D and D Novels

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#1

JS20

Feb 15, 2013 3:22:21
I am not sure if this is the right forum, but I would like to ask a question about D&D and other similar fantasy novels. I have recently bought and am reading the novel "Swordmage," and I like the idea of novels focusing on specific classes.

Are there any D and D novels that focus on any of the following classes:

Artificer
Monk
Runepriest
Assassin
Battlemind
Bladesinger
Paladin
Bard
Cleric
Avenger
Warlord

Thanks for any info you can give me! 
#2

The_Silversword

Feb 15, 2013 3:29:22
Definitely the wrong forum, this is the Off-Topic Tavern, D&D is a forbidden subject around these parts, that being said, Wrath of the Blue Lady by Mel Odom features a monk, aside from that one I cant really think of anyother that really focused on a particular class, but im sure theyre out there.
#3

Robin_Hoodlum

Feb 15, 2013 6:27:32
Definitely the wrong forum, this is the Off-Topic Tavern, D&D is a forbidden subject around these parts,



yup
#4

JS20

Feb 15, 2013 6:53:42
I think I detect sarcasm, but if not, I apologize for the wrong forum. Which forum would be the more appropriate one?
#5

SadClownIsSad

Feb 15, 2013 6:59:36
There is no such thing as sarcasm in the OTT.
Never speak of D&D around these parts, you will be hated, despised, and maybe reported.

Try the D&D General forums, or the specific campaigns sub-forums (particularily FR, lots of novels based on FR).

And please use D&D, not D and D.


#6

Robin_Hoodlum

Feb 15, 2013 7:23:54
I think I detect sarcasm,


Your sarcasm meter needs calibrated.
#7

draco1119

Feb 15, 2013 7:51:06
Are there any D and D novels that focus on any of the following classes:

Ardent
Monk
Runepriest
Assassin
Psion
Battlemind
Bladesinger
Paladin
Bard
Cleric
Avenger
Warlord

Cleric is easy: The Cleric Quintet by Salvatore (also stars a monk)
Assassin, you have a couple choices: The Crystal Shard & its sequesls (also by Salvatore) in FR, or the Blade of the Flame trilogy (also a cleric) in Eberron
For Bladesinger, I think there was mention of a couple in Evermeet, but I don't think a book was dedicated to them
Bard & Paladin: the Azure Bonds trilogy
Psion: Bassingthwaite has two trilogies set in Eberron; the first has a psion as one of the main characters

I'm guessing the rest of the classes are 4E-specific, and I don't deal with that trash. 
#8

zombie_babies

Feb 15, 2013 9:12:48
Speaking of not dealing with trash, don't read any D&D books at all.  Cuz they're all trash.  Srsly, lrn2reed.
#9

ADHadh

Feb 15, 2013 11:00:01
Speaking of not dealing with trash, don't read any D&D books at all.  Cuz they're all trash.  Srsly, lrn2reed.


Word.
I thought "Queen of Demonweb Pits" was the worst novel I've ever read... But right after I've read ToEE novelization.
I think those turned me off books on game licenses and fantasy novels as a whole.
#10

JS20

Feb 15, 2013 12:08:13
For those that are against the D&D novelizations, feel free to recommend actual well done novels that include characters that might be similar, but not identical to the classes I mentioned above. This will also make this topic more "off-topic."
#11

WolfLordBran

Feb 15, 2013 12:15:52
No it won't. It is written right in the CoC that discussing D&D in the OTT is against forum rules. We have been moderated, and in at least one case, someone recieved a temp ban over it. So kindly ask to have this thread moved and stop breaking the CoC before you get ORC'd.
#12

draco1119

Feb 15, 2013 13:17:17
Talking about novelizations of the game is not talking about the game itself.
#13

zombie_babies

Feb 15, 2013 13:19:02
For those that are against the D&D novelizations, feel free to recommend actual well done novels that include characters that might be similar, but not identical to the classes I mentioned above. This will also make this topic more "off-topic."



Umm ... no?  I'm sorry but that sort of 'literature' in general is pretty terrible.  I suggest you start with something like Hemingway and then maybe take a look at some Faulkner.  From there maybe a little Adams, Heller or Burgess.  If you're still with us then take a look at some ol' school pimpin' from Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky.  Maybe a little Nabokov once you're through there.  Then take it to the present with Ellis, Palahniuk, Welsh and most defintely McCarthy.  Just make sure you don't forget about Vonnegut and PK Dick no matter what you do and be sure to check out Takami, too.  Once done then you can go back to D&D books and their like and see what you were 'missing'.  ;)
#14

Robin_Hoodlum

Feb 15, 2013 14:06:26
Talking about novelizations of the game is not talking about the game itself.


