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#1 lokiare Jul 13, 2011 5:10:08	www.realnewsreporter.com/?p=6332 Just when you thought there was some good news...
#2 Jharii Jul 13, 2011 6:14:28	People speculating that the IRS is going to come after him does not equate to the IRS is going after him.
#3 jetshield Jul 13, 2011 8:01:23	Don't kid yourself. The IRS will want to collect. The only question is if they'll collect a gift tax or income tax.
#4 capitan_estaban Jul 13, 2011 8:30:48	Unfortunately, the way our tax system is set up these are considered gifts or possibly income. What the Yankee's could do though, is claim that each of the players are giving him a part of his gift, that way he won't go above the $13,000 threshold. (I think it is funny that the IRS considers gifts to poligical parties not taxable. Funny how politicians never write laws that apply to them, huh?)
#5 draco1119 Jul 13, 2011 9:11:43	Funny how politicians never write laws that apply to them, huh?) You mean like ObamaCare?  Hilarious. NB4LOCK!!
#6 zombie_babies Jul 13, 2011 12:05:05	Prithee, fair lock!  Sloweth thine roll!  I wisheth to post before thee!
#7 lokiare Jul 13, 2011 12:24:03	Funny how politicians never write laws that apply to them, huh?) You mean like ObamaCare?  Hilarious. NB4LOCK!! Yeah, don't mention the GE and McDonald's exemptions... I AM THE LOK!
#8 zombie_babies Jul 13, 2011 12:50:47	Screw those.  I like Pelosi's favorite dining spots and hang-outs getting exemptions better.
#9 draco1119 Jul 13, 2011 12:53:28	Screw those.  I like Pelosi's favorite dining spots and hang-outs getting exemptions better.  Or the tuna company that her husband owns getting a labor tax exemption in American Samoa, but the competitor didn't?
#10 zombie_babies Jul 13, 2011 12:54:47	Ahh, nothin' like corruption to make ya smile.
#11 lokiare Jul 13, 2011 13:31:52	The answer is to vote them out... wait some of them are appointed, guess we just need to file a class action lawsuit and get all U.S. citizens in on it...
#12 zombie_babies Jul 13, 2011 13:35:08	The answer is that there is no answer.  So long as people govern, they will govern as people.  That means that all of our nastiness, ignorance, selfishness, greediness, incompetence, etc will have power to grow itself.  Voting won't fix this.  This can't be fixed.
#13 lokiare Jul 13, 2011 13:45:36	The answer is that there is no answer.  So long as people govern, they will govern as people.  That means that all of our nastiness, ignorance, selfishness, greediness, incompetence, etc will have power to grow itself.  Voting won't fix this.  This can't be fixed.  Checks and balances can fix it. Imagine if you will a politician that gets only 25% of their paycheck because their approval rating is down to 25%. I imagine that would motivate even the most corrupt politician to try to at least appease the masses...
#14 zombie_babies Jul 13, 2011 14:01:59	Appease the masses, eh?  You mean like promising hope and change and giving neither?  Look, it's all an act.  If you base their pay upon how the people feel about 'em, they'll just change their act.  And considering that they'll never be able to make everyone happy, they'll be even less inclined to do anything substantial than ever.  We already see the evidence in the constant 'paralysis' of gov't when it comes to making a decision.  'Oh, I'd totally have supported that but the other side would never let that happen.'  Or 'Yeah, I voted for that but it was (conveniently) blocked'.  Or better yet 'I'll make sure DADT gets repealed but I won't actually do anything but talk about it cuz if I do I may lose swing voters and I'd like to keep my job.'  Getting elected is a popularity contest.  Making pay based on another won't change anything.
#15 lokiare Jul 13, 2011 14:38:08	Appease the masses, eh?  You mean like promising hope and change and giving neither?  Look, it's all an act.  If you base their pay upon how the people feel about 'em, they'll just change their act.  And considering that they'll never be able to make everyone happy, they'll be even less inclined to do anything substantial than ever.  We already see the evidence in the constant 'paralysis' of gov't when it comes to making a decision.  'Oh, I'd totally have supported that but the other side would never let that happen.'  Or 'Yeah, I voted for that but it was (conveniently) blocked'.  Or better yet 'I'll make sure DADT gets repealed but I won't actually do anything but talk about it cuz if I do I may lose swing voters and I'd like to keep my job.'  Getting elected is a popularity contest.  Making pay based on another won't change anything. Sure it would. Good politicians like Reagan had pretty high approval ratings... 81% and 74%. Plus who could spend $400,000 a year when they get free housing and free security for life?
#16 zombie_babies Jul 13, 2011 14:40:41	Sure it would. Good politicians like Reagan had pretty high approval ratings... 81% and 74%. Plus who could spend $400,000 a year when they get free housing and free security for life? You're missing something incredibly basic here: approval != doing a good job.  People approve of what they perceive as someone doing a good job.  In short form, the method is inaccurate and prone to influence.  Not good. By the way, I could easily spend $400k/yr with a free house and security.  Like, really easily.
#17 homicidal_squirrel Jul 13, 2011 14:40:47	Sure it would. Good politicians like Reagan had pretty high approval ratings... 81% and 74%. Reagan being good is debatable. Plus who could spend $400,000 a year when they get free housing and free security for life? Really? You doubt a politicians ability to spend?
