Gay.
Nah...
Me and the wife are both bi...
Pics for proof please.
No pics...
And even if I had any, the wife would quickly veto that... violently, if I know her... and I do....
Dat dere ain't nuffin' more proppa den da sound of lots an' lots of dakka. Cept maybe EVEN MORE DAKKA!
Edit: Damn him, he beat ME by 10 seconds!
Me thinks I may like it!
It's Warhammer 40K, if I'm not mistaken.
Ahhh...
Tactical combat in a fantasy-future?
I prefer strategic or operational level wargames...
I fired off an Uzi once. That was great fun! :D
I only wish I had the chance to fire off a Tommy gun. That would be about the coolest thing, except maybe for a coaxial minigun.
I'd rather fire off REAL machineguns, or submachineguns.
Been there, done that.
And yes.
It is very much fun!
Especially when the tracers get stuck in plywood targets and sets the whole thing on fire!
Very good at night Oh! Plus tracers!
I miss the Army... sometimes...
Anybody ever handle a MG and love the sound of the bolt sliding back and forth, cycling 7.62mm ...
or even better, .50cal?
Back on topic...
Anybody ever handle a MG and love the sound of the bolt sliding back and forth, cycling 7.62mm ...
or even better, .50cal?
The 50 is fun, but an MG42 is better.
NOTE: if you can get to Vegas you still fire full auto at the shooting ranges near the strip.
but lets take it I step beyond. The real fun is the m-79 bloop tube (you new kids know its cousin the m203 - its the big thing under your m16).
Just to hear that "bloop" and watching it arc through the air before it goes "boom!" (hell, even launching smoke was fun with that thing)
Back on topic...
Anybody ever handle a MG and love the sound of the bolt sliding back and forth, cycling 7.62mm ...
or even better, .50cal?
The 50 is fun, but an MG42 is better.
NOTE: if you can get to Vegas you still fire full auto at the shooting ranges near the strip.
but lets take it I step beyond. The real fun is the m-40 bloop tube (you new kids know its cousin the m203 - its the big thing under your m16).
Just to hear that "bloop" and watching it arc through the air before it goes "boom!" (hell, even launching smoke was fun with that thing)
Yah!
I fired the 203..
and it is pretty fun.
But I'm old, and haven't played with the toys you yougsters have!
I'd rather fire off REAL machineguns, or submachineguns.
I fired off an Uzi once. That was great fun! :D
I only wish I had the chance to fire off a Tommy gun. That would be about the coolest thing, except maybe for a coaxial minigun.
if you are in Vegas, head over to the Las vegas gun range (just south west of the airport), they have that, as well as the SAW (cousin to the coax in the Bradley), but they did not have a minigun when i was there (and at 6000 rounds a minute, I want to be able to shoot for more than 2 seconds)
The only thing I ever shot in 50 cal was an antique buffalo rifle...
Once there was a guy with a Magnum on the range. He shot all six one right after another. It was a small room and I forgot to put ear protection on...
Back on topic...
Anybody ever handle a MG and love the sound of the bolt sliding back and forth, cycling 7.62mm ...
or even better, .50cal?
M249 SAW is ok but kind of meh, M240 and M2 are both nice, but my personal favorite is the Mk 48. That baby can sing!
Of course then there's the Mk 19 and Mk 47 (now that one is badass) but thats getting out of machine gun territory at that point.
One day I think I'd like to check out the shoots at Knob Creek. Not only do they do day and night full auto, the place is also home to one of the better bourbons out there. I mean, I wouldn't combine the two, but havin' both in one place is kinda cool.
I prefer the M249 over the 240B, and the .50 Cal is a nice weapon to fire but not maintain. It's actually a pain in the butt to take care of. I'm in the Army now, and I've been doing a lot of training as of lately.
Yeah, but nothing tears **** up like Ma Deuce!
Unless you go with guns such as the GAU-8 that is normally equipped on an A-10 Thunderbolt II.
Yeah...
20mm and 30mm cannons are rarely carried by ground troops...
But yeah, they tear **** up pretty good...
Unless you go with guns such as the GAU-8 that is normally equipped on an A-10 Thunderbolt II.
Yeah...
20mm and 30mm cannons are rarely carried by ground troops...
But yeah, they tear **** up pretty good...
Pro'lly 'cause their heavy...
And the recoil that probably makes it impossible to handle.
The GAU-8, the gun specifically listed, is ~20 ft long and weighs ~620 lbs. You don't need to shoot it to make it "Impossible to handle" on foot.
