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| #1mattstaggsFeb 16, 2010 12:02:05 | This is both lazy and irresponsible reporting, especially from a newspaper of record like the Boston Herald Reporter Laurel J. Smart makes an extremely tenuous case for connecting violent behavior - in this case that of accused campus shooter Amy Bishop - to Dungeons & Dragons. Excerpt: Accused campus killer Amy Bishop was a devotee of Dungeons & Dragons - just like Michael “Mucko” McDermott, the lone gunman behind the devastating workplace killings at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield in 2000. The reporter also goes on to call gaming an "egghead escape," which in my mind is a not-so-subtle anti-intellectual jab. If you're interested in emailing the editors, you can reach them via letterstoeditor@bostonherald.com. I sent one this morning. I'd urge you to be polite and pleasant, if you do so. They don't need any more anti-gamer ammunition. |
| #2modern_iconoclastFeb 16, 2010 12:13:19 | "Devotee" ? I'm just glad they didn't mention his mental health problems, that would have shocked all the mentally ill if they had put the blame on that. |
| #3meshonFeb 16, 2010 12:34:16 | Yes, the language used in this article is pretty biased. Usually when police "seize" something it's something that is illegal, or at the very least, dangerous. Generally not something related to imagination and creativity. Can you imagine how silly it would sound to read "Police seized watercolor paint and artist's brushes from the killer's apartment." And is D&D just a "fantasy role-playing board game"? I thought writers were supposed to do research? Unfortunately the article is syndicated, so it should be popping up in a few places. Where were the big articles when gamers raised over $170,000 for Doctors Without Borders? cheers, Meshon |
| #4zombie_babiesFeb 16, 2010 12:36:36 | Yeah, I find the fact that police did sieze D&D books as part of their investigation to be more disconcerting than this stupid article - not that it isn't disturbing in its own right. I took a look at some of the comments and the few I saw should give ya'all some hope. Nobody seems convinced D&D is the problem. Most do, however, seem convinced that the article is a hunk of crap. |
| #5aheadley92Feb 16, 2010 12:40:25 | I am a journalism student and not once have I been told that in my profession I need to make up reasons for an event. News is news, reporting is not another outlet for pundits and opinions. I like John Ruch's comment. I took this exerpt from the comments section. "My name is John Ruch. I freelanced for the Herald for years, during which I played D&D regularly, as I still do. This article is the exact type of hateful, incompetent, fraudulent, lazy and incorrect "reporting" that convinced me to stop associating myself with the Herald. So, obviously, playing D&D not only turns people into murderers; it also turns people into fools who let their name appear in a paper alongside those of integrity-free morons. Oh, the horror." |
| #6Cpt_MichaFeb 16, 2010 12:41:34 | is this newspaper hooked up with Faux News by any chance? Seriously. That's how badly this is written. |
| #7hayabusaFeb 16, 2010 13:10:32 | amais this newspaper hooked up with Faux News by any chance? It used to be owned by Murdoch. Not anymore, though. |
| #8Cpt_MichaFeb 16, 2010 14:06:16 | What did they get rid of them because they weren't good enough at being News? *ZING* |
| #9PinnacleFeb 16, 2010 14:35:13 | "'They even acted this crap out,' the source said."![]() This is an actual news article? How very professional. Did the writer run out of things to say about her and DnD? That must be why it switched to rambling about a completely different murderer halfway through. |
| #10mattstaggsFeb 16, 2010 15:01:38 | And is D&D just a "fantasy role-playing board game"? I thought writers were supposed to do research? It's funny: there were so many other offensive things about this article that I didn't even notice this particularly egregious error. Bravo, sir. Good catch. |
| #11mattstaggsFeb 16, 2010 15:02:52 | Yeah, I find the fact that police did sieze D&D books as part of their investigation to be more disconcerting than this stupid article - not that it isn't disturbing in its own right. I took a look at some of the comments and the few I saw should give ya'all some hope. Nobody seems convinced D&D is the problem. Most do, however, seem convinced that the article is a hunk of crap. I've been sending spreading word of this article far and wide via Twitter and Facebook. Most of my pals are gamers, writers and other wordy people. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see many of those comments coming from them! |
