| Post/Author/DateTime | Post |
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| #1jetshieldJun 19, 2011 11:31:59 | link |
| #2Robin_HoodlumJun 19, 2011 13:00:49 | ![]() I like girls like that! |
| #3pluisjenJun 19, 2011 13:04:04 | If they follow "until KO" rules then that's kinda harsh and bad parenting imho. On the other if it's point based with good hits being a point; why not? Doesn't hurt that much. I used to do karate matches at that age, same idea. As long as the goal isn't to punch someone until they stop moving then it's not all that dangerous. |
| #4Cpt_MichaJun 19, 2011 13:05:41 | I like the outrage and 'controversy' about this. Seriously? Might as well ban them from playground equipment too! Because knocking your head on a piece of equipment is more likely a harder hit than what these girls are capable of, without the gloves etc. With all that? Better luck seeing heavy injuries from a Pillow Fight. |
| #5bone_nagaJun 19, 2011 13:10:54 | Lots of kids do kickboxing, karate, or some other martial art at that age. Kids fight, kids play, kids fall, kids participate in contact sports. I don't see what the big deal is. |
| #6EscherEnigmaJun 19, 2011 13:19:42 | That Dr. needs her head examined. The kids looked perfectly protected to me. Meh. Depends on what the Dr.'s role actually was. If she was just asked for a statement because of the "controversy" then meh, she didn't say anything inaccurate. If she was trying to get it shut down or protesting it or something... then yeah. But the article didn't really paint her as an antagonist, just as an expert asked about it. Just think; those MMA guys barely even wear gloves and they rarely have life threatning injurys, at least from what I've read. They're also adults, which changes a lot of things, from liability, personal responsibility, risk analysis, and the simple fact that what's a minor injury for an adult can be much worse on a kid because they're not done growing yet. |
| #7Cpt_MichaJun 19, 2011 13:20:15 | Lots of kids do kickboxing, karate, or some other martial art at that age. Kids fight, kids play, kids fall, kids participate in contact sports. I don't see what the big deal is. We're barbarians though. So do what we say counts for anything in regards to 'safe and proper upbringing'? |
| #8bone_nagaJun 19, 2011 13:28:45 | Just think; those MMA guys barely even wear gloves and they rarely have life threatning injurys, at least from what I've read. |
| #9EscherEnigmaJun 19, 2011 13:40:28 | /shrug I may be wrong, but I doubt that's what Thunder_Dragonbane had in mind when he said "those MMA guys". Amateur/teen divisions aren't normally as... brutal... as adult competitions. |
| #10bone_nagaJun 19, 2011 13:49:28 | /shrug Yeah...ok. Those guys got beat down pretty hard. Also, everyone else in that competition were adults. I guess maybe they weren't as brutal only in the sense that they didn't last as long (nearly every fight ended in a knockout in the first round). Plenty of blood and someone ended up going to the hospital. |
| #11EscherEnigmaJun 19, 2011 13:53:16 | /shrug Not really my hobby, so if you say so I'll take your word for it. I can't be right all the time. |
| #12bone_nagaJun 19, 2011 14:05:59 | Full disclosure, that was the only amateur competition I've seen so I don't know if they're all like that. But even if they aren't, it's happening at least some of the time and compared to the article in the OP, that's pretty hardcore. A couple kids sparring with full protective gear doesn't really compare. |
| #13ADHadhJun 19, 2011 14:13:57 | I used to train taekwondo when I was a kid and even participated in some contact fights. Got a tooth chipped. |
| #14bone_nagaJun 19, 2011 14:16:08 | I used to train taekwondo when I was a kid and even participated in some contact fights. So did I and a lot of kids younger than me (the contact sparring I mean, not the chipped tooth). Lots of fun, even when I got hurt (turns out wearing a cup is actually important). |
| #15EscherEnigmaJun 19, 2011 14:23:12 | Meh. More then me. Point that I was trying to make though is that pointing out that professionals (or "more" professional, anyway) deciding to do potentially risky things isn't really on the level of pre-pubescents doing potentially risky things. Teens muddle the waters, as parents can no longer really control risks as much, instead having to try and teach how to evaluate risks for yourself. So while I agree that the girls aren't in any serious danger (face it, fighting, even in protective gear, is still riskier then not fighting), using MMA fighters as support (as MMA fighters are usually adult or teen. Until now I'd never heard of a minor competing) is a bit like saying "well, leather bikers go around without helmets all the time, so you dont' really need a helmet while riding your bicycle". But meh. |
| #16bone_nagaJun 19, 2011 14:30:32 | So while I agree that the girls aren't in any serious danger (face it, fighting, even in protective gear, is still riskier then not fighting), using MMA fighters as support (as MMA fighters are usually adult or teen. Until now I'd never heard of a minor competing) is a bit like saying "well, leather bikers go around without helmets all the time, so you dont' really need a helmet while riding your bicycle". I see what you're saying. I think it's more like "if adults can do X without any gear at all, then kids doing it with gear and in a more controlled environment (and with parental consent) is probably ok)". In other words "some leather bikers go around without helmets all the time, so a kid riding on his bicycle with a helmet really isn't a big deal". |
| #17EscherEnigmaJun 19, 2011 14:46:43 | /shrug |
| #18zombie_babiesJun 20, 2011 15:18:43 | The doctor's concern was, basically, that they could fall down. Guess we shouldn't ever teach our kids to walk, then, as early falls are inevitible. I get that she was likely just commenting after being asked, but asking that she think about what she's saying isn't that much, IMO. |
| #19EscherEnigmaJun 20, 2011 16:42:49 | ... I'm confused. If the biggest risk is of them falling down, why not say that? I think that makes it clear to any reasonable person the level of risk involved. |
| #20iqwinnJun 20, 2011 16:51:42 | Lots of fun, even when I got hurt (turns out wearing a cup is actually important). ![]() I never did full contact when I took martial arts, but I know I can do damage to someone if I need to. And for some reason, I'm thinking of this.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=geYszCBkRBM&feat... and then I saw this... www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ChgcwUwQ8&NR=1 |