babies Oct 05, 2012 16:12:28	Well give us the key and we'll give it a shot.  Sheesh.
#18 pigknight Oct 05, 2012 17:11:58	Looks like a code, which means it needs a key to solve otherwise it's unsolvable.
#19 Klirshon Oct 05, 2012 17:56:46	It is solvable without a key; I imagine it would be quite annoying (and not entertaining) for many humans to attempt to solve this without a key.
#20 pigknight Oct 05, 2012 19:58:11	That's assuming it is a bad code.
#21 Klirshon Oct 05, 2012 20:05:05	The only assumption made is that this numbers to letters puzzle is coherent once completed.
#22 RagingGoblinGrenade Oct 05, 2012 20:47:27	EDIT: What is the sentence about? Like can you put some kind of context to it?
#23 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 05, 2012 22:12:01	The Key... www.youtube.com/watch?v=WISFFhU9hVc
#24 malcairad Oct 06, 2012 7:42:08	i created this for my D&D group it was an encoded message, no key, that the players had to solve, its not hard, at least i didnt think it was but it does takea bit of thinking to get started but once you realize the simplicity of the code it all falls into place rather nicely
#25 malcairad Oct 06, 2012 7:43:09	Here is a puzzle code i created and was wondering if anyoe could solve it 1 24 16 11 25 __ 2 22 14 19 __ 3 22 6 14 19 1 6 25 __ 4 19 13 __ 2 18 3 26 21 3 6 8 13 10 25 12 17 __ 6 26 18 23 __ 6 1 26 21 2 __ 9 24 18 __ 5 25 13 18 11 9 4 5 24 4, __ 4 24 16 21 ___ 7 23 8 26 6 5 17 ___ 6 26 11 __ 3 23 15 20 2 10 25 12 7 26 __ 11 26 20 1 21 13 18 __ 19 26 11 7 26 __ 20 22 17 20 5 18 23 4 21 6 22 21 7. The lines are spaces between words.  There is no number that goes above 26, but numbers do not match the letter they are supposed to be. So I guess you have to find the "new" number 1 letter and start from there.  Too much work.   if it didnt require work where would the fun/challenge be?
#26 malcairad Oct 06, 2012 7:46:06	It is solvable without a key; I imagine it would be quite annoying (and not entertaining) for many humans to attempt to solve this without a key. annoying and not entertaining? then you dont know many puzzle solvers do you?
#27 Klirshon Oct 06, 2012 8:23:56	I did not state all humans would find it annoying and not entertaining.
#28 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 06, 2012 10:14:28	*YAWN* *rubs eyes* What? This thread still active!? Sheesh! *goes back to bed*
#29 EscherEnigma Oct 06, 2012 13:49:18	Looks like a code, which means it needs a key to solve otherwise it's unsolvable. /head pat That's cute. But incorrect.  It's called cryptanalysis. Of course, it'll be easiest if it's a simple substitution cipher.  If it's more complicated, like a Playfair or Vigenerre cipher, then it'll take more work. Of course, it's not very long, so we can't make a real statistic attack either. Hrm... damnit, now you've piqued my interest.  Let me go grab my old books and see what the distribution should be.  I think it's probably too short for that to be too reliable, but it should give me an indication of if it's a substition or not.
#30 EscherEnigma Oct 06, 2012 14:04:54	my work From the frequency analysis I'm pretty sure you didn't go too fancy.  I'm putting my money on a mono-alphabetic cipher.  A Ceaser shift would probably be easiest and would slow down the game the least, so I'll check that first, but I'm not really expecting it.  Then again, I'd actually find it hilarious if you whipped out the Playfair in a game.  I mean really, who the hell is gonna expect that?  (Pulling out the Vigenere would just be mean, and only be appropriate if you're gonna send the coded message home with teh players to solve before next week).
#31 EscherEnigma Oct 06, 2012 14:30:40	my continung work I was right.  Not a Caeser shift.  Went through all 26 permutations (normally it'd be 25 permutations but we're starting without letters so...)
