For more amusing goodness scan through all of this (and no its not the only thread). avatar-forums.com/showthread.php?t=43
I particularly loved the third post in, "When you get discouraged by everyone around you, be courageous like Jake, and jump on the leonopteryx." There's also a real gem near the end, page 51 or 52.
I lol'd, rofl'd, and lmao'd. Is that wrong of me?
No it's not wrong to laugh at losers and no it shouldn't be something that you feel bad about.
I fail to see the logic in being depressed/suicidal because you don't live on imaginary planet called Pandora and are not a made-up species known as Na'vi.
Couldn't have typed it better myself, dirtyfrank.
I fail to see the logic in being depressed/suicidal because you don't live on imaginary planet called Pandora and are not a made-up species known as Na'vi.
People actually think they are Furries, dress like them and go to **** Conventions.
Does an Avatard really break the logic train at this point?
But that's what the Twitards are for.
Twitards are just goofballs that believe they have good taste in literature/film. I tune out their psychotic babblings.
Those peoples are just idiots. If they want to live on Pandora live the Na'Vi, they just have to leave behind everything they own and go live with a tribe of primitives in the rainforest.
That's what the Na'Vi are modeled after anyway.
That forum reads like a Twilight fanfic... Or maybe just Twilight in general.
Other fans have expressed feelings of disgust with the human race ...
That sums up my feelings after reading the article and looking at that thread nicely.
Those furries are no exception but at least they aren't depressed and suicidal over it. Just sexually frustrated... maybe.
I've talked to some of the people that go to those conventions.
They weren't sexually frustrated. At all.
And I bet I could guess their politics with an 85% or better accuracy.
Somehow I doubt that people with that degree of separation from reality have cognizant enough political views to really be taken seriously as a political person.
To phrase it another way: when someone's batshit insane, it doesn't matter what their politics are, they're still batshit insane.
There are faaarrrr more important, disturbing, pertinant, closer, and deserving things to get depressed and upset about.
Exactly. But these are probably the same people that look at the poor Afghanis and Iraqis and blame us for their problems. And are ok with us giving money to other countries to help them stop polluting (because China says we should help even though we already owe them plenty of money). How about that national debt of ours? You want to see something truly depressing, click here www.usdebtclock.org/index.html
One of them claimed that he would try to be a better person by eating all his food from now on. WTF? Are you ****ing kidding me? How about issues like people that want us dead for no other reason than living in a democratic nation? But of course, it's global climate change that poses an "unacceptable risk to the security of all nations" (Obama's words), or not clearing your plate at dinner when Somalians are starving, not terrorists.
I've talked to some of the people that go to those conventions.
They weren't sexually frustrated. At all.
Hence the word, maybe. I don't go to **** conventions as the furry fascination is too bizarre for me so of course I'd be biased on the subject.
And yes the USA national debt is depressing. What's worse is that no one in power seems to care how red it gets (their actions sure don't show it).
HA!
Not in this administration buddy!
And people wonder why you upset so many people. Ha ha ha.
Didn't say this one would. With how the powers-that-be look, I doubt any administrations will for a long time.
That's why I don't consider myself a Republican or a Democrat. I may agree with one more often than the other, but in the end they're both a bunch of liars and neither will really fix anything.
Exactly. But these are probably the same people that look at the poor Afghanis and Iraqis and blame us for their problems. And are ok with us giving money to other countries to help them stop polluting (because China says we should help even though we already owe them plenty of money). How about that national debt of ours? You want to see something truly depressing, click here www.usdebtclock.org/index.html
One of them claimed that he would try to be a better person by eating all his food from now on. WTF? Are you ****ing kidding me? How about issues like people that want us dead for no other reason than living in a democratic nation? But of course, it's global climate change that poses an "unacceptable risk to the security of all nations" (Obama's words), or not clearing your plate at dinner when Somalians are starving, not terrorists.
To be fair, most Iraqis were far better off under Saddam than they have been for the last several years. Horrible brutal dictators are absolutely bad, I'm not saying they are not. I'm glad he's not in power any more, but the situation now seems like it has gotten worse. I hope they get better soon. When you think about it though, most Iraqis are just like you and me; they have the same wants, the same needs, the same goals, and just want to be left alone. We took a stable situation where people were suffering, and made it chaotic and even more people suffering. So yeah, we are responsible for some of their problems.
About your second paragraph.... last two words. You know what kills more people in the US than terrorism? Murder, suicide, weather, the flu, car crashes... I'm sure many other things. Heck, check the stats on lightning strikes. There are also far more pressing concerns than terrorism. Oh, and more people are killed by domestic terrorists than Muslim extremists.
I've been in the same boat since I started voting...
I don't vote.