But it's still about D&D, which is off-topic here.
Oh, and
#15

draco1119

Feb 15, 2013 14:14:06
Wrong. It's not about D&D, it's about books. Which just happen to be on the list of approved subjects.
#16

Robin_Hoodlum

Feb 15, 2013 14:15:50
Wrong. It's not about D&D, it's about books. Which just happen to be on the list of approved subjects.


About D&D books, not books in general.
Go read the OP again.

Now if he would have said "fantasy books", I would have only been slightly annoyed.
#17

draco1119

Feb 15, 2013 14:18:13
D&D books =/= D&D
Neither do those abominable movies called "Dungeons & Dragons". Nor is the Tom Hanks movie from the '80s. It's all relative.
#18

Robin_Hoodlum

Feb 15, 2013 14:18:41
Then we simply have to agree to disagree.
#19

xladyfayre

Feb 15, 2013 14:35:21
The Dresden novels are good. 
#20

trappedslider

Feb 15, 2013 15:02:02
I think I detect sarcasm, but if not, I apologize for the wrong forum. Which forum would be the more appropriate one?



don't worry about it, no one will report you and oddly enough the topic of D&D novels fits in here draco1119 pointed out since there is no other place to talk about them.
#21

zombie_babies

Feb 15, 2013 15:10:01
The Dresden novels are good. 



Lies.
#22

Robin_Hoodlum

Feb 15, 2013 15:21:19
I think I detect sarcasm, but if not, I apologize for the wrong forum. Which forum would be the more appropriate one?



don't worry about it, no one will report you except me


#23

ADHadh

Feb 15, 2013 15:39:58
For those that are against the D&D novelizations, feel free to recommend actual well done novels that include characters that might be similar, but not identical to the classes I mentioned above. This will also make this topic more "off-topic."


Well, the Le guerre del Mondo Emerso trilogy deals with a teenage assassin girl MC and I found it pretty enjoyable, though it wasn't till the end of vol 1 until I discovered it's a sequel to a trilogy about a different character, a teenage elf girl warrior. And while the assassin book was enjoyable for me, I found out that first volume of the first trilogy is really not targeted at me and I couldn't finish it. I gave it away to a teenage girl and she loved it however.
I don't think those are available in English anyway

And for literary snobs: I've finished The Martial Chronicles this morning and loved them.
#24

draco1119

Feb 15, 2013 15:40:47
ZB, you're right about ladyfayre's statement; the Dresden Files aren't good. They're PHENOMENAL!!!
#25

JS20

Feb 15, 2013 16:06:52
For those that are against the D&D novelizations, feel free to recommend actual well done novels that include characters that might be similar, but not identical to the classes I mentioned above. This will also make this topic more "off-topic."



Umm ... no?  I'm sorry but that sort of 'literature' in general is pretty terrible.  I suggest you start with something like Hemingway and then maybe take a look at some Faulkner.  From there maybe a little Adams, Heller or Burgess.  If you're still with us then take a look at some ol' school pimpin' from Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky.  Maybe a little Nabokov once you're through there.  Then take it to the present with Ellis, Palahniuk, Welsh and most defintely McCarthy.  Just make sure you don't forget about Vonnegut and PK Dick no matter what you do and be sure to check out Takami, too.  Once done then you can go back to D&D books and their like and see what you were 'missing'.  ;)

While I appreciate the condescension, I actually am looking for some nice breezy fantasy reading, so while I appreciate Lolita, it's not what I am after at this time.

And again, I apologize if this is off topic, but no other board seems to be set up to talk about books, let alone D&D or other fantasy books.

And to the poster that recommended the Dresden Files, I have already read all of them.

#26

zombie_babies

Feb 15, 2013 16:11:03
ZB, you're right about ladyfayre's statement; the Dresden Files aren't good. They're PHENOMENAL!!!



For what?  Cleaning up after potty time?

[While I appreciate the condescension, I actually am looking for some nice breezy fantasy reading, so while I appreciate Lolita, it's not what I am after at this time.



Then maybe you should try Pale Fire.  ;)
#27

JS20

Feb 21, 2013 5:04:39
Any Warpriest books out there?
#28

zombie_babies

Feb 21, 2013 8:27:42
If there's a god the answer to that question will be 'no'.
#29

draco1119

Feb 21, 2013 9:09:54
Any Warpriest books out there?