#32 EscherEnigma Oct 06, 2012 14:48:15	Me and the SO would like to know two things: the context in which this is found (situational clues and all that jazz) and to confirm that the plaintext is in English and not, say, Spanish or French. But yeah... our conclusion is that it's too short for a good frequency attack, it's not a Caeser shift, the lack of contractions and abscence of single-letter words... it's a pretty tough cryptoquip.  Have you actually had anyone manage to solve it in under an hour?  (not whether you think you could, if you made it your opinion on how long it should take to solve it is pretty moot.) I think we're gonna continue to plink at it, but my conclusion is that unless your group are master puzzle-solvers then this might be a major slow-down in your game absent of some other unmentioned clue.  Not impossible, but probably time-consuming and not necessarily a group activity (again, unless this is a sort of thing your group does together regularly, but that's kind on the fringe side of things, ya know?)
#33 malcairad Oct 06, 2012 17:36:25	Me and the SO would like to know two things: the context in which this is found (situational clues and all that jazz) and to confirm that the plaintext is in English and not, say, Spanish or French. But yeah... our conclusion is that it's too short for a good frequency attack, it's not a Caeser shift, the lack of contractions and abscence of single-letter words... it's a pretty tough cryptoquip.  Have you actually had anyone manage to solve it in under an hour?  (not whether you think you could, if you made it your opinion on how long it should take to solve it is pretty moot.) I think we're gonna continue to plink at it, but my conclusion is that unless your group are master puzzle-solvers then this might be a major slow-down in your game absent of some other unmentioned clue.  Not impossible, but probably time-consuming and not necessarily a group activity (again, unless this is a sort of thing your group does together regularly, but that's kind on the fringe side of things, ya know?)  it is i english it was found in a chest with other unique items at the begining of a campaign. if my players did not solve it before they achieved what it mentioned i was going to have an npc decipher for them, they had long time to work with it
#34 ADHadh Oct 06, 2012 17:53:03	I guess EE doesn't call himself a code-monkey for nothing
#35 malcairad Oct 08, 2012 17:18:42	was going over my code making sure it was correctand found one small mistake 11 26 20 1 21 13 18   should be  11 26 20__1 21 13 18 if you solved this puzzle that may have stumped you for a moment but you shou8ldve realized my mistake by that point
#36 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 08, 2012 18:02:07	was going over my code making sure it was correctand found one small mistake 11 26 20 1 21 13 18   should be  11 26 20__1 21 13 18 if you solved this puzzle that may have stumped you for a moment but you shou8ldve realized my mistake by that point Nobody is trying, dude. Sorry to tell you so bluntly since you did not seem to understand under all the snark. Yup. Not only is nobody trying.... nobody cares.
#37 The_Silversword Oct 08, 2012 23:38:39	Well EE was trying, and to be honest, yeah I did too, tried a few different combinations, nothing seemed to work, although I might try it again since the OP has corected it, im willing to bet that one of those 3 letter words is 'the'.
#38 EscherEnigma Oct 09, 2012 21:00:54	Eh.  Honestly, it's too short for a good statistical attack (especially if the coded message uses the word "wizard" multiple times.  "Z" is supposed to be uncommon, damnit). 'course, if I could find a good open-source dictionary library, I might write a short program to do a dictionary attack and return for review the ciphers with the highest real word matches...  But honestly, if the best attack I have is brute force, then I think that means I've already lost.
#39 homicidal_squirrel Oct 09, 2012 21:50:34	Eh.  Honestly, it's too short for a good statistical attack (especially if the coded message uses the word "wizard" multiple times.  "Z" is supposed to be uncommon, damnit). 'course, if I could find a good open-source dictionary library, I might write a short program to do a dictionary attack and return for review the ciphers with the highest real word matches...  But honestly, if the best attack I have is brute force, then I think that means I've already lost.  Pfft... loser.
#40 EscherEnigma Oct 09, 2012 22:08:21	/shrug Claims by ADHadh aside, I'm a code monkey because I like writing code, not because I'm skilled at cracking codes.
