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| #1JS20Feb 15, 2013 3:22:21 | I am not sure if this is the right forum, but I would like to ask a question about D&D and other similar fantasy novels. I have recently bought and am reading the novel "Swordmage," and I like the idea of novels focusing on specific classes. Are there any D and D novels that focus on any of the following classes: Artificer Monk Runepriest Assassin Battlemind Bladesinger Paladin Bard Cleric Avenger Warlord Thanks for any info you can give me! |
| #2The_SilverswordFeb 15, 2013 3:29:22 | Definitely the wrong forum, this is the Off-Topic Tavern, D&D is a forbidden subject around these parts, that being said, Wrath of the Blue Lady by Mel Odom features a monk, aside from that one I cant really think of anyother that really focused on a particular class, but im sure theyre out there. |
| #3Robin_HoodlumFeb 15, 2013 6:27:32 | Definitely the wrong forum, this is the Off-Topic Tavern, D&D is a forbidden subject around these parts, yup |
| #4JS20Feb 15, 2013 6:53:42 | I think I detect sarcasm, but if not, I apologize for the wrong forum. Which forum would be the more appropriate one? |
| #5SadClownIsSadFeb 15, 2013 6:59:36 | There is no such thing as sarcasm in the OTT. Never speak of D&D around these parts, you will be hated, despised, and maybe reported. Try the D&D General forums, or the specific campaigns sub-forums (particularily FR, lots of novels based on FR). And please use D&D, not D and D. |
| #6Robin_HoodlumFeb 15, 2013 7:23:54 | I think I detect sarcasm, Your sarcasm meter needs calibrated. |
| #7draco1119Feb 15, 2013 7:51:06 | Are there any D and D novels that focus on any of the following classes: Cleric is easy: The Cleric Quintet by Salvatore (also stars a monk) Assassin, you have a couple choices: The Crystal Shard & its sequesls (also by Salvatore) in FR, or the Blade of the Flame trilogy (also a cleric) in Eberron For Bladesinger, I think there was mention of a couple in Evermeet, but I don't think a book was dedicated to them Bard & Paladin: the Azure Bonds trilogy Psion: Bassingthwaite has two trilogies set in Eberron; the first has a psion as one of the main characters I'm guessing the rest of the classes are 4E-specific, and I don't deal with that trash. |
| #8zombie_babiesFeb 15, 2013 9:12:48 | Speaking of not dealing with trash, don't read any D&D books at all. Cuz they're all trash. Srsly, lrn2reed. |
| #9ADHadhFeb 15, 2013 11:00:01 | Speaking of not dealing with trash, don't read any D&D books at all. Cuz they're all Word. I thought "Queen of Demonweb Pits" was the worst novel I've ever read... But right after I've read ToEE novelization. I think those turned me off books on game licenses and fantasy novels as a whole. |
| #10JS20Feb 15, 2013 12:08:13 | For those that are against the D&D novelizations, feel free to recommend actual well done novels that include characters that might be similar, but not identical to the classes I mentioned above. This will also make this topic more "off-topic." |
| #11WolfLordBranFeb 15, 2013 12:15:52 | No it won't. It is written right in the CoC that discussing D&D in the OTT is against forum rules. We have been moderated, and in at least one case, someone recieved a temp ban over it. So kindly ask to have this thread moved and stop breaking the CoC before you get ORC'd. |
| #12draco1119Feb 15, 2013 13:17:17 | Talking about novelizations of the game is not talking about the game itself. ![]() |
| #13zombie_babiesFeb 15, 2013 13:19:02 | For those that are against the D&D novelizations, feel free to recommend actual well done novels that include characters that might be similar, but not identical to the classes I mentioned above. This will also make this topic more "off-topic." Umm ... no? I'm sorry but that sort of 'literature' in general is pretty terrible. I suggest you start with something like Hemingway and then maybe take a look at some Faulkner. From there maybe a little Adams, Heller or Burgess. If you're still with us then take a look at some ol' school pimpin' from Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky. Maybe a little Nabokov once you're through there. Then take it to the present with Ellis, Palahniuk, Welsh and most defintely McCarthy. Just make sure you don't forget about Vonnegut and PK Dick no matter what you do and be sure to check out Takami, too. Once done then you can go back to D&D books and their like and see what you were 'missing'. ;) |
