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#1 homicidal_squirrel Apr 16, 2011 22:58:48	news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110417/ap_on_re_us...
#2 Idolis Apr 16, 2011 23:21:59	Even though I know the racists roots of depicting blackmen as apes or monkeys I remember Mad Magazine doing a cover with Bush as a chimp. At what point does making fun of a president cross into being racist? This article is a poor example because the e-mail caters to birthers but I hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.
#3 Idolis Apr 17, 2011 0:12:03	Yeah, I agree that e-mail probably was meant to be a racist jab. Like I said, the article is a poor example but I think if the same picture was doctored to show Bush's face instead of Obama's with the caption "Now you know why they didn't find WMD's" we would all think that was funny (maybe not all but at least some of us would). I realize context is everything and the context this e-mail was sent in is pretty racism filled. (I can't say for certain that all birthers are racist but it is my personal belief that most are or at least a significant number of them are.)
#4 pluisjen Apr 17, 2011 5:13:53	It's funny when it's done by random people or the media. It's not funny when it's done by the people that are supposed to work with and support the president. Kinda like the difference between sending an email making fun of a friend to all your friends, and sending an email around your office making fun of your boss. The first can be amusing (depending on the joke) the second is most likely seen as "highly unprofessional" (depending on the office)
#5 homicidal_squirrel Apr 17, 2011 11:11:45	I think that representing "birthers" as racist is insulting to racists.
#6 Maxperson Apr 17, 2011 11:17:41	I think that representing "birthers" as racist is insulting to racists. Then clearly you need help with your ability to tell how bad one thing is when compared to another.  Racism is far worse than people who are just stupid.
#7 homicidal_squirrel Apr 17, 2011 11:18:43	You could argue whether or not the email was sent out and intended to be racist, you could argue that there is a double standard when it comes to racism... but you cab't argue the stupidity and arrogance demonstrated by this woman. seriously, when your political party is already seen as racist by a large portion of people, especially your opponents, is it really wise to send out an email with a picture that can so easily be called racist? How stupid do you really have to be? She should be removed from her office for her shear stupidity. And then to have the arrogance to not even admit that it was a mistake to send the pic (wheter racist or not) and call out the person who leaked it to the media. If the people in your own party and calling your picture racist, and they are denouncing you for doing it, is it really the smartest thing to be calling out people for your stupidity?
#8 Maxperson Apr 17, 2011 13:03:30	You could argue whether or not the email was sent out and intended to be racist, you could argue that there is a double standard when it comes to racism... but you cab't argue the stupidity and arrogance demonstrated by this woman. seriously, when your political party is already seen as racist by a large portion of people, especially your opponents, is it really wise to send out an email with a picture that can so easily be called racist? How stupid do you really have to be? She should be removed from her office for her shear stupidity. And then to have the arrogance to not even admit that it was a mistake to send the pic (wheter racist or not) and call out the person who leaked it to the media. If the people in your own party and calling your picture racist, and they are denouncing you for doing it, is it really the smartest thing to be calling out people for your stupidity?  Yeah.  It was pretty stupid of her to do.  I was listening to the story on the radio today and was astonished at all the dumb moves that she has made.
#9 salla Apr 17, 2011 15:19:24	I think that representing "birthers" as racist is insulting to racists. Then clearly you need help with your ability to tell how bad one thing is when compared to another.  Racism is far worse than people who are just stupid. Racists are stupid. Seconded. And, hey a racist teabagger, what are the odds ...
#10 The_Silversword Apr 17, 2011 17:05:13	I thought it was funny.
#11 boraxe Apr 18, 2011 8:00:59	Then clearly you need help with your ability to tell how bad one thing is when compared to another. Then clearly you need help with your ability to recognize ironic quips.
#12 zombie_babies Apr 18, 2011 9:48:24	What an idiot.  On so many levels, too.  Just wow.
#13 Maxperson Apr 18, 2011 10:22:19	Then clearly you need help with your ability to tell how bad one thing is when compared to another. Then clearly you need help with your ability to recognize ironic quips. Maybe or maybe not, but there was no "irony" there.  He made a simple statement that was simply not anywhere close to true.
