Andrew Jackson vs. House

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#1

pigknight

Jan 20, 2009 23:32:29
Who's more of a badass?

Andrew Jackson, our seventh president.

Or...

House M.D. the pill-happy doctor.
#2

dirtyfrank

Jan 20, 2009 23:34:01
Hands down it's Andrew Jackson.
#3

farmer42_dup

Jan 20, 2009 23:46:48
Hands down it's Andrew Jackson.

I'm going to second this. I mean, the man beat a would-be assassin down with the cane he needed to walk. Truly he was a man among men. Never before and never since have we put a more manly man in that position of power. TR comes close, but he didn't shrug the bullet off during his presidency. House just gets to be an ass to his patients. Untill he canes someone, he can't compete.
#4

dirtyfrank

Jan 20, 2009 23:50:35
I'm going to second this. I mean, the man beat a would-be assassin down with the cane he needed to walk. Truly he was a man among men. Never before and never since have we put a more manly man in that position of power. TR comes close, but he didn't shrug the bullet off during his presidency. House just gets to be an ass to his patients. Untill he canes someone, he can't compete.

Not to mention that when Andrew Jackson was in a dual he let the other guy shoot first before ever raising his gun to aim. Now that takes balls.

Also he took another mans wife. Also takes balls. Wait, wasn't the guy he was in the dual with the man whom he stole his wife from? Now that takes great balls.
#5

baneofelves

Jan 20, 2009 23:54:13
Andrew Jackson. Nuff said.
#6

ocarina_guy

Jan 21, 2009 0:09:44
You know someone's badass when they're on money. Is House on the five? No. /thread.
#7

Ramien

Jan 21, 2009 0:12:02
Old Hickory's zombie could smack down House, if it wanted to.
#8

toastedamphibian

Jan 21, 2009 1:01:28
Andrew Jackson. Dude was wageing war in New Orleans when the country wasn't even at war!

How many other presidents have directly defended an american city from invasion by a foreign army during peace time?

[Plus, he did so with the help of pirates.]
#9

joni-san

Jan 21, 2009 1:51:55
Voting House due to to OP saying "our seventh president". This does not apply to me, a Finn.

Had OP stated something long the line of "Andrew Jackson, the seventh president of the United States of America" I would have considered voting for Andrew Jackson.

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#10

ixien_kothar

Jan 21, 2009 7:08:16
Voting House due to to OP saying "our seventh president". This does not apply to me, a Finn.

Had OP stated something long the line of "Andrew Jackson, the seventh president of the United States of America" I would have considered voting for Andrew Jackson.

Voting House for similar reasons. Imma Canuck and I don't have a 7th president, or even a first one, so that disqualifies ol' What's His Cane.

Oh, and dirtyfrank, if you ever get married (or if you already are) then I will dual you to the death for your wife and see if you like it.

Serisouly, what kind of reason is that to like someone?
#11

knights_disciple

Jan 21, 2009 7:30:28
I don't think he ever dueled his wife's former husband. But I could be wrong.
Seriously, though. He let himself get shot, just so he had a better chance of hitting his opponent.
While not a perfect person by any means, he's still hardcore.
Sorry House, but you just don't compete.
#12

Cpt_Micha

Jan 21, 2009 7:41:21
Andrew Jackson hands down.
#13

m-bark

Jan 21, 2009 7:55:31
Its kind of hard to choose between too non-badasses which is the more badass.

Besides, in both cases it was a leg that was bad, not the ass.
#14

batshido

Jan 21, 2009 7:56:00
TR comes close, but he didn't shrug the bullet off during his presidency.

I don't know, man. Anyone whose wikipedia entry reads like a Chuck Norris absurdity generator needs some serious props.

As a young Sunday school teacher at Christ Church, Roosevelt was once reprimanded for rewarding a young man $1 who showed up to his class with a black eye for fighting a bully. The bully had supposedly pinched his sister and the young man was standing up for her. Roosevelt thought this to be honorable, however the church deemed it too flagrant of support of fighting.