| #14Robin_HoodlumFeb 15, 2013 14:06:26 | Talking about novelizations of the game is not talking about the game itself. But it's still about D&D, which is off-topic here. Oh, and ![]() |
| #15draco1119Feb 15, 2013 14:14:06 | Wrong. It's not about D&D, it's about books. Which just happen to be on the list of approved subjects. ![]() |
| #16Robin_HoodlumFeb 15, 2013 14:15:50 | Wrong. It's not about D&D, it's about books. Which just happen to be on the list of approved subjects. About D&D books, not books in general. Go read the OP again. Now if he would have said "fantasy books", I would have only been slightly annoyed. |
| #17draco1119Feb 15, 2013 14:18:13 | D&D books =/= D&D Neither do those abominable movies called "Dungeons & Dragons". Nor is the Tom Hanks movie from the '80s. It's all relative. ![]() |
| #18Robin_HoodlumFeb 15, 2013 14:18:41 | Then we simply have to agree to disagree. |
| #19xladyfayreFeb 15, 2013 14:35:21 | The Dresden novels are good. |
| #20trappedsliderFeb 15, 2013 15:02:02 | I think I detect sarcasm, but if not, I apologize for the wrong forum. Which forum would be the more appropriate one? don't worry about it, no one will report you and oddly enough the topic of D&D novels fits in here draco1119 pointed out since there is no other place to talk about them. |
| #21zombie_babiesFeb 15, 2013 15:10:01 | The Dresden novels are good. Lies. |
| #22Robin_HoodlumFeb 15, 2013 15:21:19 | I think I detect sarcasm, but if not, I apologize for the wrong forum. Which forum would be the more appropriate one? ![]() |
| #23ADHadhFeb 15, 2013 15:39:58 | For those that are against the D&D novelizations, feel free to recommend actual well done novels that include characters that might be similar, but not identical to the classes I mentioned above. This will also make this topic more "off-topic." Well, the Le guerre del Mondo Emerso trilogy deals with a teenage assassin girl MC and I found it pretty enjoyable, though it wasn't till the end of vol 1 until I discovered it's a sequel to a trilogy about a different character, a teenage elf girl warrior. And while the assassin book was enjoyable for me, I found out that first volume of the first trilogy is really not targeted at me and I couldn't finish it. I gave it away to a teenage girl and she loved it however. I don't think those are available in English anyway ![]() And for literary snobs: I've finished The Martial Chronicles this morning and loved them. |
| #24draco1119Feb 15, 2013 15:40:47 | ZB, you're right about ladyfayre's statement; the Dresden Files aren't good. They're PHENOMENAL!!! ![]() |
| #25JS20Feb 15, 2013 16:06:52 | For those that are against the D&D novelizations, feel free to recommend actual well done novels that include characters that might be similar, but not identical to the classes I mentioned above. This will also make this topic more "off-topic." While I appreciate the condescension, I actually am looking for some nice breezy fantasy reading, so while I appreciate Lolita, it's not what I am after at this time. And again, I apologize if this is off topic, but no other board seems to be set up to talk about books, let alone D&D or other fantasy books. And to the poster that recommended the Dresden Files, I have already read all of them. ![]() |
| #26zombie_babiesFeb 15, 2013 16:11:03 | ZB, you're right about ladyfayre's statement; the Dresden Files aren't good. They're PHENOMENAL!!! For what? Cleaning up after potty time? [While I appreciate the condescension, I actually am looking for some nice breezy fantasy reading, so while I appreciate Lolita, it's not what I am after at this time. Then maybe you should try Pale Fire. ;) |
| #27JS20Feb 21, 2013 5:04:39 | Any Warpriest books out there? |
| #28zombie_babiesFeb 21, 2013 8:27:42 | If there's a god the answer to that question will be 'no'. |