And people buying weapons like in Z_B's video are compensating for something, methinks.
Impossible is a big word.
It was your word.
And the recoil that probably makes it impossible to handle.
Well, the story goes the gun has so much recoil that it out-thrusts the A-10s engines. Hold the trigger down too long and the plane would start to fly backwards.
And the recoil that probably makes it impossible to handle.
Well, the story goes the gun has so much recoil that it out-thrusts the A-10s engines. Hold the trigger down too long and the plane would start to fly backwards.
I don't believe that.
Do you know how much thrust the A-10s engines have to produce to move the heavily armored plane?
A lot more than the recoil of the gun I'm sure...
And people buying weapons like in Z_B's video are compensating for something, methinks.
No they aren't.
Ah, don't be like that, RH. Of course they're compensating for something. Specifically, they're compensating for a large weapons deficiency. Most people have this deficiency, it's really quite common.
EE, are you saying that all people who like to shoot big guns have small....er, packages?
Or
Are you being serious in that they didn't have a large caliber weapon in their inventory?
Cuz I can agree with one, but not the other.
And people buying weapons like in Z_B's video are compensating for something, methinks.
Or they just like odd guns. I mean, why does everything other people don't 'get' have to have some negative connotation. You don't understand it. Instead of looking for a way to make yourself better than the people you don't understand, why not just accept your inability and move on?
I'm not a huge fan of art, really. That doesn't mean, to me, that guys that are are too in touch with their feminine side or some other snide 'explanation'. I just don't get why they are and that's fine with me. I also don't understand the appeal of rap music. It doesn't mean that the white guys like me that do like rap are trying to be black, it just means I don't get it. I mean, ****. This world would be a better place if people could just accept that others don't think the same way they do. For shame.
I don't believe that.
Do you know how much thrust the A-10s engines have to produce to move the heavily armored plane?
A lot more than the recoil of the gun I'm sure...
While I don't believe the gun could make the plane go backwards, I do know that firing it does slow the plane down. You can actually see it happen. What a great gun.
Fun notes from Wiki:
The recoil force of the GAU-8/A[14] is 10,000 pounds-force (45 kN), which is slightly more than the output of one of the A-10's two TF34 engines (9,065 lbf / 40.3 kN each). While this recoil force is significant, in practice cannon fire only slows the aircraft a few miles per hour.
I am being quite literal. It seems patently obvious that before I acquire a particular item, that I have a deficiency of that particular item, even if I already possess similar ones.
RH, would I ever make a disparaging comment about the... ahem... "package"... of a man I don't know?
I am being quite literal. It seems patently obvious that before I acquire a particular item, that I have a deficiency of that particular item, even if I already possess similar ones.
LOL
That's what I thought you meant...
;)
And people buying weapons like in Z_B's video are compensating for something, methinks.
Or they just like odd guns. I mean, why does everything other people don't 'get' have to have some negative connotation. You don't understand it. Instead of looking for a way to make yourself better than the people you don't understand, why not just accept your inability and move on?
I'm not a huge fan of art, really. That doesn't mean, to me, that guys that are are too in touch with their feminine side or some other snide 'explanation'. I just don't get why they are and that's fine with me. I also don't understand the appeal of rap music. It doesn't mean that the white guys like me that do like rap are trying to be black, it just means I don't get it. I mean, ****. This world would be a better place if people could just accept that others don't think the same way they do. For shame.
But saying they are compensating for something is funnier. I really could care less about those people, but when I see someone carrying around an utterly useless piece of hardware whose only purpose is blowing larger pointless holes in pointless targets then other pointless pieces of hardware, it makes me wonder.
Then again; maybe some people just like to destroy things. I hear that's quite common.
And people buying weapons like in Z_B's video are compensating for something, methinks.
Or they just like odd guns. I mean, why does everything other people don't 'get' have to have some negative connotation. You don't understand it. Instead of looking for a way to make yourself better than the people you don't understand, why not just accept your inability and move on?
I'm not a huge fan of art, really. That doesn't mean, to me, that guys that are are too in touch with their feminine side or some other snide 'explanation'. I just don't get why they are and that's fine with me. I also don't understand the appeal of rap music. It doesn't mean that the white guys like me that do like rap are trying to be black, it just means I don't get it. I mean, ****. This world would be a better place if people could just accept that others don't think the same way they do. For shame.
But saying they are compensating for something is funnier. I really could care less about those people, but when I see someone carrying around an utterly useless piece of hardware whose only purpose is blowing larger pointless holes in pointless targets then other pointless pieces of hardware, it makes me wonder.