#18 homicidal_squirrel Jul 13, 2011 14:41:54	By the way, I could easily spend $400k/yr with a free house and security.  Like, really easily. Hookers and drugs. Done!
#19 zombie_babies Jul 13, 2011 14:53:48	****, man.  I could spend more than that in a day.  On one car.  Like, for srs.
#20 Cpt_Micha Jul 13, 2011 15:13:03	I'd spend it on multiple cars but yeah. CAN DO.
#21 draco1119 Jul 13, 2011 15:15:46	Plus, who has to show approval?  Their constituency, right?  The same people who keep voting for them in the first place.  I'm pretty sure Pelosi's got a HUGE approval rating in the liberal enclave that is San Francisco.
#22 lokiare Jul 14, 2011 0:44:45	Plus, who has to show approval?  Their constituency, right?  The same people who keep voting for them in the first place.  I'm pretty sure Pelosi's got a HUGE approval rating in the liberal enclave that is San Francisco. It'd be all the people under their jurisdiction, if there was some way to measure performance I'd be all for it, but the easiest fastest way to do it would be by approval rating... Heck pay them normal, but give them a bonus based on approval rating something like $100,000 * approval rating % or something.... make it worth their while...
#23 draco1119 Jul 14, 2011 8:02:04	Plus, who has to show approval?  Their constituency, right?  The same people who keep voting for them in the first place.  I'm pretty sure Pelosi's got a HUGE approval rating in the liberal enclave that is San Francisco. It'd be all the people under their jurisdiction, if there was some way to measure performance I'd be all for it, but the easiest fastest way to do it would be by approval rating... Heck pay them normal, but give them a bonus based on approval rating something like $100,000 * approval rating % or something.... make it worth their while... Like I said.  Pelosi's a Rep out of the City of San Frnacisco, the most liberal city in the country.  And she has been for decades.  Her approval rating there is high, even while the rest of Congress's is in the tanker.  Of course, that tends to be true wherever you go... "Congress as a whole is horrible, but MY Representative is awesome!"  Less so with Senators, but still true.
#24 pluisjen Jul 14, 2011 8:19:13	When you judge people by their approval rating, keep in mind that Lady Gaga would probably rank above Ghandi. Just saying.
#25 zombie_babies Jul 14, 2011 8:44:55	Like I said.  Pelosi's a Rep out of the City of San Frnacisco, the most liberal city in the country.  And she has been for decades.  Her approval rating there is high, even while the rest of Congress's is in the tanker.  Of course, that tends to be true wherever you go... "Congress as a whole is horrible, but MY Representative is awesome!"  Less so with Senators, but still true. And we all know Pelosi never did anything corrupt so this system of pay by approval rating would totally fix everything!
#26 Jharii Jul 14, 2011 9:37:31	Don't know the companies, but one company is paying off any tax bill that may come his way.  Another company is paying off $25,000 of his student loan.
#27 zombie_babies Jul 14, 2011 9:42:58	Don't know the companies, but one company is paying off any tax bill that may come his way.  Another company is paying off $25,000 of his student loan. You and your damnable good news!    Good to hear.  It'd suck for someone that skipped a real payday to get screwed like that.
#28 shiningwolf88 Jul 14, 2011 10:46:14	He's also getting his own baseball card...just for being a nice person. msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Fan-who-retu...
#29 Jharii Jul 14, 2011 11:16:25	Don't know the companies, but one company is paying off any tax bill that may come his way.  Another company is paying off $25,000 of his student loan. You and your damnable good news!    Good to hear.  It'd suck for someone that skipped a real payday to get screwed like that. I still think Jeter and/or the Yankees should do more...
#30 zombie_babies Jul 14, 2011 12:35:47	I still think Jeter and/or the Yankees should do more... This is gonna sound like it has an edge to it that it doesn't (yay text conversation!), but, like what?  Note there's no tone associated with this query aside from honest curiosity.
#31 lokiare Jul 14, 2011 22:31:30	I still think Jeter and/or the Yankees should do more... This is gonna sound like it has an edge to it that it doesn't (yay text conversation!), but, like what?  Note there's no tone associated with this query aside from honest curiosity.  World Piece1, Economic Recovery, More Jobs. They could help with a lot of stuff. 1World Piece not being defined as bombing, invading and/or occupying weaker countries, and simply avoiding fights with equal or greater countries.
#32 capitan_estaban Jul 14, 2011 23:14:09
#33 Jharii Jul 15, 2011 6:02:16	I still think Jeter and/or the Yankees should do more... This is gonna sound like it has an edge to it that it doesn't (yay text conversation!), but, like what?  Note there's no tone associated with this query aside from honest curiosity.  Like pay the man some serious cheese, at least his student loans.
#34 jetshield Jul 15, 2011 6:15:35	Just the tickets alone are valued at something like $45000, assuming I remember correctly.
#35 pluisjen Jul 15, 2011 6:16:53	What's he gonna do with cheese? I doubt the student loan administration is going to accept them as payment, even if some of it is referred to as "liquid gold", at least here.
#36 Jharii Jul 15, 2011 6:53:58	Just the tickets alone are valued at something like $45000, assuming I remember correctly. The ball alone is conservatively estimated to be worth $250,000.  Knowing rabid Yankee fans, you can inflate that to $300k-$500k in an auction setting.  That's straight cash, not tickets and merchandise. This guy is getting raked over the coals by a lot of people for the decision he made.  Jeter should step up and take that heat off of him and to show everyone that he made the right decision.