An old priest was given gifts by natives containing treasures from all over the world supposedly found in a cave. Its a long read, but you can scroll down to the pictures to get an idea of what it is. Proof of intercontinental trade in ancient time?
Ancient intercontinental trade Pffft...
Now back to the topic at hand. Artifacts found in a cave in south america brought to a priest as gifts. Which come from around the world...
See this is why you can't have nice debates. You go off topic and talk about reptilians and illuminati in any thread I post in. I have never mentioned the reptialians or the illuminati. That's all on ya'll.
Now back to the topic at hand. Artifacts found in a cave in south america brought to a priest as gifts. Which come from around the world...
I've already answered your question.
An old priest was given gifts by natives containing treasures from all over the world supposedly found in a cave. Its a long read, but you can scroll down to the pictures to get an idea of what it is. Proof of intercontinental trade in ancient time?
Ancient intercontinental trade Pffft...
See this is why you can't have nice debates. You go off topic and talk about reptilians and illuminati in any thread I post in. I have never mentioned the reptialians or the illuminati. That's all on ya'll.
Now back to the topic at hand. Artifacts found in a cave in south america brought to a priest as gifts. Which come from around the world...
There is no debate to have. There wasn't any intercontinental trade between the Americas and Eurasia-Africa in ancient times.
Then how did egyptian and middle eastern artifacts get to south america?
See this is why you can't have nice debates. You go off topic and talk about reptilians and illuminati in any thread I post in. I have never mentioned the reptialians or the illuminati. That's all on ya'll.
Now back to the topic at hand. Artifacts found in a cave in south america brought to a priest as gifts. Which come from around the world...
There is no debate to have. There wasn't any intercontinental trade between the Americas and Eurasia-Africa in ancient times.
Then how did egyptian and middle eastern artifacts get to south america?
Do I really need to explain it to you for a third time?
Then how did egyptian and middle eastern artifacts get to south america?
FedEx.
Yes, natives that were dirt poor, saved all their money up and bought expensive gold artifacts from around the world and then donated them to this 'nice' priest. Yep, that explains it...
Who says it really was natives behind this? Or that they aren't lying? Or that the donation actually happened and it wasn't the priest who collected this stuff and invented the story? Who says any of this story is true?
For a guy who thinks doctors want to keep people sick to make more money, you are very trust worthy on certain issues.
Ok, so the dirt poor priest bought the stuff on E-Bay... yeah still not buying it. How about a real explanation and please take a moment to actually look at the pictures in the PDF and possibly read up on the time period and the circumstances around it...
See this is why you can't have nice debates. You go off topic and talk about reptilians and illuminati in any thread I post in. I have never mentioned the reptialians or the illuminati.
What kind of conspiracy nut are you then? A blind and dull one it seems.
See this is why you can't have nice debates. You go off topic and talk about reptilians and illuminati in any thread I post in. I have never mentioned the reptialians or the illuminati.
What kind of conspiracy nut are you then? A blind and dull one it seems.
Or prehaps I'm not a conspiracy nut at all. Perhaps I just don't trust known liers and blindly take everything on faith like most people. Perhaps I require some evidence and proof of things before I blindly trust them.
As to how do I know about the guy I saw the video that someone recorded of him showing the artifacts off to a reporter.
Or prehaps I'm not a conspiracy nut at all. Perhaps I just don't trust known liers and blindly take everything on faith like most people. Perhaps I require some evidence and proof of things before I blindly trust them.
Aren't you the one that's always linking Allex Jones articles?
Or prehaps I'm not a conspiracy nut at all. Perhaps I just don't trust known liers and blindly take everything on faith like most people. Perhaps I require some evidence and proof of things before I blindly trust them.
Aren't you the one that's always linking Allex Jones articles?
Alex Jones usually has good citations to back up his articles. When he doesn't I usually ignore his stuff...
I do my own research too on the articles they post over there...
Or prehaps I'm not a conspiracy nut at all. Perhaps I just don't trust known liers and blindly take everything on faith like most people. Perhaps I require some evidence and proof of things before I blindly trust them.
Aren't you the one that's always linking Allex Jones articles?
Alex Jones usually has good citations to back up his articles. When he doesn't I usually ignore his stuff...
I do my own research too on the articles they post over there...