| #29draco1119Feb 21, 2013 9:09:54 | Any Warpriest books out there? Assuming you're talking about the actual 4E class *shudder*... Not that I know of. If you want priests that go into combat, check out Pool of Radiance (AD&D 1E novel). |
| #30JS20Feb 21, 2013 16:09:18 | Any Warpriest books out there? I use "Warpriest" because 4E is what I am most familiar with, but yeah, I mean priests in heavy armor kicking butt. |
| #31pigknightFeb 21, 2013 18:11:15 | So your vanilla D&D cleric? |
| #32The_SilverswordFeb 21, 2013 22:36:15 | The Death Gate Cycle is a pretty good read, while the main character isnt very priestly, he does use runes! |
| #33JS20Feb 24, 2013 13:13:11 | Great recommendations, guys. I am looking to buy a lot of these books. Any barbarian books about people not named Conan? :p |
| #34Robin_HoodlumFeb 24, 2013 13:37:01 | Great recommendations, guys. I am looking to buy a lot of these books. Any barbarian books about people not named Conan? :p ![]() ![]() And none of these has a character named Conan. |
| #35Ragnar_LodbrokFeb 24, 2013 20:23:17 | Great recommendations, guys. I am looking to buy a lot of these books. Any barbarian books about people not named Conan? :p For barbarian hero type stuff, mostly just formulaic rip-offs of Howard's stuff . But history can be nice, if you're just interested in reading about "barbarians". |
| #36draco1119Feb 26, 2013 10:55:49 | Great recommendations, guys. I am looking to buy a lot of these books. Any barbarian books about people not named Conan? :p Again, assuming you're asking specifically for D&D: Dragonlance: "Riverwind, the Plainsman" and the original trilogy FR: Any Drizzt novel with Wulfgar: The Crystal Shard, Streams of Silver, The Spine of the World, and Sea of Swords are all ones that have him as one of the major plotlines. Either of the Moonshae trilogies might have some for you, too, but it's been years since I read the first one, and decades since I read the second. Eberron: Don Bassingthwaite has two trilogies: the only character that show up in all six books are a shifter (class never defined, but probably ranger, fighter, or barbarian) and a human barbarian. |
| #37zombie_babiesFeb 26, 2013 12:01:07 | Isn't Spine of the World the one where he just whines for a couple hundred pages about being a worthless drunk? If that's the case I can save any potential readers some time: take whatever part of your body is your favorite and smash it in a car door about 50 or 60 times. That'll simulate the book well enough and in a fraction of the time. Er, not accounting for time spent in the ER and recovery, of course, but it'll still be well worth it. |
| #38draco1119Feb 26, 2013 12:07:40 | Isn't Spine of the World the one where he just whines for a couple hundred pages about being a worthless drunk? If that's the case I can save any potential readers some time: take whatever part of your body is your favorite and smash it in a car door about 50 or 60 times. That'll simulate the book well enough and in a fraction of the time. Er, not accounting for time spent in the ER and recovery, of course, but it'll still be well worth it. Good point. Skip Spine of the World. |
| #39zombie_babiesFeb 26, 2013 12:17:05 | Yeah, I absolutely hate 'message' books that bludgeon you with the message. We get it, RA. Alcoholism is bad. Can you shut up about it now? No? Two hundred more pages you say? Yippee ... ![]() Incidentally, this is also why I don't like Animal Farm too much. It's a bludgeon. Gimme 1984 any day over that stuff. |
| #40warghoulFeb 26, 2013 15:09:22 | Barbarian. The Blade Itself. |
| #41ADHadhFeb 27, 2013 7:34:47 | The Eye of Argon. |
| #42zombie_babiesFeb 28, 2013 12:03:23 | How can an inert gas have an eye? |
| #43Robin_HoodlumFeb 28, 2013 14:52:35 | How can an inert gas have an eye? Same way a hurricane can have one? |
| #44ADHadhFeb 28, 2013 18:30:13 | How can an inert gas have an eye? Have you ever stared at argon long enough? Show It may stare right back at you. |
| #45zombie_babiesMar 01, 2013 11:53:43 | But you can't see argon, holmes. ![]() |
| #46ADHadhMar 03, 2013 5:00:43 | But you can't see argon, holmes. Speak for yourself ![]() |