Then again; maybe some people just like to destroy things. I hear that's quite common.
It's not utterly useless.
These weapons are used in war as well as for fun.
And some people like to protect what is theirs and defend themselves with those "utterly useless piece of hardware".
... if you're protecting your house with an anti-tank gun, I think someone is doing something wrong.
LOL
Yeah...
But they are cool, and a blast to shoot! (pun intended)
One can not rule out the possibility of heavy armor knocking on your domicile. Some deranged humans manage to procure armored vehicles and wreck havoc with them. Not that I would want a cannon of such caliber for that specific purpose.
The odds of that happening in the U.S. is very, very slim. LOL
... if you're protecting your house with an anti-tank gun, I think someone is doing something wrong.
This. I can bring up a modicum of understanding for people carrying a handgun, or something like that. But if you have an anti-tank rifle in your possession, it is not because you intend to defend anything with it. No way is that ever going to work out.
Also, obviously in a theater of war the rules are different, but lets not get into that.
The odds of that happening in the U.S. is very, very slim. LOL
It isn't unheard of however; do you remember Marvin Heemeyer?
While it is understandable that it such weapons are unnecessary for domestic defence, there is nothing wrong with being stimulated by the power such machinery exerts.
But saying they are compensating for something is funnier. I really could care less about those people, but when I see someone carrying around an utterly useless piece of hardware whose only purpose is blowing larger pointless holes in pointless targets then other pointless pieces of hardware, it makes me wonder.
Then again; maybe some people just like to destroy things. I hear that's quite common.
I'll give ya funnier. ;)
But when I see you use 'pointless', it tells me you just don't get it. And that, of course, is fine - so long as you understand that. What's the point of drawing a pretty picture? Hell, there's even less 'point' to looking at one somebody else drew. Well, it's pointless to me, maybe. That doesn't, however, make me right. So yeah, what I wonder about this whole deal is why people feel the need to lower others for doing something they don't understand.
And people buying weapons like in Z_B's video are compensating for something, methinks.
No they aren't.
You need irrefutable proof? I do not like weapons and I am not impotent or have a small penis.
Multiple choice answer!
Door Number Blue
Pics or it didn't happen.
Than again in Soviet Russia guns shoot you!
But saying they are compensating for something is funnier. I really could care less about those people, but when I see someone carrying around an utterly useless piece of hardware whose only purpose is blowing larger pointless holes in pointless targets then other pointless pieces of hardware, it makes me wonder.
Then again; maybe some people just like to destroy things. I hear that's quite common.
I'll give ya funnier. ;)
But when I see you use 'pointless', it tells me you just don't get it. And that, of course, is fine - so long as you understand that. What's the point of drawing a pretty picture? Hell, there's even less 'point' to looking at one somebody else drew. Well, it's pointless to me, maybe. That doesn't, however, make me right. So yeah, what I wonder about this whole deal is why people feel the need to lower others for doing something they don't understand.
I know, the kick comes from destroying things. It makes you happy that things are being destroyed. That, to me, is pointless. A painting (while boring and not something I spend a lot of time looking at) at least involves creating something. Whether an idea, or something to make you think, or just feel better, or dream away on, is a creation.
Firing a gun is just a means to destroy things. Unless you are trying to create art by shooting holes in things (which, though arguably possible, isn't usually the point) and trying to make people experience something, you are just destroying things for you own pleasure.
To me, that's pointless. Maybe I "don't understand", but needless destruction just isn't something I think should be considered a good thing.
I know, the kick comes from destroying things. It makes you happy that things are being destroyed. That, to me, is pointless. A painting (while boring and not something I spend a lot of time looking at) at least involves creating something. Whether an idea, or something to make you think, or just feel better, or dream away on, is a creation.
Firing a gun is just a means to destroy things. Unless you are trying to create art by shooting holes in things (which, though arguably possible, isn't usually the point) and trying to make people experience something, you are just destroying things for you own pleasure.
To me, that's pointless. Maybe I "don't understand", but needless destruction just isn't something I think should be considered a good thing.
Yeah... he doesn't get it.
"Those that beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who didn't"
I know most Americans are great fans of all three though. That´s a pretty big issue.
I wouldn't categorize competitive shooting in any three of those.
That's more like shooting not to destroy, but to shoot (not necessarily something, if you're an amateur). A sport shooter doesn't use a Gatling gun or a rocket launcher after all. So naturally it doesn't fall into any of those categories.