#41 zombie_babies Oct 10, 2012 7:37:25	And it's not like there's any benefit to spending the required time to crack this one, either.
#42 homicidal_squirrel Oct 10, 2012 7:46:16	And it's not like there's any benefit to spending the required time to crack this one, either. Yup.
#43 zombie_babies Oct 10, 2012 10:32:01	I mean, if there was a prize or something, maybe it'd be worth spending the time.  Cuz then it wouldn't be a waste, yanno?  Like, if he was offering or with to the first person to solve it correctly, I'd, like, totally think about maybe trying an' junk.
#44 malcairad Oct 11, 2012 23:09:28	there are no Z's or Q's i the text
#45 homicidal_squirrel Oct 11, 2012 23:13:02	there are no Z's or Q's i the text So has your group solved it? I don't think anyone here is going to waste the time required to solve it. EE was your best hope, but even he seems to just not care enough.
#46 lokiare Oct 12, 2012 1:26:15	Looking at the code, if it is a straight up letter replacement cypher you can see that there are two 3 letter words that have 2 of the same letters in them. Then there is a 5 letter word with one of those two letters twice. Clues like that should give a clever person enough info to go on to solve it. Unfortunately while I am clever I'm also lazy, so I downloaded a brute force program which I am running until tomorrow in the hopes it will figure it out...
#47 selims1693 Oct 12, 2012 1:55:58	there are no Z's or Q's i the text If this is true, then you are either using non-letter characters as a part of your code or this is not a simple letter/number replacement cypher. Your code contains at least one instance of every number between 1 and 26.
#48 The_Silversword Oct 12, 2012 2:01:23	I think its an alternating pattern.
#49 malcairad Oct 12, 2012 7:02:33	there are no Z's or Q's i the text So has your group solved it? I don't think anyone here is going to waste the time required to solve it. EE was your best hope, but even he seems to just not care enough. no, my group has not reached the point where my npc will have to solve it for them either each letter is represented by a single number and there are no numbers or symbols in the text and yes it is in eglish and no it is not a simple number=letter code
#50 EscherEnigma Oct 12, 2012 12:08:56	... yeah... if it's not a monoalphabetic cipher, then it's too short for me try cracking.
#51 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 17:23:00	This thread is still here?
#52 ADHadh Oct 12, 2012 17:56:15	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it
#53 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 18:00:51	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it
#54 homicidal_squirrel Oct 12, 2012 20:12:21	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it And you just continue to bump it. It's as if you want this thread to continue.
#55 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 20:13:26	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it And you just continue to bump it. It's as if you want this thread to continue. Please help me... I can't stop!
#56 homicidal_squirrel Oct 12, 2012 20:22:15	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it And you just continue to bump it. It's as if you want this thread to continue. Please help me... I can't stop! You really can't...
#57 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 20:38:04	I solved it!!!!! Show www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
#58 pigknight Oct 12, 2012 21:24:10	Show That was a pretty bad one Hoodzie. Could use a little practice on the execution. 2/10.
#59 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 22:26:54	Show That was a pretty bad one Hoodzie. Could use a little practice on the execution. 2/10.
#60 malcairad Oct 15, 2012 10:22:55	the first word is WHEN
#61 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 15, 2012 10:31:33	When will this end!?
#62 homicidal_squirrel Oct 15, 2012 12:42:03	When will this end!?
#63 pigknight Oct 15, 2012 15:21:17	But the 1st word has 5 numbers, what witchcraft is this?
#64 homicidal_squirrel Oct 15, 2012 20:17:37	But the 1st word has 5 numbers, what witchcraft is this? He can't count?
#65 The_Silversword Oct 16, 2012 1:17:50	But the 1st word has 5 numbers, what witchcraft is this? One of those numbers obviously represents something other than a letter then. Im actually getting a little intrigued here haha.
