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| #1joni-sanAug 31, 2009 14:13:33 | Reuters - Disney will Acquire Marvel FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| #2WolfLordBranAug 31, 2009 14:17:21 | Well, there goes my dreams.*grumble grumble bastar...* *falls to knees ala Planet of the Apes* Damn them, damn them all to hell! |
| #3subsistcyberAug 31, 2009 14:18:10 | Yeah... Yellowdingo announced it already. Course he coulda spelt bananas right... then maybe people would know it was all about this topic and might be more apt to read the thread. |
| #4ShiftkittyAug 31, 2009 14:19:36 | Yes, now you can expect your favorite heroes to burst into song and dance while little cartoon bluebirds flutter around and the Jonas Brothers provide the singing voice-overs. I don't like Marvel Comics, I'm not into superheroes, I wouldn't miss the genre if it went away, but this sort of thing should be banned by international law! My brain is cramping just imaginign the X-Men as some teeny-bopper drama. Ow! Ow! Make it go away! |
| #5zombie_babiesAug 31, 2009 16:14:51 | I am confuzzled. Why does everyone automatically assume that everything that will come from this union will be G rated? There's no reason to believe that Disney will Disney-fy the comic stuff. The movies work as-is. There's no need to tinker with the style or content and they likely won't. Calm down. Jeebus. |
| #6succubitavernAug 31, 2009 16:18:27 | I expect X-23 to be toned down a bit in xforce by this since disney doesn't exactly want psychologically totured characters to be heroes but expect nothing to happen to nightcrawler |
| #7EscherEnigmaAug 31, 2009 16:19:06 | I don't know, I find it kidna odd how people are freaking out about this too. Especially considering we're on the message boards for D&D (owned by Wizards of the Coast, owned by Hasbro). It's not like companies changing owners is unheard of. |
| #8baneofelvesAug 31, 2009 16:19:21 | Disney tries to Disney-fy EVERYTHING. Originally, Kingdom Hearts was just gonna be a Squaresoft* project, but then Disney bought their way into that and the next thing you know, you're a little boy swinging a key at shadowy crickets next to Donald Duck and Goofy. They Disney-fy EVERYTHING. Next thing you know, Wolverine will be having adventures with Mickey ****ing MOUSE.
(*or Enix. Whatever the frak they're calling themselves now) |
| #9EscherEnigmaAug 31, 2009 16:31:43 | Um... No they don't. Check this list of assets. Not even close to everything on that list has been "Disney-fied". You're over-reacting. |
| #10ellorinAug 31, 2009 16:35:11 | Although I would totally ditch Marvel's First Family for this one. |
| #11subsistcyberAug 31, 2009 16:36:54 | It already started... |
| #12toastedamphibianAug 31, 2009 16:50:41 | I'm more interested in how this will impact universal studies theme park. They have more than a few rides baised on Marvel characters, who are now owned by their immediate competition across town. [Dr. Doom's dead drop, Spiderman Ride, ect.] |
| #13EscherEnigmaAug 31, 2009 16:54:52 | I would imagine that as long as Universal Studios has the license to produce those films that it won't be an issue (especially as it would take some time for Disney to get their own rides using the franchise up), but it may become a point of the negotiations when they try to renew the license in a few years. |
| #14Duke5150Aug 31, 2009 19:21:40 | This is terrible news. Poor Marvel. |
| #15oxybeAug 31, 2009 19:26:14 | i dunno... while the recent Disney is horrific, they did give us Gargoyles and a few other gems. who knows, they might not f*ck up. i do expect some executive meddling. |
| #16EscherEnigmaAug 31, 2009 19:31:16 | ... could any "executive meddling" from Disney really be worse then what Joe Quesada has already done? |
| #17owls_and_more_owlsAug 31, 2009 19:40:31 | [sarcasm] Yes. Awesome. This is fantastic. I was hoping this would happen. [/sarcasm] |
| #18toastedamphibianAug 31, 2009 20:01:12 |
Don't do that. |
| #19oxybeAug 31, 2009 20:04:14 |
what, be hopeful? i'm the world's most optimistic pessimist. i honestly expect the worst, but you never know. |
