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#1 Robin_Hoodlum Jun 04, 2011 10:15:16	www.military.com/news/article/cadet-patt... Thoughts?
#2 KillerGM Jun 04, 2011 11:19:47	LMAO.  Just the premise is hilarious! On the actual matter, though, it's kind of dumb.  Stupid celebrities and their bodyguards.  Don't go near a diva's luggage!! Though I have to say, there is a part of me that's happy someone who was "oblivious" because he was on a cell phone got the crap beat out of him.  Lord knows that if I had 'people', I'd be sorely tempted to take out a few, myself!  But that's just the petty, impatient part of me that I don't listen to very often. I'm all for pressing charges against the diva and her crew, but I'm wary of the civil suit. Just more celebrities using their fame/status to get different treatment.
#3 bone_naga Jun 04, 2011 11:54:17	Wow. That's pretty dumb. I hope he wins the suit. Celebrity status shouldn't give you free reign to rough people up just because they're too close to your luggage in a public area.
#4 Cpt_Micha Jun 05, 2011 12:07:51	She just killed whatever was left of her prehistoric career, regardless at this point. A has been, just ordered her thugs to beat up a soldier in, America of all places.  This isn't the hippy generation, we actually respect our soldiers. Stupid Hag.
#5 Escef Jun 05, 2011 14:03:00	West Pointers have a rep for being arrogant PoS's. If you look at the other side of the story, this kid was on his phone, oblivious to where he was and what he was doing, asked to mind himself, became verbally abusive, and was knocked on his ass for it. I've watched the footage of the incident taken by the security cameras (it's on YouTube). Sadly, the lack of audio and the fact that most of the pre-altercation action takes place just below the camera's view leaves a lot of context out. However, the video clearly shows the bodyguards pushing him back several times before he is struck. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if escalating the confrontation was his fault. Way one or other, it isn't my business, nor my problem. Let the courts decide, I say.
#6 Jharii Jun 05, 2011 14:10:51	Assault is assault.  Even if there was a verbal altercation, there really is no justification for that.  And the bodyguards are just as responsible as Patti LaBelle.
#7 Robin_Hoodlum Jun 05, 2011 21:33:57	Escef, Maybe his mouth did run, but he was pushed back several times before he was struck first.
#8 Escef Jun 05, 2011 21:44:47	Escef, Maybe his mouth did run, but he was pushed back several times before he was struck first. Yes, he was. The bodyguards gave him a chance to back down. As they were pushing him. They aren't likely to hit him unless he presents a danger, issued some kind of threat, or (in this case) refused to stand down when confronted by overwhelming numbers and force that only wanted him to back off. I'm not saying being stupid is enough to warrant getting hit. (And I don't think the hit would have been so bad without that concrete pillar there to "gently" catch him.) I see a bunch of guys in a violent profession having to deal with a belligerant ass. I'm wagering there's a lot in this story that involves an exchange of words that we don't have details on yet.
#9 jesse.two.coins Jun 06, 2011 7:10:32	regardless escef, escalating to violence is frowned upon and uncalled for. For instance I could pop off all day and as soon as someone hits me its a lawsuit, its called trollin and it happens.
#10 Qube Jun 06, 2011 8:20:54	Escef, Maybe his mouth did run, but he was pushed back several times before he was struck first. Yes, he was. The bodyguards gave him a chance to back down. As they were pushing him. They aren't likely to hit him unless he presents a danger, issued some kind of threat, or (in this case) refused to stand down when confronted by overwhelming numbers and force that only wanted him to back off. well, at 0:41 it does look like he pushes back. Probbably in situations like this, it's not black & white, but shades of gray ... For example, the suit states he wasn't paying attention to the singer or her bodyguards and had his back turned towards them. Maybe he did not hear the guards asking him nicely to step away from the luggage (<0:40). When ignoring them, and continuing towards the luggage, the guard grabs his shoulder (0:40), which King, who's now supprized, feels like an invasion of personal space (or attack) and reflexively pushes them away (0:41), which the guards mistake for violence, and try to subdue him (0:43+) Either way, IMHO, it's generally foolish not to pay to bodyguards. escalating to violence is frowned upon I totally agree
#11 jesse.two.coins Jun 06, 2011 9:02:58	Escef, Maybe his mouth did run, but he was pushed back several times before he was struck first. Yes, he was. The bodyguards gave him a chance to back down. As they were pushing him. They aren't likely to hit him unless he presents a danger, issued some kind of threat, or (in this case) refused to stand down when confronted by overwhelming numbers and force that only wanted him to back off. well, at 0:41 it does look like he pushes back. Probbably in situations like this, it's not black & white, but shades of gray ... For example, the suit states he wasn't paying attention to the singer or her bodyguards and had his back turned towards them. Maybe he did not hear the guards asking him nicely to step away from the luggage (<0:40). When ignoring them, and continuing towards the luggage, the guard grabs his shoulder (0:40), which King, who's now supprized, feels like an invasion of personal space (or attack) and reflexively pushes them away (0:41), which the guards mistake for violence, and try to subdue him (0:43+) Either way, IMHO, it's generally foolish not to pay to bodyguards. escalating to violence is frowned upon I totally agree good post +1
#12 Qube Jun 06, 2011 9:10:38	good post +1 thx