At least they didn't burn her at the stake

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#1

homicidal_squirrel

Mar 28, 2011 14:01:37
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41959553/ns/busines...

#2

ADHadh

Mar 28, 2011 14:07:04
They should weigh her first, to make sure. If she weights more than 42 oz she should be given her work back.
#3

RedSiegfried

Mar 28, 2011 14:10:29
I don't feel entirely safe around people who believe in magic either, but I wouldn't go so far as to do anything to get them fired from their job for that.  I'd probably just ridicule them if they brought up the topic.  Otherwise I'd just deal with it.

Man, I love America.
#4

homicidal_squirrel

Mar 28, 2011 14:10:52
I thought the weight test was when you weighed a witch against a duck or a goose and then tied her up and tossed her into a pond and if she floats she is a witch because you know... if she weighs more than a duck she should sink and drown... thus proving she is not a witch.
#5

RedSiegfried

Mar 28, 2011 14:13:59

The fact that this happened at the TSA tells you everything you need to know about all involved parties.

#6

EscherEnigma

Mar 28, 2011 14:18:46
I don't feel entirely safe around people who believe in magic either, but I wouldn't go so far as to do anything to get them fired from their job for that.  I'd probably just ridicule them if they brought up the topic.  Otherwise I'd just deal with it.

Man, I love America.


... I don't feel entirely safe around people in general, but what's with the magical belief being special?  Whether they call it that or not, only 13% or so of the American population doesn't believe in magic.

In case that isn't clear, just about every religion includes some level of magical thinking, regardless of the words they choose to use to describe it.
#7

Timmeh

Mar 28, 2011 14:20:53
I don't understand this whatsoever. I figure that if these witches can do some spells that can protect me from the terrorists and Al-Quada, who cares? And hell, the article says that she was one of the top 10% at catching weapons.

How do you think she did that? It's either that she's more attuned to what weapons might be (hell, I'd burn a witch if I thought she was going to put a hex or a hax or whatever on me) or that she's using her magic to keep our skies free of evildoers.

Plus, she's probably not even touching those old people during checks. She's just wanding them with her magic to make sure they're legit.

Hmmmm.... what if there is some sort of secret society of witches who are all keeping us safe... and wearing revealing clothes...
#8

RedSiegfried

Mar 28, 2011 14:40:00
I don't feel entirely safe around people who believe in magic either, but I wouldn't go so far as to do anything to get them fired from their job for that.  I'd probably just ridicule them if they brought up the topic.  Otherwise I'd just deal with it.

Man, I love America.


... I don't feel entirely safe around people in general, but what's with the magical belief being special?  Whether they call it that or not, only 13% or so of the American population doesn't believe in magic.

In case that isn't clear, just about every religion includes some level of magical thinking, regardless of the words they choose to use to describe it.



Thankfully the path I chose to take in life resulted in the fact that I am in that 13%, wherever that number comes from.  As a result, I go back and forth between marvelling at Mankind and weeping for the future.

As for a secret society of witches keeping us safe, that'd be nice!  I wish!
#9

EscherEnigma

Mar 28, 2011 14:52:31
[...] wherever that number comes from.


US Census Bureau, 2004.  Only 13% of the population doesn't profess to be a member of some religion.

#10

bone_naga

Mar 28, 2011 14:54:47
What I really don't understand is that if you don't believe in Wicca, then why would you be afraid of her magic?
#11

ADHadh

Mar 28, 2011 14:55:57
I thought the weight test was when you weighed a witch against a duck or a goose and then tied her up and tossed her into a pond and if she floats she is a witch because you know... if she weighs more than a duck she should sink and drown... thus proving she is not a witch.


That's pretty much what I've meant
#12

RedSiegfried

Mar 28, 2011 15:19:14
What I really don't understand is that if you don't believe in Wicca, then why would you be afraid of her magic?



It's not the magic I'm afraid of, because it doesn't exist.  And afraid is probably a stronger word than I really mean to use.  I'm afraid of some of the things those with irrational beliefs sometimes do.