To be fair, most Iraqis were far better off under Saddam than they have been for the last several years. Horrible brutal dictators are absolutely bad, I'm not saying they are not. I'm glad he's not in power any more, but the situation now seems like it has gotten worse. I hope they get better soon. When you think about it though, most Iraqis are just like you and me; they have the same wants, the same needs, the same goals, and just want to be left alone. We took a stable situation where people were suffering, and made it chaotic and even more people suffering. So yeah, we are responsible for some of their problems.
About your second paragraph.... last two words. You know what kills more people in the US than terrorism? Murder, suicide, weather, the flu, car crashes... I'm sure many other things. Heck, check the stats on lightning strikes. There are also far more pressing concerns than terrorism. Oh, and more people are killed by domestic terrorists than Muslim extremists.
If someone launched a rocket that hit your house and kills your family, and you know who did it, would you tell anyone? A lot of Iraqis won't, even if it could be done without anyone knowing that they told. When a bomb explodes, or someone tells you there is a bomb in the area, which direction do you run? Iraqis and Afghanis gather around to watch (and then get upset when one of them catches a piece of frag with his face). Yeah we're all human and bleed red and whatnot, but we are not all the same. As for our part in it, yeah we did kind of screw the pooch, I can't pretend otherwise, but they (by which I mean Iraqis and Afghanis) are in large part responsible for their own problems.
As for your second paragraph, yeah people die from the flu. Usually people that already have weaker immune systems. It happens. At the moment, I don't see much more that can be done about it. Murder we tend to take pretty seriously, thats what we have police and such for. Suicide, yeah it sucks but at least its a person taking their own life and no one else is making the choice for them. I fail to see how any of that invalidates the terrorist threat (overblown as it sometimes is, especially when someone is trying to capitalize on it for political gain). If we do nothing about lightning strikes, the lightning will still strike the same. If we take no more action than we already do on car crashes, it will probably stay the same. If we do nothing more about terrorists, then as soon as they see a weak spot they will exploit it over and over and many more people will die. If we allow them to have a safe haven to launch attacks from, then they will use it. And note that I said nothing about Muslims or foreign terrorists, I just said terrorists.
And, even after all these years, I still fail to see how living with Saddam is better than living without him.
No pain, no gain... freedom isn't free.
Besides, Saddam needed to go (I believe we had piss poor timing, I would have wrapped up Afghanistan first and then moved on, but what's done is done). Despite all the press about Weapons of Mass Disappearance, there was some nasty stuff there.
BTW, weren't you leaving this forum like two weeks ago?
Speaking as someone who get back from Iraq not all that long ago, I think in deposing Saddam we did the right thing for the wrong reasons. We also botched the follow-up to the invasion horribly. But that is the past, and is immutable. Concentrate on fixing the current situation, there'll be time enough for blame later.
More or less my opinion on the matter, actually. I don't really have a problem with getting rid of horrible, brutal dictators. It was just carried off poorly, and not because of people like yourself. It's the lack of real goals/direction for the occupation that we're in a mess right now.
The trouble is, the longer we're there, the worse it will get. Sometimes you have to admit that you can't actually fix the problem and walk away. It sucks, because things there are bad and we caused a great part of that, but it seems (and I could be wrong, I'm pretty far from being over there) that we're not really doing a whole lot of good.
The trouble is, the longer we're there, the worse it will get. Sometimes you have to admit that you can't actually fix the problem and walk away. It sucks, because things there are bad and we caused a great part of that, but it seems (and I could be wrong, I'm pretty far from being over there) that we're not really doing a whole lot of good.
Power vaccuums in the Middle East are a sure-fire way to create a regional war. Until they have a government at least as strong as Saddam Hussien, we don't dare leave.
-Sarena
...things there are bad and we caused a great part of that...
Yes, because we're the ones sneaking weapons in from all over the world and setting up roadside bombs. We did not cause bad people to be bad. They did that all on their own. The only thing we, as in the governemnt of the USA, can be faulted for is giving them the oppotunity to organize themselves and get started.
but they (by which I mean Iraqis and Afghanis) are in large part responsible for their own problems.
This is applicable to almost all Muslim countrys.
Isn't that true for every country in the world?
Yeah, but Muslim countrys like to blame everybody else for their problems.
Most other countrys don't.
Ha!
Everyone likes to blame anyone else when they can. Don't pretend there's something unusual going on there in the blame game, it's an age-old tradition.
Yeah, but Muslim countrys like to blame everybody else for their problems.
Most other countrys don't.
Ha!
Everyone likes to blame anyone else when they can. Don't pretend there's something unusual going on there in the blame game, it's an age-old tradition.
Bolded... yes... for Muslim cultures.
