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#1 lokiare Jun 29, 2011 9:24:51	townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/... Apparently whistleblowers aren't protected by the whistleblower law if they work for the good ole' gubment...
#2 bone_naga Jun 29, 2011 16:47:08	I am not totally familiar with ATF rules and regulations but I am speculating that they do have some sort of protection. However, what is on paper and what gets applied aren't always the same. I have seen people in the military get retaliated against by their chain of command. Now the trick there is that usually you can come out all right if you push back hard enough (and know how to do it, like contacting the correct agencies), but a lot of people give in after the first repercussion and don't want to risk anymore. Of course, you do have to have your ducks in a row. If you had a history of mistakes on record that people were content to overlook before, those will all be brought up as soon as you try to fight something like this.
#3 lokiare Jun 30, 2011 12:35:15	I am not totally familiar with ATF rules and regulations but I am speculating that they do have some sort of protection. However, what is on paper and what gets applied aren't always the same. I have seen people in the military get retaliated against by their chain of command. Now the trick there is that usually you can come out all right if you push back hard enough (and know how to do it, like contacting the correct agencies), but a lot of people give in after the first repercussion and don't want to risk anymore. Of course, you do have to have your ducks in a row. If you had a history of mistakes on record that people were content to overlook before, those will all be brought up as soon as you try to fight something like this. In this case I think it goes a bit higher up. The whole thing was he ratted out the ATF when they let criminals through the borders with guns (both ways). This was all done to falsly foster support for the new laws that further regulate the sale of guns in the U.S. I really think it gets political and that no protection would cover that person...
#4 bone_naga Jun 30, 2011 14:59:06	In this case I think it goes a bit higher up. The whole thing was he ratted out the ATF when they let criminals through the borders with guns (both ways). This was all done to falsly foster support for the new laws that further regulate the sale of guns in the U.S. I really think it gets political and that no protection would cover that person... Well from the people I have talked to, you are right this goes higher. I don't think any of the agents involved thought this was a good idea. And it certainly didn't help the already unfair attention gun laws were getting due to claims that most of the weapons the cartels had came from America. By the way, that is only partially true. Although a lot of weapons were American-made, they weren't taken directly from the US to the cartels. They were part of foreign military sales to South American governments that couldn't keep control due to either corruption or lax security and so they fell into the hands of the drug cartels. And there are some that look American but were actually manufactured elsewhere. Neither of which has anything to do with current regulations on gun sales in the US, but that hasn't stopped people from using it to further their own agendas.