| #47iqwinnMar 03, 2013 23:54:46 | I am not sure if this is the right forum, but I would like to ask a question about D&D and other similar fantasy novels. I have recently bought and am reading the novel "Swordmage," and I like the idea of novels focusing on specific classes. The Mark of Nerath has a cleric, as well as an assassin/avenger, a revenant; The Seal of Karga Kul has a paladin, a dragonborn; The Last Garrison has the assassin/avenger revenant again, as well as a full-fledged avenger, and a monk, and a warlord. |
| #48draco1119Mar 04, 2013 1:37:44 | Oh, yeah! That second Bassingthwaite trilogy (Eberron setting) that I mentioned earlier? Also has an assassin and a bard as major characters, and a tiefling artificer as a secondary one. Along with a cleric as one of the BBEGs. |
| #49JS20Mar 04, 2013 7:09:05 | Any straight up psionic main characters like ardents, battleminds, or psions? |
| #50draco1119Mar 04, 2013 10:13:27 | Any straight up psionic main characters like ardents, battleminds, or psions? The first trilogy I mentioned has a psion as one of the three main characters. The Crystal Shard has a psion as one of the major secondary characters. And in the first Eberron trilogy (by Keith Baker), one of the minor characters in the first book (and major character in the 3rd book) is a psion. Oh, and The Blade of the Flame trilogy: one of the major characters in the second or third book is a psi-forged. |
| #51ADHadhMar 04, 2013 17:27:22 | Any straight up psionic main characters like ardents, battleminds, or psions? I think you'd have more luck in the Warhammer 40,000 section. Or more conventional sci-fi. Sword & sorcery don't mix up with psionics in literature that often. |
| #52The_SilverswordMar 04, 2013 23:20:36 | Read some Darksun novels, everyone in Darksun is psionic, right? |
| #53EruditeApeMar 05, 2013 8:00:33 | Read some Darksun novels, everyone in Darksun is psionic, right? No. Magic just hurts the planet or something. |
| #54ZardnaarMar 05, 2013 20:29:21 | Read some Darksun novels, everyone in Darksun is psionic, right? THe Prism Pentad has some psionic characters in it and was reprinted a few years ago. |
| #55JS20Mar 09, 2013 7:52:30 | Love this thread. I am writing all of these down, even the snarky ones. Last one, I was looking through the Forgotten Realms novels and I was wondering if any of them have a hexblade or some similar melee warlock type. |
| #56draco1119Mar 09, 2013 8:42:11 | Not that I know of, but I haven't read any new FR (other than the Drizzt novels) since WotC released The Abomination a few years back. |
| #57The_SilverswordMar 09, 2013 15:12:01 | Not that I know of, but I haven't read any new FR (other than the Drizzt novels) since WotC released The Abomination a few years back. Youre one of those people that cried when Mystra died arent you? Long Live Cyric!!!! |
| #58draco1119Mar 09, 2013 15:21:39 | No; I'm one of the multitudes who didn't give two that the Realms were suddenly a century older, and all continuity had been tossed out the window. The Trial of Cyric the Mad was a pretty awesome book. |
| #59The_SilverswordMar 09, 2013 15:26:02 | "all continuity had been tossed out the window" I think youre thinking of 3rd edition Realms. |
| #60sfdragonMar 09, 2013 15:29:09 | death to 4e........ long live 5e uhhhh what 3e now??? |
| #61The_SilverswordMar 09, 2013 15:51:31 | 3e had far more retconns ,and I hate retcons!!! |
| #62draco1119Mar 09, 2013 16:12:58 | So you'd rather have Mr. Fantastic be a wife-beater? |
| #63The_SilverswordMar 10, 2013 0:20:18 | He got help man, why you got to bring that up? |
| #64iqwinnMar 10, 2013 0:39:36 | He got help man, why you got to bring that up? Do you REALLY have to ask that question? |
| #65TruenamerXMar 10, 2013 1:20:13 | He got help man, why you got to bring that up? ![]() |
| #66ADHadhMar 10, 2013 12:47:11 | So you'd rather have Mr. Fantastic be a wife-beater? Ant Man still is. |
| #67draco1119Mar 10, 2013 12:48:14 | True. And Wonder Woman's still into bondage. And Superman is a crappy father. |
| #68Robin_HoodlumMar 10, 2013 17:08:46 | And Wonder Woman's still into bondage. ![]() ![]() |