Assuming you're talking about the actual 4E class *shudder*... Not that I know of.  If you want priests that go into combat, check out Pool of Radiance (AD&D 1E novel).
#30

JS20

Feb 21, 2013 16:09:18
Any Warpriest books out there?

Assuming you're talking about the actual 4E class *shudder*... Not that I know of.  If you want priests that go into combat, check out Pool of Radiance (AD&D 1E novel).



I use "Warpriest" because 4E is what I am most familiar with, but yeah, I mean priests in heavy armor kicking butt.

#31

pigknight

Feb 21, 2013 18:11:15
So your vanilla D&D cleric?
#32

The_Silversword

Feb 21, 2013 22:36:15
The Death Gate Cycle is a pretty good read, while the main character isnt very priestly, he does use runes!
#33

JS20

Feb 24, 2013 13:13:11
Great recommendations, guys. I am looking to buy a lot of these books. Any barbarian books about people not named Conan? :p
#34

Robin_Hoodlum

Feb 24, 2013 13:37:01
Great recommendations, guys. I am looking to buy a lot of these books. Any barbarian books about people not named Conan? :p








And none of these has a character named Conan.
#35

Ragnar_Lodbrok

Feb 24, 2013 20:23:17
Great recommendations, guys. I am looking to buy a lot of these books. Any barbarian books about people not named Conan? :p


For barbarian hero type stuff, mostly just formulaic rip-offs of Howard's stuff . But history can be nice, if you're just interested in reading about "barbarians".
#36

draco1119

Feb 26, 2013 10:55:49
Great recommendations, guys. I am looking to buy a lot of these books. Any barbarian books about people not named Conan? :p

Again, assuming you're asking specifically for D&D:
Dragonlance: "Riverwind, the Plainsman" and the original trilogy
FR: Any Drizzt novel with Wulfgar: The Crystal Shard, Streams of Silver, The Spine of the World, and Sea of Swords are all ones that have him as one of the major plotlines.  Either of the Moonshae trilogies might have some for you, too, but it's been years since I read the first one, and decades since I read the second.
Eberron: Don Bassingthwaite has two trilogies: the only character that show up in all six books are a shifter (class never defined, but probably ranger, fighter, or barbarian) and a human barbarian. 
#37

zombie_babies

Feb 26, 2013 12:01:07
Isn't Spine of the World the one where he just whines for a couple hundred pages about being a worthless drunk?  If that's the case I can save any potential readers some time: take whatever part of your body is your favorite and smash it in a car door about 50 or 60 times.  That'll simulate the book well enough and in a fraction of the time.  Er, not accounting for time spent in the ER and recovery, of course, but it'll still be well worth it.
#38

draco1119

Feb 26, 2013 12:07:40
Isn't Spine of the World the one where he just whines for a couple hundred pages about being a worthless drunk?  If that's the case I can save any potential readers some time: take whatever part of your body is your favorite and smash it in a car door about 50 or 60 times.  That'll simulate the book well enough and in a fraction of the time.  Er, not accounting for time spent in the ER and recovery, of course, but it'll still be well worth it.

Good point.  Skip Spine of the World.
#39

zombie_babies

Feb 26, 2013 12:17:05
Yeah, I absolutely hate 'message' books that bludgeon you with the message.  We get it, RA.  Alcoholism is bad.  Can you shut up about it now?  No?  Two hundred more pages you say?  Yippee ...

Incidentally, this is also why I don't like Animal Farm too much.  It's a bludgeon.  Gimme 1984 any day over that stuff. 
#40

warghoul

Feb 26, 2013 15:09:22
Barbarian. The Blade Itself.
#41

ADHadh

Feb 27, 2013 7:34:47
The Eye of Argon.
#42

zombie_babies

Feb 28, 2013 12:03:23
How can an inert gas have an eye?
#43

Robin_Hoodlum

Feb 28, 2013 14:52:35
How can an inert gas have an eye?


Same way a hurricane can have one?
#44

ADHadh

Feb 28, 2013 18:30:13
How can an inert gas have an eye?


Have you ever stared at argon long enough?
Show
It may stare right back at you.
#45

zombie_babies

Mar 01, 2013 11:53:43
But you can't see argon, holmes. 
#46

ADHadh

Mar 03, 2013 5:00:43
But you can't see argon, holmes. 


Speak for yourself
#47

iqwinn

Mar 03, 2013 23:54:46
I am not sure if this is the right forum, but I would like to ask a question about D&D and other similar fantasy novels. I have recently bought and am reading the novel "Swordmage," and I like the idea of novels focusing on specific classes.

