What is the one thing you would leak to Wikileaks?
example: A document from the Director of the CIA authorizing sattelite uplinked microphones concealed in Smurf toys sold to children?
This post is talking about current events and politics, thus it is against the CoC.
NB4Lock!
No it doesnt. It questions your ethics and asks where your line between loyalty and betrayal is. Care to say?
What is the one thing you would leak to Wikileaks?
A phone number. I can't say whose because that would be baiting and trolling.
INB4LOCK!!!
I wouldn't leak anything to Wikileaks. There are legal routes to use instead.
This. A thousand times this.
That's interesting.What if your discovery is that the legal channels don't work?
There's a lot of possible channels to use. The chances of none of them working is pretty low.
I'd sure as hell do it. If something like that is going on, people have a right, or even need to know. If the corporation/government has been proven unworthy of my trust/loyalty, it doesn't get it. Simple as that.
"If something is going on". Something is always going on. What constitutes something the public needs to know? How do you know that this is an issue with the government and not a single person or small group of people in the government abusing their authority? Why would you not try to resolve it other ways first?
Corporations may or may not be different, since each one will have its own policies and procedures for employee misconduct.
What if your discovery is that the legal channels don't work?
There's a lot of possible channels to use. The chances of none of them working is pretty low.
You can always go higher up the chain.
example: A document from the Director of the CIA authorizing sattelite uplinked microphones concealed in Smurf toys sold to children?
meh, they prob have a good reason for it.
For people who have absolutely no trust in the government, you people sure do have a lot of trust in the government
I think it's like one of those "my family" things. You know your family is freaking nuts. Your mom and dad might be the biggest pains in the
, but no one else better say that. Only you can say it. For people who have absolutely no trust in the government, you people sure do have a lot of trust in the government
The government is made of people. For good or for ill. Some people are paranoid control freaks. Some people just want to get by with as little discomfort as possible. Some people try to do what they think is right. Every type of person you see in the world at large you will find in the government. And even the bad ones in high positions know they at some point have to answer public opinion.
I mean; they'd be correct right? So what's the issue?
For people who have absolutely no trust in the government, you people sure do have a lot of trust in the government
The government is made of people. For good or for ill. Some people are paranoid control freaks. Some people just want to get by with as little discomfort as possible. Some people try to do what they think is right. Every type of person you see in the world at large you will find in the government. And even the bad ones in high positions know they at some point have to answer public opinion.
This^^^
And it's not so much that I have a lot of trust in the government, I don't. However, I do believe in handling things at the lowest level possible. I also believe in handling them the right way and the legal way whenever possible. Releasing information could directly or indirectly harm a lot of people other than the individual that was actually abusing his authority. There are much better ways to handle that.
Of course, it also depends on the information. I'll bitch all day about how wasteful the government acquisition process is, about how much money gets wasted just to field a new flashlight. However, that information is unclassified and not sensitive in any way. It doesn't harm anyone to know about that. In fact, they can probably google all the information if they thought to look for it. On the other hand, classified or confidential information is a bit different. Releasing that could expose sources or endanger people in the field.
For people who have absolutely no trust in the government, you people sure do have a lot of trust in the government
what government?
:looks in closet:
:looks under bed:
:checks the basement:
no government here
Door #Snark
I just got my shiny new security clearance, I don't wanna lose it!
Trial by Media is absurdly affective.
*pause*
The Duke lacrosse team, OJ Simpson, and Casey Anthony would like to have a few words with you.
If I feel like I'd need to know it, I'd assume the general public would want to. Trial by Media is absurdly affective. And, of course, I've always wanted to be an Intrepid Reporter.
The general public wants to know a lot of things. I'm sure there are people that would like to know how to build a nuke, what secret technologies are in the works, a play by play of Iraq and Afghanistan, the names and records of everyone in black ops units, the names of intelligence contacts, and all kinds of other information, but that doesn't mean they have any need to know it and that doesn't mean that them knowing it wouldn't do more harm than good.
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
Sell it on Ebay.
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
I... dunno.
I'm still trying to figure out how one "stumbles upon" a "gov't operated stargate"...
Ah! I got it!
Get shot!
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
I... dunno.
I'm still trying to figure out how one "stumbles upon" a "gov't operated stargate"...
Ah! I got it!
Get shot!
That's why you stumbled accross it and not just found it.
Yeah, but I thought the general idea here was more of corruption/people being batshit/retarded.
True, but some things seem bad or retarded only because you don't know the entire story behind it. To someone that sees the big picture it makes perfect sense and is perfectly legal but the wrong piece of it can send someone running to Wikileaks.
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
I wouldn't say a damn thing. People as a whole are already stupid, panicky, xenophobic creatures as is, throwing aliens and other dimensions out there (especially all at once, let them get it a piece at a time) would stir up a massive **** storm.
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
I wouldn't say a damn thing. People as a whole are already stupid, panicky, xenophobic creatures as is, throwing aliens and other dimensions out there (especially all at once, let them get it a piece at a time) would stir up a massive **** storm.
Damn intergalactic alens are going to start taking our jobs!!!
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
"Ooops, wrong door... Hey, what floor am I on fellas? ... Oh, that explains it. Well, :Censored:, I must be a genius, I found a way to fat-finger an elevator panel!"
