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Apple OS can only be used on Apple computers.

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#1
homicidal_squirrel
Sep 30, 2011 21:46:53 blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/09/...

#2
pluisjen
Oct 01, 2011 5:16:02 I wonder about the consequences of a choice like this.
#3
homicidal_squirrel
Oct 01, 2011 18:52:14
I wonder about the consequences of a choice like this.

Probably not something good.
#4
homicidal_squirrel
Oct 01, 2011 21:06:39
Could they argue this creates a monopoly?

The full decision is in there. I think part of it was something about how other companioes can develope other operating systems. Although I wonder what this will do to fair use. These guys were buying legal copies of Apple OS. Are you not allow to do hwhat you want with a produst you purchased?
#5
calronmoonflower
Oct 02, 2011 22:54:47
Could they argue this creates a monopoly?

They can argue anything they like even if it makes no sense.

Basically this should shrink the base of people that can use the OS and as such lower sells.
#6
pluisjen
Oct 03, 2011 0:42:03
Basically this should shrink the base of people that can use the OS and as such lower sells.

Or increase the sales of apple computers. Which is probably what Apple is expecting to happen, or they wouldn't have made a fuss.

Anyway, not having the freedom to do what you want with software is nothing new. Most software purchases give you a license to use, not actual ownership of the software. It's a precaution against people hacking or modifying the software, because that'd be allowed if you "could do what you want" with something you purchased.
#7
homicidal_squirrel
Oct 03, 2011 8:29:17
Basically this should shrink the base of people that can use the OS and as such lower sells.

Or increase the sales of apple computers. Which is probably what Apple is expecting to happen, or they wouldn't have made a fuss.

Anyway, not having the freedom to do what you want with software is nothing new. Most software purchases give you a license to use, not actual ownership of the software. It's a precaution against people hacking or modifying the software, because that'd be allowed if you "could do what you want" with something you purchased.

Yeah, but these guys weren't hacking it. They were installing the OS in PCs they made. When you buy Windows OS, you can install it in any PC you own. You can even build your own PC and install it in that one.
#8
pluisjen
Oct 03, 2011 8:34:35 I was using it as an example of "no, you cannot do whatever you want with the software you purchase".

Generally, you're not buying the software. You're licensing it. And a license comes with terms. And apparently "install it on our stuff only" is now one of the terms. Along with "don't hack it", "don't copy it" and whatever else is in the license.
#9
jetshield
Oct 03, 2011 11:16:04

Yeah, but these guys weren't hacking it. They were installing the OS in PCs they made. When you buy Windows OS, you can install it in any PC you own. You can even build your own PC and install it in that one.

OS X won't install or run on a PC without a "patch" (or "hack" if you prefer) that modifies the kernel. That makes it a blatant violation of Apple's EULA, and may be a violation of the DMCA.

Either way, it was a stupid idea to begin with. It may sound great, but running OS X on a PC is an exercise in patches, hacks, and workarounds to make the software run properly with anything but a very limited selection of hardware. Combine that with the simple fact that OS X is basically Apple's modified (and highly proprietary) version of Linux, and you'd be far better off installing one of the hundreds of Linux distros that are available, most of them free.
#10
homicidal_squirrel
Oct 03, 2011 11:25:28

Yeah, but these guys weren't hacking it. They were installing the OS in PCs they made. When you buy Windows OS, you can install it in any PC you own. You can even build your own PC and install it in that one.

OS X won't install or run on a PC without a "patch" (or "hack" if you prefer) that modifies the kernel. That makes it a blatant violation of Apple's EULA, and may be a violation of the DMCA.

Either way, it was a stupid idea to begin with. It may sound great, but running OS X on a PC is an exercise in patches, hacks, and workarounds to make the software run properly with anything but a very limited selection of hardware. Combine that with the simple fact that OS X is basically Apple's modified (and highly proprietary) version of Linux, and you'd be far better off installing one of the hundreds of Linux distros that are available, most of them free.

