These people have terrible taste, clearly.
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Welcome to the world of subjectivity... Also, thanks!
But hey, there's plenty of things I HATE with a passion that people love (I.E. most action based video games, MTV as a whole, most electronic music) and plenty of things others hate that I seem to enjoy... sometimes as guilty pleasures. (SuperJail, 80s hair bands, Doctor Who of course. Of course I'd have all cheesy things on this list)
Art is in the eye of the beholder, after all. But on that note, how come we haven't turned to stone yet? Man, I wish Beholders were real. Then this could happen!
"Television news day off to a rocky start, viewers are petrified in fear!"
who?
No, Who is on First. What is on Second, and I Don't Know is on third.
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I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Welcome to the world of subjectivity... Also, thanks!
But hey, there's plenty of things I HATE with a passion that people love (I.E. most action based video games, MTV as a whole, most electronic music) and plenty of things others hate that I seem to enjoy... sometimes as guilty pleasures. (SuperJail, 80s hair bands, Doctor Who of course. Of course I'd have all cheesy things on this list)
Art is in the eye of the beholder, after all. But on that note, how come we haven't turned to stone yet? Man, I wish Beholders were real. Then this could happen!
"Television news day off to a rocky start, viewers are petrified in fear!"
awesome. Looks like something out of shadowrun.
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Indeed. Christopher Eccleston is underrated.*
* Maybe if we talk about Doctor Who, the non-believers will leave the thread. :P
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Indeed. Christopher Eccleston is underrated.*
* Maybe if we talk about Doctor Who, the non-believers will leave the thread. :P
that would just encrouge them and the 50th anniversy is coming up :D
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Indeed. Christopher Eccleston is underrated.*
* Maybe if we talk about Doctor Who, the non-believers will leave the thread. :P
that would just encrouge them and the 50th anniversy is coming up :D
Trapped, you with us or against us?
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Indeed. Christopher Eccleston is underrated.*
* Maybe if we talk about Doctor Who, the non-believers will leave the thread. :P
that would just encrouge them and the 50th anniversy is coming up :D
Trapped, you with us or against us?
hmmm i'm all for Doctor Who.....
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
Meh, not enough Batman.
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
No, but it's a close second to SG-1 and 24.. Very close second. Especially David Tennant.
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Indeed. Christopher Eccleston is underrated.*
* Maybe if we talk about Doctor Who, the non-believers will leave the thread. :P
that would just encrouge them and the 50th anniversy is coming up :D
Trapped, you with us or against us?
hmmm i'm all for Doctor Who.....
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
Yeah it used to be
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Indeed. Christopher Eccleston is underrated.*
* Maybe if we talk about Doctor Who, the non-believers will leave the thread. :P
Works for me.
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
Meh, not enough Batman.
Batman is overrated. And the whole thing makes no sense, unless Batman is actually full on crazy. Gotham never improves. Never. An argument could be made that he's made it worse. He could spend his money and actually improve life there, and crime would actually be reduced. It's stupid.
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
No, but it's a close second to SG-1 and 24.. Very close second. Especially David Tennant.
I really like SG-1, but 24? To each their own, I guess.
I thought that show was total crap, personally.
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
Yeah it used to be
8-11 are just as awesome.
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
Yeah it used to be
Batman is overrated. And the whole thing makes no sense, unless Batman is actually full on crazy. (...)
I really like SG-1, but 24? To each their own, I guess.
I thought that show was total crap, personally.
I loved it. Like you said, to each their own. 
Batman is overrated. And the whole thing makes no sense, unless Batman is actually full on crazy. (...)
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
No, but it's a close second to SG-1 and 24.. Very close second. Especially David Tennant.
A close second to two terrible shows isn't very impressive. ;)
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Indeed. Christopher Eccleston is underrated.*
* Maybe if we talk about Doctor Who, the non-believers will leave the thread. :P
HELL YEAH! 9th Doc is my favorite (Tennant was okay, and Matt Smith is just weird... No offense, Smith fans. I like Doc. 11 too though)
Also, if we sample the "subjectivity used as fact" nature of this forum, than all these non-whovians have simpy DREADFUL taste :P
I'm with you Doc.
These people have terrible taste, clearly.
Indeed. Christopher Eccleston is underrated.*
* Maybe if we talk about Doctor Who, the non-believers will leave the thread. :P
HELL YEAH! 9th Doc is my favorite (Tennant was okay, and Matt Smith is just weird... No offense, Smith fans. I like Doc. 11 too though)
Also, if we sample the "subjectivity used as fact" nature of this forum, than all these non-whovians have simpy DREADFUL taste :P
There is nothing subjective about how much Doctor Who sucks. ;)
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
Yeah it used to be
Damn right Silver. Rumour has it Tom Baker might do the 50th special.
...I actually still kinda like it, but I do not watch it regularly.
Doctor Who is the greatest show ever. of all time
No, but it's a close second to SG-1 and 24.. Very close second. Especially David Tennant.
A close second to two terrible shows isn't very impressive. ;)
who?
No, Who is on First. What is on Second, and I Don't Know is on third.
That's what I want to find out.
Yeah, Dr Who is terrible. RM nailed why. SG1, though? Awesome.
SG1!? My god you guys have no amazing taste in sci-fi shows.
Yeah, Dr Who is terrible. RM nailed why. SG1, though? Awesome.
SG1!? My god you guys have no amazing taste in sci-fi shows.
See, that's what happens when you try to "fix" something you have no clue about. ;)
Yeah, Dr Who is terrible. RM nailed why. SG1, though? Awesome.
SG1!? My god you guys have no amazing taste in sci-fi shows.
See, that's what happens when you try to "fix" something you have no clue about. ;)
You mean I turn the sentence into something that makes sense?
SG1!? My god you guys have no taste in sci-fi shows.
dood, SG1 was great. Lemme guess: you're a Babylon 5 fan?
Yeah, Dr Who is terrible. RM nailed why. SG1, though? Awesome.
SG1!? My god you guys have no amazing taste in sci-fi shows.
See, that's what happens when you try to "fix" something you have no clue about. ;)
You mean I turn the sentence into something that makes sense?
If by "sense" you mean "derp," sure.
SG1!? My god you guys have no taste in sci-fi shows.
dood, SG1 was great. Lemme guess: you're a Babylon 5 fan?
I bet he is.
Chekov. SG1!? My god you guys have no taste in sci-fi shows.
dood, SG1 was great. Lemme guess: you're a Babylon 5 fan?
No it wasn't. McGyver never used a rubber band and a paper clip to defeat the Goa'ld. Seriously, it was a show where the main villains could have easily been defeated if we went along with the Chinese and mandated abortions for everyone.
SG1!? My god you guys have no taste in sci-fi shows.
dood, SG1 was great. Lemme guess: you're a Babylon 5 fan?
No it wasn't. McGyver never used a rubber band and a paper clip to defeat the Goa'ld. Seriously, it was a show where the main villains could have easily been defeated if we went along with the Chinese and mandated abortions for everyone.
How, exactly?
SG1!? My god you guys have no taste in sci-fi shows.
dood, SG1 was great. Lemme guess: you're a Babylon 5 fan?
No it wasn't. McGyver never used a rubber band and a paper clip to defeat the Goa'ld. Seriously, it was a show where the main villains could have easily been defeated if we went along with the Chinese and mandated abortions for everyone.
How, exactly?
Think about it. It's not that hard. ;)
SG1!? My god you guys have no taste in sci-fi shows.
dood, SG1 was great. Lemme guess: you're a Babylon 5 fan?
No it wasn't. McGyver never used a rubber band and a paper clip to defeat the Goa'ld. Seriously, it was a show where the main villains could have easily been defeated if we went along with the Chinese and mandated abortions for everyone.
How, exactly?
Think about it. It's not that hard. ;)
No, I get what you're saying. I just don't see how it wuld help given the billions of other humans in the galaxy.
No, I get what you're saying. I just don't see how it wuld help given the billions of other humans in the galaxy.
They all have to get abortions as well. Done! See how easy that was?
No, I get what you're saying. I just don't see how it wuld help given the billions of other humans in the galaxy.
They all have to get abortions as well. Done!See how easy that was?
I really like SG-1, but 24? To each their own, I guess.
I thought that show was total crap, personally.
Yeah, my dad's right there with you.
I also stopped caring about Breaking Bad close to the end of the first season, and have no interesting in watching Sons of Anarchy.
Life is gritty. I've seen it first hand. I'd rather have fun when I watch tv. Just my view, though.
Batman is overrated. And the whole thing makes no sense, unless Batman is actually full on crazy. (...)
lol perfect.
Ewwww. They all suck. Can't be a fan of stuff that sucks. Except Star Trek: the Nex the Generation. It was good thanks to Patrick. But I am not a fan. I just appriacte it's qualities. Same for the X-Files' first 5 seaons and the first three seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
DS9 is better than Next Gen. Jus' sayin'. And I bet you really like Lexx. You just won't admit it.
Ewwww. They all suck. Can't be a fan of stuff that sucks. Except Star Trek: the Nex the Generation. It was good thanks to Patrick. But I am not a fan. I just appriacte it's qualities. Same for the X-Files' first 5 seaons and the first three seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
DS9 is better than Next Gen. Jus' sayin'. And I bet you really like Lexx. You just won't admit it.
No it isn't. The first few seasons sucked. Then they decided to change Sisko into the black Picard. Then he became someone's Mary Sue wet dream.
Lexx?
dood, a bad first two seasons is a Star Trek hallmark. NG's first two seasons sucked, too. You gotta wait for Riker to grow a beard. Same with DS9 - Sisko grows beard and all is well. And Sisko was totally different than Picard. Less morals. Lied to get the Romulans involved in the war an' stuff like that.
So what you're saying is that the DS9 writers were racist?
Ewwww. They all suck. Can't be a fan of stuff that sucks. Except Star Trek: the Nex the Generation. It was good thanks to Patrick. But I am not a fan. I just appriacte it's qualities. Same for the X-Files' first 5 seaons and the first three seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
DS9 is better than Next Gen. Jus' sayin'. And I bet you really like Lexx. You just won't admit it.
TNG had at least one of the best movies in the franchise, and some of the best episodes, but it can be hard to watch episode by episode. DS9 had fewer of the best episodes, but was easier to watch episode by episode.
The invasion was badass.
Anyway, DS9 is one of the three shows I just call Babylon 9: Atlantis.
dood, a bad first two seasons is a Star Trek hallmark. NG's first two seasons sucked, too. You gotta wait for Riker to grow a beard. Same with DS9 - Sisko grows beard and all is well. And Sisko was totally different than Picard. Less morals. Lied to get the Romulans involved in the war an' stuff like that.
So what you're saying is that the DS9 writers were racist?
Or, you know, they wrote a different character.
Because he's a completely different character.
Or, you know, they wrote a different character.
Because he's a completely different character.
No he isn't, or at least he wasn't. He became his own character when he got all Mary-Sued-up, but before then, he was a cheap version of Picard.
Or, you know, they wrote a different character.
Because he's a completely different character.
No he isn't, or at least he wasn't. He became his own character when he got all Mary-Sued-up, but before then, he was a cheap version of Picard.
he punched Q...Picard never touched Q
Ooohh. Hot girl.
Yep. She was part lizard person or something. That's about all that show had, though. A hot girl. Oh, and they flew in a fly. Like, the ship was a giant fly or something. Oh, and they had murderous carrots, too. Those were supercool.
DS9 really started sucking when Dax left the show. It's not just the last episode.
Meh, Ezri was ok. Really all ya need DS9 for is the Dominion War, though. Superepicspacebattlesofwin.
Or, you know, they wrote a different character.
Because he's a completely different character.
No he isn't, or at least he wasn't. He became his own character when he got all Mary-Sued-up, but before then, he was a cheap version of Picard.
Complete bull.
Did you even watch the show?
Because if you did, you'd know that the two characters have different personalities, hobbies, priorities, command styles and general outlooks on life.
In other words, they're completely different characters.
Complete bull.
Did you even watch the show?
Because if you did, you'd know that the two characters have different personalities, hobbies, priorities, command styles and general outlooks on life.
In other words, they're completely different characters.
Hey! Relax...
We're just discussing what a terrible rip-off of Picard Sisko is. No need to get all bent out of shape. Just accept the facts that Sisko is Picard, except written by racist writers.
Complete bull.
Did you even watch the show?
Because if you did, you'd know that the two characters have different personalities, hobbies, priorities, command styles and general outlooks on life.
In other words, they're completely different characters.
Hey! Relax...
We're just discussing what a terrible rip-off of Picard Sisko is. No need to get all bent out of shape. Just accept the facts that Sisko is Picard, except written by racist writers.
lol How exactly is his depiction racist? One of the very few similarities between the two characters are that they are both very good people, with strong moral compasses. They don't view right and wrong in exactly the same way, but neither do Picard and Richer, for instance.
There was an "article" (as though you can call those things that) on MSN today about the possibility that Dr. Who could be a woman after the current Dr. leaves (which reads to me like a hint that he may be gone in a year or two)...
Hasn't he already been a woman for a little bit, like part of an episode or something, or am I thinking of an episode where he ran into another Time Lord who came back as a woman? I've only seen a few episodes (spread across like five different Dr.'s), one of which was when he died and gave his powers to his girlfriend for a bit...
I personally only watch the show based on how hot the woman he's hanging around with at the time is.
lol How exactly is his depiction racist? One of the very few similarities between the two characters are that they are both very good people, with strong moral compasses. They don't view right and wrong in exactly the same way, but neither do Picard and Richer, for instance.
And yet it's the black captain that is extra violent and punches people, and as ZB pointed out, has less morals. What's up with that, brosef?
lol How exactly is his depiction racist? One of the very few similarities between the two characters are that they are both very good people, with strong moral compasses. They don't view right and wrong in exactly the same way, but neither do Picard and Richer, for instance.
And yet it's the black captain that is extra violent and punches people, and as ZB pointed out, has less morals. What's up with that, brosef?
So the people who wrote Jameway were sexist, because she had a rivalry with the Borg Queen, another female character. OOOOOOH CATFIGHT!!!!!!!
Janeway vs. the Borg Queen in a catfight? Hell, I'd almost watch that on pay-per-view... (almost)
Janeway vs. the Borg Queen in a catfight? Hell, I'd almost watch that on pay-per-view... (almost)
Get Seven of Nine involved and we'll talk. And trash the Borg Queen. And add Lt. Col. Carter. And Deanna Troi. And scrap Jameway. And Princess Leia in that slave girl outfit.
lol How exactly is his depiction racist? One of the very few similarities between the two characters are that they are both very good people, with strong moral compasses. They don't view right and wrong in exactly the same way, but neither do Picard and Richer, for instance.
And yet it's the black captain that is extra violent and punches people, and as ZB pointed out, has less morals. What's up with that, brosef?
So the people who wrote Jameway were sexist, because she had a rivalry with the Borg Queen, another female character. OOOOOOH CATFIGHT!!!!!!!
They aren't hot enough for a cat fight.
lol How exactly is his depiction racist? One of the very few similarities between the two characters are that they are both very good people, with strong moral compasses. They don't view right and wrong in exactly the same way, but neither do Picard and Richer, for instance.
And yet it's the black captain that is extra violent and punches people, and as ZB pointed out, has less morals. What's up with that, brosef?
So the people who wrote Jameway were sexist, because she had a rivalry with the Borg Queen, another female character. OOOOOOH CATFIGHT!!!!!!!
They aren't hot enough for a cat fight.
See above.
lol How exactly is his depiction racist? One of the very few similarities between the two characters are that they are both very good people, with strong moral compasses. They don't view right and wrong in exactly the same way, but neither do Picard and Richer, for instance.
And yet it's the black captain that is extra violent and punches people, and as ZB pointed out, has less morals. What's up with that, brosef?
So the people who wrote Jameway were sexist, because she had a rivalry with the Borg Queen, another female character. OOOOOOH CATFIGHT!!!!!!!
They aren't hot enough for a cat fight.
See above.
Meh, boring. One of the three is hot. That does not make for a cat fight. Besides, if you're going to bring up JeriRyan, you should also bring up the kinky stuff her husband had her do.
lol How exactly is his depiction racist? One of the very few similarities between the two characters are that they are both very good people, with strong moral compasses. They don't view right and wrong in exactly the same way, but neither do Picard and Richer, for instance.
And yet it's the black captain that is extra violent and punches people, and as ZB pointed out, has less morals. What's up with that, brosef?