Dude, that was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
Unfortunately, many of the artifacts were destroyed in a fire in 1962 or later when the church was restored. Also, many were lost or wound up with treasure hunters. After Father Crespi passed away, the remaining artifacts of the original collection were removed and made inaccessible to the public. Some may still be stored in the cellar archive of the church Maria Auxiliadora.
The age and origin of these items is still unknown today. Father Crespi never tried to classify them. The picture motifs are strange, their meaning not understood. These objects show the pictures of an unknown culture.
So according to this source, the objects weren't classified, thus they aren't actual proof of intercontinental trade, and since they seemed to have disappeared, there's no way of knowing.
Your link wasn't working, but from some of what I found...
Unfortunately, many of the artifacts were destroyed in a fire in 1962 or later when the church was restored. Also, many were lost or wound up with treasure hunters. After Father Crespi passed away, the remaining artifacts of the original collection were removed and made inaccessible to the public. Some may still be stored in the cellar archive of the church Maria Auxiliadora.
The age and origin of these items is still unknown today. Father Crespi never tried to classify them. The picture motifs are strange, their meaning not understood. These objects show the pictures of an unknown culture.
So according to this source, the objects weren't classified, thus they aren't actual proof of intercontinental trade, and since they seemed to have disappeared, there's no way of knowing.
Yeah, strange that they would all just disappear like that, after he died, after they were photographed and video recorded...
Or prehaps I'm not a conspiracy nut at all. Perhaps I just don't trust known liers and blindly take everything on faith like most people. Perhaps I require some evidence and proof of things before I blindly trust them.
Aren't you the one that's always linking Allex Jones articles?
Alex Jones usually has good citations to back up his articles. When he doesn't I usually ignore his stuff...
I do my own research too on the articles they post over there...
Dude, that was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
Its not polite to laugh at your own ignorance...
He does cite sources for nearly every article, that you don't know that just shows what you don't know...
Or prehaps I'm not a conspiracy nut at all. Perhaps I just don't trust known liers and blindly take everything on faith like most people. Perhaps I require some evidence and proof of things before I blindly trust them.
Aren't you the one that's always linking Allex Jones articles?
Alex Jones usually has good citations to back up his articles. When he doesn't I usually ignore his stuff...
I do my own research too on the articles they post over there...
Dude, that was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
Its not polite to laugh at your own ignorance...
He does cite sources for nearly every article, that you don't know that just shows what you don't know...
"Sources," right. I got yah. /Wink-wink, nudge-nudge. ;)
Or prehaps I'm not a conspiracy nut at all. Perhaps I just don't trust known liers and blindly take everything on faith like most people. Perhaps I require some evidence and proof of things before I blindly trust them.
Aren't you the one that's always linking Allex Jones articles?
Alex Jones usually has good citations to back up his articles. When he doesn't I usually ignore his stuff...
I do my own research too on the articles they post over there...
Dude, that was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
Its not polite to laugh at your own ignorance...
He does cite sources for nearly every article, that you don't know that just shows what you don't know...
"Sources," right. I got yah. /Wink-wink, nudge-nudge. ;)
Yeah, this article has around 7 sources from the Washingtons Blog to Bloomberg. First article I clicked today. It helps if you don't discount everything because someone else shouted "conspiracy theory" at the top of their lungs. It would be best if you actually, I don't know, read the articles and make up your own mind instead of spouting the same drivel you hear from the TV...
Yeah, this article has around 7 sources from the Washingtons Blog to Bloomberg. First article I clicked today. It helps if you don't discount everything because someone else shouted "conspiracy theory" at the top of their lungs. It would be best if you actually, I don't know, read the articles and make up your own mind instead of spouting the same drivel you hear from the TV...
Except that it's always Alex Jone the one that is shouting "conspiracy theory" at the top of his lungs.
Yeah, this article has around 7 sources from the Washingtons Blog to Bloomberg. First article I clicked today. It helps if you don't discount everything because someone else shouted "conspiracy theory" at the top of their lungs. It would be best if you actually, I don't know, read the articles and make up your own mind instead of spouting the same drivel you hear from the TV...
Except that it's always Alex Jone the one that is shouting "conspiracy theory" at the top of his lungs.
