Cake: How do you use it in your game?

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#1

lizardmage

Feb 12, 2010 22:39:30

So like the topic says how do you use cake in your game?

Do you bribe you DM with a delicious piece of cake to get that awesome Red Dragon Figurine of Wonderous Power you've been eyeing forever?

Do you tempt your pc's in game with a Double Fudge Chocolate Cake that's really a deadly Mimic in disguise!?!?!?!

Is cake your prefered munchie at the table? Or are you more of a pie person?


What's your favorite cake? Should there be a baking skill in 4th ed? What's a good DC in 3.X for baking a cake?

Cake you have questions we have DMs and players to answer that's finally answer the important questions that we've all be wondering since we started D&D.

Mine is how many magic missles in 4th ed does it take to bake a cake?

#2

zenirvanaarchon

Feb 12, 2010 23:32:09
oh great another edition wars thread.    Look cake is as great in 4E as is was in 3E 

But really I am one of the few people who hate cake.  I just dont see it as food. 
#3

Hocus-Smokus

Feb 12, 2010 23:38:15

But really I am one of the few people who hate cake.  I just dont see it as food. 



Oh. My. God.
How dare you, sir?
Cake is one of the 4 major food groups, right alongside bacon, Mountain Dew, and bacon.

On-topic (I can't believe I'm actually participating in this), I use cake just as it was meant to be used...selfishly. If the DM wants some cake, he can buy or bake his own. I make a really mean German Chocolate cake, and, like most selfish people, prefer to have my cake and eat it, too.

As an aside....do Little Debbie zebra cakes count as actual "cake", or are they less-than-worthy and little more than tiny snacks?
#4

LFK

Feb 13, 2010 0:32:43

Cake is one of the 4 major food groups, right alongside bacon, Mountain Dew, and bacon.


#5

Hocus-Smokus

Feb 13, 2010 0:34:04

Cake is one of the 4 major food groups, right alongside bacon, Mountain Dew, and bacon.





You, sir, have just won the internet. I salute you!
#6

karma

Feb 13, 2010 2:48:56

But really I am one of the few people who hate cake.  I just dont see it as food. 



I could Godwin this thread right now because of such blasphemy...


You can't do this with pie:

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#7

dragom

Feb 13, 2010 3:11:51

I'd eat it, but I'd cry at the same time.


Mind I couldn't use charged wands either.

#8

VaultDweller

Feb 13, 2010 6:23:41
But really I am one of the few people who hate cake.  I just dont see it as food. 


I don't see it as food either.

You've touched on the more existential philosophies of cake.  What is cake, truly?  On a metaphysical level, how does one define cake?

Cake is more of a religion than a food.  Cake is a way of life.

This is how I use cake in my Forgotten Realms campaign: as the core of the Faerun religion.  All of the Good gods have been replaced with cakes.  The Unaligned gods have been replaced with cupcakes.  The Evil gods are (of course) pies.

Lord Ao has been rewritten into the Parent Gods and Great Bakers, Duncan Hines and Betty Crocker.
#9

Calestin_Kethal

Feb 13, 2010 6:28:45

So like the topic says how do you use cake in your game?

Do you bribe you DM with a delicious piece of cake to get that awesome Red Dragon Figurine of Wonderous Power you've been eyeing forever?

Do you tempt your pc's in game with a Double Fudge Chocolate Cake that's really a deadly Mimic in disguise!?!?!?!

Is cake your prefered munchie at the table? Or are you more of a pie person?


What's your favorite cake? Should there be a baking skill in 4th ed? What's a good DC in 3.X for baking a cake?

Cake you have questions we have DMs and players to answer that's finally answer the important questions that we've all be wondering since we started D&D.

Mine is how many magic missles in 4th ed does it take to bake a cake?





Mostly cake has been used in my games as an add-on. A splat book if you will. (Usually minus the splat unless someone is eating it over a book.)


My GMs have generally preferred other items as bribery fodder. I've never needed to use cake. (Though one GM hated cheesecake, so it was a good way to irritate said GM.)

My players have also generally preferred other items of distraction. And the only mimic I ever threw at the party was a static one trapped as a door. So he was more the talking knocker out of Labyrinth.

The preferred munchies are misc snacks. Cake is reserved for special occasions. Pie is nice, but cake is better.

My favorite cake would be a tie between carrot and devil's food. Though German chocolate is a close contender. No need for a baking skill. Everyone can make cake. (Though it might be bad cake.)