I like how I just spawned a totally different conversation.
Well, this is the OTT after all.
This post is talking about current events and politics, thus it is against the CoC.
NB4Lock!
No it doesnt. It questions your ethics and asks where your line between loyalty and betrayal is. Care to say?
What is the one thing you would leak to Wikileaks?
A phone number. I can't say whose because that would be baiting and trolling.
INB4LOCK!!!
I wouldn't leak anything to Wikileaks. There are legal routes to use instead.
This. A thousand times this.
That's interesting.What if your discovery is that the legal channels don't work?
There's a lot of possible channels to use. The chances of none of them working is pretty low.
I'd sure as hell do it. If something like that is going on, people have a right, or even need to know. If the corporation/government has been proven unworthy of my trust/loyalty, it doesn't get it. Simple as that.
"If something is going on". Something is always going on. What constitutes something the public needs to know? How do you know that this is an issue with the government and not a single person or small group of people in the government abusing their authority? Why would you not try to resolve it other ways first?
Corporations may or may not be different, since each one will have its own policies and procedures for employee misconduct.
What if your discovery is that the legal channels don't work?
There's a lot of possible channels to use. The chances of none of them working is pretty low.
You can always go higher up the chain.
example: A document from the Director of the CIA authorizing sattelite uplinked microphones concealed in Smurf toys sold to children?
meh, they prob have a good reason for it.
For people who have absolutely no trust in the government, you people sure do have a lot of trust in the government
I think it's like one of those "my family" things. You know your family is freaking nuts. Your mom and dad might be the biggest pains in the
, but no one else better say that. Only you can say it. For people who have absolutely no trust in the government, you people sure do have a lot of trust in the government
The government is made of people. For good or for ill. Some people are paranoid control freaks. Some people just want to get by with as little discomfort as possible. Some people try to do what they think is right. Every type of person you see in the world at large you will find in the government. And even the bad ones in high positions know they at some point have to answer public opinion.
I mean; they'd be correct right? So what's the issue?
For people who have absolutely no trust in the government, you people sure do have a lot of trust in the government
The government is made of people. For good or for ill. Some people are paranoid control freaks. Some people just want to get by with as little discomfort as possible. Some people try to do what they think is right. Every type of person you see in the world at large you will find in the government. And even the bad ones in high positions know they at some point have to answer public opinion.
This^^^
And it's not so much that I have a lot of trust in the government, I don't. However, I do believe in handling things at the lowest level possible. I also believe in handling them the right way and the legal way whenever possible. Releasing information could directly or indirectly harm a lot of people other than the individual that was actually abusing his authority. There are much better ways to handle that.
Of course, it also depends on the information. I'll bitch all day about how wasteful the government acquisition process is, about how much money gets wasted just to field a new flashlight. However, that information is unclassified and not sensitive in any way. It doesn't harm anyone to know about that. In fact, they can probably google all the information if they thought to look for it. On the other hand, classified or confidential information is a bit different. Releasing that could expose sources or endanger people in the field.
For people who have absolutely no trust in the government, you people sure do have a lot of trust in the government
what government?
:looks in closet:
:looks under bed:
:checks the basement:
no government here
Door #Snark
I just got my shiny new security clearance, I don't wanna lose it!
Trial by Media is absurdly affective.
*pause*
The Duke lacrosse team, OJ Simpson, and Casey Anthony would like to have a few words with you.
If I feel like I'd need to know it, I'd assume the general public would want to. Trial by Media is absurdly affective. And, of course, I've always wanted to be an Intrepid Reporter.
The general public wants to know a lot of things. I'm sure there are people that would like to know how to build a nuke, what secret technologies are in the works, a play by play of Iraq and Afghanistan, the names and records of everyone in black ops units, the names of intelligence contacts, and all kinds of other information, but that doesn't mean they have any need to know it and that doesn't mean that them knowing it wouldn't do more harm than good.
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
Sell it on Ebay.
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
I... dunno.
I'm still trying to figure out how one "stumbles upon" a "gov't operated stargate"...
Ah! I got it!
Get shot!
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
I... dunno.
I'm still trying to figure out how one "stumbles upon" a "gov't operated stargate"...
Ah! I got it!
Get shot!
That's why you stumbled accross it and not just found it.
Yeah, but I thought the general idea here was more of corruption/people being batshit/retarded.
True, but some things seem bad or retarded only because you don't know the entire story behind it. To someone that sees the big picture it makes perfect sense and is perfectly legal but the wrong piece of it can send someone running to Wikileaks.
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
I wouldn't say a damn thing. People as a whole are already stupid, panicky, xenophobic creatures as is, throwing aliens and other dimensions out there (especially all at once, let them get it a piece at a time) would stir up a massive **** storm.
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
I wouldn't say a damn thing. People as a whole are already stupid, panicky, xenophobic creatures as is, throwing aliens and other dimensions out there (especially all at once, let them get it a piece at a time) would stir up a massive **** storm.
Damn intergalactic alens are going to start taking our jobs!!!
If you stumbled across a government operated Stargate, what would you do?
"Ooops, wrong door... Hey, what floor am I on fellas? ... Oh, that explains it. Well, :Censored:, I must be a genius, I found a way to fat-finger an elevator panel!"
I like how I just spawned a totally different conversation.
Well, this is the OTT after all.