So the people who wrote Jameway were sexist, because she had a rivalry with the Borg Queen, another female character. OOOOOOH CATFIGHT!!!!!!!
They aren't hot enough for a cat fight.
See above.
Meh, boring. One of the three is hot. That does not make for a cat fight. Besides, if you're going to bring up JeriRyan, you should also bring up the kinky stuff her husband had her do.
Carter is hot, and Troi is...sensual+good looking-enough.
lol How exactly is his depiction racist? One of the very few similarities between the two characters are that they are both very good people, with strong moral compasses. They don't view right and wrong in exactly the same way, but neither do Picard and Richer, for instance.
And yet it's the black captain that is extra violent and punches people, and as ZB pointed out, has less morals. What's up with that, brosef?
So the people who wrote Jameway were sexist, because she had a rivalry with the Borg Queen, another female character. OOOOOOH CATFIGHT!!!!!!!
They aren't hot enough for a cat fight.
See above.
Besides, if you're going to bring up JeriRyan, you should also bring up the kinky stuff her husband had her do.
This is a family forum!!! (in theory...)Carter is hot, and Troi is...sensual+good looking-enough.
Good looking enough? You have very low standards, don't you?
It involved her husband. It counts as family.
Carter is hot, and Troi is...sensual+good looking-enough.
Good looking enough? You have very low standards, don't you?
Eh.
I don't really read/watch much Sci-Fi beyond Stargate, Star Trek, Doctor Who and Star Wars.
I'll throw in T'Pol, Martha Jones, and Padme.
Aug 27, 2012 -- 2:28PM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:
Carter is hot, and Troi is...sensual+good looking-enough.
Good looking enough? You have very low standards, don't you?
Eh.
I don't really read/watch much Sci-Fi beyond Stargate, Star Trek, Doctor Who and Star Wars.
I'll throw in T'Pol, Martha Jones, and Padme.
I meant low standars regarding your taste in the girlies.
wow. That's a greater stretch than Reed Richards being able to get a hot wife. (not what you expected, was it?)
You like Doctor Who. I don't expect much.
Picard is reserved and British-y, and well, a bit old. Sisko is younger, more imposing, etc. If you think the difference is because he's black, then honestly, you can't be helped. Kirk would have punched Q, too, and he's white. And Sisko is very "American" in demeanor and habits. There is nothing "street" or otherwise stereotypically black about him, that I can recall.
Great, so not only are they racist, the writers also look down on Americans. Why does the black American guy have to be the one who imposing? Seriously, that's like playing off of stereotypes. The white "british-y" guy gets to be the sophisticated one and go exploring and doing cool intellectual stuff, while the war mongering American, who just happens to be black, has to have less morals and punch people in the face and intimidate everyone else. Grrrrrrrreeeeeaaat...
wow. That's a greater stretch than Reed Richards being able to get a hot wife. (not what you expected, was it?)
You like Doctor Who. I don't expect much.Picard is reserved and British-y, and well, a bit old. Sisko is younger, more imposing, etc. If you think the difference is because he's black, then honestly, you can't be helped. Kirk would have punched Q, too, and he's white. And Sisko is very "American" in demeanor and habits. There is nothing "street" or otherwise stereotypically black about him, that I can recall.
Great, so not only are they racist, the writers also look down on Americans. Why does the black American guy have to be the one who imposing? Seriously, that's like playing off of stereotypes. The white "british-y" guy gets to be the sophisticated one and go exploring and doing cool intellectual stuff, while the war mongering American, who just happens to be black, has to have less morals and punch people in the face and intimidate everyone else. Grrrrrrrreeeeeaaat...
Ok, first of all, whoever said Sisko has less morals is simply wrong. And there's not one single note in the entire show of looking negatively on Sisko, so the idea that the writers look down on Americans or black people is absurd. He's the hero, and is presented as such.
You may not like the character, but that's irrelevant.
Ok, first of all, whoever said Sisko has less morals is simply wrong. And there's not one single note in the entire show of looking negatively on Sisko, so the idea that the writers look down on Americans or black people is absurd. He's the hero, and is presented as such.
He said so himself.
"So... I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing of all... I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Garak was right about one thing, a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it... Computer, erase that entire personal log."
- - Sisko in DS9: "In the Pale Moonlight"
;)
You may not like the character, but that's irrelevant.
Like or dislike, it makes no difference. I wasn't a writer for the show.
Ok, first of all, whoever said Sisko has less morals is simply wrong. And there's not one single note in the entire show of looking negatively on Sisko, so the idea that the writers look down on Americans or black people is absurd. He's the hero, and is presented as such.
He said so himself."So... I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing of all... I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Garak was right about one thing, a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it... Computer, erase that entire personal log."
- - Sisko in DS9: "In the Pale Moonlight"
;)You may not like the character, but that's irrelevant.
Like or dislike, it makes no difference. I wasn't a writer for the show.
And Picard would have done the same, in his shoes.
Sisko remains a good man, a good comander, and a good character.
There's nothing racist or anti-american about him or the show.
And Picard would have done the same, in his shoes.
No he wouldn't.
Sisko remains a good man, a good comander, and a good character.
No he doesn't.
There's nothing racist or anti-american about him or the show.
Yes there is. I've already pointed it out. It's obvious. The only problem is that you don't want to accept it, but it's true. The writers of DS9 hated Americans and were racist. They are terrible people.
And Picard would have done the same, in his shoes.
No he wouldn't.Sisko remains a good man, a good comander, and a good character.
No he doesn't.There's nothing racist or anti-american about him or the show.
Yes there is. I've already pointed it out. It's obvious. The only problem is that you don't want to accept it, but it's true. The writers of DS9 hated Americans and were racist. They are terrible people.
You are objectively incorrect.
And Picard would have done the same, in his shoes.
No he wouldn't.Sisko remains a good man, a good comander, and a good character.
No he doesn't.There's nothing racist or anti-american about him or the show.
Yes there is. I've already pointed it out. It's obvious. The only problem is that you don't want to accept it, but it's true. The writers of DS9 hated Americans and were racist. They are terrible people.
You are objectively incorrect.
Objectivity is the excuse people who are wrong, but can't bring themselves to accept it use so they don't cry at night. It'll be okay. All you have to do is accept it as truth, and you will feel better. Say it with me: "Sisko is a Picard rip-off, and the writers of DS9 hated America and were racists."
All the sci-fi nerd rage in this thread
(Ironic or not, it baffles me how the notion of some leisurely pop culture artifacts can spawn such conflict. But, alas... I tend to stay away from fandoms, maybe even the D&D fandom. But hey, it makes for a fun read)
Also, nothing trumps the most brilliant science fiction work ever forged!
Show
You know it's true.
You know it's true.
I dont care what anybody says, Han shot first!
Finally someone mentioned something enjoyable.
Finally someone mentioned something enjoyable.
Wut? Star Bores is terrible.
Anyhoo, Picard wouldn't have done the same. In fact, he didn't. He was the Arbiter of Succession and had an opportunity to cement the Federation's link with the Klingons. He made the correct choice only because Duras was proved to be a clone or whatever he was. And then, once Picard was certain there'd be civil war that could see the Klingons allied with the hostile Romulans - a most assuredly undesirable possibility for the Federation - he turned the Enterprise around and left when Gowron needed him most. That's the technically right thing to do thanks to the Prime Directive. And, to me, that shows us there's no way Picard would have compromised his belief in the Directive in order to assure Romulan alliance against the Dominion as Sisko did. It's not his style. It's not in him to do it. And that's fine. But yeah, Picard wouldn't have done it.
Finally someone mentioned something enjoyable.
Wut? Star Bores is terrible.
Anyhoo, Picard wouldn't have done the same. In fact, he didn't. He was the Arbiter of Succession and had an opportunity to cement the Federation's link with the Klingons. He made the correct choice only because Duras was proved to be a clone or whatever he was. And then, once Picard was certain there'd be civil war that could see the Klingons allied with the hostile Romulans - a most assuredly undesirable possibility for the Federation - he turned the Enterprise around and left when Gowron needed him most. That's the technically right thing to do thanks to the Prime Directive. And, to me, that shows us there's no way Picard would have compromised his belief in the Directive in order to assure Romulan alliance against the Dominion as Sisko did. It's not his style. It's not in him to do it. And that's fine. But yeah, Picard wouldn't have done it.
I'm about to go nerd, so read at your own peril.
1.
I admit some of the movies were less then stellar, but the EU is fantastic.2. Duras was not a a clone. That was the new Kahless. Duras got killed by Worf.
3. Romulan-Klingon alliance dosen't mean that the Federation will lose a war for it's survival. It means that their rivals have shifted the balance of power in a situation that does not border on a Cold War, at all.
I'm about to go nerd, so read at your own peril.
What-evs.
1.
I don't even know what that means.
2. Duras was not a a clone. That was the new Kahless. Duras got killed by Worf.
It was allegedly Duras' son - the kid Lursa and B'Etor presented. He was illigitimate but not cloned or whatever (so I bonered on that'n) and his claim to the throne was invalidated when it was discovered his family was working with the Romulans. Worf most certainly did not kill the child. His life was offered to Worf but Worf refused to take it.
At any rate, this shows that Picard would not have pulled a Sisko because, you know, he didn't. He could have chosen Gowron at any time but, instead, was leaning toward Duras until the treachery was revealed. Had the Romulan ties never been exposed, Picard would have chosen Duras to lead regardless of the cost to the Federation. A most assuredly non-Sisko approach.
3. Romulan-Klingon alliance dosen't mean that the Federation will lose a war for it's survival. It means that their rivals have shifted the balance of power in a situation that does not border on a Cold War, at all.
Actually it pretty much meant exactly that. It's also pretty much why they were so afraid of it happening. The Romulans were openly hostile to the Federation as revealed by their spy plot (where the Enterprise delivered the spy, post mission, to the Romulans after she posed as an ambassador) and the plant they sacrificed to lure the Enterprise into the neutral zone in order to provoke a war (when the Romulan leader threatened to destroy the Enterprise if it were not surrendered and then display it's husk in the Romulan capitol). Then you've got them trying to sneak past the Federation fleet to attack and the other time the Enterprise was caught in the neutral zone (I think it was when they went to Romulus to get Spock back) and set upon and saved only because they brought along some Klingon help. So yeah, there's sort of more than plenty of reason for the Federation to fear a Klingon Empire that's basically a Romulan puppet. That's sort of the entire point of that story arc.
So yeah, next time you wanna 'go nerd'? Make sure you know what you're talkin' about. ;)
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I don't even know what that means.
"Expanded Universe". That convoluted stuff for nerds and Mandalorian fetishists
I admit that I simply don't like sci-fi that gets too technical about itself and I find Star Wars simply fun movies to watch and I think Jedis and a rickety Millenium Falcon are cooler than some rubber-forehead "savage" aliens or dime-a-dozen Entriprises.
PS. And Togruta are teh smexy.
Oh, so it's Star Bores nonsense. Glad I had no idea, then.
umm most major Sci-fi settings have an Expanded Universe, I have a few of the Star Trek books....
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I don't even know what that means.
"Expanded Universe". That convoluted stuff for nerds and Mandalorian fetishists
I admit that I simply don't like sci-fi that gets too technical about itself and I find Star Wars simply fun movies to watch and I think Jedis and a rickety Millenium Falcon are cooler than some rubber-forehead "savage" aliens or dime-a-dozen Entriprises.
PS. And Togruta are teh smexy.
The EU is mostly Jedi and the Millenium Falcon lol....
I'm about to go nerd, so read at your own peril.
What-evs.1.
I don't even know what that means.2. Duras was not a a clone. That was the new Kahless. Duras got killed by Worf.
It was allegedly Duras' son - the kid Lursa and B'Etor presented. He was illigitimate but not cloned or whatever (so I bonered on that'n) and his claim to the throne was invalidated when it was discovered his family was working with the Romulans. Worf most certainly did not kill the child. His life was offered to Worf but Worf refused to take it.
At any rate, this shows that Picard would not have pulled a Sisko because, you know, he didn't. He could have chosen Gowron at any time but, instead, was leaning toward Duras until the treachery was revealed. Had the Romulan ties never been exposed, Picard would have chosen Duras to lead regardless of the cost to the Federation. A most assuredly non-Sisko approach.3. Romulan-Klingon alliance dosen't mean that the Federation will lose a war for it's survival. It means that their rivals have shifted the balance of power in a situation that does not border on a Cold War, at all.
Actually it pretty much meant exactly that. It's also pretty much why they were so afraid of it happening. The Romulans were openly hostile to the Federation as revealed by their spy plot (where the Enterprise delivered the spy, post mission, to the Romulans after she posed as an ambassador) and the plant they sacrificed to lure the Enterprise into the neutral zone in order to provoke a war (when the Romulan leader threatened to destroy the Enterprise if it were not surrendered and then display it's husk in the Romulan capitol). Then you've got them trying to sneak past the Federation fleet to attack and the other time the Enterprise was caught in the neutral zone (I think it was when they went to Romulus to get Spock back) and set upon and saved only because they brought along some Klingon help. So yeah, there's sort of more than plenty of reason for the Federation to fear a Klingon Empire that's basically a Romulan puppet. That's sort of the entire point of that story arc.
So yeah, next time you wanna 'go nerd'? Make sure you know what you're talkin' about. ;)
I thought you meant Duras the elder, who killed Worf's mate. My mistake.
2. Hardly. The Dominion and the Federation were in war. The Federation and the Romulans were not. I would imagine there were quite a few Federation spies on Romulus. Spcok was there, although not in an ooffcial capacity as a spy, but I would imagine he'd have a few things to tell the Federation. Admittedly, the ambassador 9Wasn't her name T'Pol as well? I might be wrong, it's been a while since I saw that episode). As for the Romulans trying to provoke a war by luring the Enterprise into the Neutral Zone, Picard certainly ventured into the Neutral Zone as well on several occasions, risking a war. What about during the visit to that planet with the probes and the portal doorways, I forget the name but an ancient species had lived there and constructed an empire using those portals. They tried to sneak past the Federation fleet, yes, to battle in the Klingon Civil War. They don't have a Prime Directive, So why does them trying to create a puppet regime in an Alpha Quadrant power=total war and death to the Federation? It's bad, certainly. But it's not near the Domion War-level.
Also, homicidial squirrel, how about you tell us what Sci-Fi you like so you can have more of a purpose here other then calling wirters racist and making vague insinuations towards Doctor Who? Then, we can make fun of what you like without any substance.
2. Hardly. The Dominion and the Federation were in war. The Federation and the Romulans were not. I would imagine there were quite a few Federation spies on Romulus. Spcok was there, although not in an ooffcial capacity as a spy, but I would imagine he'd have a few things to tell the Federation. Admittedly, the ambassador 9Wasn't her name T'Pol as well? I might be wrong, it's been a while since I saw that episode). As for the Romulans trying to provoke a war by luring the Enterprise into the Neutral Zone, Picard certainly ventured into the Neutral Zone as well on several occasions, risking a war. What about during the visit to that planet with the probes and the portal doorways, I forget the name but an ancient species had lived there and constructed an empire using those portals. They tried to sneak past the Federation fleet, yes, to battle in the Klingon Civil War. They don't have a Prime Directive, So why does them trying to create a puppet regime in an Alpha Quadrant power=total war and death to the Federation? It's bad, certainly. But it's not near the Domion War-level.
I didn't actually read that; it's stuff like that that's keeping me off any Expanded Universes and Star Trek in its entirety
2. Hardly. The Dominion and the Federation were in war. The Federation and the Romulans were not. I would imagine there were quite a few Federation spies on Romulus. Spcok was there, although not in an ooffcial capacity as a spy, but I would imagine he'd have a few things to tell the Federation. Admittedly, the ambassador 9Wasn't her name T'Pol as well? I might be wrong, it's been a while since I saw that episode). As for the Romulans trying to provoke a war by luring the Enterprise into the Neutral Zone, Picard certainly ventured into the Neutral Zone as well on several occasions, risking a war. What about during the visit to that planet with the probes and the portal doorways, I forget the name but an ancient species had lived there and constructed an empire using those portals. They tried to sneak past the Federation fleet, yes, to battle in the Klingon Civil War. They don't have a Prime Directive, So why does them trying to create a puppet regime in an Alpha Quadrant power=total war and death to the Federation? It's bad, certainly. But it's not near the Domion War-level.