Are there any D and D novels that focus on any of the following classes:

Artificer
Monk
Runepriest
Assassin
Battlemind
Bladesinger
Paladin
Bard
Cleric
Avenger
Warlord

Thanks for any info you can give me! 



The Mark of Nerath has a cleric, as well as an assassin/avenger, a revenant; The Seal of Karga Kul has a paladin, a dragonborn; The Last Garrison has the assassin/avenger revenant again, as well as a full-fledged avenger, and a monk, and a warlord.
#48

draco1119

Mar 04, 2013 1:37:44
Oh, yeah!  That second Bassingthwaite trilogy (Eberron setting) that I mentioned earlier?  Also has an assassin and a bard as major characters, and a tiefling artificer as a secondary one.  Along with a cleric as one of the BBEGs.
#49

JS20

Mar 04, 2013 7:09:05
Any straight up psionic main characters like ardents, battleminds, or psions?
#50

draco1119

Mar 04, 2013 10:13:27
Any straight up psionic main characters like ardents, battleminds, or psions?

The first trilogy I mentioned has a psion as one of the three main characters.  The Crystal Shard has a psion as one of the major secondary characters.  And in the first Eberron trilogy (by Keith Baker), one of the minor characters in the first book (and major character in the 3rd book) is a psion.

Oh, and The Blade of the Flame trilogy: one of the major characters in the second or third book is a psi-forged.
#51

ADHadh

Mar 04, 2013 17:27:22
Any straight up psionic main characters like ardents, battleminds, or psions?


I think you'd have more luck in the Warhammer 40,000 section. Or more conventional sci-fi.
Sword & sorcery don't mix up with psionics in literature that often.
#52

The_Silversword

Mar 04, 2013 23:20:36
Read some Darksun novels, everyone in Darksun is psionic, right?
#53

EruditeApe

Mar 05, 2013 8:00:33
Read some Darksun novels, everyone in Darksun is psionic, right?

No. Magic just hurts the planet or something.
#54

Zardnaar

Mar 05, 2013 20:29:21
Read some Darksun novels, everyone in Darksun is psionic, right?



 THe Prism Pentad has some psionic characters in it and was reprinted a few years ago.
#55

JS20

Mar 09, 2013 7:52:30
Love this thread. I am writing all of these down, even the snarky ones. Last one, I was looking through the Forgotten Realms novels and I was wondering if any of them have a hexblade or some similar melee warlock type.
#56

draco1119

Mar 09, 2013 8:42:11
Not that I know of, but I haven't read any new FR (other than the Drizzt novels) since WotC released The Abomination a few years back.
#57

The_Silversword

Mar 09, 2013 15:12:01
Not that I know of, but I haven't read any new FR (other than the Drizzt novels) since WotC released The Abomination a few years back.



Youre one of those people that cried when Mystra died arent you?

Long Live Cyric!!!!

 
#58

draco1119

Mar 09, 2013 15:21:39
No; I'm one of the multitudes who didn't give two that the Realms were suddenly a century older, and all continuity had been tossed out the window. The Trial of Cyric the Mad was a pretty awesome book.
#59

The_Silversword

Mar 09, 2013 15:26:02
"all continuity had been tossed out the window"

I think youre thinking of 3rd edition Realms. 
#60

sfdragon

Mar 09, 2013 15:29:09
death to 4e........ long live 5e

uhhhh what 3e now??? 
#61

The_Silversword

Mar 09, 2013 15:51:31
3e had far more retconns ,and I hate retcons!!!
#62

draco1119

Mar 09, 2013 16:12:58
So you'd rather have Mr. Fantastic be a wife-beater?
#63

The_Silversword

Mar 10, 2013 0:20:18
He got help man, why you got to bring that up?
#64

iqwinn

Mar 10, 2013 0:39:36
He got help man, why you got to bring that up?


Do you REALLY have to ask that question?
#65

TruenamerX

Mar 10, 2013 1:20:13
He got help man, why you got to bring that up?


Do you REALLY have to ask that question?


#66

ADHadh

Mar 10, 2013 12:47:11
So you'd rather have Mr. Fantastic be a wife-beater?


Ant Man still is.
#67

draco1119

Mar 10, 2013 12:48:14
True. And Wonder Woman's still into bondage. And Superman is a crappy father.
#68

Robin_Hoodlum

Mar 10, 2013 17:08:46
And Wonder Woman's still into bondage.