#14 boraxe Apr 18, 2011 15:37:30	Then clearly you need help with your ability to tell how bad one thing is when compared to another. Then clearly you need help with your ability to recognize ironic quips. Maybe or maybe not, but there was no "irony" there.  He made a simple statement that was simply not anywhere close to true. Then clearly you need help with your ability to recognize irony.
#15 Jharii Apr 18, 2011 15:41:42	Then clearly you need help with your ability to tell how bad one thing is when compared to another. Then clearly you need help with your ability to recognize ironic quips. Maybe or maybe not, but there was no "irony" there.  He made a simple statement that was simply not anywhere close to true. Then clearly you need help with your ability to recognize irony. Spoiler alert: it has a distinct ferric odor.
#16 homicidal_squirrel Apr 18, 2011 21:35:27	Ok, I saw the picture. It is racist. It also had this under it (my translation): "Now we know why he doesn't have a birth certificate". That is the picture. You can see what the problem is.
#17 homicidal_squirrel Apr 18, 2011 22:02:50	Ok, I saw the picture. It is racist. It also had this under it (my translation): "Now we know why he doesn't have a birth certificate". That is the picture. You can see what the problem is. An Obama-chimp looking at congress and scraching his head wouldn't of been racist, for example. But that pic was. And Chimps shouldn't wear red. For some reason reading your coment made me rrealize that the planet of the ape movies could be all about congress. I could imagine all the senators and representatives being apes jumping around and screaming. Yeah... that seems about right.
#18 Ragnar_Lodbrok Apr 18, 2011 22:15:40	Ok, I saw the picture. It is racist. It also had this under it (my translation): "Now we know why he doesn't have a birth certificate". That is the picture. You can see what the problem is. An Obama-chimp looking at congress and scraching his head wouldn't of been racist, for example. But that pic was. And Chimps shouldn't wear red. For some reason reading your coment made me rrealize that the planet of the ape movies could be all about congress. I could imagine all the senators and representatives being apes jumping around and screaming. Yeah... that seems about right. Wait, they aren't? ...That would explain why no one has called animal control to the Capitol Building.
#19 Ragnar_Lodbrok Apr 18, 2011 22:54:59	You guys do know you are the ones who voted for them, right? Actually, I can't vote for another year.
#20 toastedamphibian Apr 18, 2011 23:14:22	You guys do know you are the ones who voted for them, right? You do realize you voted to be canadian, right?
#21 pluisjen Apr 19, 2011 2:28:14	I guess around the same time those other people voted their senators into the house. You know, long before you were born. At least that's what I understood from Micha, that most of the guys have been their for many, many years already and won't give up their seat until they die in it.
#22 toastedamphibian Apr 19, 2011 4:59:04	You guys do know you are the ones who voted for them, right? You do realize you voted to be canadian, right? Really? When did I do that? Well, someone voted for Quebec to be part of Canada, and thoes people where (or became) Canadian, and you are Canadian, therefore, according to the reasoning you used above, you voted for it. More to the point; stop being an idiot.
#23 zombie_babies Apr 19, 2011 9:24:30	Ah, in the finest French tradition.
#24 Maxperson Apr 19, 2011 9:33:50	You guys do know you are the ones who voted for them, right? You do realize you voted to be canadian, right? Really? When did I do that? Well, someone voted for Quebec to be part of Canada, and thoes people where (or became) Canadian, and you are Canadian, therefore, according to the reasoning you used above, you voted for it. More to the point; stop being an idiot. Actually no vote was held. Québec was conquered. No.  Quebec was not conquered.  Quebec didn't even exist during the war.  After the war, France gave the rest of New France to the British via treaty papers, so not even all of Quebec was conquered.  Much of it was simply given away.  AFTER the war, a good portion of New France became Quebec and the rest became other provinces.
#25 Maxperson Apr 19, 2011 10:23:14	Thank you for remining me about my history. It is much simpler to to say Québec was conquered then to give an history lesson everytime I start whinning. I think people here are intelligent enough to understand... Maybe... Simple, but completely innacurate.  And it has nothing to do with intelligence.  Many people aren't well versed in history, so your "simpler" explanation decieves them.