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
You double check facts? Shouldn't you be double checking the claims made to determine if they are facts? I get the feeling you don't know what a fact is. ;)
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
How so? Name some of his conspiracy theories and predictions that have come true. I seem to recall talk of martial law being implemented around elections. I've checked a lot of his "facts" and found them to not be facts at all. So share something with us. Show us a time where he was right on the mark.
Yeah, strange that they would all just disappear like that, after he died, after they were photographed and video recorded...
Nice way to deflect what I said.
First of all, they didn't all disappear right after he died, nor are they believed to have all disappeared to the same place.
Two, the artifacts disappearing doesn't prove your case. There's lots of reasons for them to disappear (and some were said to have been sold or stolen), like the fact that they are probably valuable. So while it may be strange, it does nothing to support your claims.
Three, it doesn't change the fact that the sources I found suggested that they had not been classified and in fact were of unknown origin, which runs counter to your claim that these were identified as coming from different continents.
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
You double check facts? Shouldn't you be double checking the claims made to determine if they are facts? I get the feeling you don't know what a fact is. ;)
I get the feeling you don't either. If it can't be checked its not a fact. If it can be checked it doesn't hurt to do that.
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
How so? Name some of his conspiracy theories and predictions that have come true. I seem to recall talk of martial law being implemented around elections. I've checked a lot of his "facts" and found them to not be facts at all. So share something with us. Show us a time where he was right on the mark.
He only said if Obama lost or the storms hit us hard they would do that. See sometimes you have to pay attention to what he says...
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
You double check facts? Shouldn't you be double checking the claims made to determine if they are facts? I get the feeling you don't know what a fact is. ;)
I get the feeling you don't either. If it can't be checked its not a fact. If it can be checked it doesn't hurt to do that.
Except you make the assumption that it isa fact even before you check it. Thus you have a biased point of view about that claim.
Yeah, strange that they would all just disappear like that, after he died, after they were photographed and video recorded...
Nice way to deflect what I said.
First of all, they didn't all disappear right after he died, nor are they believed to have all disappeared to the same place.
Two, the artifacts disappearing doesn't prove your case. There's lots of reasons for them to disappear (and some were said to have been sold or stolen), like the fact that they are probably valuable. So while it may be strange, it does nothing to support your claims.
Three, it doesn't change the fact that the sources I found suggested that they had not been classified and in fact were of unknown origin, which runs counter to your claim that these were identified as coming from different continents.
Several archaeologists visited him and examined his collections. They stated that much of it looked to have come from different parts of the world. I don't know if any kind of carbon dating or anything like that was done, but its likely that they were...
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
You double check facts? Shouldn't you be double checking the claims made to determine if they are facts? I get the feeling you don't know what a fact is. ;)
I get the feeling you don't either. If it can't be checked its not a fact. If it can be checked it doesn't hurt to do that.
Except you make the assumption that it isa fact even before you check it. Thus you have a biased point of view about that claim.
Yes, and then I check it and if it isn't a fact I no longer think its a fact. See how that works...
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
How so? Name some of his conspiracy theories and predictions that have come true. I seem to recall talk of martial law being implemented around elections. I've checked a lot of his "facts" and found them to not be facts at all. So share something with us. Show us a time where he was right on the mark.
He only said if Obama lost or the storms hit us hard they would do that. See sometimes you have to pay attention to what he says...
I'm sure the people affected by hurricane Sandy thought it was a mild weather occurance that brought a refreshing wind and light showers.
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
How so? Name some of his conspiracy theories and predictions that have come true. I seem to recall talk of martial law being implemented around elections. I've checked a lot of his "facts" and found them to not be facts at all. So share something with us. Show us a time where he was right on the mark.
He only said if Obama lost or the storms hit us hard they would do that. See sometimes you have to pay attention to what he says...
I'm sure the people affected by hurricane Sandy thought it was a mild weather occurance that brought a refreshing wind and light showers.
No, but they got to vote by email, so thats ok...
No, but they got to vote by email, so thats ok...
So what you are saying is that Alex Jones was wrong? Yeah, I can agree with that. ;)
No, but they got to vote by email, so thats ok...
So what you are saying is that Alex Jones was wrong? Yeah, I can agree with that. ;)
No he said they might try it. He didn't say they would absolutely do it. Just keep on misconstruing what everyone has said eventually everyone might get tired of arguing with you and go away...
No, but they got to vote by email, so thats ok...