You are correct, it is a violation of the DMCA, or so says wikipedia.
#11
damixmastermike
Oct 03, 2011 12:05:32 In all my years of working in I.T. at the University I only once saw the apple OS on the PC laptop.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 homicidal_squirrel Sep 30, 2011 21:46:53	blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/09/...
#2 pluisjen Oct 01, 2011 5:16:02	I wonder about the consequences of a choice like this.
#3 homicidal_squirrel Oct 01, 2011 18:52:14	I wonder about the consequences of a choice like this. Probably not something good.
#4 homicidal_squirrel Oct 01, 2011 21:06:39	Could they argue this creates a monopoly? The full decision is in there. I think part of it was something about how other companioes can develope other operating systems. Although I wonder what this will do to fair use. These guys were buying legal copies of Apple OS. Are you not allow to do hwhat you want with a produst you purchased?
#5 calronmoonflower Oct 02, 2011 22:54:47	Could they argue this creates a monopoly? They can argue anything they like even if it makes no sense. Basically this should shrink the base of people that can use the OS and as such lower sells.
#6 pluisjen Oct 03, 2011 0:42:03	Basically this should shrink the base of people that can use the OS and as such lower sells. Or increase the sales of apple computers. Which is probably what Apple is expecting to happen, or they wouldn't have made a fuss. Anyway, not having the freedom to do what you want with software is nothing new. Most software purchases give you a license to use, not actual ownership of the software. It's a precaution against people hacking or modifying the software, because that'd be allowed if you "could do what you want" with something you purchased.
#7 homicidal_squirrel Oct 03, 2011 8:29:17	Basically this should shrink the base of people that can use the OS and as such lower sells. Or increase the sales of apple computers. Which is probably what Apple is expecting to happen, or they wouldn't have made a fuss. Anyway, not having the freedom to do what you want with software is nothing new. Most software purchases give you a license to use, not actual ownership of the software. It's a precaution against people hacking or modifying the software, because that'd be allowed if you "could do what you want" with something you purchased. Yeah, but these guys weren't hacking it. They were installing the OS in PCs they made. When you buy Windows OS, you can install it in any PC you own. You can even build your own PC and install it in that one.
#8 pluisjen Oct 03, 2011 8:34:35	I was using it as an example of "no, you cannot do whatever you want with the software you purchase". Generally, you're not buying the software. You're licensing it. And a license comes with terms. And apparently "install it on our stuff only" is now one of the terms. Along with "don't hack it", "don't copy it" and whatever else is in the license.
#9 jetshield Oct 03, 2011 11:16:04	Yeah, but these guys weren't hacking it. They were installing the OS in PCs they made. When you buy Windows OS, you can install it in any PC you own. You can even build your own PC and install it in that one. OS X won't install or run on a PC without a "patch" (or "hack" if you prefer) that modifies the kernel. That makes it a blatant violation of Apple's EULA, and may be a violation of the DMCA. Either way, it was a stupid idea to begin with. It may sound great, but running OS X on a PC is an exercise in patches, hacks, and workarounds to make the software run properly with anything but a very limited selection of hardware. Combine that with the simple fact that OS X is basically Apple's modified (and highly proprietary) version of Linux, and you'd be far better off installing one of the hundreds of Linux distros that are available, most of them free.
#10 homicidal_squirrel Oct 03, 2011 11:25:28	Yeah, but these guys weren't hacking it. They were installing the OS in PCs they made. When you buy Windows OS, you can install it in any PC you own. You can even build your own PC and install it in that one. OS X won't install or run on a PC without a "patch" (or "hack" if you prefer) that modifies the kernel. That makes it a blatant violation of Apple's EULA, and may be a violation of the DMCA. Either way, it was a stupid idea to begin with. It may sound great, but running OS X on a PC is an exercise in patches, hacks, and workarounds to make the software run properly with anything but a very limited selection of hardware. Combine that with the simple fact that OS X is basically Apple's modified (and highly proprietary) version of Linux, and you'd be far better off installing one of the hundreds of Linux distros that are available, most of them free. You are correct, it is a violation of the DMCA, or so says wikipedia.
#11 damixmastermike Oct 03, 2011 12:05:32	In all my years of working in I.T. at the University I only once saw the apple OS on the PC laptop.