#26 ViolenceJack Apr 19, 2011 10:36:41	Yep. Territory ceded after a war? Conquered, in common parlance. If you're giving an academic history lecture, sure. Conquered might be the wrong term. But this is not an academic lecture or paper, but is a common conversation for which the word conquered fits what happened.
#27 zombie_babies Apr 19, 2011 10:38:10	Surrender has advantages. Now 400 years later, we are still here demanding our freedom, instead of rebelling and being exterminated. Still there saying much and accomplishing little.  I guess it's not a very French thing to believe that ol' adage 'I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.'  Either that or you're not really a subjugated people.  Come to think of it, when the French were conquered in WWII, many did decide they'd rather die on their feet if it meant freedom for their countyrmen.  The resistance was a pretty big deal.  Guess that part of Frenchness stayed distinctly French.  We shall see how you guys do when Arabed and Chinese and Mexicans run your country. You mean today?  We're ok.  Funnily enough, an old movie took a look at this.  Red Dawn.  Classic stuff.  I guess they're remaking it, too.  'Course this time they've been, I guess, 'asked' not to use the Chinese as an enemy in it.  Tee hee.
#28 EscherEnigma Apr 19, 2011 11:27:26	Really? When did I do that? When you legally became an adult and stayed.
#29 zombie_babies Apr 19, 2011 11:40:04	We resisted in our own way. By copulating. We called it the revenge of the cradles. We made babies after babies, so we were too numerous to smother. No violence and alot of fun resisting. Well now that's a form of resistance I can get behind!  'Course it seems as though it's over, too.  At least according to the link.
#30 Cpt_Micha Apr 19, 2011 12:02:07	Well Zb you have to remember, the french say they are good at that sort of thing, when it comes to being on their knees.....
#31 homicidal_squirrel Apr 19, 2011 13:16:47	We resisted in our own way. By copulating. We called it the revenge of the cradles. We made babies after babies, so we were too numerous to smother. No violence and alot of fun resisting. It may have started out right, but it seems you guys forgot what goes where, and how to do it properly.  Since the Quiet Revolution, the situation has been reversed as Quebec has become one of the places in the world with the lowest birth rates You need more people of latin/hispanic origins to teach you how it is done.
#32 Cpt_Micha Apr 19, 2011 15:28:36	Yeah... those people haven't obviously been paying much attention to locations of videos on the internet.... it doesn't get much more free than being willing to bang a horse.
#33 homicidal_squirrel Apr 19, 2011 16:35:41	Yeah, but hispanic women aren't free like ours. We have the greatest women in the world! Well according to what immigrants write in the bathrooms in our universities.  My guess is that you are not reading it correctly. It's probably a language thing
#34 ViolenceJack Apr 19, 2011 18:10:22	Yeah... those people haven't obviously been paying much attention to locations of videos on the internet.... it doesn't get much more free than being willing to bang a horse. Umm... do you think that people really do that willingly? (HINT: No.)
#35 homicidal_squirrel Apr 19, 2011 19:57:27	Yeah... those people haven't obviously been paying much attention to locations of videos on the internet.... it doesn't get much more free than being willing to bang a horse. Umm... do you think that people really do that willingly? (HINT: No.) Actually... yes... yes they do... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex...
#36 Cpt_Micha Apr 19, 2011 20:27:17	Thanks squirrel that was one of the incidents I was thinking of. That and some other incidents.
#37 Ragnar_Lodbrok Apr 19, 2011 20:34:17	Yeah... those people haven't obviously been paying much attention to locations of videos on the internet.... it doesn't get much more free than being willing to bang a horse. Umm... do you think that people really do that willingly? (HINT: No.) Actually... yes... yes they do... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex...  And that is why people around here make Enumclaw jokes.