I didn't actually read that; it's stuff like that that's keeping me off any Expanded Universes and Star Trek in its entirety
Those were all TV episodes, mainly TNG. I haven't really gotten into Star Trek EU either, except for an as-yet unopeneed copy of the Destiny trilogy.
Star Bores is terrible.
What!? For Realz? Bores? Dude its a movie about these drug smugglers who team up with this farm boy who just cant wait to apply to the Imperial Academy, and an old guy with psi powers, and, AND, Lazer-swords! You can beat that! Thats high adventure right there! Nothing boring about that.
And anyways, im willing to bet youve seen every single Star Wars movie, all versions of them even!
Star Bores is terrible.
What!? For Realz? Bores? Dude its a movie about these drug smugglers who team up with this farm boy who just cant wait to apply to the Imperial Academy, and an old guy with psi powers, and, AND, Lazer-swords! You can beat that! Thats high adventure right there! Nothing boring about that.
And anyways, im willing to bet youve seen every single Star Wars movie, all versions of them even!
I've seen pr0n with a better plot than Star Wars. I;ve tried watching the last one that came out, but I keep falling asleep. Seriously, I pass out 10 minutes into it every time1. Actually, come to think of it, I fall asleep whenever I try to watch any of the Star Wars movies. Lucas should really re-title it Star Bores.
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No, RM, I will not watch it with you.
And Picard would have done the same, in his shoes.
No he wouldn't.Sisko remains a good man, a good comander, and a good character.
No he doesn't.There's nothing racist or anti-american about him or the show.
Yes there is. I've already pointed it out. It's obvious. The only problem is that you don't want to accept it, but it's true. The writers of DS9 hated Americans and were racist. They are terrible people.
You are objectively incorrect.
Objectivity is the excuse people who are wrong, but can't bring themselves to accept it use so they don't cry at night. It'll be okay. All you have to do is accept it as truth, and you will feel better. Say it with me: "Sisko is a Picard rip-off, and the writers of DS9 hated America and were racists."
You can call my keyboard a banana all you want, but it remains a banana.
Finally someone mentioned something enjoyable.
Wut? Star Bores is terrible.
Anyhoo, Picard wouldn't have done the same. In fact, he didn't. He was the Arbiter of Succession and had an opportunity to cement the Federation's link with the Klingons. He made the correct choice only because Duras was proved to be a clone or whatever he was. And then, once Picard was certain there'd be civil war that could see the Klingons allied with the hostile Romulans - a most assuredly undesirable possibility for the Federation - he turned the Enterprise around and left when Gowron needed him most. That's the technically right thing to do thanks to the Prime Directive. And, to me, that shows us there's no way Picard would have compromised his belief in the Directive in order to assure Romulan alliance against the Dominion as Sisko did. It's not his style. It's not in him to do it. And that's fine. But yeah, Picard wouldn't have done it.
I don't think Sisko would have acted all that differently than Picard in that situation, though. They're different.
Sisko had the choice of following his code, or saving the quadrant from complete subjugation by an extremely hostile force.
I think that if either of them had to choose between a war between the federation and a Romulan/Klingon alliance, and total subjugation of the quadrant under the Dominion, both of them would make the same choice.
But, I think that's the main similarity between the two of them. Dedication, loyalty, etc. Those things that make a person a good person and capable of leadership. Beyond that, they're not alike.
The Romulans are a war threat. They aren't an existential threat to the entire quadrant.
Star Bores is terrible.
What!? For Realz? Bores? Dude its a movie about these drug smugglers who team up with this farm boy who just cant wait to apply to the Imperial Academy, and an old guy with psi powers, and, AND, Lazer-swords! You can beat that! Thats high adventure right there! Nothing boring about that.
And anyways, im willing to bet youve seen every single Star Wars movie, all versions of them even!
I've seen pr0n with a better plot than Star Wars. I;ve tried watching the last one that came out, but I keep falling asleep. Seriously, I pass out 10 minutes into it every time1. Actually, come to think of it, I fall asleep whenever I try to watch any of the Star Wars movies. Lucas should really re-title it Star Bores.
___________1No, RM, I will not watch it with you.
And Picard would have done the same, in his shoes.
No he wouldn't.Sisko remains a good man, a good comander, and a good character.
No he doesn't.There's nothing racist or anti-american about him or the show.
Yes there is. I've already pointed it out. It's obvious. The only problem is that you don't want to accept it, but it's true. The writers of DS9 hated Americans and were racist. They are terrible people.
You are objectively incorrect.
Objectivity is the excuse people who are wrong, but can't bring themselves to accept it use so they don't cry at night. It'll be okay. All you have to do is accept it as truth, and you will feel better. Say it with me: "Sisko is a Picard rip-off, and the writers of DS9 hated America and were racists."
You can call my keyboard a banana all you want, but it remains a banana.
So you agree with me then? Good. I'm glad we could settle this amicably. Now let's move on to Star Bores. That is some seriously racist sci-fi.
Also, Star Wars has better merchandise:
2. Hardly. The Dominion and the Federation were in war. The Federation and the Romulans were not. I would imagine there were quite a few Federation spies on Romulus. Spcok was there, although not in an ooffcial capacity as a spy, but I would imagine he'd have a few things to tell the Federation. Admittedly, the ambassador 9Wasn't her name T'Pol as well? I might be wrong, it's been a while since I saw that episode). As for the Romulans trying to provoke a war by luring the Enterprise into the Neutral Zone, Picard certainly ventured into the Neutral Zone as well on several occasions, risking a war. What about during the visit to that planet with the probes and the portal doorways, I forget the name but an ancient species had lived there and constructed an empire using those portals. They tried to sneak past the Federation fleet, yes, to battle in the Klingon Civil War. They don't have a Prime Directive, So why does them trying to create a puppet regime in an Alpha Quadrant power=total war and death to the Federation? It's bad, certainly. But it's not near the Domion War-level.
dood, you cray cray. War is bad period. To the Federation it's doubly so.
What!? For Realz? Bores? Dude its a movie about these drug smugglers who team up with this farm boy who just cant wait to apply to the Imperial Academy, and an old guy with psi powers, and, AND, Lazer-swords! You can beat that! Thats high adventure right there! Nothing boring about that.
And anyways, im willing to bet youve seen every single Star Wars movie, all versions of them even!
I've seen parts of like 3 of 'em and that's it. I've actually seen more Star Bores on Family Guy and Robot Chicken than anything else. Cuz it's terrible for many, many reasons. Lemme give you just one: all of them cool powers and lazer swords you like? Yeah, they all go away after one shot of penicillin. How's that for lame?
What!? For Realz? Bores? Dude its a movie about these drug smugglers who team up with this farm boy who just cant wait to apply to the Imperial Academy, and an old guy with psi powers, and, AND, Lazer-swords! You can beat that! Thats high adventure right there! Nothing boring about that.
And anyways, im willing to bet youve seen every single Star Wars movie, all versions of them even!
I've seen parts of like 3 of 'em and that's it. I've actually seen more Star Bores on Family Guy and Robot Chicken than anything else. Cuz it's terrible for many, many reasons. Lemme give you just one: all of them cool powers and lazer swords you like? Yeah, they all go away after one shot of penicillin. How's that for lame?
The "Force" is a disease? Great, a story about the ill saving the universe.
So you agree with me then? Good. I'm glad we could settle this amicably. Now let's move on to Star Bores. That is some seriously racist sci-fi.
Nope.
Although, yes, Star Wars is pretty racist. Especially the new ones.
2. Hardly. The Dominion and the Federation were in war. The Federation and the Romulans were not. I would imagine there were quite a few Federation spies on Romulus. Spcok was there, although not in an ooffcial capacity as a spy, but I would imagine he'd have a few things to tell the Federation. Admittedly, the ambassador 9Wasn't her name T'Pol as well? I might be wrong, it's been a while since I saw that episode). As for the Romulans trying to provoke a war by luring the Enterprise into the Neutral Zone, Picard certainly ventured into the Neutral Zone as well on several occasions, risking a war. What about during the visit to that planet with the probes and the portal doorways, I forget the name but an ancient species had lived there and constructed an empire using those portals. They tried to sneak past the Federation fleet, yes, to battle in the Klingon Civil War. They don't have a Prime Directive, So why does them trying to create a puppet regime in an Alpha Quadrant power=total war and death to the Federation? It's bad, certainly. But it's not near the Domion War-level.
dood, you cray cray. War is bad period. To the Federation it's doubly so.
No. War with the Romulans does not present a existential threat to the entire quadrant.
We're talking current wars in the Middle East vs World War II, here, with the full and certain knowledge that the Germans will kill every individual that doesn't fit their plan for the future of Earth.
No. War with the Romulans does not present a existential threat to the entire quadrant.
We're talking current wars in the Middle East vs World War II, here, with the full and certain knowledge that the Germans will kill every individual that doesn't fit their plan for the future of Earth.
dood, I was addressin' other dood's cray cray notion that war with the Romulans/Klingons wouldn't have happened or, if it did, bother the Federation if Romulus was permitted to install a puppet to lead the Empire. The Dominion was a bigger threat, yes.
And isn't Transformers racist, too? Like, the second one or whatever?
No. War with the Romulans does not present a existential threat to the entire quadrant.
We're talking current wars in the Middle East vs World War II, here, with the full and certain knowledge that the Germans will kill every individual that doesn't fit their plan for the future of Earth.
dood, I was addressin' other dood's cray cray notion that war with the Romulans/Klingons wouldn't have happened or, if it did, bother the Federation if Romulus was permitted to install a puppet to lead the Empire. The Dominion was a bigger threat, yes.
And isn't Transformers racist, too? Like, the second one or whatever?
A bit.
anyway, I think the point is that Picard faced a tough political situation, but one which the Federation could have handled. Had he been facing the threat of invasion from the Dominion allied with the Cardies and the Roms, and was given an opportunity to get the Romulans on the Federation's side, and that opportunity was via shady actions, he'd have done it.
I could see him giving up his commision after the war, but he'd still do it.
Neither man is more moral than the other. One has more reletivistic morals than the other, but not a by a huge degree.
Oh, and 'Cardies'? Really? Talk about racist, man.
I just don't see Picard doing the same. Maybe it's a product of what the two were exposed to. Sisko became Sisko because of the insanely difficult challenges he faced. Picard, while facing some damned insanely difficult challenges himself, didn't really see the same level of notgood on the horizon. He could have with that whole Borg invasion thing but, at the time, he was a Borg and so we can't really know what he was willing to do. And I think that difference is what separates the men. It's why I don't think Picard would have done the things Sisko did. He was, by comparison, more sheltered.
Oh, and 'Cardies'? Really? Talk about racist, man.
Eh, they can handle it. :P
Anyway, that's kind of my point. Season one Sisko wouldnt' have done the same things that he did later on, and Picard would do the same things, if he was commander of DS9 for that whole time. the two men are seperated by personality and command styles and experience, but not by character.
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Eh, they can handle it. :P
You're just lucky Garak wasn't around when you said it.
Anyway, that's kind of my point. Season one Sisko wouldnt' have done the same things that he did later on, and Picard would do the same things, if he was commander of DS9 for that whole time. the two men are seperated by personality and command styles and experience, but not by character.
I'm just not sold. I see Sisko as more loose cannon than Picard overall - not that it's a bad thing. I've seen every episode of both series and I just can't shake that feeling.
Eh, they can handle it. :P
You're just lucky Garak wasn't around when you said it.Anyway, that's kind of my point. Season one Sisko wouldnt' have done the same things that he did later on, and Picard would do the same things, if he was commander of DS9 for that whole time. the two men are seperated by personality and command styles and experience, but not by character.
I'm just not sold. I see Sisko as more loose cannon than Picard overall - not that it's a bad thing. I've seen every episode of both series and I just can't shake that feeling.
Fair enough. And to some extent I agree. Sisko is less attached to the rules, as such. What I'm mostly arguing against is the suggestion that he is less moral than Picard.
2. Hardly. The Dominion and the Federation were in war. The Federation and the Romulans were not. I would imagine there were quite a few Federation spies on Romulus. Spcok was there, although not in an ooffcial capacity as a spy, but I would imagine he'd have a few things to tell the Federation. Admittedly, the ambassador 9Wasn't her name T'Pol as well? I might be wrong, it's been a while since I saw that episode). As for the Romulans trying to provoke a war by luring the Enterprise into the Neutral Zone, Picard certainly ventured into the Neutral Zone as well on several occasions, risking a war. What about during the visit to that planet with the probes and the portal doorways, I forget the name but an ancient species had lived there and constructed an empire using those portals. They tried to sneak past the Federation fleet, yes, to battle in the Klingon Civil War. They don't have a Prime Directive, So why does them trying to create a puppet regime in an Alpha Quadrant power=total war and death to the Federation? It's bad, certainly. But it's not near the Domion War-level.
dood, you cray cray. War is bad period. To the Federation it's doubly so.
Obivously. I'm disputing the idea that as soon as a Romulan puppet regime was installed, the Rumlan-Klingon alliance would have gone to war immediately. I don't think the Cardassians would be too happy about that, or any number of smaller powers. Not the smartest move. As Picard said "It's always a game of chess with the Romulans". They're not renowoned for stupid manuevers.
As for "Star Bores" it's a helluva lot better then watching the Enterprise cruise around meeting new and boring life forms. And I like Star Trek.
Well, if I properly remember, that's an argument with a different poster.
True enough.
So you agree with me then? Good. I'm glad we could settle this amicably. Now let's move on to Star Bores. That is some seriously racist sci-fi.
Nope.
Although, yes, Star Wars is pretty racist. Especially the new ones.
Yes, Star Bores is very racist, but so is Star Trek. Star Trek is just written better, so you don't notice it as much.
Well, if I properly remember, that's an argument with a different poster.
True enough.
Yup, and I'm still right.
Ferengis are a racist caricature of jews.
Very true.
Ferengis are a racist caricature of jews.
Very true.
How is Star Bores better? Is it the overt racism or the sexism? Is it the fact that the main characters can all have their powers removed by a simple trip to their GP doc? Is it the furries? Seriously, which one of those things makes it better?
You were just arguing about how racist Star Trek is, so I'm not even going to go there. How did you get the idea the Force can be removed by a doctor? That's ridiculous.
Yeah, rhe furries are an issue, I'll give you that one.......
That's why the Ewoks never show up in the EU. In maybe 500 or more different SW stories, there are basically no Ewoks. And the Wookiees don't get much love either.
How is Star Bores better? Is it the overt racism or the sexism? Is it the fact that the main characters can all have their powers removed by a simple trip to their GP doc? Is it the furries? Seriously, which one of those things makes it better?
all of them cool powers and lazer swords you like? Yeah, they all go away after one shot of penicillin. How's that for lame?
Ahha! So youve at least sat through the Phantom menace, definitely the worst one of the lot, so if you were willing to sit through that one, well face it man you are a bona fide Star Wars fan!
And any way give Kirk a shot of rednox and he'd be out of commison too!
You were just arguing about how racist Star Trek is, so I'm not even going to go there. How did you get the idea the Force can be removed by a doctor? That's ridiculous.
Nope. I never said ST was racist. I think everyone knows that Star Bores is, though. And how can a doctor completelt remove their kewl powahs? We've been over this: penicillin. They get their powahs from bacteria. Penicillin'll clear that right up for ya.
Yeah, rhe furries are an issue, I'll give you that one.......
That's why the Ewoks never show up in the EU. In maybe 500 or more different SW stories, there are basically no Ewoks. And the Wookiees don't get much love either.
Aren't they like half a movie? Isn't one of 'em a main character?
I notice you didn't address the sexism. I take that as an acceptance of the point.
And now on to a new one: Do you feel the incestuous sexual tension makes Bores better than Trek?
Ahha! So youve at least sat through the Phantom menace, definitely the worst one of the lot, so if you were willing to sit through that one, well face it man you are a bona fide Star Wars fan!
And any way give Kirk a shot of rednox and he'd be out of commison too!
Ummm ... no. I've never seen even one Star Bores movie from start to end and I doubt seriously that anyone on Earth has. It's impossible. I've learned what I have from brief snippets, an article bashing the franchise here and there and fanboys 'defending' the garbage here.
And Kirk has no special powahs to make him cool. He just is. Shoot Luke or Vader with some penicillin and what do you have? Whiney idiots with no ability to do anything cool at all.
Ahha! So youve at least sat through the Phantom menace, definitely the worst one of the lot, so if you were willing to sit through that one, well face it man you are a bona fide Star Wars fan!