#66 malcairad Oct 18, 2012 10:15:13	the first word is WHEN, the solve is take the numbers and subtract them from each other to get the numbers which represent the letters of the alphabet, therefore a 3 letter word like THE would need 4 numbers ie: 2 22 14 9
#67 homicidal_squirrel Oct 18, 2012 10:49:16	the first word is WHEN, the solve is take the numbers and subtract them from each other to get the numbers which represent the letters of the alphabet, therefore a 3 letter word like THE would need 4 numbers ie: 2 22 14 9 Seriously dude, no one cares. You may want to post this up in one of the D&D related forums. The only reason anyone here was interested was to break the code. Now that you've given out the key, people are going to go back to not caring at all.
#68 zombie_babies Oct 18, 2012 11:39:36	Yeah, there's not much puzzle left when you give the solution out like that.
#69 malcairad Oct 18, 2012 17:12:37	okay so first im told noone cares to give it up, the it keeps going with noone caring, then im asked for some kind of clue or key and yet noone cares so ow i give the key an nooone cares again but i dont know when someone cared caused everyone kept saying noone cares so i am confused who cares/cared and who didnt and who wanted the key and who didnt care about the key and who wanted to try and solve it and who didnt care about solving it. can someone clarify this mess for me?
#70 ADHadh Oct 18, 2012 17:13:23	okay so first im told noone cares to give it up, the it keeps going with noone caring, then im asked for some kind of clue or key and yet noone cares so ow i give the key an nooone cares again but i dont know when someone cared caused everyone kept saying noone cares so i am confused who cares/cared and who didnt and who wanted the key and who didnt care about the key and who wanted to try and solve it and who didnt care about solving it. can someone clarify this mess for me? Welcome to OTT!
#71 homicidal_squirrel Oct 18, 2012 17:22:45	okay so first im told noone cares to give it up, the it keeps going with noone caring, then im asked for some kind of clue or key and yet noone cares so ow i give the key an nooone cares again but i dont know when someone cared caused everyone kept saying noone cares so i am confused who cares/cared and who didnt and who wanted the key and who didnt care about the key and who wanted to try and solve it and who didnt care about solving it. can someone clarify this mess for me? This is very simple. No one cares or cared. EE was a bit interested in solving it because he likes that kind of stuff. However, he didn't care enough to spend the time required to break your code. So while he was interested, he didn't care and went back to not being interested. Everyone else just didn't care. Like really. They just didn't care. The OTT isn't known for caring about D&D related topics. Also, no one asked for the key. I dont even think anyone asked for a hint (or cared if you gave one). People just went "Meh... I don't care." You gave out the key, so anyone who up until this point people who didn't care, really didn't care about the key, much less trying to figure out a code that didn't need figuring out anymore. Worst of all, by giving out the key, anyone who hasn't read this thread, and who may have possibly cared, won't care anymore because you gave out the key. So you CBed people caring about your coded message.  The only thing people realy cared about was letting you know that no one cares. Is it any clearer? I don't really care if it is.
#72 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 18, 2012 17:39:59	Yeah. I never cared, and still don't.
#73 homicidal_squirrel Oct 18, 2012 17:45:14	Yeah. I never cared, and still don't. Save it. No one cares, dude.
#74 jetshield Oct 18, 2012 18:41:00	I care! But only about not caring.
#75 pigknight Oct 18, 2012 21:15:47	I cared about if EE cracked the code with brute force like he said he was going to. BTW did your group ever crack it?
#76 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 18, 2012 21:19:30
#77 EscherEnigma Oct 18, 2012 22:19:53	I cared about if EE cracked the code with brute force like he said he was going to. Nope.  And on seeing the answer, it wouldn't have worked.  What I would have seen was a bunch of different keys that each gave a word with a random letter at the end, which might have led me to figure it out, but I doubt it. Still curious if there's an open source dictionary library out there though.  Never did look into that.
#78 pigknight Oct 18, 2012 22:22:48	www.google.com/search?q=open+source+dict...
#79 The_Silversword Oct 19, 2012 2:12:26	I would have figured it out eventually, I was in the process of adding the numbers together, it was just a matter of time before i started subtracting.