And RH, this isn't a thread about need for an army or any other political crap. This is about shooting stuff for fun. There's a difference.
I just happen to think that people that think that are stoopid.
*shrug*
Some a-hole thinks shooting big guns is stoopid... I get it.
I just happen to think that people that think that are stoopid.
*shrug*
It's not "some a-hole" but a fellow poster. And you've missed his point entirely. He meant that destruction for the sake of destruction is pointless to him. And am I wrong or is this how D&D defined Chaotic Evil usually?
To me, that's pointless. Maybe I "don't understand", but needless destruction just isn't something I think should be considered a good thing.
I'm confused. Here you admit that you might not understand, but earlier in the same post you sure acted like you understood well enough to say just what the allure was. Perhaps if you don't understand, you are, in fact, wrong about what the "kick" is from?
Like: It is a glorious thing to die for your country.
Perhaps not... perhaps.
But it is a glorious thing to die for what you believe in.
"Those that beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who didn't"
But who uses a plowshare today anyway? I know it is a metaphore, but the would be oppressors of today won't use swords, they will use propaganda, insidious one, to control its population. Like: It is a glorious thing to die for your country.
Like: It is a glorious thing to die for your country.
Perhaps not... perhaps.
But it is a glorious thing to die for what you believe in.
I think Gen Patton said it best when he said it's better to live and make the other poor, dumb SOB die for what he believes.
"Those that beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who didn't"
But who uses a plowshare today anyway? I know it is a metaphore, but the would be oppressors of today won't use swords, they will use propaganda, insidious one, to control its population. Like: It is a glorious thing to die for your country.Like: It is a glorious thing to die for your country.
Perhaps not... perhaps.
But it is a glorious thing to die for what you believe in.
I think Gen Patton said it best when he said it's better to live and make the other poor, dumb SOB die for what he believes.
AH...
Yes, that is best.
To me, that's pointless. Maybe I "don't understand", but needless destruction just isn't something I think should be considered a good thing.
I'm confused. Here you admit that you might not understand, but earlier in the same post you sure acted like you understood well enough to say just what the allure was. Perhaps if you don't understand, you are, in fact, wrong about what the "kick" is from?
It is my belief that anything I believe might be wrong. So who knows. But for the time being, lacking arguments to the contrary, I shall continue to believe that destruction for the purpose of destruction is pointless, and that that's where I think the thrill from firing something larger then a regular rifle comes from.
Feel free to tell me it's something else, but unless you can explain why the difference between a pistol and an anti-tank rifle isn't in the amount of stuff it destroys, or the range that it destroys stuff at, I'll continue to label it pointless destruction
But it is a glorious thing to die for what you believe in.
That's just what they want you to think
Real charitable of you.
AH...
Yes, that is best.
No, no, what is best is "to crush your enemies, and hear the lamentations of their women".
very good Conan
Not bad, but he forgot the "to see them driven before you" part that goes in the middle.
very good Conan
Not bad, but he forgot the "to see them driven before you" part that goes in the middle.
He got the main points, A for effort.
So yes. You have decided what is is that gives joy to other people, and then decided to condemn them for your decision, all without actually checking if your initial conclusion was right at all.
Real charitable of you.
1) I am not really a nice person, especially not to people I don't know and still already dislike
2) If someone were to tell me the other thing their enjoyment derives from, I'd gladly change my opinion. I don't mind re-evaluating my views.
I know, the kick comes from destroying things. It makes you happy that things are being destroyed. That, to me, is pointless. A painting (while boring and not something I spend a lot of time looking at) at least involves creating something. Whether an idea, or something to make you think, or just feel better, or dream away on, is a creation.
Firing a gun is just a means to destroy things. Unless you are trying to create art by shooting holes in things (which, though arguably possible, isn't usually the point) and trying to make people experience something, you are just destroying things for you own pleasure.
To me, that's pointless. Maybe I "don't understand", but needless destruction just isn't something I think should be considered a good thing.
Umm, not really. I'm sure some people get a kick out of destroying things. Many, though, get their kick from other aspects of target shooting. Consider this: the only thing you're permitted to destroy at most shooting ranges is paper. Yep, you get to punch holes in paper. Now I've done that quite a bit in my day and I can tell you that you certainly don't feel like you're destroying anything. The kick, then, comes from somewhere else. Competing against your pals or yourself. Learning the weapon well enough to make it do what you want it to. You know, martial arts type stuff. Of course there's more, too.