For 3.x, the DC would scale. Average general store bought cake mix would be a 10, home made would be 15, professional 20, and Ace of Cakes style cake would be 25+. That's just presentation. Taste quality would be a similar scale and rolled separately. Appraise would be used to determine presentation, but you'd have to make a perception check to properly determine 'taste' quality relevent to previous and/or similar cakes.

I have no further input other than to say, I <3 cake. Even if the cake is a lie.


#10

bons

Feb 13, 2010 7:24:41
If I ever need to bring back a LFR group from a TPK, I'm tempted to have Little Debbie walk into the dungeon and rez them. She can just toss snack cakes to the bad guys and walk on through. Surely they would recognize her evil and insidious power.
#11

pluisjen

Feb 13, 2010 7:32:53
My players use it to bribe me.

Such practices are, of course, highly encouraged by me. Laughing
#12

DoctorBadWolf

Feb 15, 2010 4:39:04
How dare you people!

Cake?


CAKE?

CAKE!?

What kind of communist, long haired, unwashed, patchouli smellin freedom haters prefer cake over pie?


You people disgust me. You are literally the worst kind of people in the world, and are responsible for all of the great atrocities in human history.

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also, the cake is a lie.

*because no one else had done it, and it had to be done. you're welcome.
#13

bons

Feb 15, 2010 8:35:09
Why do all of you hate pie? I disagree with everything you say. You're all lazy cake eaters. Everyone needs to be at the table as I eat my pie or it isn't eating pie. The cook has an obligation to watch me eat the pie he baked.
#14

Jon_of_the_North

Feb 15, 2010 12:02:49
I like to use Cake for the background in some games.  I like "Shadow Stabbing" and "The Guitar Man" for  travel music.  "Sheep go to Heaven"  is occasionally used for fight music.  I also like to replace the name Daria with Narnia when I sing along with "Daria" but that's just me.
#15

greatfrito

Feb 15, 2010 12:22:11
Cake.  Cake never changes.

I like to use Cake for the background in some games.  I like "Shadow Stabbing" and "The Guitar Man" for  travel music.  "Sheep go to Heaven"  is occasionally used for fight music.  I also like to replace the name Daria with Narnia when I sing along with "Daria" but that's just me.


You beat me to it!

As a DM, I have never gotten cake.  Players have brought over a waffle iron, and made waffles (copious amounts of waffles), which was good.  Except they made a massive mess, and left me to clean it, which was bad.

So my cake is made by me, for me.  Which is usually for the best.  Funfetti or German Chocolate for the effin' win, as it were.
#16

lizardmage

Feb 15, 2010 12:47:55

As topic creator I am decreeing that for purposes of this thread and this thread alone that cheesecake is neither Cake nor Pie.  I feel that this declaration will further discussion points on the nature of the cake, the pie and the cheesecake and lead us to understanding how we as D&D players may use them.


The cake may be a lie, the pie may be a falsehood, and the cheesecake may be an uncertainty, but they pale in comparison to the sins of the pudding.  Just saying.

#17

bons

Feb 15, 2010 14:15:45
The cake may be a lie, the pie may be a falsehood, and the cheesecake may be an uncertainty, but they pale in comparison to the sins of the pudding.  Just saying.


Cosby's Law: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a dessert comparison involving pudding approaches 1."

By tradition, since you have brought pudding into the discussion, you have lost the argument.

#18

lizardmage

Feb 15, 2010 14:22:50

Good Sir unless you typed and cited that law wearing a Cosby sweater I must ask it be stricken from the record because everyone knows that Cosby's Law cannot be invoked unless you are properly attired.

By Ceiling Cat you must swear to tell the truth in this matter.

#19

modern_iconoclast

Feb 15, 2010 14:48:39
With my old DM we use to cakewalk through his adventures, does that count?
Cakewalking looks like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQq69kPs8bU
#20

aristus

Feb 15, 2010 14:55:46
     I usually get pies when celebrating peoples' birthdays during game nights.  But my mom makes a mean chocolate gonosh (sp?) cake.  The gonosh (ganosh?) is a layer of chocolate frosting that freezes in the air, so you get a chocolate bar equivalent outside, while the part near the cake stays as chocolate frosting.  Add strawberry filling and let the tastebuds dance in joy.
#21

DoctorBadWolf

Feb 15, 2010 17:14:50
so, cheesecake is neither cake nor pie?

ok, cheesecake wins, in every way.

/thread.
#22

greatfrito

Feb 15, 2010 18:11:11
This thread makes me terribly, terribly hungry.
#23

lundiverse

Feb 15, 2010 23:44:28
Little Debbie.
#24

Hocus-Smokus

Feb 15, 2010 23:52:53
Little Debbie.