#82 homicidal_squirrel Oct 10, 2012 7:46:16	And it's not like there's any benefit to spending the required time to crack this one, either. Yup.
#83 zombie_babies Oct 10, 2012 10:32:01	I mean, if there was a prize or something, maybe it'd be worth spending the time.  Cuz then it wouldn't be a waste, yanno?  Like, if he was offering or with to the first person to solve it correctly, I'd, like, totally think about maybe trying an' junk.
#84 malcairad Oct 11, 2012 23:09:28	there are no Z's or Q's i the text
#85 homicidal_squirrel Oct 11, 2012 23:13:02	there are no Z's or Q's i the text So has your group solved it? I don't think anyone here is going to waste the time required to solve it. EE was your best hope, but even he seems to just not care enough.
#86 lokiare Oct 12, 2012 1:26:15	Looking at the code, if it is a straight up letter replacement cypher you can see that there are two 3 letter words that have 2 of the same letters in them. Then there is a 5 letter word with one of those two letters twice. Clues like that should give a clever person enough info to go on to solve it. Unfortunately while I am clever I'm also lazy, so I downloaded a brute force program which I am running until tomorrow in the hopes it will figure it out...
#87 selims1693 Oct 12, 2012 1:55:58	there are no Z's or Q's i the text If this is true, then you are either using non-letter characters as a part of your code or this is not a simple letter/number replacement cypher. Your code contains at least one instance of every number between 1 and 26.
#88 The_Silversword Oct 12, 2012 2:01:23	I think its an alternating pattern.
#89 malcairad Oct 12, 2012 7:02:33	there are no Z's or Q's i the text So has your group solved it? I don't think anyone here is going to waste the time required to solve it. EE was your best hope, but even he seems to just not care enough. no, my group has not reached the point where my npc will have to solve it for them either each letter is represented by a single number and there are no numbers or symbols in the text and yes it is in eglish and no it is not a simple number=letter code
#90 EscherEnigma Oct 12, 2012 12:08:56	... yeah... if it's not a monoalphabetic cipher, then it's too short for me try cracking.
#91 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 17:23:00	This thread is still here?
#92 ADHadh Oct 12, 2012 17:56:15	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it
#93 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 18:00:51	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it
#94 homicidal_squirrel Oct 12, 2012 20:12:21	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it And you just continue to bump it. It's as if you want this thread to continue.
#95 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 20:13:26	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it And you just continue to bump it. It's as if you want this thread to continue. Please help me... I can't stop!
#96 homicidal_squirrel Oct 12, 2012 20:22:15	This thread is still here? Yep, and you've just bumped it And you just continue to bump it. It's as if you want this thread to continue. Please help me... I can't stop! You really can't...
#97 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 20:38:04	I solved it!!!!! Show www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
#98 pigknight Oct 12, 2012 21:24:10	Show That was a pretty bad one Hoodzie. Could use a little practice on the execution. 2/10.
#99 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 12, 2012 22:26:54	Show That was a pretty bad one Hoodzie. Could use a little practice on the execution. 2/10.
#100 malcairad Oct 15, 2012 10:22:55	the first word is WHEN
#101 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 15, 2012 10:31:33	When will this end!?
#102 homicidal_squirrel Oct 15, 2012 12:42:03	When will this end!?
#103 pigknight Oct 15, 2012 15:21:17	But the 1st word has 5 numbers, what witchcraft is this?
#104 homicidal_squirrel Oct 15, 2012 20:17:37	But the 1st word has 5 numbers, what witchcraft is this? He can't count?
#105 The_Silversword Oct 16, 2012 1:17:50	But the 1st word has 5 numbers, what witchcraft is this? One of those numbers obviously represents something other than a letter then. Im actually getting a little intrigued here haha.