| #12zombie_babiesFeb 16, 2010 15:05:43 | I've been sending spreading word of this article far and wide via Twitter and Facebook. Most of my pals are gamers, writers and other wordy people. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see many of those comments coming from them! It's possible. We D&D players do like to murd ... I mean, talk. Yeah, talk. ![]() |
| #13lhockeeFeb 16, 2010 15:09:55 | If the psychosis already exists before someone plays a game of imagination {PnP/Whatever}, then the psychosis is only going to be nurtured by that mental flaw when playing a game that includes violence as a main-stream theme; not induced because of it. Why is that so hard for all these "experts" to figure out? Epic Fail. |
| #14PinnacleFeb 16, 2010 15:11:58 | And is D&D just a "fantasy role-playing board game"? I thought writers were supposed to do research? Reminds me of how in "Dark Dungeons" the writer clearly has no idea how the game is played. |
| #15KlirshonFeb 16, 2010 19:53:56 | If the psychosis already exists before someone plays a game of imagination {PnP/Whatever}, then the psychosis is only going to be nurtured by that mental flaw when playing a game that includes violence as a main-stream theme; not induced because of it. Why is that so hard for all these "experts" to figure out? Epic Fail. This is America we're conversing about, we have to find something else to pawn our failures onto... It is forbidden to blame ourselves for our own actions. |
| #16ViolenceJackFeb 16, 2010 21:48:19 | If the psychosis already exists before someone plays a game of imagination {PnP/Whatever}, then the psychosis is only going to be nurtured by that mental flaw when playing a game that includes violence as a main-stream theme; not induced because of it. Why is that so hard for all these "experts" to figure out? Epic Fail. I wish I could say that Canada was better about that, but the only difference is that in Canada they'd be blaming the government. |
| #17odinfellhammerFeb 16, 2010 23:25:50 | what? Have we gone back to the eighties? Haven't we even evolved over the past 30 yrs with any understanding?????? Next thing we will be burning books. What ignorance!!!!!!! |
| #18Ragnar_LodbrokFeb 16, 2010 23:54:16 | ![]() They're wrong. D&D doesn't make people violent: stupid bull**** like this does. |
| #19EscherEnigmaFeb 17, 2010 0:25:39 | what? Have we gone back to the eighties? Haven't we even evolved over the past 30 yrs with any understanding?????? Next thing we will be burning books. What ignorance!!!!!!! I can provide links to book burnings in the US of A within the last decade, if you like. |
| #20pbnFeb 17, 2010 0:31:44 | I can provide links to book burnings in the US of A within the last decade, if you like. You beat me to it ![]() |
| #21toastedamphibianFeb 17, 2010 0:34:28 | "Police seized two Dungeons & Dragons books from McDermott’s Haverhill apartment..." !! So.... the police are going to seize my books if I commit a crime? What the hell. Books are now seizable assets? I only figured cops would seize a book if it held records of a crime (like illegal accounting, fond diary entries, or happy time scrapbooking) or was used in a crime (like beating someone with it). |
| #22WebsterFeb 17, 2010 2:45:35 | Huh. And all this time I keep talling people the Game Police won't take your books away if you're playing D&D "wrong". And how does a fan of D&D have only 2 books? |
| #23dragomFeb 17, 2010 2:51:09 | Huh. And all this time I keep talling people the Game Police won't take your books away if you're playing D&D "wrong". I don't think you can play the game properly with just two... Maybe he sponged off everyone else during games? PS: I so knew this was going to happen after the Wisconsin thing |
| #24toastedamphibianFeb 17, 2010 3:52:39 | Huh. And all this time I keep talling people the Game Police won't take your books away if you're playing D&D "wrong". Mabey the detective just wanted a free copy of Adventurer's Vault 2 and Primal Power to complete his/her collection. |
| #25dragomFeb 17, 2010 3:58:10 |
Interesting... Maybe I should become an officer too so I too can seize a new TV and a couple libraries... Though if he snagged two books out of a larger collection of a guy who's been playing since the 80's, it would be the Red and Blue books for E-bay turn around. |
| #26KlirshonFeb 17, 2010 7:48:57 | Perhaps this journalist is doing her job... at being a shill. Anyone know if Chick Publications is the one paying for her opinions? |