And any way give Kirk a shot of rednox and he'd be out of commison too!
Ummm ... no. I've never seen even one Star Bores movie from start to end and I doubt seriously that anyone on Earth has. It's impossible. I've learned what I have from brief snippets, an article bashing the franchise here and there and fanboys 'defending' the garbage here.
And Kirk has no special powahs to make him cool. He just is. Shoot Luke or Vader with some penicillin and what do you have? Whiney idiots with no ability to do anything cool at all.
I just cant believe all this hate you have for Star Wars, you havnt seen the Christmas special have you?
I've seen parts of that, too. It's ... insane. Implied wookie/human sex ... wow. Yeah, yer hero Lucas is a real genius.
So youve seen the wookie porn scene, and yet you still dont like Star Wars? I just dont understand you man!
Have you seen it? It's only good cuz it's insanely terrible. I mean, the argument that Bores is better than Trek cuz it's so horrendously bad it's good makes sense on one level but it's also pretty dumb.
No it doesn't. Like not at all. Ther eis no level wher ethis maks any sense. It's just a terrible franchise. None of the movies are any good. Like at all. You could put up any of the Star Bores movies next to Gymkata and Gymkata would win every single time against every single Star Bores movie.
Would Gymkata win if there weren't any conveniently located pommel horses, though?
You tell me.
Sooo .... no. Got it.
Incorrect. There is only one scene in that clip of a conviniently placed pummel horse. It is at the end, and it is cut short. The rest of that clip is much better than all the Star Bores movies put together. Besides, you hven't even seen the movie. You have no credibility.
Ferengis are a racist caricature of jews.
I haven't noticed any way in which they act like Jewish people, outside of embodying the stereotype of stingy, money obsessed people.
They seem more like a caricature of free market capitalists than anything else.
anyway, the Force isn't an infection. Midichlorians are symbiotic microscopic lifeforms that enhance a person's ability to directly interact with the Force. The Force remains what it always was, but now it's been revealed that living beings interact with the Force via midichlorians.
In other words, penicillin would not reduce a person's ability to interact with the Force.
Ferengis are a racist caricature of jews.
I haven't noticed any way in which they act like Jewish people, outside of embodying the stereotype of stingy, money obsessed people.
They seem more like a caricature of free market capitalists than anything else.
anyway, the Force isn't an infection. Midichlorians are symbiotic microscopic lifeforms that enhance a person's ability to directly interact with the Force. The Force remains what it always was, but now it's been revealed that living beings interact with the Force via midichlorians.
In other words, penicillin would not reduce a person's ability to interact with the Force.
It has been established that you are not sensitive to racist depicitions in sci-fi. No surprise you do not see it with Ferengis.
So in other words, micro-organisms that can be whimped out with a shot. Just use a peneciline bomb against Jedis and Siths and you be their masters.
They're also micro organisms that connect directly to the force, and it's established that the force can effect healing processes. Since force users can be treated medically, it must be assumed that midichlorians protect themselves from the effects of penicillin. This isn't even a stretch, it is simply the logical conclusion based on the premises of the universe.
Now, it has not been established that I'm not sensitive to racism in sci fi properties. You're still wrong about the racism re: Sisko. However, I've also noted the rampant racism in Star Wars, so your statement is probably false.
So, please, back up the claim that Farengi are an analogue to Jewish people, rather than free market capitalists.
Ferengis are a racist caricature of jews.
I haven't noticed any way in which they act like Jewish people, outside of embodying the stereotype of stingy, money obsessed people.
They seem more like a caricature of free market capitalists than anything else.
So you haven't noticed all the things you pointed out?
anyway, the Force isn't an infection. Midichlorians are symbiotic microscopic lifeforms that enhance a person's ability to directly interact with the Force. The Force remains what it always was, but now it's been revealed that living beings interact with the Force via midichlorians.
In other words, penicillin would not reduce a person's ability to interact with the Force.
Yes it would. Read your post again. It is painfully obvious that had anyone in the Star Bores universe had anything resembling an immune system, there would be no Jedi.
It is painfully obvious that had anyone in the Star Bores universe had anything resembling an immune system, there would be no Jedi.
While humorous, your argument is a bit flawed. There are millions of symbiotic microorganisms living within humans without which we would have extreme difficulty surviving and which are not harmed by penicillin.
You would have to find or create an agent to kill off the specific organism that gives force users their power. That's probably not an impossible task, and one has to wonder why it hasn't been done in any of the books.
It is painfully obvious that had anyone in the Star Bores universe had anything resembling an immune system, there would be no Jedi.
While humorous, your argument is a bit flawed. There are millions of symbiotic microorganisms living within humans without which we would have extreme difficulty surviving and which are not harmed by penicillin.
You would have to find or create an agent to kill off the specific organism that gives force users their power. That's probably not an impossible task, and one has to wonder why it hasn't been done in any of the books.
Probably because the main villains are still the force-using Sith*. Better not create your own kryptonite, right?
*I'm guessing that's the case
You would have to find or create an agent to kill off the specific organism that gives force users their power. That's probably not an impossible task, and one has to wonder why it hasn't been done in any of the books.
Because the villains are dumb. It also points to the shoddy writing that goes into Star Bores. Lucas isa no-talent hack.
Note that in real life, while it happens, having a disease hop and develop similarly between different species is still treated as impressive and is often the cause for a major outbreak.
Now, midichlorians manage to live in symbiosis with numerous species that evolved in different conditions. That's some super-microbes, yo.
My 3 year old asked me a qustion the other day, and the answer I gave him was. "magic".
Is this a bad thing?
EDIT: I am a Christian and believe in God.
If your answer is baiting, flaming, arrogant, or douche-bag worthy, I will report it.
So...
My 3 year old asked me a qustion the other day, and the answer I gave him was. "magic".
Is this a bad thing?
Yes
edit: so, what was the question?
So...
My 3 year old asked me a qustion the other day, and the answer I gave him was. "magic".
Is this a bad thing?
Yes
edit: so, what was the question?
I don't remember, but the answer was some complex science thingie, that would have meant the same thing as "magic"...
But I hate not explaing things to my kids, but if I start to explain things, that leads into 2.5 hours of "why" questions...
There is no shame is admitting your ignorance.
A better example would have been to say "let us look it up", and google it.
My ignorance is boundless.
And no.
I would rather explain things that my children ask as I know them.
...
*sigh*
I knew the answer, but I was just lazy... I didn't want to spend the next 2 hours explaining my explanation.
Thanks RM! I had to think for a minute at somebody else prompt...
HS get the rope!
EDIT-It took me forever to type the above... AI'm drunk!~
A better example would have been to say "let us look it up", and google it.
that or this:
no bites...
no bites...
oh btw only
are snitches 
There is no shame is admitting your ignorance.
A better example would have been to say "let us look it up", and google it.
My ignorance is boundless.
And no.
I would rather explain things that my children ask as I know them.
...
*sigh*
I knew the answer, but I was just lazy... I didn't want to spend the next 2 hours explaining my explanation.
Thanks RM! I had to think for a minute at somebody else prompt...
HS get the rope!
EDIT-It took me forever to type the above... AI'm drunk!~
Why would I need to get the rope?
no bites...
oh btw only
There is no shame is admitting your ignorance.
A better example would have been to say "let us look it up", and google it.
My ignorance is boundless.
And no.
I would rather explain things that my children ask as I know them.
...
*sigh*
I knew the answer, but I was just lazy... I didn't want to spend the next 2 hours explaining my explanation.
Thanks RM! I had to think for a minute at somebody else prompt...
HS get the rope!
EDIT-It took me forever to type the above... AI'm drunk!~
Why would I need to get the rope?
You know...
too hang somebody...
You know...
too hang somebody...
Yes, but when I tell you to get the rope, it's because someone has shown themselves to be less than patriotic. Who has done that in this instance? And how does this relate to Star Wars sucking?
Yes, but when I tell you to get the rope, it's because someone has shown themselves to be less than patriotic. Who has done that in this instance? And how does this relate to Star Wars sucking?
i DID IT.
aND I'm drubnk with the caps lock all snickerd up.
Amd I have a Burger King, plastic Star Wars Empre Strikes Back cup that some body is going to give thousands of dollars for...
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I think I prefere sober angry RH to drunk silly-happy RH.
Well, if I change my lifestyle, like I hope tp, I won't be so angry and aggravated all the time.
Also, my doctor approves this as well as the wife...
So, the doctor said to stop smoking noxious weeds, and drink more alcohol, and take those pills he gives me...
That's what you get for collecting Star Wars garbage.
So, the doctor said to stop smoking noxious weeds, and drink more alcohol, and take those pills he gives me...
That's what you get for collecting Star Wars garbage.
I didn't ry..
I just did...
Have you seen it? It's only good cuz it's insanely terrible. I mean, the argument that Bores is better than Trek cuz it's so horrendously bad it's good makes sense on one level but it's also pretty dumb.
Have I seen it? HAVE I SEEN IT!? Dood I have it on DVD! Hell yeah!!! And any way you really cant blame the Christmas special on Lucas, he had zero involvment with it, and then when he did see it he made sure it was never aired again and destroyed the orginal cut.
But seriously I like the movies, I think theyre good in a very pulp fiction sorta way, which is what he was going for, and by pulp fiction Im not talkin Travolta, im talkin like actual pulp fiction stuff, Doc Savage, Tarzan, John Carter, stuff like that.
And another thing, The success of Star Wars (yes it was successful) opened the doors for alot of other Science Fictiony stuff, chances are without the success of Star Wars the Star Trek movie would have never been made! And have you seen the 1st Trek movie? Oh god now that was terrible, far worse than anything Lucas ever did, including Howard the Duck.
So...
My 3 year old asked me a qustion the other day, and the answer I gave him was. "magic".
Is this a bad thing?
EDIT: I am a Christian and believe in God.
If your answer is baiting, flaming, arrogant, or douche-bag worthy, I will report it.
Yes, cuz you were a lazy
ing parent.However, it would have been able to say "Physics did it" or "Son, that is magic. Magic known as physics". Something like that.
Racism.
Yeah, there is. It's from the 1970s. Take the Star Trek movies fromthat v time and I'll show you racism too.
Sexism.
See above.
"Bores"
Ironic, since this is the typical argument against Star Trek. But I like Star Trek, so I won't go there.
"It sucks"
This is just stupid. back it up please with something reasonable. Oh, and tell me what Sci-Fi you like HS so I can say how much it sucks.
Force usage affected by Penicillin.
No. They are living organisms, yes. They also provide you with the power to do rificulous things, which are practically magic. So forgive if I call
on this one.And that's it. Anything else?
You were just arguing about how racist Star Trek is, so I'm not even going to go there. How did you get the idea the Force can be removed by a doctor? That's ridiculous.
Nope. I never said ST was racist. I think everyone knows that Star Bores is, though. And how can a doctor completelt remove their kewl powahs? We've been over this: penicillin. They get their powahs from bacteria. Penicillin'll clear that right up for ya.Yeah, rhe furries are an issue, I'll give you that one.......
That's why the Ewoks never show up in the EU. In maybe 500 or more different SW stories, there are basically no Ewoks. And the Wookiees don't get much love either.
Aren't they like half a movie? Isn't one of 'em a main character?
I notice you didn't address the sexism. I take that as an acceptance of the point.
And now on to a new one: Do you feel the incestuous sexual tension makes Bores better than Trek?
Nah. Everyone hates the Ewoks, they aren't in any of the books.
"Incestous sexual tension". You mean for like 5 minutes in ESB?
If that's directed at me, which I assume it is, ..... It applies to the whole damn thread.
If that's directed at me, which I assume it is, ..... It applies to the whole damn thread.
Yeah, pretty much.
Humans assume too much, just like they are too opinionative...
One of the drawbacks of sentience... Many silly humans try to become superior by shoving opinions around like they are rightful rule.
dood, Star Trek aired the first interracial kiss ever. Fact, holmes. Pure fact. Star Bores? It showed some loser dood kissin' his sister. I hear it played well in West Virginia.
Yeah, it also had Uhura relegated to being a communications officer. They had their token African American/Asian and eeveryone else was white.
dood, Star Trek aired the first interracial kiss ever. Fact, holmes. Pure fact. Star Bores? It showed some loser dood kissin' his sister. I hear it played well in West Virginia.
And don't forget, Luke was a farmer. It's like Lucas was making a redneck joke, and people defend him for it.
dood, Star Trek aired the first interracial kiss ever. Fact, holmes. Pure fact. Star Bores? It showed some loser dood kissin' his sister. I hear it played well in West Virginia.
Yeah, it also had Uhura relegated to being a communications officer. They had their token African American/Asian and eeveryone else was white.
What did Star Bores have? One black guy that was a criminal? Darth Vader, you say? Chasing Amy has a good explaination regarding Darth Vader and Star Bores.
dood, Star Trek aired the first interracial kiss ever. Fact, holmes. Pure fact. Star Bores? It showed some loser dood kissin' his sister. I hear it played well in West Virginia.
And don't forget, Luke was a farmer. It's like Lucas was making a redneck joke, and people defend him for it.
lol, this made me laugh.
Yeah, it also had Uhura relegated to being a communications officer. They had their token African American/Asian and eeveryone else was white.
Do you know what 'officer' means? It means 'not some schlub'. ;) And she was bridge staff, too. They stuck Scotty in friggin' engineering. He's white. Uhura had a better, more front and center position than Scotty did, dawg. I have no idea why you think an incestuous kiss is better than an interracial one. You're pretty messed up, broski.
Ferengis are a racist caricature of jews.
I haven't noticed any way in which they act like Jewish people, outside of embodying the stereotype of stingy, money obsessed people.
They seem more like a caricature of free market capitalists than anything else.
So you haven't noticed all the things you pointed out?anyway, the Force isn't an infection. Midichlorians are symbiotic microscopic lifeforms that enhance a person's ability to directly interact with the Force. The Force remains what it always was, but now it's been revealed that living beings interact with the Force via midichlorians.
In other words, penicillin would not reduce a person's ability to interact with the Force.
Yes it would. Read your post again. It is painfully obvious that had anyone in the Star Bores universe had anything resembling an immune system, there would be no Jedi.
OK, that last bit is complete absurdity and you know it. Our bodies have all manner of micro organisms. Our immune system doesn't kill them off, because it knows they're supposed to be there.
As to Farengi, I'm a bit offended that you associate Jews so much with greed and stingyness that you can't see any other way to interpret the Farengi.
their culture has no similarity to Jewish culture. They are obsessively randian self interest style capitalistic to the point of viewing charity as disgustingly alien, which has nothing to do with Jews, even in stereotype. They aren't focused on banking, which would be a common Jewish stereotype.
Seriously, if you see money grubber, and can't see anything else but Jew, the issue lies with you.
So...
My 3 year old asked me a qustion the other day, and the answer I gave him was. "magic".
Is this a bad thing?
EDIT: I am a Christian and believe in God.
If your answer is baiting, flaming, arrogant, or douche-bag worthy, I will report it.
Yes. the truth is important. "It's hard to explain" followed by a really simplified answer, and a clear "There's more to it, but it's really complicated." would be better.
dood, Star Trek aired the first interracial kiss ever. Fact, holmes. Pure fact. Star Bores? It showed some loser dood kissin' his sister. I hear it played well in West Virginia.
Yeah, it also had Uhura relegated to being a communications officer. They had their token African American/Asian and eeveryone else was white.
Not the writer's fault. Blame network racism for that one. Originally, the first mate was going to be either black or a woman, or both. Can't remember right now.
OK, that last bit is complete absurdity and you know it. Our bodies have all manner of micro organisms. Our immune system doesn't kill them off, because it knows they're supposed to be there.
Except they weren't there to begin with. The original tragedy didn't mention them, like at all. Then Lucas makes the pre-tragedy tragedy movies, and what is suddenly there? That's right, midichlorians. So obviously midichlorians are foeign bodies. Thus the being's immune system should have taken care of them. So yeah, not absurd at all.
As to Farengi, I'm a bit offended that you associate Jews so much with greed and stingyness that you can't see any other way to interpret the Farengi.
their culture has no similarity to Jewish culture. They are obsessively randian self interest style capitalistic to the point of viewing charity as disgustingly alien, which has nothing to do with Jews, even in stereotype. They aren't focused on banking, which would be a common Jewish stereotype.
Seriously, if you see money grubber, and can't see anything else but Jew, the issue lies with you.