And while everyone doen't blame others for their problems, most do. However, they haven't destroyed western nations...yet. And that's due to some checks and balances... which are falling more and more by the wayside and/or being ignored in this "new era"...
Anyway, Muslim gov'ts are literally bursting with rampant corruption and dirty dealing that would put any games in Washington to shame. And to Muslim cultures, it is tradition...
Oh, god... irony overload. Irony is hurting. So much irony. So much...
Don't be cute... say whats on your mind.
What is there to say? The iorny is self evident...
Oh come now!
Pretend that it's not self evident and enlighten those less witful than you...
I think that the word you are looking for is witty...
Iraq is the only Muslim country I have much familiarity with. I can vouch for it being corrupt. But it is all they know. There are efforts to reform it, but it is an uphill battle. I know of a few officials in Iraq that see the problem for what it is: a problem. It isn't easy to reform the system.
The Muslim bashing I'm seeing here does offend me. Sorry, I've worked alongside several Muslims who are a fair sight better people than many of the so-called Christians I've met.
Oh come now!
Pretend that it's not self evident and enlighten those less witful than you...
I think I know what he's hinting at. However, I would submit this, you can check their source, and the accompanying commentary for yourselves. NOTE: it may seem inversed (#1 is the least corrupt). Also, though there is some correlation to islamic countries, to my view it seems more closely related to economics. What the causation may be, I have not considered.
Everyone likes to blame anyone else when they can. Don't pretend there's something unusual going on there in the blame game, it's an age-old tradition.
Bolded... yes... for Muslim cultures.
That you consider this a unique feature of Muslim cultures is very... disturbing. I mean honestly... I could probably find at least one post from every week that you're not banned where you're either blaming Liberals and/or Democrats, or complaining about people blaming Republicans and/or Conservatives. How can you continue to do so, while claiming that the blame game is uniquely Muslim?
It's not particular to any culture or religion, it's just a human thing.
That you consider this a unique feature of Muslim cultures is very... disturbing. I mean honestly... I could probably find at least one post from every week that you're not banned where you're either blaming Liberals and/or Democrats, or complaining about people blaming Republicans and/or Conservatives. How can you continue to do so, while claiming that the blame game is uniquely Muslim?
It's not particular to any culture or religion, it's just a human thing.
PBN, this is actually what I was getting at. It had nothing to do with anyone's rankings of any real countries, and everything to do with The_SHAMAZON's claims in light of his own actions.
So...let's get back to laughing at people who want to kill themselves over a movie shall we?
No matter oh how very much I would like to reply to a few posts, I won't... for you bone_naga...
So PM me. I promise I'll be no more sarcastic then usual.
-Sarena
The idea of "Muslim Culture" is as much a myth as "American Culture". Other than using the same base language, going from New England to the deep South might as well be going to another country. The accents are wildly different, the way people carry themselves is different, the role religion plays is different. Even style of dress can be different (you won't find many people up this way wearing cowboy hats).
'Culture' does not = 'country'. There are both broad and narrow definitions of culture, and every culture will contain variations (sub-cultures). I'm not saying 'Muslim' culture necessarily makes sense, since a lot of these cultures have little to do with a specific religion (as you'll see neighbouring Christian nations act very similarly), but that doesn't mean a group of countries (be they Muslim or other) can't share a common overall culture.
PS (I do think the concept of an 'American culture' make, as I've seen no more variation America than in several other countries),
So...let's get back to laughing at people who want to kill themselves over a movie shall we?
Do we have to? I have better things to do and other losers to laugh at.
So...let's get back to laughing at people who want to kill themselves over a movie shall we?
Do we have to? I have better things to do and other losers to laugh at.
You can do whatever you feel you need to do, but if you fail to at least give a cursory chuckle towards the above indicated group, I shall have the SS pay a visit to your house.
Shy would Social Security pay a visit to my house? Like pay for a visit? Or just give me cash? So they'd reward me for not dissin' on the nerds? Or is it muslims?
The above group? Are we talking pandorians or muslims?
Shy would Social Security pay a visit to my house? Like pay for a visit? Or just give me cash? So they'd reward me for not dissin' on the nerds? Or is it muslims?
Now you're making my head hurt.
Either one, take your pick, although I personally find the Pandorans a tad more humorous. As for SS, its not to give you money, they need to take it and give it to other people since the cash they intended to give those other people was allocated for other random ventures that in no way shape or form serve the people of the United States.
Wow, we just went from talking about depressed avatar fans who think they will be reborn in pandora when they die to a discussion of politics, war, culture, and religion (and shamazon). I certainly played a role in that, but this was not exactly what I intended.
So...let's get back to laughing at people who want to kill themselves over a movie shall we?
It's why I stopped talking. In this thread, anyway.