As a deputy sheriff, Roosevelt hunted down three outlaws who stole his river boat and were escaping north with it up the Little Missouri. Capturing them, he decided against hanging them (apparently yielding to established law procedures in place of vigilante justice), and sending his foreman back by boat, he took the thieves back overland for trial in Dickinson, guarding them forty hours without sleep and reading Tolstoy to keep himself awake. When he ran out of his own books, he read a dime store western that one of the thieves was carrying."[27] While working on a tough project aimed at hunting down a group of relentless horse thieves, Roosevelt came across the famous Deadwood Sheriff, Seth Bullock. The two would remain friends for life.

Roosevelt risked outrage (and perhaps physical harm) while speaking to a heavily-armed crowd in Butte, Montana during his 1903 Western tour: “I fought beside colored troops at Santiago [Cuba], and I hold that if a man is good enough to be put up and shot at then he is good enough for me to do what I can to get him a square deal.”

Out of all the Rough Riders, Roosevelt was the only one with a horse, and used it to ride back and forth between rifle pits at the forefront of the advance up Kettle Hill; an advance which he urged in absence of any orders from superiors. However, he was forced to walk up the last part of Kettle Hill on foot, due to barbed wire entanglement and after his horse, Little Texas, became tired.

And the kicker:

While Roosevelt was campaigning in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on October 14, 1912, a saloonkeeper named John Schrank shot him, but the bullet lodged in his chest only after penetrating both his steel eyeglass case and passing through a thick (50 pages) single-folded copy of the speech he was carrying in his jacket. Roosevelt, as an experienced hunter and anatomist, correctly concluded that since he wasn't coughing blood the bullet had not completely penetrated the chest wall to his lung, and so declined suggestions he go to the hospital immediately. Instead, he delivered his scheduled speech with blood seeping into his shirt. He spoke for ninety minutes. His opening comments to the gathered crowd were, "Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose."

And this is without anything he actually did while in office.
#15

m-bark

Jan 21, 2009 8:02:32


And this is without anything he actually did while in office.

See? Now that is a man that could get my vote.

Twice.
#16

Cpt_Micha

Jan 21, 2009 8:03:36
See now if I knew Teddy was going to be brought into this I'd cast my decision to him.

He, Jackson and Washington are the three most bad ass Presidents ever.

TR is one of my personal Heroes.

He could kick the Prep timed Batman's ass. Anytime.
#17

dirtyfrank

Jan 21, 2009 8:49:13
Andrew Jackson is the only US President that got rid of the national debt. Not quite badass but really only someone that is badass can get done.
#18

boj0

Jan 21, 2009 8:51:24
Wait...
Gentlemen, we are missing a VERY big detail: House looks like Gordan Freeman.
#19

dirtyfrank

Jan 21, 2009 8:54:58
House's only good quality is that he is an ass. Andrew Jackson was much, much more.
#20

batshido

Jan 21, 2009 9:00:47
Andrew Jackson is the only US President that got rid of the national debt. Not quite badass but really only someone that is badass can get done.

Through means that lead to a depression that balloned the national debt by almost 10 times in the years immediately following his presidency.

He was a horrible President. He was a war hero and has some funny period stories about his exploits, but holding power he was a complete tool.

Spoils system? Really?
#21

Johnathan_Vagabond

Jan 21, 2009 9:02:01
Maybe I'm cracking up about my history lessons. Didn't Andrew Jackson also invade Florida, then in the hands of Spain, and the then President 'asked if we could keep it'.

He was kind of a dick, but so is House.

I vote for Teddy Roosevelt, because if anyone is badass to show up on a voting ballot uninvited, it would be Teddy Roosevelt.
#22

dirtyfrank

Jan 21, 2009 9:07:42
Through means that lead to a depression that balloned the national debt by almost 10 times in the years immediately following his presidency.

He was a horrible President. He was a war hero and has some funny period stories about his exploits, but holding power he was a complete tool.