Hey, don't get snippy with me, Brobi-Wan Kenobi. You're the one that pointed all those things out. If you don't want to be offended, don't post such racist things.
dood, Star Trek aired the first interracial kiss ever. Fact, holmes. Pure fact. Star Bores? It showed some loser dood kissin' his sister. I hear it played well in West Virginia.
you need to watch that episode again, they didnt actually kiss, sure they made it look like they did, but their lips never met and he didnt slip her the tongue, its all in William Shatners book.
ZB, you made an excellent case, but keep in mind that "communications officer" basically means telephone operator. That's a stereotypical woman's job.
HS has said so many ridiculous things by now that I'm done with this thread.
So in other words, you can't refute my points, but are so loyal to Lucas that you won't admit he wrote a terrible script and then made it even worse, gotcha. ;)
ZB, you made an excellent case, but keep in mind that "communications officer" basically means telephone operator. That's a stereotypical woman's job.
Actually, before Kirk took comand of the U.S.S. Enterprise, the communications officer was Garrison, played by Adamn Roarke, a man. Uhura, a woman, took Garrison's job and his lunch money. So yeah, that "stereotypical woman's job," was actually a man's job first.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture-Sucked!
Star Wars (Episode 4, you know the first one) Kicked Ass!
Star Trek II Kicked Ass!
Empire Strikes Back: Kicked Ass!
Star Trek III-Sucked!
Return of the Jedi -Kicked Ass!
Star Trek IV Kicked... well it was alright anyway.
Phantom Menace-Sucked!
Star Trek V-Sucked!
Attack of the Clones-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VI-Sucked!
Revenge of the Sith-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VII-Sucked!
The Clone Wars (Animated, it counts cause it was released in theaters)-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VIII was actually pretty good, and all the other ones after that really sucked, Insurection really stands out as sucking exceptionally bad.
So all in all, yeah I got to give it to Star Wars, May the Force be With You!
OK, that last bit is complete absurdity and you know it. Our bodies have all manner of micro organisms. Our immune system doesn't kill them off, because it knows they're supposed to be there.
Except they weren't there to begin with. The original tragedy didn't mention them, like at all. Then Lucas makes the pre-tragedy tragedy movies, and what is suddenly there? That's right, midichlorians. So obviously midichlorians are foeign bodies. Thus the being's immune system should have taken care of them. So yeah, not absurd at all.
That literally doesn't make any sense.
You're suggesting that because the midichlorians are a concept that is not presented in ep 4-6, and are revealed/introduced in ep 1-3, they don't exist in part of the canon of the universe, and thus must be foreign bodies?
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, outside of "I think Jar Jar Binks was a good addition to the franchise", and that resulted in me spit taking whiskey in someone's face, and refusing to apologize because what they'd said was infinitly worse.
..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />As to Farengi, I'm a bit offended that you associate Jews so much with greed and stingyness that you can't see any other way to interpret the Farengi.
their culture has no similarity to Jewish culture. They are obsessively randian self interest style capitalistic to the point of viewing charity as disgustingly alien, which has nothing to do with Jews, even in stereotype. They aren't focused on banking, which would be a common Jewish stereotype.
Seriously, if you see money grubber, and can't see anything else but Jew, the issue lies with you.
Hey, don't get snippy with me, Brobi-Wan Kenobi. You're the one that pointed all those things out. If you don't want to be offended, don't post such racist things.
I'll get snippy with whomever I please, thank you.
And don't try to turn this around. You suggest that Farengi are a caricature of the Jewish people. I point out that they are, in fact, a caricature of free market capitalism run rampant, and you insist on the Jewish angle. The Jewish stereotypes are well known. Listing them as part of a refutation of the supremely misguided correlation you've invented does not constitute posting racist things.
Ok for all you Star Trek nuts out there, lets break it down, kay? Lets take a good look at the movies, im not counting tv shows, cartoons, comic books, merchandising and the like, we all know Star Wars wins in that department anyways.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture-Sucked!
Star Wars (Episode 4, you know the first one) Kicked Ass!
Star Trek II Kicked Ass!
Empire Strikes Back: Kicked Ass!
Star Trek III-Sucked!
Return of the Jedi -Kicked Ass!
Star Trek IV Kicked... well it was alright anyway.
Phantom Menace-Sucked!
Star Trek V-Sucked!
Attack of the Clones-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VI-Sucked!
Revenge of the Sith-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VII-Sucked!
The Clone Wars (Animated, it counts cause it was released in theaters)-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VIII was actually pretty good, and all the other ones after that really sucked, Insurection really stands out as sucking exceptionally bad.
So all in all, yeah I got to give it to Star Wars, May the Force be With You!
Anyway is never plural.
Pet peeves aside, Nemesis is clearly the worst film of both franchises, and Attack of The Clones is terrible. Insurrection is middling.
Ok for all you Star Trek nuts out there, lets break it down, kay? Lets take a good look at the movies, im not counting tv shows, cartoons, comic books, merchandising and the like, we all know Star Wars wins in that department anyways.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture-Sucked!
Star Wars (Episode 4, you know the first one) Kicked Ass!
Star Trek II Kicked Ass!
Empire Strikes Back: Kicked Ass!
Star Trek III-Sucked!
Return of the Jedi -Kicked Ass!
Star Trek IV Kicked... well it was alright anyway.
Phantom Menace-Sucked!
Star Trek V-Sucked!
Attack of the Clones-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VI-Sucked!
Revenge of the Sith-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VII-Sucked!
The Clone Wars (Animated, it counts cause it was released in theaters)-Kicked Ass!
Star Trek VIII was actually pretty good, and all the other ones after that really sucked, Insurection really stands out as sucking exceptionally bad.
So all in all, yeah I got to give it to Star Wars, May the Force be With You!
Anyway is never plural.
Pet peeves aside, Nemesis is clearly the worst film of both franchises, and Attack of The Clones is terrible. Insurrection is middling.
Nemesis wasnt nearly as bad as Insurection, and Insurection wasnt nearly as bad as The Motion Picture. And what are you talking about? Attack of the Clones was Awesome! Probably my favorite of the prequels, It had everything I wanted to see in a Star Wars Prequel, Yoda with a lightsaber, Anakin goin darkside, An army of Lightsaber weilding Jedi Knights, An army of Mandalorians, Oh and JarJar finally did something useful!
It showed some loser dood kissin' his sister. I hear it played well in West Virginia.
I'm from WV dood...
I don't appreciate talk like that... and neither does my sister...
OK, that last bit is complete absurdity and you know it. Our bodies have all manner of micro organisms. Our immune system doesn't kill them off, because it knows they're supposed to be there.
Except they weren't there to begin with. The original tragedy didn't mention them, like at all. Then Lucas makes the pre-tragedy tragedy movies, and what is suddenly there? That's right, midichlorians. So obviously midichlorians are foeign bodies. Thus the being's immune system should have taken care of them. So yeah, not absurd at all.
That literally doesn't make any sense.
You're suggesting that because the midichlorians are a concept that is not presented in ep 4-6, and are revealed/introduced in ep 1-3, they don't exist in part of the canon of the universe, and thus must be foreign bodies?
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, outside of "I think Jar Jar Binks was a good addition to the franchise", and that resulted in me spit taking whiskey in someone's face, and refusing to apologize because what they'd said was infinitly worse...."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />As to Farengi, I'm a bit offended that you associate Jews so much with greed and stingyness that you can't see any other way to interpret the Farengi.
their culture has no similarity to Jewish culture. They are obsessively randian self interest style capitalistic to the point of viewing charity as disgustingly alien, which has nothing to do with Jews, even in stereotype. They aren't focused on banking, which would be a common Jewish stereotype.
Seriously, if you see money grubber, and can't see anything else but Jew, the issue lies with you.
Hey, don't get snippy with me, Brobi-Wan Kenobi. You're the one that pointed all those things out. If you don't want to be offended, don't post such racist things.
I'll get snippy with whomever I please, thank you.
And don't try to turn this around. You suggest that Farengi are a caricature of the Jewish people. I point out that they are, in fact, a caricature of free market capitalism run rampant, and you insist on the Jewish angle. The Jewish stereotypes are well known. Listing them as part of a refutation of the supremely misguided correlation you've invented does not constitute posting racist things.
Bad Wolf got you HS...
I want to see you talk your way out of/ away from this...
OK, that last bit is complete absurdity and you know it. Our bodies have all manner of micro organisms. Our immune system doesn't kill them off, because it knows they're supposed to be there.
Except they weren't there to begin with. The original tragedy didn't mention them, like at all. Then Lucas makes the pre-tragedy tragedy movies, and what is suddenly there? That's right, midichlorians. So obviously midichlorians are foeign bodies. Thus the being's immune system should have taken care of them. So yeah, not absurd at all.
That literally doesn't make any sense.
You're suggesting that because the midichlorians are a concept that is not presented in ep 4-6, and are revealed/introduced in ep 1-3, they don't exist in part of the canon of the universe, and thus must be foreign bodies?
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, outside of "I think Jar Jar Binks was a good addition to the franchise", and that resulted in me spit taking whiskey in someone's face, and refusing to apologize because what they'd said was infinitly worse...."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />As to Farengi, I'm a bit offended that you associate Jews so much with greed and stingyness that you can't see any other way to interpret the Farengi.
their culture has no similarity to Jewish culture. They are obsessively randian self interest style capitalistic to the point of viewing charity as disgustingly alien, which has nothing to do with Jews, even in stereotype. They aren't focused on banking, which would be a common Jewish stereotype.
Seriously, if you see money grubber, and can't see anything else but Jew, the issue lies with you.
Hey, don't get snippy with me, Brobi-Wan Kenobi. You're the one that pointed all those things out. If you don't want to be offended, don't post such racist things.
I'll get snippy with whomever I please, thank you.
And don't try to turn this around. You suggest that Farengi are a caricature of the Jewish people. I point out that they are, in fact, a caricature of free market capitalism run rampant, and you insist on the Jewish angle. The Jewish stereotypes are well known. Listing them as part of a refutation of the supremely misguided correlation you've invented does not constitute posting racist things.
Bad Wolf got you HS...
I want to see you talk your way out of/ away from this...
I just woke up. Mind if I get some breakfast first?
Attack of the Clones-Sucked Balls!
Revenge of the Sith-Sucked Balls!
Seriously, dude. Episodes 1-3 were all so bad they made me want to gag.
It showed some loser dood kissin' his sister. I hear it played well in West Virginia.
I'm from WV dood...
I don't appreciate talk like that... and neither does my sister...
I'm sorry you regret the time you were with your sister.
HS has said so many ridiculous things by now that I'm done with this thread.
So in other words, you can't refute my points, but are so loyal to Lucas that you won't admit he wrote a terrible script and then made it even worse, gotcha. ;)ZB, you made an excellent case, but keep in mind that "communications officer" basically means telephone operator. That's a stereotypical woman's job.
Actually, before Kirk took comand of the U.S.S. Enterprise, the communications officer was Garrison, played by Adamn Roarke, a man. Uhura, a woman, took Garrison's job and his lunch money. So yeah, that "stereotypical woman's job," was actually a man's job first.
No. I mean like saying that something sucks with no context. And I seem to remember a post from you saying that there's "nothing objective" about how much Doctor Who sucks, but it's gone now............
Attack of the Clones-Sucked Balls!
Revenge of the Sith-Sucked Balls!
Seriously, dude. Episodes 1-3 were all so bad they made me want to gag.
It is true. Those three films were really painful and useless.
Agreed. I don't really like the movies too much. The EU is what's good. Better then "Riker gets a ship, Borg invade, Borg leave all happy"
That literally doesn't make any sense.
You're suggesting that because the midichlorians are a concept that is not presented in ep 4-6, and are revealed/introduced in ep 1-3, they don't exist in part of the canon of the universe, and thus must be foreign bodies?
What is so hard to understand about that? Really, think about it. If these things had always been around, don't you think Yoda or Kenobi would have mentioned something about it in the first three terrible movies that were made?
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, outside of "I think Jar Jar Binks was a good addition to the franchise", and that resulted in me spit taking whiskey in someone's face, and refusing to apologize because what they'd said was infinitly worse.
What kind of whiskey was it?
I'll get snippy with whomever I please, thank you.
It's pretty pointless to get snippy with whomever you want. You should get snippy with people who deserve it., like the DS9 writers.
And don't try to turn this around. You suggest that Farengi are a caricature of the Jewish people. I point out that they are, in fact, a caricature of free market capitalism run rampant, and you insist on the Jewish angle.
Yes, and one of the stereotypes of Jewish people is that they are runnaway capitalist. As you point out, that is what the Ferengi are. Are you going to deny that that is one of the stereotypical views of Jewish people?
The Jewish stereotypes are well known. Listing them as part of a refutation of the supremely misguided correlation you've invented does not constitute posting racist things.
Hey, you're the one that said all those things. I just agreed with you. As for the "misguided correlation that I invented"... yeah, no, that idea has been around.
Example 1
HS has said so many ridiculous things by now that I'm done with this thread.
So in other words, you can't refute my points, but are so loyal to Lucas that you won't admit he wrote a terrible script and then made it even worse, gotcha. ;)ZB, you made an excellent case, but keep in mind that "communications officer" basically means telephone operator. That's a stereotypical woman's job.
Actually, before Kirk took comand of the U.S.S. Enterprise, the communications officer was Garrison, played by Adamn Roarke, a man. Uhura, a woman, took Garrison's job and his lunch money. So yeah, that "stereotypical woman's job," was actually a man's job first.
No. I mean like saying that something sucks with no context. And I seem to remember a post from you saying that there's "nothing objective" about how much Doctor Who sucks, but it's gone now............
Actually, I said there is nothing subjective about how much Doctor Who sucks. It's post #32. It is still there. Also, it is correct.
HS has said so many ridiculous things by now that I'm done with this thread.
So in other words, you can't refute my points, but are so loyal to Lucas that you won't admit he wrote a terrible script and then made it even worse, gotcha. ;)ZB, you made an excellent case, but keep in mind that "communications officer" basically means telephone operator. That's a stereotypical woman's job.
Actually, before Kirk took comand of the U.S.S. Enterprise, the communications officer was Garrison, played by Adamn Roarke, a man. Uhura, a woman, took Garrison's job and his lunch money. So yeah, that "stereotypical woman's job," was actually a man's job first.
No. I mean like saying that something sucks with no context. And I seem to remember a post from you saying that there's "nothing objective" about how much Doctor Who sucks, but it's gone now............
Actually, I said there is nothing subjective about how much Doctor Who sucks. It's post #32. It is still there. Also, it is correct.
My mistake then. Like I said though, back it up and give us some SciFi you like so we can randomly say how much it sucks.
Also, to the original post of this chain, I'm not loyal to Lucas at all. See above.
Someone else having the job dosen't make it any less sexist. If you are really trying to say that the original Star Trek wasn't sexist and racist, you're deluding yourself.
My mistake then. Like I said though, back it up and give us some SciFi you like so we can randomly say how much it sucks.
Why would I waste my time telling you what I like when you are just going to randomly tell me how it sucks. I don't want randomness. I want you to take your time and put some effort into your critique. Otherwise, you are being lazy and wasting my time.
Also, to the original post of this chain, I'm not loyal to Lucas at all. See above.
Someone else having the job dosen't make it any less sexist. If you are really trying to say that the original Star Trek wasn't sexist and racist, you're deluding yourself.
I haven't said that the original Star Trek wasn't racist. In fact, I the one that started the wole discussion about Star Trek (DS9) being racist. I'm just saying you are wrong about Uhura's role.
My mistake then. Like I said though, back it up and give us some SciFi you like so we can randomly say how much it sucks.
Why would I waste my time telling you what I like when you are just going to randomly tell me how it sucks. I don't want randomness. I want you to take your time and put some effort into your critique. Otherwise, you are being lazy and wasting my timeAlso, to the original post of this chain, I'm not loyal to Lucas at all. See above.
Someone else having the job dosen't make it any less sexist. If you are really trying to say that the original Star Trek wasn't sexist and racist, you're deluding yourself.
I haven't said that the original Star Trek wasn't racist. In fact, I the one that started the wole discussion about Star Trek (DS9) being racist. I'm just saying you are wrong about Uhura's role.
That's exactly what you'be done on more then one occassion lol.
Alright, fair enough. This thread is like a giant moshpit of fandoms, I got confused.
My mistake then. Like I said though, back it up and give us some SciFi you like so we can randomly say how much it sucks.