| #27boraxeFeb 17, 2010 8:21:14 | A little research turns up that the woman who wrote this is apparently 50 years old, making her 14 in 1974 the year D&D was released. Nothing would make me happier than to learn she is actually a D&D player who wrote this article as a lark, a nod to old-school anti-D&D paranoia. Sadly, I do not think this is the case. It seems the Amy Bishop case is her current bread and butter, the focus of all her recent articles. Since no new info on the case has come to life yet she is forced to delve deeply into unfounded speculation to keep her name on the page and cash in her wallet. Pu simply, she is a shameless hack. |
| #28odinfellhammerFeb 17, 2010 8:33:56 | But, This type of journalism creates a whisper down the lane affect where people alter the story and eventually becomes urban legend. This story puts a stigma on D&D with just hearsay. |
| #29KlirshonFeb 17, 2010 8:41:02 | So it's a tabloid then? |
| #30boraxeFeb 17, 2010 8:47:32 | So it's a tabloid then? It's not a tabloid, but this is tabloid journalism. |
| #31KlirshonFeb 17, 2010 8:53:13 | Toe"may"toe, toe"mah"toe... close enough for me. |
| #32zombie_babiesFeb 17, 2010 9:15:02 | Aaarghh! Too ... many ... toes ... |
| #33mattstaggsFeb 17, 2010 9:16:01 | My friend Annalee Newitz at IO9.com took up the mantle and wrote a great piece of criticism on Laurel J. Sweet's D&D piece. It's definitely worth a read. Newitz is one smart cookie, and a great writer. |
| #34zombie_babiesFeb 17, 2010 9:24:12 | My friend Annalee Newitz at IO9.com took up the mantle and wrote a great piece of criticism on Laurel J. Smart's D&D piece. It's definitely worth a read. Newitz is one smart cookie, and a great writer. I dunno. There was ample speculation in this piece as well. Sure, she covered her butt, but it was still speculation. I happen to think she's on the right track, but it's no kind of proof. Still, she should be commended for digging much, much deeper than her counterpart at the Herald. It's the same type of article, just done better. |
| #35lhockeeFeb 17, 2010 10:15:32 | Can's I be a D&D murderer as wells? I know how mine for fish and stick hilt of sword into crotch! ![]() |
| #36EscherEnigmaFeb 17, 2010 10:19:55 | I know how mine for fish and stick hilt of sword into crotch! You kids and your innuendo. |
| #37lhockeeFeb 17, 2010 10:29:02 | I wish I still was a kid... no bills, no job {though I don't have one anyway at the moment}, no pressure, and all you ever had to fear was getting cooties from girls. I wish I was at least a decade younger; even being a teen would be less of a hassle. ![]() |
| #38pbnFeb 17, 2010 14:04:35 | Aaarghh! Too ... many ... toes ... I thought you were past that ;) |
| #39dragomFeb 17, 2010 14:08:42 | Being in the position of a teen without actually having the mentality of a teen would be nice, having both really sucks. |
| #40lhockeeFeb 17, 2010 14:09:50 | Point. |
| #41zombie_babiesFeb 17, 2010 14:10:59 | I thought you were past that ;) So did I ... so did I ... ![]() |
| #42lhockeeFeb 17, 2010 14:12:53 | Z_B! |
| #43zombie_babiesFeb 17, 2010 14:14:48 | You're damned lucky that pic didn't work, buddy. ![]() |
| #44lhockeeFeb 17, 2010 14:19:56 | Want me to make it too? I can do that! thefreshxpress.com/freshxp/wp-content/up... www.dribbleglass.com/Toes/toes-34.jpg goodmusicncoolstuff.files.wordpress.com/... I enjoy helping people. |
| #45zombie_babiesFeb 17, 2010 14:20:57 | I r not clicking. |
| #46lhockeeFeb 17, 2010 14:22:05 | I r sad now. |
| #47zombie_babiesFeb 17, 2010 14:26:31 | Yay? Yes. Yes, definitely yay. ![]() |
| #48EscherEnigmaFeb 17, 2010 14:26:35 | I r not clicking. Eh. They're just pics of really bad toes and toe-nails. I think one of them may have been diseased. The pictures of brown recluse bites are worse. |
| #49zombie_babiesFeb 17, 2010 14:29:03 | Eh. They're just pics of really bad toes and toe-nails. I think one of them may have been diseased. The pictures of brown recluse bites are worse. I figured as much, but in order to continue this persona properly, I needed to act as though I was totally opposed to viewing toes of any sort. Behavior to fit the schtick, you know. I'm quite committed to the parts I choose to play - when and if I choose to play them. Or maybe I should just be committed. Yeah, probably that. Anyhoo, the 4th wall has been broken and this character is now dead. Toe away, peeples. Toe away. |
| #50lhockeeFeb 17, 2010 14:32:12 | Yay! farm2.static.flickr.com/1149/593666168_4... |
| #51EscherEnigmaFeb 17, 2010 14:34:47 | Yay! hehe. Ok, *those* are cute. |
| #52lhockeeFeb 17, 2010 14:36:27 | ![]() |