So what you are saying is that Alex Jones was wrong? Yeah, I can agree with that. ;)
No he said they might try it. He didn't say they would absolutely do it. Just keep on misconstruing what everyone has said eventually everyone might get tired of arguing with you and go away...
Ah... I see, so if I said that Aliens were responsible for the crespi artifacts making it across the ocean, you'd be fine with that because I didn't say aliens definitely were responsible?
Looks like a old chain letter. Burn it.
Already did. He sent me this today so I figured I didn't need to hold onto that other thing anwyay.
No, but they got to vote by email, so thats ok...
So what you are saying is that Alex Jones was wrong? Yeah, I can agree with that. ;)
No he said they might try it. He didn't say they would absolutely do it. Just keep on misconstruing what everyone has said eventually everyone might get tired of arguing with you and go away...
Ah... I see, so if I said that Aliens were responsible for the crespi artifacts making it across the ocean, you'd be fine with that because I didn't say aliens definitely were responsible?
I would want some proof and at least not have it be disproved easily...
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Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
How so? Name some of his conspiracy theories and predictions that have come true. I seem to recall talk of martial law being implemented around elections. I've checked a lot of his "facts" and found them to not be facts at all. So share something with us. Show us a time where he was right on the mark.
He only said if Obama lost or the storms hit us hard they would do that. See sometimes you have to pay attention to what he says...
I'm sure the people affected by hurricane Sandy thought it was a mild weather occurance that brought a refreshing wind and light showers.
No, but they got to vote by email, so thats ok...
So you think Sandy was made by the military to help Obama commit fraud during the election to turn a blue state... blue?
Yep, that's exactly what I said... oh wait no its nothing like what I said... See this is why we can't have nice discussions around here. Everyone is so busy making insulting, stereotypical, disparaging, ridiculing quips that no one bothers to respond to what is actually said...
Yeah, strange that they would all just disappear like that, after he died, after they were photographed and video recorded...
Nice way to deflect what I said.
First of all, they didn't all disappear right after he died, nor are they believed to have all disappeared to the same place.
Two, the artifacts disappearing doesn't prove your case. There's lots of reasons for them to disappear (and some were said to have been sold or stolen), like the fact that they are probably valuable. So while it may be strange, it does nothing to support your claims.
Three, it doesn't change the fact that the sources I found suggested that they had not been classified and in fact were of unknown origin, which runs counter to your claim that these were identified as coming from different continents.
Several archaeologists visited him and examined his collections. They stated that much of it looked to have come from different parts of the world. I don't know if any kind of carbon dating or anything like that was done, but its likely that they were...
Yup.
It's true.
Facts are things that are likely.
Actually no. He shouts facts and then comes to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions and I double check the facts. However most of the time he's pretty close to the mark...
How so? Name some of his conspiracy theories and predictions that have come true. I seem to recall talk of martial law being implemented around elections. I've checked a lot of his "facts" and found them to not be facts at all. So share something with us. Show us a time where he was right on the mark.
He only said if Obama lost or the storms hit us hard they would do that. See sometimes you have to pay attention to what he says...
I'm sure the people affected by hurricane Sandy thought it was a mild weather occurance that brought a refreshing wind and light showers.
No, but they got to vote by email, so thats ok...
So you think Sandy was made by the military to help Obama commit fraud during the election to turn a blue state... blue?
Yep, that's exactly what I said... oh wait no its nothing like what I said... See this is why we can't have nice discussions around here. Everyone is so busy making insulting, stereotypical, disparaging, ridiculing quips that no one bothers to respond to what is actually said...
People are responding to what is said.
And giving it the ridicule and insults it deserves.
Don't get rile sugar, just because most of us don't buy what you're selling.
I don't know what is it?
The note attached said 'Qumran scroll' or something but it doesn't matter. I burnt that thing. I did keep the Inca mask, though. I mean, gold, right? There ain't gonna be no value to cash soon enough. If dood wants to keep sending me gold from back in the day, I'm a' gonna keep right on hoardin' it. ;)
But you did say that the military weaponized weather back in the 60-70s and that SAndy could be such an weapon. (you had links full of "facts" about that)
You do imply that voting by email is to facilitate fraud to get Obama reelected.
New Jersey is a blue state.
Where did I go wrong?
Well, for starters, you sound surprisingly sane.