I brought up Little Debbie back on page 1, but was ignored.
What are they afraid of?
Does Little Debbie threaten the hard-and-fast world of classic cakes?
I especially like the little Christmas tree ones...nom, nom, nom...
#25

drnick

Feb 15, 2010 23:58:35
ON TOPIC:

I'm eating cake right now and laughing maniacally while I design next weeks dungeon.
#26

DoctorBadWolf

Feb 16, 2010 4:02:50
I once made the players go through a skill challenge involving baking a series of cakes and other goods in order to sneak their weapons into the dining hall, where their mark was located.
#27

deacon_liadon

Feb 16, 2010 11:47:54
Cake in my games is usually confined to birthdays and other celebrations.

Pudding, on the other hand, is an important part of the Once-Off.
#28

lizardmage

Feb 16, 2010 16:06:46
Little Debbie.



I brought up Little Debbie back on page 1, but was ignored.
What are they afraid of?
Does Little Debbie threaten the hard-and-fast world of classic cakes?
I especially like the little Christmas tree ones...nom, nom, nom...



I would count little debbie as cake, and in many cases would get little debbie in a heart beat as they store much easier then a regular cake.  But I myself am partial to little debbie swiss cake rolls and strawberry cake rolls.
#29

scipio

Feb 16, 2010 18:41:33
In my group we have cake at least once a year, since my birthday is on the same day as another player, meaning my gf brings one to the session.  Other than that I've also been known to, in my more offbeat "joke" dungeons, have cake that tries to eat the PCs.
#30

oxybe

Feb 16, 2010 18:50:21

"Ye find yeself in yon dungeon. Ye see a SCROLL. Behind ye scroll is a CAKE. Obvious exits are NORTH, SOUTH and DENNIS."

#31

FitzNighteyes

Feb 16, 2010 19:05:04

I should never have opened this thread ... all I've had today is water.

I'm already planning dinner of cake, pie, cupcakes, and maybe even some cheesecake.  And bacon of course.

#32

lizardmage

Feb 16, 2010 20:00:55
And that FitzNighteyes was your undoing. 
#33

bons

Feb 16, 2010 21:32:56
I hereby degree that he who lands the killing blow on the gelatinous cube gets to eat the jello shot that represented it.

All strikers need to hand over their keys before playing "Cosby's Deathtrap of Many Colors".
#34

sobchak

Feb 16, 2010 21:51:25
Have you all considered starting a hardcore cake optimization thread?  It could focus on CPB (calories per bite), and consider only the very best ingredients.

Brownies.  I have seen the baking of brownies translate in to 15 EXP for the purpose of leveling up.

If this becomes a CO thread, someone will have to hit me in the face with a pie for mentioning brownies, which is not cake.
#35

Hippolyte

Feb 17, 2010 4:17:08
Do not forget doughnuts, of which there are three important varieties:

1) Krispy Kreme style

2) Tim Hortons/Dunkin Donuts style

3) Homemade deep fried cake style

Doughnuts are much easier to eat while rolling dice and shuffling power cards. Smile
#36

lizardmage

Feb 17, 2010 7:00:54
Doughnuts are the old washed up and used hmmmmm what's the polite way of saying this oh I know ! Servants of AphroditeLaughing.  Cheesecake is the very best of her servantsLaughing and Cake is the one that we can all afford Laughing.


Sorry just started reading David Gemmell's Troy series and he makes use of "Servants of Aphrodite" often when dealing with the daughter of one of these servants.
#37

bons

Feb 17, 2010 9:25:44
While I agree with you, I do loves me a bacon doughnut.
#38

lizardmage

Feb 17, 2010 15:58:48
While they say bacon makes everything better, I am not so sure about the doughnut, but I won't judge until I am force fed a bacon covered doughnut.

#39

Lord_Ventnor

Feb 17, 2010 21:46:14
Alright, interesting moral dilemma to place in front of your players at some point: drop a cake that was warped by the Far Realm in front of them.

On one hand, it is a horrible, tentacled aberration, a crime against reality that would surely warp anyone who ate it into a mindless horror whose only wish would be the total annihilation of the universe in an attempt to end their wretched existence.

On the other hand, it looks really, really delicious. And has a cherry on top. 
#40

DoctorBadWolf

Feb 17, 2010 21:52:17
Alright, interesting moral dilemma to place in front of your players at some point: drop a cake that was warped by the Far Realm in front of them.

