Comic Books: Why We Love the Cape

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#1

d11

Sep 10, 2009 10:30:15

Ever since I was a young lad, the characters of comic books always enthralled me;the adventure, the action, and the imagination; everything about them was amazing.  I know I'm not the only one here who has a deep love for the medium, so this is where we discuss all the different aspects of comic books and the characters that populate them!


 

#2

ellorin

Sep 10, 2009 10:47:01

As a matter of fact, I don't like superheroes with capes. They only work for Batman and Dr Doom. The rest look a little foolish with that thing on.

#3

jhonesy

Sep 10, 2009 10:51:16

Everyone knows that a REAL super hero only wears a speedo. All those other flakes? Yeah, they use the capes, masks and everything else to cover up the fact that they have poor body-image issues.


Real Super Heros wear speedos!

#4

d11

Sep 10, 2009 10:58:09

Ha ha I more or less meant "Capes" as a generic referance to superheroes in general (which are only a part of comics I suppose).


For example: Spider-Man is a fantastic superhero and he does not have a cape.


Also, Pulp and Noir are acceptable topics of discussion (and Manga I guess).


I'll start us off: What do you think the most important aspect of writing a good superhero story is?  The story? Character development? Art? Action?  *gasp* Logical continuity!?


For me it personally it is a tie between art and character development, I've always been of the thought that a great picture can express a situation far better than any amount of convoluted verbatim, and I've forgiven may heroes over the years for lame stories as long as it shows off the deeper parts of a person's psyche (like the aftermath issues of Captain America's death really showed Spider-Man was still trying to cope with being a "big tim" hero)

#5

EscherEnigma

Sep 10, 2009 11:24:19

Emma manages to pull the cape off well [link].


Anyway, the thing that will get me to pick up a new comic is the story and/or concept.


What gets me to keep reading is character development.  I don't care how fabulous your story is, if the characters aren't interesting and changing then I'm going to drop it.


Anyway, a bit of a snapshot of American (non-web) comics that I've been collecting recently...


Fables (up to volume 8)
Y: the Last Man (up to volume 5 or 6)
Runaways (not sure on the volume number, but up through Secret Invasion)
Young Avengers (the first big volume, Civil War and Secret Invasion)
Ultimate X-Men (up through Ultimatum, though I've been very disappointed with the last few volumes.)


Ones I've read (and liked) recently (but don't own) inlcude


Astonishing X-Men (volumes 1-4)
Invincible (big hardback volumes 1-3 I think)
Impulse (most of it)
Young Justice (most of it up till Secret went psycho.)
Robin (smatterings, mostly before that Gotham Civil War event a few years back that crossed all the bat-lines over in a big mess)


Anyway.  I like comics as a medium, and think a lot of great stories have been told through them.

#6

d11

Sep 10, 2009 11:32:58

I've been reading Deadpool recentely (Cable/Deadpool up to Suicide Kings)


I also have to thank Arkham Asylum for reminding me that the Bat-mythos is fantastic, and as such, I read Joker and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth yesterday.

#7

zombie_babies

Sep 10, 2009 12:18:02

Not totally on topic, but sort of related:


I just learned today what it means to 'Superman' a *ahem* girl*.  Soulja Boy uses a different term - one that doubles as the name of a garden implement - but you get the idea.  Well, anyway, color me surprised.  If I had any idea what that was all about, it would have certainly changed my opinion of the artist in question.  I think I would have hated him slightly less.  I mean, he's awful.  Simply awful.  But this?  It's funny on such a juvenile level that I can't help but chuckle.  A girl, a sheet, some fun and you get ... Supaman.  Heh. 


*No, I guess it wouldn't need to be a gal.  If you prefer men and would like to humiliate yours in a similar fashion, by all means go for it.

#8

EscherEnigma

Sep 10, 2009 15:52:08


Not totally on topic, but sort of related:


I just learned today what it means to 'Superman' a *ahem* girl*.  Soulja Boy uses a different term - one that doubles as the name of a garden implement - but you get the idea.  Well, anyway, color me surprised.  If I had any idea what that was all about, it would have certainly changed my opinion of the artist in question.  I think I would have hated him slightly less.  I mean, he's awful.  Simply awful.  But this?  It's funny on such a juvenile level that I can't help but chuckle.  A girl, a sheet, some fun and you get ... Supaman.  Heh. 


*No, I guess it wouldn't need to be a gal.  If you prefer men and would like to humiliate yours in a similar fashion, by all means go for it.




... I have no idea what you're talking about.
#9

zombie_babies

Sep 10, 2009 15:54:00


... I have no idea what you're talking about.





There's no real way for me to elaborate.  CoC and all.  She's a harsh mistress, but one I've learned to respect.  Or else.
#10

EscherEnigma

Sep 10, 2009 16:05:39

... so I went to Urban Dictionary and... ew.  And you heard that in a (I'm guessing here) song?  There's somethin' wrong with that.

#11

zombie_babies

Sep 10, 2009 16:14:16


... so I went to Urban Dictionary and... ew.  And you heard that in a (I'm guessing here) song?  There's somethin' wrong with that.





Well, I had heard it in that terrible excuse for a song a million times at the bar.  Until today, however, I had no clue what the hell that delinquent was talking about.  It was dissected on a satellite radio show this morning.  I think it's amusing. 
#12

RUMPLESTIX

Sep 10, 2009 21:54:38

If it is the song that I am thinking of it even had a popular stupid little dance to go along with it.


This will give a good idea of what the dance is and this is something everyone should see at least once.

#13

ADHadh

Sep 11, 2009 5:32:44

...let's get back to comic books, shall we?


There was an interesting argument in Shortpacked! between Ethan and the new guy: shortpacked.com/d/20090903.html


 


What are your feelings about this? Personally I like Spider-Man more than Batman, but the bat has certainly some of the most memorable foes in modern pop-culture.

#14

zombie_babies

Sep 11, 2009 8:09:58


If it is the song that I am thinking of it even had a popular stupid little dance to go along with it.


This will give a good idea of what the dance is and this is something everyone should see at least once.





That be the song alright.  I haven't the first clue as to why any gal with knowledge of what it all means would dance to it, but hey, I never said I understood that whole scene.  And I don't.  I just don't. 
#15

EscherEnigma

Sep 11, 2009 10:17:47

Hrm... it seems kinda odd, but I think a "rogues gallery" is something that new comics aren't really doing.  Take Invincible for example... while there are a few repeating villains, their roles in the story are much more integrated into the greater whole then many of the older comics "Rogue's Galleries" in which recurring villains just kinda appeared and went away for a while.


Or to put it another way... while most of Spiderman's "rogue's gallery" may feel like Spiderman is an important part of their lives, most of them are a very minor part of Spiderman's life and most don't have a lasting impact.  And so his "rogue's gallery" is full of a handful of villains that left a significant impact on his life whle being full of "fluff" or "filler" enemies.


Compare Runaways in which the only recurring villains (that is, their parents) are a major part of the story and are a huge impact on the characters.  WHile there are other minor villains (that vampire dude, the random thugs they deal with at the beginning of story arcs, so-on) they tend to not be recurring.  So Runaways doesn't really have a "rogue's gallery" like Batman or Spiderman does.


I dunno... am I making sense here, or am I just barking up a random tree hoping for something neat to fall out?


As a side note, I prefer Batman's rogue's gallery, but that's just cause their insanity makes them so much more interesting.  You know a man's villains have gotten character development when they can consistenly write stories centered around the villains (even Riddler's gotten one!)