Spoils system? Really?

I think that many things that Andrew Jackson did are funny as hell. I also find it funny that no president, now a days, would even dare to do half of the stuff that he did. The man had balls.
#23

batshido

Jan 21, 2009 9:11:06
Maybe I'm cracking up about my history lessons. Didn't Andrew Jackson also invade Florida, then in the hands of Spain, and the then President 'asked if we could keep it'.

Kind of. He got purposely ambiguous orders to deal with the "Florida problem," picked a fight with the Seminoles which led to the execution of some Brits that were advising them and then Sec of State Adams wrote Spain telling them it was time to declare war or leave the continent.
#24

batshido

Jan 21, 2009 9:12:28
The man had balls.

Unfortunately they weren't complimented by any brains.
#25

boj0

Jan 21, 2009 9:15:41
House (and Gordan Freeman) both have brains.
#26

dirtyfrank

Jan 21, 2009 9:17:30
House only uses his brains to be the best ass that he can be, so in a way he has no brains.
#27

boj0

Jan 21, 2009 9:22:11
ass-brains?
#28

lofgren

Jan 21, 2009 9:24:35
See? Now that is a man that could get my vote.

Twice.

How about five times?

Of course, TR had time to examine the wound. Werner Herzog didn't even bother.

"He just carried on with the interview while bleeding quietly in his boxer shorts."

Herzog insisted, "It was not a significant bullet. I am not afraid."

#29

zombie_babies

Jan 21, 2009 10:31:51
Didn't Jackson stand - bleeding - while the seconds had to confer about what to do after his gun misfired? I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the blood filled his boot before he was able to take his shot. In any event, it was a badass thing to do. And his opponent had some brass ones, too. Don't forget, he had to stand there while Jackson took careful aim - knowing the whole time what that would mean for him. Tough stuff.

Anyway, I vote Jackson. He was tough. House isn't even a real person. ;)

TR, though, was the man.
#30

ADHadh

Jan 21, 2009 11:03:10
I vote lupus.
#31

balcinok

Jan 21, 2009 11:31:33
It's never lupus.
#32

joni-san

Jan 21, 2009 11:54:19
#33

toastedamphibian

Jan 21, 2009 16:23:17
PIRATES! He killed british redcoats with pirates and indians at the same time! Thats gotta count for something!

I'm ashamed at you people. I figured if anyone would give creedence to the pirate angle, it would be these boards.
#34

pigknight

Jan 21, 2009 17:23:58
Since Andrew Jackson is winning by a lot new opponent: George Washington.
#35

Ramien

Jan 21, 2009 18:42:35
Since Andrew Jackson is winning by a lot new opponent: George Washington.

Jackson's still more badass. He was mouthing off to British generals and getting sabred for it back in those days too. He also was a pretty good military leader when given the chance. his main failings as President came as much from the times as anything else - he certainly didn't create the spoils system, just used it like the other presidents before/after him.

Really, the only American president in my opinion with a chance to beat Jackson would be Theodore Roosevelt. There are plenty of other world leaders or historical figures that could beat him, though. It'd probably be a good idea to limit the time we're drawing figures from to about 1750 and later, though.
#36

lofgren

Jan 21, 2009 23:41:49
Jackson's still more badass. He was mouthing off to British generals and getting sabred for it back in those days too. He also was a pretty good military leader when given the chance.

Jackson more badass? …Perhaps. But if this were the comic books, Washington would be Batman, and Jackson would be Deadpool.

It is an impossible decision in my opinion.

(Roosevelt would be Wolverine – kind of cool, actually, but way over saturated.)
#37

m-bark

Jan 22, 2009 6:34:46
Jackson more badass? …Perhaps. But if this were the comic books, Washington would be Batman, and Jackson would be Deadpool.

It is an impossible decision in my opinion.

(Roosevelt would be Wolverine – kind of cool, actually, but way over saturated.)

Well done on not making any Superman, because that comparison would put them down on the badassery.