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| #1vestaxJan 01, 2010 19:43:11 | I heard awhile ago about some changes made to Cinderella that were in the original book. They talked about how the women would mutilate their feet in an attempt to get into the glass slipper. I was wondering out of boredom if there is somewhere online that shows what changes Disney made to these stories to make them more "kid friendly". |
| #2KillerGMJan 01, 2010 20:43:15 | Cinderella has many versions, so it's hard to pin down what, exactly, Disney changed - for example, the cutting of the feet appeared in the Grimm version, but not in the Perrault version. In the Grimm version, it was a wishing tree, and in Perrault's it was the fairy godmother, so it seems that Disney simply followed the other version. There are grim (ah-ha!) versions of many fairy tales, and you'd probably have to research each one to find out the different variations and themes. ![]() |
| #3pluisjenJan 02, 2010 5:02:23 | They made some big changes to Quasimodo (the hunchback of the Notre Dame, or whatever name it was launched under in English) too, as well as in Tarzan... read the original works some day ![]() It's the best way to find those things. They probably changed all of them at least a bit. |
| #4ian.thomsonJan 02, 2010 10:15:06 | I don't know that many of the changes were necessarily made by Disney. The Victorian Era really messed up fairy tales. Jack and Jill being eaten by the witch was too gruesome so people changed it (completely countering the point of "don't go into strange houses.") Neil Gaiman also brings up an older version of Little Red Riding Hood in the Sandman - Hood gets eaten by the wolf, the end. No woodsman. The Bloody Chamber by Angela Carter (who did a translation of Perrault) kinda takes some of the old fairy tales and drops them in a slightly more modern era (but you can still start them with "once upon a time.") There's some complex feminism in there (neither "all men are evil" nor "let's make all women into men"), but since fairy tales were originally told by women, the book is a good example of what fairy tales were like for the people that first heard them. |
| #5mbelcherJan 02, 2010 13:18:40 | I don't know that many of the changes were necessarily made by Disney. The Victorian Era really messed up fairy tales. Jack and Jill being eaten by the witch was too gruesome so people changed it (completely countering the point of "don't go into strange houses.") Hansel and Gretel perhaps? ![]() I think you'd have to look up each individual story and watch the Disney version to see the differences. |
| #6idhrinielJan 02, 2010 13:55:26 | The original Hunchback of Notre Dame by Victor Hugo is dark. Very dark. My aunt's read it. |
| #7ian.thomsonJan 02, 2010 14:47:41 | I don't know that many of the changes were necessarily made by Disney. The Victorian Era really messed up fairy tales. Jack and Jill being eaten by the witch was too gruesome so people changed it (completely countering the point of "don't go into strange houses.") This is why I shouldn't write sober. |
| #8Mad_JackJan 03, 2010 1:46:19 | Isn't it Sleeping Beauty where, in the original version, she kills the witch that cursed her by slamming her head in a trunk and decapitating her? |
| #9pigknightJan 03, 2010 13:18:43 | Have you seen The Hunchback that Disney made? It's the darkest Disney movie ever. EVER! |
| #10idhrinielJan 03, 2010 13:38:41 | Have you seen The Hunchback that Disney made? It's the darkest Disney movie ever. EVER! I'd have to agree: it is fairly dark. Although some bits of PotC are somewhat dark. But Hunchback (which I used to call The Back when I was little) is probably the darkest animated film that Disney's done. Considering the whole Hell/damnation talk. Tim Burton's version of Alice in Wonderland is bound to be eccentric/dark. I mean, it's Burton. Be ready to have your Disney interpretation shattered. |
| #11pbnJan 03, 2010 14:10:17 | Bah - if you want definite Non-Disney, you should check out Anne Rice's take on Sleeping Beauty. |
| #12vestaxJan 03, 2010 17:04:47 | It is actually pretty obvious that most of these stories had a much darker and sinister past when they were originally told. |
| #13Ragnar_LodbrokJan 03, 2010 17:47:24 | Have you seen The Hunchback that Disney made? It's the darkest Disney movie ever. EVER! The original story is even more so. |
| #14ellorinJan 03, 2010 17:52:23 | Bah - if you want definite Non-Disney, you should check out Anne Rice's take on Sleeping Beauty. I didn't know there was such a version. Very interesting. If it's anything like Neil Gaiman's chilling version of Snowhite, I'm sure of it. |
| #15pbnJan 03, 2010 18:04:35 | I didn't know there was such a version. Very interesting. If it's anything like Neil Gaiman's chilling version of Snowhite, I'm sure of it. Under the pseudonym of A. N. Roquelaire (link to wiki article, as it doesn't go into TOO much detail, so should be safe to post without the standard CoC warnings, re age and maturity) |
| #16AbsintaJan 03, 2010 19:18:28 | Hercules murdered his first wife( due to temporary insanity brought about by divine snit-fit) and got murdered( or accidentally poisoned) by the second one. Pretty sure Disney left that out of their version. ;) |
| #17sallaJan 03, 2010 19:20:11 | Hercules murdered his first wife( due to temporary insanity brought about by divine snit-fit) and got murdered( or accidentally poisoned) by the second one. Pretty sure Disney left that out of their version. ;) As well they should have. |
| #18EscherEnigmaJan 03, 2010 19:22:11 | It'd be easier to say what Disney got right with Hercules then what they got wrong. |
| #19ellorinJan 03, 2010 19:29:18 | It'd be easier to say what Disney got right with Hercules then what they got wrong. Oh don't get me started (to be fair, it's not as if the movie was not enjoyable. It simply was even more distant to the original source than the Jungle Book)... |
| #20Dragon9Jan 03, 2010 22:30:30 | It is actually pretty obvious that most of these stories had a much darker and sinister past when they were originally told. Many fo them were quite bawdy as well. You don't really think the prince climbed Rapunzel's hair just to sit and talk with her, right? ![]() |
| #21KlirshonJan 03, 2010 22:53:47 |
I thought he was a barber and was offering her a discount haircut... maybe I should throw my mind back into the gutter... |