#38 pluisjen Apr 20, 2011 1:41:41	Yeah, but hispanic women aren't free like ours. We have the greatest women in the world! Well according to what immigrants write in the bathrooms in our universities.  My guess is that you are not reading it correctly. It's probably a language thing No no no. They say our women are like one of the 8 wonders of the world and Québec women are easy and sluts! It makes me proud that we do not judge our women for liking and engaging in sex, like normal individuals do. You know, if you call them "sluts" you do kinda judge them, since it's a word with a very negative sound.
#39 zombie_babies Apr 20, 2011 8:58:04	The English equivalent of that would be 'go-er'.
#40 zombie_babies Apr 20, 2011 10:25:36	Heh, I threw his word in Google Translate and it turns out there is an English equivalent: ****.
#41 zombie_babies Apr 20, 2011 11:39:12	I don't, man.  That's the culture, man.  I'm, like, totally outside that stuff, man.
#42 homicidal_squirrel Apr 20, 2011 13:17:30	Heh, I threw his word in Google Translate and it turns out there is an English equivalent: ****.  Not my fault you guys associate negative stuff with sex. Only if they are ugly.
#43 Timmeh Apr 20, 2011 17:34:17	Not my fault you guys associate negative stuff with sex. Who in their right mind thinks sex is a negative experiance? Even bad sex is better than no sex. Yet **** is negative word. You can't show **** on TV (Janette Jackson). We can't talk about pornos here. **** is a negative word. I'm fine with promiscuity. But **** is negative because of the amount of men involved.
#44 Jharii Apr 20, 2011 17:35:31	Vixen.  I like that word.  I like vixens better than I like the word vixen.
#45 homicidal_squirrel Apr 20, 2011 17:35:50	Not my fault you guys associate negative stuff with sex. Who in their right mind thinks sex is a negative experiance? Even bad sex is better than no sex. Yet **** is negative word. You can't show **** on TV (Janette Jackson). We can't talk about pornos here. **** is a negative word. I'm fine with promiscuity. But **** is negative because of the amount of men involved. At the same time?
#46 Timmeh Apr 20, 2011 17:51:23	I suppose that might be... No no no! IT'S ALL BAD! IT'S ALL VERY VERY BAD!
#47 Jharii Apr 20, 2011 18:02:29	I think I am starting to understand why Goldo wants to see animals as equal to human beings...
#48 Jharii Apr 20, 2011 18:28:30	Wow, comparing women to animals, how constructive and mature. No wonder yo uhaven'T been laid in 2 years.  Still doesn't explain why a women who had more sexual partners is worse then the women who hasn't. Aside from out dated Judeo-Christian morals, of course. LOL.  My 2 year response to you in another thread was simply a joke to deflect your poor trolling attack.  And I am not comparing women to animals.  Not even close.  You're stretching again. And I don't have a problem with women being experienced.  Bark up a different tree.
#49 Timmeh Apr 20, 2011 20:18:00	I don't have a problem with women (actually, screw women. This applies for everyone) being experienced. I have a problem with people being sluts. There's a difference. Experienced people have had a lot of sex. They may have even been sluts in the past. Sluts are people who, according to my definition, sleep with many guys/girls without a goal of having a meaningful relationship with that person, whether its just friends with benefits or something more towards romance.
#50 homicidal_squirrel Apr 20, 2011 20:27:43	I don't have a problem with women (actually, screw women. This applies for everyone) being experienced. I have a problem with people being sluts. There's a difference. Experienced people have had a lot of sex. They may have even been sluts in the past. Sluts are people who, according to my definition, sleep with many guys/girls without a goal of having a meaningful relationship with that person, whether its just friends with benefits or something more towards romance. Why should people have the goal of having "a meaningful relationship?"
#51 EscherEnigma Apr 20, 2011 21:20:45	Some people need a mommy or a daddy in their life. If your SO is being a "mommy or a daddy" then you and them both are doing it wrong.
#52 Timmeh Apr 20, 2011 21:24:46	I don't have a problem with women (actually, screw women. This applies for everyone) being experienced. I have a problem with people being sluts. There's a difference. Experienced people have had a lot of sex. They may have even been sluts in the past. Sluts are people who, according to my definition, sleep with many guys/girls without a goal of having a meaningful relationship with that person, whether its just friends with benefits or something more towards romance. If everyone is aware of everything, why should being a "****" be negative? If no one wants to be in a relationship, why is is bad? Easy. For the vast majority of the time, that isn't how it happens.