Why would I waste my time telling you what I like when you are just going to randomly tell me how it sucks. I don't want randomness. I want you to take your time and put some effort into your critique. Otherwise, you are being lazy and wasting my timeAlso, to the original post of this chain, I'm not loyal to Lucas at all. See above.
Someone else having the job dosen't make it any less sexist. If you are really trying to say that the original Star Trek wasn't sexist and racist, you're deluding yourself.
I haven't said that the original Star Trek wasn't racist. In fact, I the one that started the wole discussion about Star Trek (DS9) being racist. I'm just saying you are wrong about Uhura's role.
That's exactly what you'be done on more then one occassion lol.
Prove it.
My mistake then. Like I said though, back it up and give us some SciFi you like so we can randomly say how much it sucks.
Why would I waste my time telling you what I like when you are just going to randomly tell me how it sucks. I don't want randomness. I want you to take your time and put some effort into your critique. Otherwise, you are being lazy and wasting my timeAlso, to the original post of this chain, I'm not loyal to Lucas at all. See above.
Someone else having the job dosen't make it any less sexist. If you are really trying to say that the original Star Trek wasn't sexist and racist, you're deluding yourself.
I haven't said that the original Star Trek wasn't racist. In fact, I the one that started the wole discussion about Star Trek (DS9) being racist. I'm just saying you are wrong about Uhura's role.
That's exactly what you'be done on more then one occassion lol.
Prove it.
Aug 26, 2012 -- 7:27PM, CorranHornIsAwesome wrote:
The only thing you have proven is that I am correct, again. ;)
And you me lol.
The only thing you have proven is that I am correct, again. ;)
And you me lol.
No, you're still wrong.
The only thing you have proven is that I am correct, again. ;)
And you me lol.
No, you're still wrong.
In what way?
Attack of the Clones-Sucked Balls!
Revenge of the Sith-Sucked Balls!
Seriously, dude. Episodes 1-3 were all so bad they made me want to gag.
It is true. Those three films were really painful and useless.
Agreed. I don't really like the movies too much. The EU is what's good. Better then "Riker gets a ship, Borg invade, Borg leave all happy"
Im beggining to see the problem here, you all have horrible taste in movies, if you all think that the Prequels were worse than Insurection, you all wouldnt know a good movie if it came up and bit you in the ass and said "hey look at me! Im a good movie"
Especially you RM, wantin to see that Transformers kid naked!
Attack of the Clones-Sucked Balls!
Revenge of the Sith-Sucked Balls!
Seriously, dude. Episodes 1-3 were all so bad they made me want to gag.
It is true. Those three films were really painful and useless.
Agreed. I don't really like the movies too much. The EU is what's good. Better then "Riker gets a ship, Borg invade, Borg leave all happy"
Im beggining to see the problem here, you all have horrible taste in movies, if you all think that the Prequels were worse than Insurection, you all wouldnt know a good movie if it came up and bit you in the ass and said "hey look at me! Im a good movie"
Especially you RM, wantin to see that Transformers kid naked!
I hated Insurrection. It felt so....small......
Im beggining to see the problem here, you all have horrible taste in movies, if you all think that the Prequels were worse than Insurection, you all wouldnt know a good movie if it came up and bit you in the ass and said "hey look at me! Im a good movie"
Especially you RM, wantin to see that Transformers kid naked!
I didn't say they were worse than Insurrection. I said they were so bad they almost made me gag.
Attack of the Clones-Sucked Balls!
Revenge of the Sith-Sucked Balls!
Seriously, dude. Episodes 1-3 were all so bad they made me want to gag.
It is true. Those three films were really painful and useless.
Agreed. I don't really like the movies too much. The EU is what's good. Better then "Riker gets a ship, Borg invade, Borg leave all happy"
Im beggining to see the problem here, you all have horrible taste in movies, if you all think that the Prequels were worse than Insurection, you all wouldnt know a good movie if it came up and bit you in the ass and said "hey look at me! Im a good movie"
I good movie, by definition, wouldn't have to do that to be noticed.
Im beggining to see the problem here, you all have horrible taste in movies, if you all think that the Prequels were worse than Insurection, you all wouldnt know a good movie if it came up and bit you in the ass and said "hey look at me! Im a good movie"
Especially you RM, wantin to see that Transformers kid naked!
I didn't say they were worse than Insurrection. I said they were so bad they almost made me gag.
It's true.
What is so hard to understand about that? Really, think about it. If these things had always been around, don't you think Yoda or Kenobi would have mentioned something about it in the first three terrible movies that were made?That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, outside of "I think Jar Jar Binks was a good addition to the franchise", and that resulted in me spit taking whiskey in someone's face, and refusing to apologize because what they'd said was infinitly worse.
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It was just Jim Beam. Had it been good whiskey, I'd have felt bad for the waste.
As to midichlorians, both jedi masters are known liars. Why would we expect them to reveal something like that, that will only distract Luke from the lessons of mental control and spiritual purity they're trying to teach him to avoid him being turned to the Dark Side by his father? They didn't even tell Luke that Vader is his father!
Farengi: OK, you didn't invent it. That doesn't give it any more validity, but I'll concede that you're not alone in your absurd position.
It was just Jim Beam. Had it been good whiskey, I'd have felt bad for the waste.
Why would you drink Jim Beam? Do you hate yourself that much?
As to midichlorians, both jedi masters are known liars. Why would we expect them to reveal something like that, that will only distract Luke from the lessons of mental control and spiritual purity they're trying to teach him to avoid him being turned to the Dark Side by his father? They didn't even tell Luke that Vader is his father!
And they are supposed to be the "good guys?" Damn, Lucas really is a hack writer. Why do people even like that trash?
Farengi: OK, you didn't invent it. That doesn't give it any more validity, but I'll concede that you're not alone in your absurd position.
It seems to have hit a nerve with you. It must not be so absurd if you are so vehemently defending DS9 and the terribly racist Ferengi.
It was just Jim Beam. Had it been good whiskey, I'd have felt bad for the waste.
Why would you drink Jim Beam? Do you hate yourself that much?As to midichlorians, both jedi masters are known liars. Why would we expect them to reveal something like that, that will only distract Luke from the lessons of mental control and spiritual purity they're trying to teach him to avoid him being turned to the Dark Side by his father? They didn't even tell Luke that Vader is his father!
And they are supposed to be the "good guys?" Damn, Lucas really is a hack writer. Why do people even like that trash?Farengi: OK, you didn't invent it. That doesn't give it any more validity, but I'll concede that you're not alone in your absurd position.
It seems to have hit a nerve with you. It must not be so absurd if you are so vehemently defending DS9 and the terribly racist Ferengi.
I don't apologize for, or explain my tastes in alchohol.
If you think it takes hack writing to create "good guys" that are also liars, then you have no business commented on anyone's opinions on fiction, because your own are incredibly underdeveloped.
I argue against things which are incorrect. No vehemence is required, or currectly present.
I don't apologize for, or explain my lack of tastes in alchohol.
If you think it takes hack writing to create "good guys" that are also liars, then you have no business commented on anyone's opinions on fiction, because your own are incredibly underdeveloped.
So using the same old trite character is good writing?
I argue against things which are incorrect. No vehemence is required, or currectly present.
Who are you arguing against?
If you think it takes hack writing to create "good guys" that are also liars, then you have no business commented on anyone's opinions on fiction, because your own are incredibly underdeveloped.
So using the same old trite character is good writing?
?
As opposed to the wholly benevolent, always honest, one sided hero?
Yeah, that's not bad writing, or trite.
So this is why Dr. Who is a good show?
Nah, with DW ya either like it or ya don't.
So this is why Dr. Who is a good show?
No, this is why Dr Who is a bad show. I think.
So this is why Dr. Who is a good show?
No, this is why Dr Who is a bad show. I think.
You think too much and that is probably why you see Dr. Who and a bad show and junk. Hmmmm
So this is why Dr. Who is a good show?
No, this is why Dr Who is a bad show. I think.
Maybe after Tom Baker stopped being the Doctor.
Agreed. At least Dr Who has a chick with an accent.
You mean Leela?
How can you not like a chick dressed in soft leather, holding a crossbow, and speaks with a British accent?!
HS Im still waiting on your sci fi picks... ;)
Would you settle for a shovel?
HS Im still waiting on your sci fi picks... ;)
Would you settle for a shovel?
HS Im still waiting on your sci fi picks... ;)
Would you settle for a shovel?
Both cool and witty. Nice one.
So this is why Dr. Who is a good show?
Dr Who is good for many reasons. Not least of which, the complexity of the primary character.
I dunno, Dr. Who just hasnt been the same, Tom Baker was like the peak of Dr Who, IMO, I havnt seen too many of the new ones, but it seems like they have a bigger budget so theyre focusing more on effects than on the story, Im not saying thats the case, but from the few (like 4 or 5) episides i have seen that seemed to be the case.
There is still a big focus on story especially within a season or two (prob more so within the arc of a certain companion) but with a bigger budget they can have more effects for entertainment and spread the story out across many episodes. Well also they do a good job hiding details within episodes to have them later pop back up as the season/arc finally comes about. So often it might seem like a sort of loose story with little inter connectedness, but by season end it all gets pulled together nicely IMO.
I dunno, Dr. Who just hasnt been the same, Tom Baker was like the peak of Dr Who, IMO, I havnt seen too many of the new ones, but it seems like they have a bigger budget so theyre focusing more on effects than on the story, Im not saying thats the case, but from the few (like 4 or 5) episides i have seen that seemed to be the case.
There is still a big focus on story especially within a season or two (prob more so within the arc of a certain companion) but with a bigger budget they can have more effects for entertainment and spread the story out across many episodes. Well also they do a good job hiding details within episodes to have them later pop back up as the season/arc finally comes about. So often it might seem like a sort of loose story with little inter connectedness, but by season end it all gets pulled together nicely IMO.
Yeah.
Basically people without the patience to understand how things link together pretend to know about the show, and criticize it.
Not really what I was saying. Just saying that it is still very much story and drama based and whatnot but its a bit of a different way they go about it. In a whole the show is a bit corny and if you go in expecting something completely different then of course you aint going to like it. The show is a bad show in a sense because of its a bit of corny nature but then again it's not trying to be a serious show like much of the star treck or battlestar galactica remake and whatnot. its a corny sci fi drama/comedy not a serious one. Its more for people that like their sci fi more light hearted than a nitty gritty grey.
When they need the show to be dramatic, it does it though.
So this is why Dr. Who is a good show?
Dr Who is good for many reasons. Not least of which, the complexity of the primary character.
You're kidding, right?
Not in the slightest.
Anyone who says Dr Who is good has to be kidding - er, at least that's what we need to assume. Assuming any other reason would be ... mean. Mayhap more accurate but really not nice.
Considering that you almost have to lack any understanding of what makes a good story in order to think Doctor Who isn't good, it's hard to take much offense at such a comment.
Not really what I was saying. Just saying that it is still very much story and drama based and whatnot but its a bit of a different way they go about it. In a whole the show is a bit corny and if you go in expecting something completely different then of course you aint going to like it. The show is a bad show in a sense because of its a bit of corny nature but then again it's not trying to be a serious show like much of the star treck or battlestar galactica remake and whatnot. its a corny sci fi drama/comedy not a serious one. Its more for people that like their sci fi more light hearted than a nitty gritty grey.
When they need the show to be dramatic, it does it though.
Quite. Just rewatched Cold Blood, from 11's first season, where Rory dies, and well...damnit this is a good season.
For some reason, most of the people I've known in real life who dislike the show have been somewhat lacking in empathy. Either jerks, or just distant sort of people. Not sure what causes the correlation, or if it extends any further than my own circle of aquaintences, of course.
Anyone who says Dr Who is good has to be kidding - er, at least that's what we need to assume. Assuming any other reason would be ... mean. Mayhap more accurate but really not nice.
Considering that you almost have to lack any understanding of what makes a good story in order to think Doctor Who isn't good, it's hard to take much offense at such a comment.
So what makes for a "good" story?
Quite. Just rewatched Cold Blood, from 11's first season, where Rory dies, and well...damnit this is a good season.
Are they finally killing it?
Anyone who says Dr Who is good has to be kidding - er, at least that's what we need to assume. Assuming any other reason would be ... mean. Mayhap more accurate but really not nice.
Considering that you almost have to lack any understanding of what makes a good story in order to think Doctor Who isn't good, it's hard to take much offense at such a comment.
So what makes for a "good" story?Quite. Just rewatched Cold Blood, from 11's first season, where Rory dies, and well...damnit this is a good season.
Are they finally killing it?
Engaging characters, emotional evokation, mixture of humour and drama (the exact mix depends on the purpose of the story, of course, but a drama without any levity becomes over the top and weirdly silly) and a host of other factors, more or all of which Doctor Who has in spades.
Engaging characters, emotional evokation, mixture of humour and drama (the exact mix depends on the purpose of the story, of course, but a drama without any levity becomes over the top and weirdly silly) and a host of other factors, more or all of which Doctor Who has in spades.
You drink a lot, don't you?
Engaging characters, emotional evokation, mixture of humour and drama (the exact mix depends on the purpose of the story, of course, but a drama without any levity becomes over the top and weirdly silly) and a host of other factors, more or all of which Doctor Who has in spades.
You drink a lot, don't you?
Ha! Beaten! I feel the same way, and I never drink!
Engaging characters, emotional evokation, mixture of humour and drama (the exact mix depends on the purpose of the story, of course, but a drama without any levity becomes over the top and weirdly silly) and a host of other factors, more or all of which Doctor Who has in spades.
You drink a lot, don't you?
Ha! Beaten! I feel the same way, and I never drink!
Your mother drank a lot while she was pregnant with you, didn't she?
Engaging characters, emotional evokation, mixture of humour and drama (the exact mix depends on the purpose of the story, of course, but a drama without any levity becomes over the top and weirdly silly) and a host of other factors, more or all of which Doctor Who has in spades.
You drink a lot, don't you?
Ha! Beaten! I feel the same way, and I never drink!
Your mother drank a lot while she was pregnant with you, didn't she?
Yesh......hic.......
Engaging characters, emotional evokation, mixture of humour and drama (the exact mix depends on the purpose of the story, of course, but a drama without any levity becomes over the top and weirdly silly) and a host of other factors, more or all of which Doctor Who has in spades.
You drink a lot, don't you?
Ha! Beaten! I feel the same way, and I never drink!
I can't watch DW when drunk. There's too much going on.
Engaging characters, emotional evokation, mixture of humour and drama (the exact mix depends on the purpose of the story, of course, but a drama without any levity becomes over the top and weirdly silly) and a host of other factors, more or all of which Doctor Who has in spades.
You drink a lot, don't you?
Ha! Beaten! I feel the same way, and I never drink!
I can't watch DW when drunk. There's too much going on.
Crack-houses are crazy places from what I hear.
Dont listen to HS, he thinks Gymkata was the best movie ever, Gym-freakin-kata!
If you and I were standing next to each other and there was a pommel horse next to me, I'd Gymkata you in the face!!!
Dont listen to HS, he thinks Gymkata was the best movie ever, Gym-freakin-kata!
If you and I were standing next to each other and there was a pommel horse next to me, I'd Gymkata you in the face!!!
What can I say? Gymkata just has nothing on Hawk.....The Slayer!
Dont listen to HS, he thinks Gymkata was the best movie ever, Gym-freakin-kata!
It's the OTT, no one takes anyone else seriously, do they?
Dont listen to HS, he thinks Gymkata was the best movie ever, Gym-freakin-kata!
It's the OTT, no one takes anyone else seriously, do they?
But, DocBadWolf, it's always serious business here.
Dont listen to HS, he thinks Gymkata was the best movie ever, Gym-freakin-kata!
It's the OTT, no one takes anyone else seriously, do they?
By your reaction to my comments, I'd say you do take things seriously. You were very entertaining.
Not with arguments like those
Yesh, but so did I, and I didn't really take you seriously.
Not with arguments like those
You should have paid attention to trappedslider. You didn't. You were also very entertaining.
Yesh, but so did I, and I didn't really take you seriously.
Not with arguments like those
You should have paid attention to trappedslider.
But......
;)
Ei?
Dont listen to HS, he thinks Gymkata was the best movie ever, Gym-freakin-kata!
It's the OTT, no one takes anyone else seriously, do they?
By your reaction to my comments, I'd say you do take things seriously. You were very entertaining.
You flatter yourself.