Firing a weapon of such large caliber is, to some, a reward in itself. Especially if you don't actually own one, it's a thrill to do something that will likely amount to a once in a lifetime experience. I drive to work every day, for example, but would still be damned thrilled by the prospect of driving a Ferrari around a track. So there's the allure of the rare. You've also got people that simply like guns. They collect them and, therefore, different types and different calibers are par for the course. It's expanding your experience through your collection. Personally I find firearms incredibly interesting and have a small collection that features weapons I use (hunting, defense) and some I just don't. One I haven't shot in years and am unlikely to again any time soon. All of them, though, satisfy me just by sitting in my safe. I don't need to blow stuff up - though I have. That's not what they're for. I have them because I like them and because I need them. I'm also very particular about what I buy. If 'destroying stuff' was the point, I'd just buy whatever cheap ass gun I could find that had a big muzzle. But it isn't and I don't. Anyhoo, there's all sorts of reasons to own and fire guns.
Thanks. Still not things that I really care for, but they do sound a lot better then just wanting to blow stuff up. Lots of people want to collect stuff and/or own expensive things. I somewhat understand why (even though I don't care much for it) and I guess you can look at guns like that.
Oh, and driving a Ferrari around a track is possible... I don't think it's even that expensive. I can find companies here (so yeah, not very useful for you, but hey) that let you drive a Ferrari around a track or city for about 150e per hour. If you're looking for that once in a lifetime thrill, you can probably find one in your area that does the same?
very good Conan
Not bad, but he forgot the "to see them driven before you" part that goes in the middle.
He got the main points, A for effort.
Oh, right, that bit. Whoops.
So, a question, what's everyone's favorite on-screen gratuitous expenditure of ammunition (if any)? I think Arnold is responsible for several of those.
Cool, actual reasons Thanks.
No problem.
I find that you're quite reasonable so being rasonable myself is usually the best course. Still not things that I really care for, but they do sound a lot better then just wanting to blow stuff up. Lots of people want to collect stuff and/or own expensive things. I somewhat understand why (even though I don't care much for it) and I guess you can look at guns like that.
Fair 'nuff.
Oh, and driving a Ferrari around a track is possible... I don't think it's even that expensive. I can find companies here (so yeah, not very useful for you, but hey) that let you drive a Ferrari around a track or city for about 150e per hour. If you're looking for that once in a lifetime thrill, you can probably find one in your area that does the same?
Yeah, I know it can be done but haven't looked into it around here. That and I can't justify the expenditure at this point (savin' for a honeymoon trip thing). Though if it were for a gun ... ;)
So, a question, what's everyone's favorite on-screen gratuitous expenditure of ammunition (if any)? I think Arnold is responsible for several of those.
Oh that's easy: The Expendables. They even bust out an AA12.
AH...
Yes, that is best.
No, no, what is best is "to crush your enemies, and hear the lamentations of their women".
Bollocks. Try that without hot water, shtrong teeth and shoft lavatory paper!
Yeah, I know it can be done but haven't looked into it around here. That and I can't justify the expenditure at this point (savin' for a honeymoon trip thing).
A Ferrari has 2 seats. I'm assuming you have one partner. I see no reason not to make it a part of your honeymoon
Oh, right, that bit. Whoops.
So, a question, what's everyone's favorite on-screen gratuitous expenditure of ammunition (if any)? I think Arnold is responsible for several of those.
Charlie Sheen in Hot Shots: Part Deux.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a0L3Z1A-RM
One can not rule out the possibility of heavy armor knocking on your domicile. Some deranged humans manage to procure armored vehicles and wreck havoc with them. Not that I would want a cannon of such caliber for that specific purpose.
The odds of that happening in the U.S. is very, very slim. LOL
...
That has happened in the U.S. Perhapes the odds of it happening again in the U.S. is slim, but the odds of it happening in the U.S. is 1:1 .
More importantly: when you 'aquire' armored vehicles, they typically lack either funtioning weaponry or ammunition. Quickly riviting your anti-tank rifle to your stolen 'aquiered' tank and having your buddy shoot it for you seems a very promising alternative to somehow convicing a trained tank crew to assist you, and procuring proper ammunition in significant quantities.
Oh, right, that bit. Whoops.
So, a question, what's everyone's favorite on-screen gratuitous expenditure of ammunition (if any)? I think Arnold is responsible for several of those.
Charlie Sheen in Hot Shots: Part Deux.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a0L3Z1A-RM
I was thinking about the exact same scene when I read that xD