On one hand, it is a horrible, tentacled aberration, a crime against reality that would surely warp anyone who ate it into a mindless horror whose only wish would be the total annihilation of the universe in an attempt to end their wretched existence.

On the other hand, it looks really, really delicious. And has a cherry on top. 



anyone who doesn't immediately eat it is a communist, clearly.
#41

Hocus-Smokus

Feb 17, 2010 22:01:14
Alright, interesting moral dilemma to place in front of your players at some point: drop a cake that was warped by the Far Realm in front of them.

On one hand, it is a horrible, tentacled aberration, a crime against reality that would surely warp anyone who ate it into a mindless horror whose only wish would be the total annihilation of the universe in an attempt to end their wretched existence.

On the other hand, it looks really, really delicious. And has a cherry on top. 



anyone who doesn't immediately eat it is a communist, clearly.



And if I didn't eat it, I'd always wonder if it was any good or not. It would eventually drive me mad...so I might as well take the plunge and dig in.
#42

lizardmage

Feb 18, 2010 6:51:18
Oh good sir I could resist it.  Not because it's from the Far Realm and because it's evil, but really because it has a cherry on top.  Now if someone from the party took the cherry then I am fine. Still would probably resist it, because it is ill mannered to have dessert before dinner.
#43

Madfox11

Feb 18, 2010 7:22:29
Oh good sir I could resist it.  Not because it's from the Far Realm and because it's evil, but really because it has a cherry on top.  Now if someone from the party took the cherry then I am fine. Still would probably resist it, because it is ill mannered to have dessert before dinner.


You can always start with the mashed potatos... (aka gibbering mouther)
#44

DoctorBadWolf

Feb 18, 2010 14:54:57
Alright, interesting moral dilemma to place in front of your players at some point: drop a cake that was warped by the Far Realm in front of them.

On one hand, it is a horrible, tentacled aberration, a crime against reality that would surely warp anyone who ate it into a mindless horror whose only wish would be the total annihilation of the universe in an attempt to end their wretched existence.

On the other hand, it looks really, really delicious. And has a cherry on top. 



anyone who doesn't immediately eat it is a communist, clearly.



And if I didn't eat it, I'd always wonder if it was any good or not. It would eventually drive me mad...so I might as well take the plunge and dig in.




exactly...wait...the F***?

are we agreeing on something?

COMMUNISM!


:D
#45

lizardmage

Feb 18, 2010 14:57:09
Can you clarify the type of communism? Like the cool Soviet Union style Communism or the poser Chinese Communism Capitilist crowd, cause that makes all the difference.
#46

_psionx_

Feb 18, 2010 15:25:44

Cake is one of the 4 major food groups, right alongside bacon, Mountain Dew, and bacon.





You, sir, have just won the internet. I salute you!



Unfortunately, I cannot have bacon but I understand where you are coming from with the food groups. For me however it is as follows: Fast Food>Dessert Food (depends on desert)>Restaurant Food>Junk Food>Everything Else.

Since cake is under dessert food, I can definitely see it's importance in a balanced diet. Also the guy who said cake is not a food is committing heresy and should be dealt with as dictated by the EMPEROR OF MANKIND on matters pertaining to heresy.
#47

DoctorBadWolf

Feb 19, 2010 6:41:07
Can you clarify the type of communism? Like the cool Soviet Union style Communism or the poser Chinese Communism Capitilist crowd, cause that makes all the difference.



Definately the more stylish, Russian form of Communism.
While the Asian Communists have awesome bunny-hop picture floating around the internet, nothing will ever beat the sexy Soviet lady spy trope.
The Rus just got style, man.

Ever.
#48

Guroth_the_Forsaken

Feb 19, 2010 11:00:22

But really I am one of the few people who hate cake.  I just dont see it as food. 



Oh. My. God.
How dare you, sir?
Cake is one of the 4 major food groups, right alongside bacon, Mountain Dew, and bacon.



Laughing  FTW!!1!
#49

Guroth_the_Forsaken

Feb 19, 2010 11:07:05
While they say bacon makes everything better, I am not so sure about the doughnut



I know when I cut myself I often substitute bacon for band aids.

#50

bons

Feb 19, 2010 12:35:45
I know when I cut myself I often substitute bacon for band aids.

What do you use on the bite marks afterwards?

#51

dragom

Feb 19, 2010 12:38:24
I know when I cut myself I often substitute bacon for band aids.

What do you use on the bite marks afterwards?



More bacon I would assume...  though that would turn into a horrible yet tasty cycle.