.,...... and it is the best sci-fi show ever!
Thanks for agreeing.
Dont listen to HS, he thinks Gymkata was the best movie ever, Gym-freakin-kata!
It's the OTT, no one takes anyone else seriously, do they?
By your reaction to my comments, I'd say you do take things seriously. You were very entertaining.
You flatter yourself.
You, most of all, should have paid attention to trappedslider.
No, he is right. You wanted to defend Doctor Crap with all your mighty heart. Cause you love him very much and it is the best sci-fi show ever!
And I pray for world peace every night, too.
Dont listen to HS, he thinks Gymkata was the best movie ever, Gym-freakin-kata!
It's the OTT, no one takes anyone else seriously, do they?
By your reaction to my comments, I'd say you do take things seriously. You were very entertaining.
You flatter yourself.
You, most of all, should have paid attention to trappedslider.
I don't know who or what that is, but for the moment I'm going to assume I'm not missing anything.
I don't know who or what that is, but for the moment I'm going to assume I'm not missing anything.
Good assumption.
I don't know who or what that is, but for the moment I'm going to assume I'm not missing anything.
That's good. Keep thinking that. It'll prolong the entertainment. ;)
I don't know who or what that is, but for the moment I'm going to assume I'm not missing anything.
Good assumption.
Yeah. Now he or she is trying to use the old "I know something you don't" thing to get a reaction.
Troll threads, more than others, should really be shut down once they get lame.
I don't know who or what that is, but for the moment I'm going to assume I'm not missing anything.
Good assumption.
Yeah. Now he or she is trying to use the old "I know something you don't" thing to get a reaction.
Troll threads, more than others, should really be shut down once they get lame.
Tsk tsk... some people just don't have a sense of humor.
I don't know who or what that is, but for the moment I'm going to assume I'm not missing anything.
Good assumption.
Yeah. Now he or she is trying to use the old "I know something you don't" thing to get a reaction.
Troll threads, more than others, should really be shut down once they get lame.
Tsk tsk... some people just don't have a sense of humor.
It almost sounds like he is taking this seriously.
Of course he is taking it seriously. He sounds pretty miffed too. I mean, he claims that I am "trying to use the old 'I know somthing you don't' thing to get a reaction." That's just absurdly wrong. I mean, I know a lot of things he doesn't know, but that has nothing to do with tis thread.
He also wants to get the thread shut down. For someone who supposedly isn't taking things seriously, he sounds seriously upset.
He also wants to get the thread shut down. For someone who supposedly isn't taking things seriously, he sounds seriously upset.
Awwww...
Are his panies twisted?
Using that word is against the CoC.
no,it's calling someone else a troll that is a CoC violation,beacause it's baiting that user..not that anyone will report is beacuse appearently reporting stuff is not allowed according tro the "unspoken rules"
Using that word is against the CoC.
no,it's calling someone else a troll that is a CoC violation,beacause it's baiting that user..not that anyone will report is beacuse appearently reporting stuff is not allowed according tro the "unspoken rules"
No.
Only the cool kids don't report.
All the riff-raff reports.
It's really quite simple if you think about it.
Using that word is against the CoC.
no,it's calling someone else a troll that is a CoC violation,beacause it's baiting that user..not that anyone will report is beacuse appearently reporting stuff is not allowed according tro the "unspoken rules"
No.
Only the cool kids don't report.
All the riff-raff reports.
It's really quite simple if you think about it.
once again more "unsporken,unwirtten" rules of the taveren...
Whatevs, lets get back to how Star Wars is infinitely cooler than Star Trek and/or Dr Who?
stop trying to drag this back to a topic we'ved moved on
Whatevs, lets get back to how Star Wars is infinitely cooler than Star Trek and/or Dr Who?
stop trying to drag this back to a topic we'ved moved on
Lazer-swords, im just sayin...
Whatevs, lets get back to how Star Wars is infinitely cooler than Star Trek and/or Dr Who?
stop trying to drag this back to a topic we'ved moved on
Now you're getting the hang of it!
stop trying to drag this back to a topic we'ved moved on
Yeah, that's one of our unsporken rules... As opposed to those other rules which most definitely should be sporked. (Repeatedly. To death.)
Whatevs, lets get back to how Star Wars is infinitely cooler than Star Trek and/or Dr Who?
Good Idea.
So would you guys say that the Niners are a great team or the greatest football team ever?
Kind of like Dallas.
Did you see the packers vs niners last weekend and how the niners were in such control over teh whole game? If you did there would be only one conclusionto draw from it. The niners are probably the best team this year.
Or they played the worst team this year.
I don't know who or what that is, but for the moment I'm going to assume I'm not missing anything.
Good assumption.
Yeah. Now he or she is trying to use the old "I know something you don't" thing to get a reaction.
Troll threads, more than others, should really be shut down once they get lame.
Tsk tsk... some people just don't have a sense of humor.
It almost sounds like he is taking this seriously.
Of course he is taking it seriously. He sounds pretty miffed too. I mean, he claims that I am "trying to use the old 'I know somthing you don't' thing to get a reaction." That's just absurdly wrong. I mean, I know a lot of things he doesn't know, but that has nothing to do with tis thread.
He also wants to get the thread shut down. For someone who supposedly isn't taking things seriously, he sounds seriously upset.
lol from the perspective of an /b/ old...guy, this is about...4/10.
lol from the perspective of an /b/ old...guy, this is about...4/10.
Dude, you're still harping on that? We've moved on. You need to be quick and flexible to keep up around here. And stop with the racist comments. No one likes that stuff. It isn't funny.
lol from the perspective of an /b/ old...guy, this is about...4/10.
Dude, you're still harping on that? We've moved on. You need to be quick and flexible to keep up around here. And stop with the racist comments. No one likes that stuff. It isn't funny.
Racist comments? What are you on about now?
And this is a troll thread* in the OTT. It goes in whatever direction someone posting in it points toward.
*it wasn't started as one, but it quickly became one, which is pretty normal for off topic and/or random boards.
Racist comments? What are you on about now?
Right, now you don't know.
And this is a troll thread* in the OTT. It goes in whatever direction someone posting in it points toward.
That does not make it a "troll thread." But if it makes you feel better to insinuate about the members here, well, we know what you are. ;)
*it wasn't started as one, but it quickly became one, which is pretty normal for off topic and/or random boards.
Around here we superscript that noise and sblock this kind of stuff. Asterisks are so pedestrian.
Racist comments? What are you on about now?
Right, now you don't know.And this is a troll thread* in the OTT. It goes in whatever direction someone posting in it points toward.
That does not make it a "troll thread." But if it makes you feel better to insinuate about the members here, well, we know what you are. ;)*it wasn't started as one, but it quickly became one, which is pretty normal for off topic and/or random boards.
Around here we superscript that noise and sblock this kind of stuff. Asterisks are so pedestrian.
**** you man!, Asterisks are ****ing cool!
Silversword...
You're "masking".
That's a CoC violation.
I would edit that post before Thread ReporterTM gets you...
**** you man!, Asterisks are ****ing cool!
They are obvious Communist symbols of oppression!
There. Ive said it. The only good bit in Empire Strikes Back.
**** you man!, Asterisks are ****ing cool!
They are obvious Communist symbols of oppression!
Da, da da. We have zee presence in Wastern keyboards!
Incorrect. There are no good bits in any of the Star Wars movies. Well, maybe the credits because the tragedy is finally over.
Because this thread turned into "Star Wars memes"...
Incorrect. There are no good bits in any of the Star Wars movies. Well, maybe the credits because the tragedy is finally over.
You know what I find disturbing? How anyone is able drink that horrendous beer. You may as well go into a public restroom and fill up a pint from a recently used toilet.
Incorrect. There are no good bits in any of the Star Wars movies. Well, maybe the credits because the tragedy is finally over.
You know what I find disturbing? How anyone is able drink that horrendous beer. You may as well go into a public restroom and fill up a pint from a recently used toilet.
Incorrect. There are no good bits in any of the Star Wars movies. Well, maybe the credits because the tragedy is finally over.
You know what I find disturbing? How anyone is able drink that horrendous beer. You may as well go into a public restroom and fill up a pint from a recently used toilet.
That's what happens when Vader tries to use those few remaining braing cell that haven't been strangled by the bacteria running through his system. He should think about drinking beer.
I'm sorry. I'm really, really, sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm really, really, sorry.
You've made it clear that you just have terrible taste all around.
I'm sorry. I'm really, really, sorry.
You've made it clear that you just have terrible taste all around.
I know, I know.
I'm sorry. I'm really, really, sorry.
You've made it clear that you just have terrible taste all around.
I know, I know.
I give you permission to kill yourself. I'm sure you'll find some terribly tasteless way of doing it.
I'm sorry. I'm really, really, sorry.
You've made it clear that you just have terrible taste all around.
I know, I know.
I give you permission to kill yourself. I'm sure you'll find some terribly tasteless way of doing it.
Crushed by a scale model of a Stargate?
I'm sorry. I'm really, really, sorry.
You've made it clear that you just have terrible taste all around.
I know, I know.
I give you permission to kill yourself. I'm sure you'll find some terribly tasteless way of doing it.
Crushed by a scale model of a Stargate?
You can do worse.
Incorrect. There are no good bits in any of the Star Wars movies. Well, maybe the credits because the tragedy is finally over.
You know what I find disturbing? How anyone is able drink that horrendous beer. You may as well go into a public restroom and fill up a pint from a recently used toilet.
HEY!
Dos Equis is good beer!
Incorrect. There are no good bits in any of the Star Wars movies. Well, maybe the credits because the tragedy is finally over.
You know what I find disturbing? How anyone is able drink that horrendous beer. You may as well go into a public restroom and fill up a pint from a recently used toilet.
HEY!
Dos Equis is good beer!
You drink Pabts. Your definition of good is flawed.
I also agree that Pabst and XX are terrible, terrible beers.
Racist comments? What are you on about now?
Right, now you don't know.And this is a troll thread* in the OTT. It goes in whatever direction someone posting in it points toward.
That does not make it a "troll thread." But if it makes you feel better to insinuate about the members here, well, we know what you are. ;)*it wasn't started as one, but it quickly became one, which is pretty normal for off topic and/or random boards.
Around here we superscript that noise and sblock this kind of stuff. Asterisks are so pedestrian.
Elitism is very nearly always the sign of an insecure, vain and ignorable person.
And I've made no racist comments. Not on this, or any other forum. Not in the entire time that internet forums have existed. Not once.
On a somewhat random but related to previous parts of the thread note, midichlorians in star wars aren't bacteria. they're basically a product of George Lucas forgetting what mitochondria are called, and making something up that sounds vaguely similar. He mentions them in an interview from the 70's, so they weren't made up for the new movies, they were part of his original vision of the universe. They are similar to mitochondria in that they are subcellular. There is no similarity between them and bacteria.
I'm sorry. I'm really, really, sorry.
Only good(?) thing to come out of that song. I really hate that I work in a place where I can't control the radio...
Anyway, alcohol being good or bad isn't always the point. Sometimes a beer is enjoyable to a person because they drank it alot when they were in high school and it's all they could get ahold of, or because someone they spent a lot of time with drank it alot and they got used to it at some point, etc. And sometimes you drink Jim Beam because it works fine for cooking, so you sort of had it around, and needed a swig of whiskey that day.
But XX is horrid stuff. It's as bad as Natural Light.
But XX is horrid stuff. It's as bad as Natural Light.
Something tells me both are American.
I have to agree - the Niners are probably the best team in the NFL right now. Really solid all the way around. If you doubt that Alex Smith should have shut you up with his clutch performance yesterday. Srsly good team. I probably won't be picking against them again - and I only did so in the first place cuz I'm a Packers fan. ;)
I also agree that Pabst and XX are terrible, terrible beers.
Its completely understandable that you'd pick packers over niners even if you weren't a fan. They're both good teams last year and projected to be good teams this year as well. It was the first game of the season so no telling what could happen. But after seeing them both weeks they look fairly solid. I already can't wait for the playoffs. Can't wait to see meh team takin' the big game this year.
Elitism is very nearly always the sign of an insecure, vain and ignorable person.
You don't have any friends, do you?
And I've made no racist comments. Not on this, or any other forum. Not in the entire time that internet forums have existed. Not once.
Deny it all you want. We all know the truth.
On a somewhat random but related to previous parts of the thread note, midichlorians in star wars aren't bacteria. they're basically a product of George Lucas forgetting what mitochondria are called, and making something up that sounds vaguely similar. He mentions them in an interview from the 70's, so they weren't made up for the new movies, they were part of his original vision of the universe. They are similar to mitochondria in that they are subcellular. There is no similarity between them and bacteria.
They are bacteria. Stop defending Lucas's terrible writing.
But XX is horrid stuff. It's as bad as Natural Light.
At least we agree on this.
I <3 doctor who :-d
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I dont know what youre talking about!?
My vote is for the 9th Doctor. He was so ... charming! <3 <3
Its completely understandable that you'd pick packers over niners even if you weren't a fan. They're both good teams last year and projected to be good teams this year as well. It was the first game of the season so no telling what could happen. But after seeing them both weeks they look fairly solid. I already can't wait for the playoffs. Can't wait to see meh team takin' the big game this year.
Yeah, I had reason to choose the Pack but it wasn't like an easy pick to make. I've been talkin' up the 9rs all offseason cuz I relly think they're the best team out there. Hell, they shoulda won it all last year - and likely would have if Ginn wasn't hurt (what happened to him anyway?). But yeah, if they don't make it it'll be a disappointment I'm sure. They're the class of the NFC, IMO. And that makes them the class of the NFL. Time, of course, will tell for sure but ... well, I think time will just tell us we're right. ;)
But any way, why is it no one ever, never lists Peter Cushing as their favorite Doctor? I mean Grand Moff Tarkin with a TARDIS, how awesomly awesome is that!?
There's one word in there that explains why you like Dr Who. Why anyone, really, likes Dr Who. I don't think you'll be able to figure which one it is though - for obvious reasons.
Though I haven't watched any shows from the new season yet ... just don't have the time! Star Wars: the Old Republic has totally sucked away my free time and my will to do anything else.
I didn't like the Weeping Angels episode from last season - I thought they took a lot of the mystery out of what was my favorite "villain" alien. I am interested in seeing what they do with this season.
My favorite episode, though, has to be The Doctor's Wife. <3 I <3 Neil Gaiman, and that episode was pitch-perfect!
"Where's my thief?!?"
But any way, why is it no one ever, never lists Peter Cushing as their favorite Doctor? I mean Grand Moff Tarkin with a TARDIS, how awesomly awesome is that!?
There's one word in there that explains why you like Dr Who. Why anyone, really, likes Dr Who. I don't think you'll be able to figure which one it is though - for obvious reasons.
You should totally junk that Star Bores stuff and buy you some Guild Wars 2. It's awesome.
Nah, you don't even like Doctor Who, so why would I want to follow your advice on anything else? :P
Nah, you don't even like Doctor Who, so why would I want to follow your advice on anything else? :P
Cuz I'm obviously a man of exquisite taste. I mean, I do like you after all. ;)
Srsly, though? GW2 is really good. I don't really like vidya games and haven't liked an MMO since UO but this has me pretty wrapped up.
There's one word in there that explains why you like Dr Who. Why anyone, really, likes Dr Who. I don't think you'll be able to figure which one it is though - for obvious reasons.
Peter Cushion?
wait, that two words
Cuz I'm obviously a man of exquisite taste. I mean, I do like you after all. ;)
Srsly, though? GW2 is really good. I don't really like vidya games and haven't liked an MMO since UO but this has me pretty wrapped up.
Well, there are just some things that everyone should like.
And I believe you about Guild Wars 2 - I played the first one on a friend's account and I did like it. I just really like Star Wars and am having a blast playing it. Also, my husband can play it where he is and we play together during naptime, so it's like we're hanging out. <3
And I'm a big fan of Star Wars, so ... yeah.
Peter Cushion?
wait, that two words
*pats Silversword on the noggin* Yes, yes. Very good! You want a lollipop?
*pats Silversword on the noggin some more*Well, there are just some things that everyone should like.
But not bad things.
And I believe you about Guild Wars 2 - I played the first one on a friend's account and I did like it. I just really like Star Wars and am having a blast playing it. Also, my husband can play it where he is and we play together during naptime, so it's like we're hanging out. <3
That's always a plus. You could do that with GW, too!
