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| #1Robin_HoodlumJun 24, 2011 18:58:47 | www.military.com/news/article/marines-in... I wonder how well these perform as advertised... |
| #2Cpt_MichaJun 24, 2011 19:02:50 | Well if it actually prevents debris from hitting or at least reduces the amount of penetration it's worth it, providing it's not too hot to wear in that climate. It makes sense when you think about it though, because current plated armor (even with the thigh plates) doesn't even cover the groin region very well, if you're lucky you get that kelvar cloth hanging down the front, which isn't really effective against upward blows, or blows from the side for that matter. |
| #3JhariiJun 24, 2011 19:06:18 | Old news is old. ![]() |
| #4draco1119Jun 24, 2011 20:37:09 | Seeing the title, I thought this thread was going to be about Super Troopers. |
| #5EscherEnigmaJun 24, 2011 21:48:56 | Old news is old. IIRC, that was about syphillis. |
| #6dirtyfrankJun 24, 2011 23:11:17 | brainfart moment. I read the title as "bulletproof underwater" when i clicked the link I couldn't figure out what it had to do with water. hahaha |
| #7pluisjenJun 25, 2011 4:36:35 | I wonder how well these perform as advertised... I doubt they can get any willing test subjects to try it out. On the other hand... there might very well be an article up in a few weeks about "Marine in hospital after testing ballistic underwear with kick to crotch" or something. ![]() |
| #8ADHadhJun 25, 2011 7:17:52 |
I think they have ballistic gel for that. |
| #9pluisjenJun 25, 2011 7:39:10 | I'm pretty sure the ballistic gel was used to find out how to advertise it... the only way to find out if it actually works as well as advertised is to actually use it to do what it's supposed to do. |
| #10JhariiJun 25, 2011 9:01:17 | Yep. Like the dude that invented the bulletproof vest travelling police station to police station shooting himself in the chest to prove that it worked. |
| #11Mad_JackJun 26, 2011 11:23:47 | I'm suddenly seeing soldiers walking around wearing all three pairs of shorts at once, with ballistic socks stuffed down the front... Eh, the Japanese used to use silk to stop arrows... I'm not sure how effective they'll be against sharp metal IED frags, but they should do some good against random debris flying around from the blast. |
| #12bone_nagaJun 26, 2011 20:41:52 | I wouldn't really call these "bulletproof" since pretty much any bullet would go right through it. Whether or not they are worth it will probably depend on the specific threat and mission. I expect that the protection offered will probably be similar to that of ballistic eye protection. Meaning it will stop really small light fragments and will keep small bits of rock and dirt from being embedded in your skin, but anything heavy-cased will go right through it. Like I probably wouldn't wear them during a convoy, because if something is strong enough to penetrate your armored vehicle, your underwear isn't going to do **** to stop it. |
| #13bone_nagaJun 26, 2011 20:42:32 | Yep. Like the dude that invented the bulletproof vest travelling police station to police station shooting himself in the chest to prove that it worked. Or the guy that invented the bomb suit used by the military who has videos of himself getting blown up inside of it. |
| #14Cpt_MichaJun 27, 2011 14:21:57 | I wouldn't really call these "bulletproof" since pretty much any bullet would go right through it. Whether or not they are worth it will probably depend on the specific threat and mission. I expect that the protection offered will probably be similar to that of ballistic eye protection. Meaning it will stop really small light fragments and will keep small bits of rock and dirt from being embedded in your skin, but anything heavy-cased will go right through it. Like I probably wouldn't wear them during a convoy, because if something is strong enough to penetrate your armored vehicle, your underwear isn't going to do **** to stop it. Did you see the vid for some of the new ballistic glasses? They can fire a .22 round point blank at one and not get penetration. It's really neat. (I saw it on the History channel, it was a Modern Marvels special about body protection I think) |
| #15EscherEnigmaJun 27, 2011 14:41:35 | Not getting penetration is fine, but that force has to go somewhere. |
| #16Cpt_MichaJun 27, 2011 14:47:56 | most of the stress is absorbed on impact, I'm sure it'd feel like getting hit in the cheekbone , or eyebrow but that's better than a bigole hole in your head no? |
| #17EscherEnigmaJun 27, 2011 16:16:47 | most of the stress is absorbed on impact, I'm sure it'd feel like getting hit in the cheekbone , or eyebrow but that's better than a bigole hole in your head no? Better? Yes. But I'm finding it hard to imagine that there's enough surface area for the impact to dissipate over that it doesn't have a rather high risk of still causing injury. |
| #18draco1119Jun 27, 2011 18:47:14 | most of the stress is absorbed on impact, I'm sure it'd feel like getting hit in the cheekbone , or eyebrow but that's better than a bigole hole in your head no? They're glasses. Stopping a .22 round at PB range will probably cause injury and probably prevent death. |
| #19EscherEnigmaJun 27, 2011 19:13:20 | I do so adore as people agree with me in the most contrary manner possible. |
| #20draco1119Jun 27, 2011 19:31:37 | I do so adore as people agree with me in the most contrary manner possible. Well, it wouldn't be any fun the other way, now would it? ![]() |
| #21bone_nagaJun 27, 2011 20:27:47 | Did you see the vid for some of the new ballistic glasses? They can fire a .22 round point blank at one and not get penetration. It's really neat. (I saw it on the History channel, it was a Modern Marvels special about body protection I think) That's cool, but have you fired a .22? It's a small step above an air rifle. And since the enemy isn't firing .22s at us, I doubt it will do us much good in that department (not that I am bashing ballistic glasses, I wear them all the time since I work with explosives that could send even small bits of dirt or rock into my eyes and end up blinding me). And I'm not sure that the underwear will even be able to do that. Like I said, I'm not saying it's completely useless, just that its utility is limited, and I expect there will be a lot of people (usually officers) who will try to treat this like some magic cureall to end all our IED woes. |
| #22Cpt_MichaJun 28, 2011 7:14:45 | Yeah, .22s aren't particularly powerful it is neat though. Speaking of airrifles, I actually have one that puts out a velocity comparable to a 22 round. heh. As far as the underwears stopping power goes I guess it depends on how light it really is. It's bound to be better than the stupid kevlar loincloth that overhangs to 'protect' your man bits however. |
| #23zombie_babiesJun 28, 2011 12:16:29 | Eh, the Japanese used to use silk to stop arrows... I'm not sure how effective they'll be against sharp metal IED frags, but they should do some good against random debris flying around from the blast. It's been a while since I took a look at stuff like this, but I'm pretty sure the reason they wore silk wasn't to stop an arrow but, rather, to have it pushed inside the wound channel along with the arrow shaft in the hope of sealing the wound somewhat. And I thought it was the Mongols that did it, too. |
| #24bone_nagaJun 28, 2011 14:34:27 | Eh, the Japanese used to use silk to stop arrows... I'm not sure how effective they'll be against sharp metal IED frags, but they should do some good against random debris flying around from the blast. I believe you are correct. |