#53 zombie_babies Apr 21, 2011 10:41:57	If your SO is being a "mommy or a daddy" then you and them both are doing it wrong. ... or your mommy or daddy did it very, very wrong.
#82 homicidal_squirrel Apr 20, 2011 13:17:30	Heh, I threw his word in Google Translate and it turns out there is an English equivalent: ****.  Not my fault you guys associate negative stuff with sex. Only if they are ugly.
#83 Timmeh Apr 20, 2011 17:34:17	Not my fault you guys associate negative stuff with sex. Who in their right mind thinks sex is a negative experiance? Even bad sex is better than no sex. Yet **** is negative word. You can't show **** on TV (Janette Jackson). We can't talk about pornos here. **** is a negative word. I'm fine with promiscuity. But **** is negative because of the amount of men involved.
#84 Jharii Apr 20, 2011 17:35:31	Vixen.  I like that word.  I like vixens better than I like the word vixen.
#85 homicidal_squirrel Apr 20, 2011 17:35:50	Not my fault you guys associate negative stuff with sex. Who in their right mind thinks sex is a negative experiance? Even bad sex is better than no sex. Yet **** is negative word. You can't show **** on TV (Janette Jackson). We can't talk about pornos here. **** is a negative word. I'm fine with promiscuity. But **** is negative because of the amount of men involved. At the same time?
#86 Timmeh Apr 20, 2011 17:51:23	I suppose that might be... No no no! IT'S ALL BAD! IT'S ALL VERY VERY BAD!
#87 Jharii Apr 20, 2011 18:02:29	I think I am starting to understand why Goldo wants to see animals as equal to human beings...
#88 Jharii Apr 20, 2011 18:28:30	Wow, comparing women to animals, how constructive and mature. No wonder yo uhaven'T been laid in 2 years.  Still doesn't explain why a women who had more sexual partners is worse then the women who hasn't. Aside from out dated Judeo-Christian morals, of course. LOL.  My 2 year response to you in another thread was simply a joke to deflect your poor trolling attack.  And I am not comparing women to animals.  Not even close.  You're stretching again. And I don't have a problem with women being experienced.  Bark up a different tree.
#89 Timmeh Apr 20, 2011 20:18:00	I don't have a problem with women (actually, screw women. This applies for everyone) being experienced. I have a problem with people being sluts. There's a difference. Experienced people have had a lot of sex. They may have even been sluts in the past. Sluts are people who, according to my definition, sleep with many guys/girls without a goal of having a meaningful relationship with that person, whether its just friends with benefits or something more towards romance.
#90 homicidal_squirrel Apr 20, 2011 20:27:43	I don't have a problem with women (actually, screw women. This applies for everyone) being experienced. I have a problem with people being sluts. There's a difference. Experienced people have had a lot of sex. They may have even been sluts in the past. Sluts are people who, according to my definition, sleep with many guys/girls without a goal of having a meaningful relationship with that person, whether its just friends with benefits or something more towards romance. Why should people have the goal of having "a meaningful relationship?"
#91 EscherEnigma Apr 20, 2011 21:20:45	Some people need a mommy or a daddy in their life. If your SO is being a "mommy or a daddy" then you and them both are doing it wrong.
#92 Timmeh Apr 20, 2011 21:24:46	I don't have a problem with women (actually, screw women. This applies for everyone) being experienced. I have a problem with people being sluts. There's a difference. Experienced people have had a lot of sex. They may have even been sluts in the past. Sluts are people who, according to my definition, sleep with many guys/girls without a goal of having a meaningful relationship with that person, whether its just friends with benefits or something more towards romance. If everyone is aware of everything, why should being a "****" be negative? If no one wants to be in a relationship, why is is bad? Easy. For the vast majority of the time, that isn't how it happens.
#93 zombie_babies Apr 21, 2011 10:41:57	If your SO is being a "mommy or a daddy" then you and them both are doing it wrong. ... or your mommy or daddy did it very, very wrong.