Two games is a lot, though. Bout to have to find time for Borderlands 2 real quick. ;)And I'm a big fan of Star Wars, so ... yeah.
Well, nobody's perfect.
Its completely understandable that you'd pick packers over niners even if you weren't a fan. They're both good teams last year and projected to be good teams this year as well. It was the first game of the season so no telling what could happen. But after seeing them both weeks they look fairly solid. I already can't wait for the playoffs. Can't wait to see meh team takin' the big game this year.
Yeah, I had reason to choose the Pack but it wasn't like an easy pick to make. I've been talkin' up the 9rs all offseason cuz I relly think they're the best team out there. Hell, they shoulda won it all last year - and likely would have if Ginn wasn't hurt (what happened to him anyway?). But yeah, if they don't make it it'll be a disappointment I'm sure. They're the class of the NFC, IMO. And that makes them the class of the NFL. Time, of course, will tell for sure but ... well, I think time will just tell us we're right. ;)
Ginn is inactive due to ankle injury.
Well, there are just some things that everyone should like.
But not bad things.
I'm not bad ... I'm just drawn that way.
And I believe you about Guild Wars 2 - I played the first one on a friend's account and I did like it. I just really like Star Wars and am having a blast playing it. Also, my husband can play it where he is and we play together during naptime, so it's like we're hanging out. <3
That's always a plus. You could do that with GW, too!
No joke, right? I may have to dust off my Xbox!
And I'm a big fan of Star Wars, so ... yeah.
Well, nobody's perfect.
It's the imperfections that make people so interesting.
'm not bad ... I'm just drawn that way.
No joke, right? I may have to dust off my Xbox!
We picked up our copy yesterday and it's all set to go. I was gonna make the kid wait though since he decided to take the GW2 account I purchased and share with him and make changes to it without asking or telling me and then lying about why he did it. I was not happy. I bought the game to play with some friends of mine and explained that day one. He decided, though, that his guild (which he randomly joined) was more important and changed our home server. Well, the one I was on is pretty much perpetually full. I got it back but what the hell, you know? Like, that was not cool. Oh well, we'll probably end up playin' Borderlands tonight. Oh! If you still have saved data from 1 on your machine it'll check for it, recognize it and then give you a couple of skin options. Not much but still kinda cool. I haven't played but I did load it last night. It required me to upgrade the PS3's OS, too. Interesting.
It's the imperfections that make people so interesting.
Sure, sure.
It's the imperfections that make people so interesting.
Well then, I should be the most interesting man alive, what with all my imperfections...
You should totally junk that Star Bores stuff and buy you some Guild Wars 2. It's awesome.
Nah, you don't even like Doctor Who, so why would I want to follow your advice on anything else? :P
He may be a gibbering spawn of a shoggoth with often bad taste, but I can agree with him on Guild Wars 2.
But any way, why is it no one ever, never lists Peter Cushing as their favorite Doctor? I mean Grand Moff Tarkin with a TARDIS, how awesomly awesome is that!?
Don't forget Hammer films veteran! But yes, he's the only good thing to come out of those daleks movies.
Elitism is very nearly always the sign of an insecure, vain and ignorable person.
You don't have any friends, do you?And I've made no racist comments. Not on this, or any other forum. Not in the entire time that internet forums have existed. Not once.
Deny it all you want. We all know the truth.On a somewhat random but related to previous parts of the thread note, midichlorians in star wars aren't bacteria. they're basically a product of George Lucas forgetting what mitochondria are called, and making something up that sounds vaguely similar. He mentions them in an interview from the 70's, so they weren't made up for the new movies, they were part of his original vision of the universe. They are similar to mitochondria in that they are subcellular. There is no similarity between them and bacteria.
They are bacteria. Stop defending Lucas's terrible writing.But XX is horrid stuff. It's as bad as Natural Light.
At least we agree on this.
yes, we all know the truth. Which is that I've never said anything racist.
And they're not bacteria. You're factually incorrect.
yes, we all know the truth. Which is that I've never said anything racist.
Of course. You are just a sweet and inocent little angel. It was all the DS9 writers who were spewing their racist views, not you.
And they're not bacteria. You're factually incorrect.
You can repeat it as much as you want, but you know they are still bacteria, and a shot of penicillin would wipe out Jedi everywhere.
Yup. Considering a Sith lord, Darth Tenebrous, created a retro-virus for midichlodian, a vaccin would take care of the force.
That really only makes sense if metachlorian are (or are similar to) mitochondria. That being retrovirus attack DNA/RNA so basically only cell nuclei and mitochondria which contain such material. If metachlorian were bacteria he'd only need to make something that was anti bacterial that would be sprayed on or ingested since bacteria have really two general places to live. On our skin or digestive tract. There would be zero reason for a virus, let alone retrovirus, if that is all that was needed. Since he was making a retrovirus that means that it is the metachlorians that are being targeted themselves and that they have to be contained within cells themselves and whatnot. and junk.
For those that are not familiar with retroviruses feel free to think about HIV since it is an example of such a virus.
That really only makes sense if metachlorian are (or are similar to) mitochondria. That being retrovirus attack DNA/RNA so basically only cell nuclei and mitochondria which contain such material. If metachlorian were bacteria he'd only need to make something that was anti bacterial that would be sprayed on or ingested since bacteria have really two general places to live. On our skin or digestive tract.
You ever seen any kind of soap used in any of the Star Bores movies? Sanitation isn't something you find in that universe. Just look at poor Darth Vader.
he gets his legs cut off, and is set on fire. Does the emperor have his mediCal-bots clean him up? Nope. DO they administer any kind of anti-biotics Nope. Instead, Vader is left in his dirty clothes and cramed into his Vader suit. Hell, give the guy a pain killer at least.
There would be zero reason for a virus, let alone retrovirus, if that is all that was needed. Since he was making a retrovirus that means that it is the metachlorians that are being targeted themselves and that they have to be contained within cells themselves and whatnot. and junk.
For those that are not familiar with retroviruses feel free to think about HIV since it is an example of such a virus.
You overestimate Lucas's intelligence.
Yup. Considering a Sith lord, Darth Tenebrous, created a retro-virus for midichlodian, a vaccin would take care of the force.
I could create a virus or something like it to wipe out your kidney, that dosen't make it a bacteria, or susceptible to antibiotics.
I liked Star Wars... then I matured.
When was that, now?
No, it was about 1986 or so.
Some of the posts on here must be REALLY old haha.
I don't think they had an internet in '86.
At least I don't remember there being one...
And I do know there was no such thing as Windows or computer mice.
Heh... I had a Commodore 128 with 5 inch floppies... thought it was the
Ah, the good ol' days...
Some of the posts on here must be REALLY old haha.
I don't think they had an internet in '86.
At least I don't remember there being one...
And I do know there was no such thing as Windows or computer mice.
Heh... I had a Commodore 128 with 5 inch floppies... thought it was the
Ah, the good ol' days...
The Internet (then known as ARPANET) began in 1962. In 1984 the newly developed DNS was introduced across the Internet, with the now familiar domains of .gov, .mil, .edu, .org, .net, and .com.
Windows 1.0 released in late 1985. It was announced in '83, and took long enough to develop that skeptics called it "vaporware".
The first computer mouse was built in 1964. The first mouse intended for use with a personal computer made it's appearance in 1981.
The Commodore 128 used 5.25" floppy disks.
edit: and on the subject of sci-fi shows, everyone needs one of these.
The Internet (then known as ARPANET) began in 1962. In 1984 the newly developed DNS was introduced across the Internet, with the now familiar domains of .gov, .mil, .edu, .org, .net, and .com.
Windows 1.0 released in late 1985. It was announced in '83, and took long enough to develop that skeptics called it "vaporware".
The first computer mouse was built in 1964. The first mouse intended for use with a personal computer made it's appearance in 1981.
The Commodore 128 used 5.25" floppy disks.
Blah blah blah, no one cares! Get to the important stuff, like when pr0n made its first internet appearance.
edit: and on the subject of sci-fi shows, everyone needs one of these.
That's pretty cool, actually.
yes, we all know the truth. Which is that I've never said anything racist.
Of course. You are just a sweet and inocent little angel. It was all the DS9 writers who were spewing their racist views, not you.And they're not bacteria. You're factually incorrect.
You can repeat it as much as you want, but you know they are still bacteria, and a shot of penicillin would wipe out Jedi everywhere.
lol What I know is that they are no more bacteria than mitochondria are.
Blah blah blah, no one cares! Get to the important stuff, like when pr0n made its first internet appearance.
USENET got started in '79. I'm fairly sure that there was pr0n available about 5 minutes later.
The first popular web site dedicated to it was registered in 1994.
yes, we all know the truth. Which is that I've never said anything racist.
Of course. You are just a sweet and inocent little angel. It was all the DS9 writers who were spewing their racist views, not you.And they're not bacteria. You're factually incorrect.
You can repeat it as much as you want, but you know they are still bacteria, and a shot of penicillin would wipe out Jedi everywhere.
lol What I know is that they are no more bacteria than mitochondria are.
What you should know is that they are an imaginary idea from a guy that wrote many terrible movies.
Blah blah blah, no one cares! Get to the important stuff, like when pr0n made its first internet appearance.
USENET got started in '79. I'm fairly sure that there was pr0n available about 5 minutes later.
The first popular web site dedicated to it was registered in 1994.
Much better. THe History Chanel should do a show about this. It is very important information.
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That's pretty cool, actually.
Yeah. It is cool.
Some of the posts on here must be REALLY old haha.
I don't think they had an internet in '86.
At least I don't remember there being one...
And I do know there was no such thing as Windows or computer mice.
Heh... I had a Commodore 128 with 5 inch floppies... thought it was the
Ah, the good ol' days...
The Internet (then known as ARPANET) began in 1962. In 1984 the newly developed DNS was introduced across the Internet, with the now familiar domains of .gov, .mil, .edu, .org, .net, and .com.
Windows 1.0 released in late 1985. It was announced in '83, and took long enough to develop that skeptics called it "vaporware".
The first computer mouse was built in 1964. The first mouse intended for use with a personal computer made it's appearance in 1981.
The Commodore 128 used 5.25" floppy disks.
edit: and on the subject of sci-fi shows, everyone needs one of these.
Well then, I stand corrected.
Be honest, you googled all that info, didn't you?
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
Dang!
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
What the hell?
Well then, I stand corrected.
Be honest, you googled all that info, didn't you?
Most of the dates so I wouldn't give incorrect information. I could have said things like "in the early '80s" or "in the mid '60s" without taking 15 seconds to look the dates up, but I figured I might as well be specific.
I knew you were wrong on all points as I read your post, however.
Dang!
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
What the hell?
You know... hitting the sack.
I don't want people to be confused as to what I'm talking about.
Now, WILL YOU LET ME GET TO SLEEP!
Dang!
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
What the hell?
You know... hitting the sack.
I don't want people to be confused as to what I'm talking about.
Now, WILL YOU LET ME GET TO SLEEP!
I don't know why anyone would mistakenly think you were talking about punching your testicles when you said "hitting the sack."
Dang!
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
What the hell?
You know... hitting the sack.
I don't want people to be confused as to what I'm talking about.
Now, WILL YOU LET ME GET TO SLEEP!
I don't know why anyone would mistakenly think you were talking about punching your testicles when you said "hitting the sack."
I don't either.
But some people...
You do realize I'll never be able to use that phrase again without wondering if I should clarify, don't you?
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
*fills in for HS*
Try again.
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
*fills in for HS*
Try again.
Nicely done, Jet.
*shrug* Because he wasn't as cute as the other Doctors?
My vote is for the 9th Doctor. He was so ... charming!
Why would anyone choose this guy? He looks like a wimpy guy trying to look like a thug. When I learned that was one of the Doctors, I was shocked (the first one I recognized was number 10-nant).
I don't want people to be confused as to what I'm talking about.
You could have said "hit the hay" I believe.
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
*fills in for HS*
Try again.
Ahhh...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
You could have said "hit the hay" I believe.
Why would I tell people I was smoking weed?
You could have said "hit the hay" I believe.
Why would I tell people I was smoking weed?
Cuz it might be true?
BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS!!!!!
Luke Skywalker binoculars
See! See! They can read our brainwaves now, I told you all it would happen, and you called me crazy!
Im surprised no ones mentioned the scifi epic that is
BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS!!!!!
Yeah, Roger Corman! (And Sayles too)
*shrug* Because he wasn't as cute as the other Doctors?
My vote is for the 9th Doctor. He was so ... charming!
Why would anyone choose this guy? He looks like a wimpy guy trying to look like a thug. When I learned that was one of the Doctors, I was shocked (the first one I recognized was number 10-nant).
I thought he was charming and adorable. <3 The 10th one grew on me (and I did think he was cute right away), but the 11th still isn't ... clicking. However, I think I see the story they're trying to tell, and I can appreciate that.
www.threadless.com/product/2899/Doctor_H...
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That's pretty cool, actually.
Yeah. It is cool.
Some of the posts on here must be REALLY old haha.
I don't think they had an internet in '86.
At least I don't remember there being one...
And I do know there was no such thing as Windows or computer mice.
Heh... I had a Commodore 128 with 5 inch floppies... thought it was the
Ah, the good ol' days...
The Internet (then known as ARPANET) began in 1962. In 1984 the newly developed DNS was introduced across the Internet, with the now familiar domains of .gov, .mil, .edu, .org, .net, and .com.
Windows 1.0 released in late 1985. It was announced in '83, and took long enough to develop that skeptics called it "vaporware".
The first computer mouse was built in 1964. The first mouse intended for use with a personal computer made it's appearance in 1981.
The Commodore 128 used 5.25" floppy disks.
edit: and on the subject of sci-fi shows, everyone needs one of these.
Well then, I stand corrected.
Be honest, you googled all that info, didn't you?
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
Dang!
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
What the hell?
Well then, I stand corrected.
Be honest, you googled all that info, didn't you?
Most of the dates so I wouldn't give incorrect information. I could have said things like "in the early '80s" or "in the mid '60s" without taking 15 seconds to look the dates up, but I figured I might as well be specific.
I knew you were wrong on all points as I read your post, however.
Dang!
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
What the hell?
You know... hitting the sack.
I don't want people to be confused as to what I'm talking about.
Now, WILL YOU LET ME GET TO SLEEP!
Dang!
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
What the hell?
You know... hitting the sack.
I don't want people to be confused as to what I'm talking about.
Now, WILL YOU LET ME GET TO SLEEP!
I don't know why anyone would mistakenly think you were talking about punching your testicles when you said "hitting the sack."
Dang!
I've gotta hit the sack. (go to sleep, not punch my testicles).
What the hell?
You know... hitting the sack.
I don't want people to be confused as to what I'm talking about.
Now, WILL YOU LET ME GET TO SLEEP!
I don't know why anyone would mistakenly think you were talking about punching your testicles when you said "hitting the sack."
I don't either.
But some people...
You do realize I'll never be able to use that phrase again without wondering if I should clarify, don't you?
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
*fills in for HS*
Try again.
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
*fills in for HS*
Try again.
Nicely done, Jet.
*shrug* Because he wasn't as cute as the other Doctors?
My vote is for the 9th Doctor. He was so ... charming!
Why would anyone choose this guy? He looks like a wimpy guy trying to look like a thug. When I learned that was one of the Doctors, I was shocked (the first one I recognized was number 10-nant).
I don't want people to be confused as to what I'm talking about.
You could have said "hit the hay" I believe.
Hey, take it easy guys, Im gonna go punch RH's testicles.
he might like that...
*fills in for HS*
Try again.
Ahhh...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
You could have said "hit the hay" I believe.
Why would I tell people I was smoking weed?
You could have said "hit the hay" I believe.
Why would I tell people I was smoking weed?
Cuz it might be true?
BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS!!!!!
Luke Skywalker binoculars
See! See! They can read our brainwaves now, I told you all it would happen, and you called me crazy!
Im surprised no ones mentioned the scifi epic that is
BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS!!!!!
Yeah, Roger Corman! (And Sayles too)
*shrug* Because he wasn't as cute as the other Doctors?
My vote is for the 9th Doctor. He was so ... charming!
Why would anyone choose this guy? He looks like a wimpy guy trying to look like a thug. When I learned that was one of the Doctors, I was shocked (the first one I recognized was number 10-nant).
I thought he was charming and adorable. <3 The 10th one grew on me (and I did think he was cute right away), but the 11th still isn't ... clicking. However, I think I see the story they're trying to tell, and I can appreciate that.
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