| #20EscherEnigmaAug 31, 2009 20:09:20 | Disney + Marvel = Mickerine. |
| #21toastedamphibianAug 31, 2009 20:11:26 |
No, I'm refering the the mechanics of your post, not the point of your post. Masking is a CoC violation. Please dont **** with your words so that the langauge filter will not catch them. |
| #22cat2060Aug 31, 2009 23:31:56 | Disney is a huge umbrella company that includes Touchstone and Miramax. It could very well do X-Men in the same vein as Gargoyles for TV, the movies would probably still be produced under the Marvel name. Marvel = Disney as to Kraft Foods = Phillip Morris. I don't see cigarettes in my mac n' cheese, even though they are owned by the same company. Gotta Love Stan Lee, though. The man can make money. |
| #23wancowAug 31, 2009 23:37:04 | Okay, this means that all Marvel Teen Heroes will grow up to shave their nethers, marry for five minutes and make sex tapes... |
| #24succubitavernAug 31, 2009 23:38:17 | Would this mean disney is now being included in the lawsuit against marvel thats currently ongoing? |
| #25lofgrenAug 31, 2009 23:47:40 |
Such things are usually dealt with explicitly in the terms of the deal. It seems like a pretty straightforward case, though. Either Lee transferred his portion of the ownership of the characters to the company or he didn't. Although the financial shenanigans that led to SLMI's banruptcy (specifically, the massive fraud committed against Lee and the other shareholders by Lee's then-partner) might confuse things a bit. |
| #26Duke5150Sep 01, 2009 5:03:36 |
Best post of this thread, seriously. |
| #27ADHadhSep 01, 2009 5:40:30 | How bout this? i31.tinypic.com/33jiyzb.jpg |
| #28lofgrenSep 01, 2009 6:06:50 |
Peter Porker, Spider-Ham has been around for decades now. |
| #29Cpt_MichaSep 01, 2009 6:51:18 | Well I wish I could say it was nice knowing Marvel. But I can't, considering how bad they screwed up several major story lines over the last few years.
Even so, they didn't deserve to be bought by ....Disney.
So much for an Awesome Iron Man |
| #30zombie_babiesSep 01, 2009 9:07:56 | Volkswagen owns Rolls-Royce (now Bentley). I've yet to see a 4 cylinder, diesel, sedan version of the Continental GT. Put simply, if there's value intrinsic to the brand purchased it is unlikely that said brand will undergo major restructuring. Marvel is pretty damned well known and those that know it know what it has produced. The backlash from 'Disney-fying' the brand would destroy any chance of making gains from the purchase - as evidenced by the ample nerd-rage/angst displayed here. D&D was a popular game. Magic was a popular game. When WotC bought D&D, did they Magic D&D up? There are far too many examples out there that should alleviate any concern about the impending kiddifying of Marvel. It. Will. Not. Happen. |
| #31ellorinSep 01, 2009 9:20:57 |
Well said. I am in complete agreement. |
| #32Cpt_MichaSep 01, 2009 9:52:42 |
Yeah instead, they allowed their cars to become hideous monstrosities that definitely screams Volkswagen influenced. That company just hasn't been the same since it stopped being Rolls-Royce. And it is reflected in the body styles of the cars they make. |
| #33EscherEnigmaSep 01, 2009 13:58:56 | Disney buys Marvel by diablo2003 on Deviant Art. ![]() |
| #34zombie_babiesSep 01, 2009 14:03:26 | That's one goofy picture of Thor ... Hur hur hur ... |
| #35ForgemberSep 01, 2009 14:21:50 |
Sheesh, Marvel is doomed. |
| #36zombie_babiesSep 01, 2009 14:28:20 | Sheesh, Marvel is doomed. Lol. You lookin' to die in flames? People 'round these parts are mighty partial to their 4e and don't take too kindly to any insinuations that it's like any game other than D&D.BTW, nice siggy quote. |
| #37owls_and_more_owlsSep 01, 2009 14:31:28 | Magic and D&D have been slowly becoming each other for a while now. I mean, Planechase? 'The hell is this? I'm not buying it. |
| #38ForgemberSep 01, 2009 14:35:39 |
Thanks Owls, if there where cookies I would give you one. |
| #391_ton_ghostSep 01, 2009 14:37:20 | Hmm, so that happened...