#106 malcairad Oct 18, 2012 10:15:13	the first word is WHEN, the solve is take the numbers and subtract them from each other to get the numbers which represent the letters of the alphabet, therefore a 3 letter word like THE would need 4 numbers ie: 2 22 14 9
#107 homicidal_squirrel Oct 18, 2012 10:49:16	the first word is WHEN, the solve is take the numbers and subtract them from each other to get the numbers which represent the letters of the alphabet, therefore a 3 letter word like THE would need 4 numbers ie: 2 22 14 9 Seriously dude, no one cares. You may want to post this up in one of the D&D related forums. The only reason anyone here was interested was to break the code. Now that you've given out the key, people are going to go back to not caring at all.
#108 zombie_babies Oct 18, 2012 11:39:36	Yeah, there's not much puzzle left when you give the solution out like that.
#109 malcairad Oct 18, 2012 17:12:37	okay so first im told noone cares to give it up, the it keeps going with noone caring, then im asked for some kind of clue or key and yet noone cares so ow i give the key an nooone cares again but i dont know when someone cared caused everyone kept saying noone cares so i am confused who cares/cared and who didnt and who wanted the key and who didnt care about the key and who wanted to try and solve it and who didnt care about solving it. can someone clarify this mess for me?
#110 ADHadh Oct 18, 2012 17:13:23	okay so first im told noone cares to give it up, the it keeps going with noone caring, then im asked for some kind of clue or key and yet noone cares so ow i give the key an nooone cares again but i dont know when someone cared caused everyone kept saying noone cares so i am confused who cares/cared and who didnt and who wanted the key and who didnt care about the key and who wanted to try and solve it and who didnt care about solving it. can someone clarify this mess for me? Welcome to OTT!
#111 homicidal_squirrel Oct 18, 2012 17:22:45	okay so first im told noone cares to give it up, the it keeps going with noone caring, then im asked for some kind of clue or key and yet noone cares so ow i give the key an nooone cares again but i dont know when someone cared caused everyone kept saying noone cares so i am confused who cares/cared and who didnt and who wanted the key and who didnt care about the key and who wanted to try and solve it and who didnt care about solving it. can someone clarify this mess for me? This is very simple. No one cares or cared. EE was a bit interested in solving it because he likes that kind of stuff. However, he didn't care enough to spend the time required to break your code. So while he was interested, he didn't care and went back to not being interested. Everyone else just didn't care. Like really. They just didn't care. The OTT isn't known for caring about D&D related topics. Also, no one asked for the key. I dont even think anyone asked for a hint (or cared if you gave one). People just went "Meh... I don't care." You gave out the key, so anyone who up until this point people who didn't care, really didn't care about the key, much less trying to figure out a code that didn't need figuring out anymore. Worst of all, by giving out the key, anyone who hasn't read this thread, and who may have possibly cared, won't care anymore because you gave out the key. So you CBed people caring about your coded message.  The only thing people realy cared about was letting you know that no one cares. Is it any clearer? I don't really care if it is.
#112 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 18, 2012 17:39:59	Yeah. I never cared, and still don't.
#113 homicidal_squirrel Oct 18, 2012 17:45:14	Yeah. I never cared, and still don't. Save it. No one cares, dude.
#114 jetshield Oct 18, 2012 18:41:00	I care! But only about not caring.
#115 pigknight Oct 18, 2012 21:15:47	I cared about if EE cracked the code with brute force like he said he was going to. BTW did your group ever crack it?
#116 Robin_Hoodlum Oct 18, 2012 21:19:30
#117 EscherEnigma Oct 18, 2012 22:19:53	I cared about if EE cracked the code with brute force like he said he was going to. Nope.  And on seeing the answer, it wouldn't have worked.  What I would have seen was a bunch of different keys that each gave a word with a random letter at the end, which might have led me to figure it out, but I doubt it. Still curious if there's an open source dictionary library out there though.  Never did look into that.
#118 pigknight Oct 18, 2012 22:22:48	www.google.com/search?q=open+source+dict...
#119 The_Silversword Oct 19, 2012 2:12:26	I would have figured it out eventually, I was in the process of adding the numbers together, it was just a matter of time before i started subtracting.