Like work for the TSA. 
#13

Novacat

Mar 28, 2011 15:25:08
#14

zombie_babies

Mar 28, 2011 15:39:53
A friend of mine is Wiccan and he married another Wiccan.  They're an eccentric lot, but harmless.  At any rate, discrimination for any reason is wrong.  I don't care if you think the person's religion is silly or that all religions are silly, you don't get to treat them poorly because of it.  It's that simple.
#15

pluisjen

Mar 28, 2011 15:48:28
Yeah I've known plenty of Wiccans and other Pagans and most of them are quite harmless and friendly fellows. They seem to focus more on the good parts of the religion and less on the conversion and/or fire and brimstone part Tongue out

Then again I meet most of them at fantasy festivals so I might be meeting a biased sample of them, of course.
#16

RedSiegfried

Mar 28, 2011 15:48:33
A friend of mine is Wiccan and he married another Wiccan.  They're an eccentric lot, but harmless.  At any rate, discrimination for any reason is wrong.  I don't care if you think the person's religion is silly or that all religions are silly, you don't get to treat them poorly because of it.  It's that simple.



Good point.  There are plenty of reasons to treat people poorly on an individual basis instead of relying on their religion as an excuse.   

Ill be picky though and say that discrimination is neither right nor wrong.  It's the consequences of the discrimination that give it a moral dimension.  But in the sense that you're using the word I understand what you're saying.

I will continue to discriminate against those with silly beliefs but my discrimination has little to no consequence for those I discriminate against so it's not a problem for anyone.  I certainly wouldn't seek to have anyone fired from their job because of their religious beliefs.  If their religious beliefs interfered in a negative way with their job I would go after them on that basis, not on the basis of their religion.

My personal experience with Wiccans?  Let's just say I avoid drama queens of any ilk and leave it at that.
#17

boraxe

Mar 28, 2011 15:49:47
Belief in magic and the ability to cast spells should be recognized for what it is: a sure sign of insanity.
#18

salla

Mar 28, 2011 15:54:46
Belief in magic and the ability to cast spells should be recognized for what it is: a sure sign of insanity.



I concur.
#19

Maxperson

Mar 28, 2011 18:22:23
I don't feel entirely safe around people who believe in magic either, but I wouldn't go so far as to do anything to get them fired from their job for that.  I'd probably just ridicule them if they brought up the topic.  Otherwise I'd just deal with it.

Man, I love America.



Some of them are amusing.........from a distance.

www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/24/2...
#20

Maxperson

Mar 28, 2011 18:23:51
Yeah I've known plenty of Wiccans and other Pagans and most of them are quite harmless and friendly fellows. They seem to focus more on the good parts of the religion and less on the conversion and/or fire and brimstone part 

Then again I meet most of them at fantasy festivals so I might be meeting a biased sample of them, of course.



Last time I checked, my father was a wiccan.  He may be something else by now, though.
#21

iqwinn

Mar 28, 2011 22:00:40
Sir Bedeviere:  There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.

Villagers:  Are there? Well, tell us!  Yes, tell us!  Do they hurt?
#22

Escef

Mar 28, 2011 22:11:51
If someone can be fired for fear of casting spells on people, than it should be perfectly legal to fire someone for praying on behalf of others.
#23

Novacat

Mar 29, 2011 1:02:54
If you read the article, you'll see plainly that she was not fired for being a Wiccan. She was fired for rocking the boat. Putting the incident with the coworker ON THE LIST of reasons she was fired was a huge mistake, because that gives her grounds to take it to court. They could have fired her for any number of other BS reasons, and she'd have had no recourse. They simply chose poorly.
#24

boraxe

Mar 29, 2011 8:14:42
If someone can be fired for fear of casting spells on people, than it should be perfectly legal to fire someone for praying on behalf of others.


I've heard of instances where nurses have spent time during an operation "cleansing the aura" of the patient. If that ever happened while I was on the table I'd sue the damned hospital! Same goes for praying, voodoo rituals, or any other religious/magical guff. When another human being's life or health is on the line and one is being both paid and trusted to fix it is not the time eschew responsibility in order to indulge in superstitions.
#25

Cpt_Micha

Mar 29, 2011 8:46:48
*sigh*

So basically TSA just fired their one employee that has displayed a shred of competence.

Just burn them....all of them.

And I'm not talking about witches.