Not sure how I should feel about it. Disney's track record is checkered to say the least, but I think they've got the financial acumen to not kill the golden goose...and it's not the comics so much as the film successes under the aegis of Marvel (even if a good many suck [Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Fantastic 4, etc etc.) Comics just aren't worth what they were (thanks Hollywood), but the films they're cannibalizing seem to be making a brisk trade, something Disney knows in spades all-too-well.
I guess, ppl get this (mis)conception of everything they do being some kid-friendly, watered down BS ala High School Musical, Jonas bros., and another flavor-of-the-week pop star which is pretty sad. They seem to have a penchant for taking normal kids and somehow they turn into sluts on parade (Britney, Xtina, Justin, etc), an apt metaphor for Disney as a whole.
However, 1 word, Pixar. They're not stupid. That was a very smart acquisition and there's a reason they always joke @ the Oscar's about the "Pixar award" (Best Animated...). It sets a good precident to which I'm hopeful, but the realist in me says, "Hey, did you forget some of their recent works, and all the PC pandering, stockholder manipulation, skyrocketing prices @ the Magic Kingdom, and America's kids getting exponentially stupider from some of their 'products'?" When they thaw out Walt, man, he's gonna' be pissed...
Upside: Perhaps, maybe, w/ Disney's deep pockets and some new blood @ the helm that isn't going to **** & pillage our childhood heroes/villains, it could be a smart move. Bigger financial backing into an overcrowded market might be the shot in the arm Marvel needs. Who knows. I pretty much gave up on them in early high school, graduated to more adult fare (Image, Vertigo, DDP, etc) because so much of it is the exact same fluff/filler from the 80's and so forth, just w/ better art...and a higher price.
All things considered, it's even steven, and if they're selling, so be it. There's $ to be made and that bottom line is the mantra down in Orlando, niche market sensibilities be damned. Stan's getting old, out of fresh ideas long ago, time to pass the torch? IDK. Is what it is. |
| #40Cpt_MichaSep 01, 2009 14:38:48 | I don't really see the connection between the two.
Sure there's that asinine Minis policy... but then all minis companies except for the successful ones do the Random Minis thing. D&D and Magic are similar in the following way.
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| #41ForgemberSep 01, 2009 14:49:15 |
Replace Encounter, Daily, and Utility with Draw, Tap, and Mana Cost. See the connection now? |
| #42Cpt_MichaSep 01, 2009 14:53:05 |
That makes no sense at all. One is Turn Procedure. In which case EVERY GAME has been "Magified". Because every game has Turn Procedure. |
| #43october_darknessSep 01, 2009 18:21:38 |
That's a bad example. Micha already hit the draw mechanic. Do you even know what Tap, and Mana cost are? Tapping involves turning your Magic card sideways for a mechanical effect. Usually this happens when a creature uses an ability, or is attacking. Mana Cost is not even worth my time to explain. Simply put, I don't have to TAP my Cleric to use Healing Word, and none of my Fighter's abilities require a Mana Cost.
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| #44toastedamphibianSep 01, 2009 19:51:26 | ... Why does anybody sell anything?! Of course they sold it for money. |
| #45owls_and_more_owlsSep 01, 2009 20:41:18 | Operative word "sell." |
| #46EscherEnigmaSep 01, 2009 21:51:13 | Courtesy of Something Positive |
| #47pigknightSep 01, 2009 21:54:04 | Epic win. |
| #48owls_and_more_owlsSep 01, 2009 21:57:37 | I've got the Sadness in me. |
| #49LadyNeferRaSep 02, 2009 0:28:01 | I'm no fan of Disney, but I guess it could be worse. They could have sold it to Sam Zell who would show up on his motorcycle, sell off the characters piecemeal and then bankrupt what remained of the franchise. Dangnabbit, is everything going to wind up in Disney's or Trump's greasy paws? |
| #50ADHadhSep 02, 2009 7:24:04 |
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| #51EscherEnigmaSep 03, 2009 11:00:45 | Aaron Williams' take on this, as found over on Full Frontal Nerdity ![]() Anyway, are people still freaking out about this, or has the internet moved onto something new? |
| #52zephyrs_whimSep 04, 2009 15:11:46 | Thanks, EE. Reading this thread has been making me see just how freaked out people can get about all the Disney/Marvel shenanigans goin' around. And, through all of it, you were a snarky, level-headed angel throwing random comics into the mix. Great job. ^_^ |