Edward Leedskalnin

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#1

maulorn

Nov 07, 2008 9:58:02
Was he on to something?
#2

Qube

Nov 07, 2008 15:10:48
this guy? (demonic wiki-link)

right about what?
#3

maulorn

Nov 07, 2008 16:08:25
On to something in regards to magnetics and such.
#4

Qube

Nov 08, 2008 0:35:28
possibly, but I don't really see a practical use.
#5

Tectuktitlay

Nov 08, 2008 1:00:43
possibly, but I don't really see a practical use.

You don't see a practical use for storing energy in a magnetic loop for weeks or months without much loss of said energy? That seems EXTREMELY useful if possible. I have absolutely no idea if he was right, however. No bloody clue.
#6

Qube

Nov 08, 2008 1:24:13
You don't see a practical use for storing energy in a magnetic loop for weeks or months without much loss of said energy? That seems EXTREMELY useful if possible.

I agree, that does seemusefull. I thought so too at first, and then I remembered we can already store energy for weeks/months: they are called batteries

(and batteries don't have the problem that they fry your hard drive ...)
#7

Tectuktitlay

Nov 08, 2008 1:42:51
I agree, that does seemusefull. I thought so too at first, and then I remembered we can already store energy for weeks/months: they are called batteries

(and batteries don't have the problem that they fry your hard drive ...)

Ahh, but batteries lose efficiency rather quickly, especially if you wish those batteries to be reusable (see: Rechargeable batteries). However, if a magnetic system is capable of storing such energy, and being reusable? That would be very useful indeed, especially for long-term storage, linked to solar panels, large-scale energy-production facilities such as geothermal, pebble-bed nuclear, and so on. Imagine long-term space travel with this sort of system in place, and so on.

Again, no idea if this theory is bearing fruit or no, or if this gentleman is correct...but, seems very useful.
#8

maulorn

Nov 08, 2008 7:15:15
Another thing about Ed...

I used to live in S. Fl. near coral castle and had one chance to see it.

The stones used in coral castle are larger than what can be found in the pyramids of egypt. He claimed he understood how the pyramids were constructed.

There was this huge rotating door...made of one hunk of coral. You could sit there with a finger and open it. During Hurricane Andrew it was knocked off track and they had to use two cranes to attempt to get it back on track. It is not as easily opened now but still.

It is said that he used magnetics to move the huge stones.

There was a lot more to him then the perpetual motion.

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#9

maulorn

Nov 08, 2008 7:18:34
Ahh, but batteries lose efficiency rather quickly, especially if you wish those batteries to be reusable (see: Rechargeable batteries). However, if a magnetic system is capable of storing such energy, and being reusable? That would be very useful indeed, especially for long-term storage, linked to solar panels, large-scale energy-production facilities such as geothermal, pebble-bed nuclear, and so on. Imagine long-term space travel with this sort of system in place, and so on.

Again, no idea if this theory is bearing fruit or no, or if this gentleman is correct...but, seems very useful.

On a side note...check out Vanadium Batteries. They circumvent the problem with the membrane in batteries by using just one chemical that has potential to be in four different electrical states. So if you have a passing through the membrane it just changes over.

The cool thing about the batteries is you can drain them completely with no harm.
#10

maulorn

Nov 08, 2008 9:55:48
This is what Ed said about J.J. Thompson

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The invention of an electron came by a tricky method in using electricity in a vacuum tube. Normally whether it be a generator or a batter, the positive terminal will have to be connected to the negative terminal, but in the vacuum tube two batteries with different strength were used, the smaller battery was connected normally, but the larger battery’s negative terminal was connected to the smaller battery’s negative terminal, and the positive terminal was left alone. That connection gave the negative terminal a double dose of strength, and so it became hotter and could push more. It was called cathode and the positive terminal anode, and the electricity that passed from the cathode to the anode was called electrons.

In case the inventor had used normally direct methods to find out what the electricity was he would have found out that the positive and negative electricity is equal in strength, and are running positive electricity against the negative electricity. That can be seen by connecting each of two pieces of soft iron wire with each terminal of a car battery. More sparks can be seen coming out of the positive terminal than from the negative terminal. This direct method is more reliable than the tricky method in the vacuum tube. The trouble with the physicists is they use indirect and ultra-indirect methods to come to their conclusions.

If the inventor of the electrons had a vacuum tube in which his electrons could run close to the top of the vacuum tube from the west side of the cathode to the east side of the anode and then would hand a vertically hanging magnet that is made from three-inch long hard steel fishing wire, and then hang one magnet pole at one time right on top in the middle of his stream of electrons, then he would have seen the north pole magnet swinging north, and the south pole magnet swinging south. The same thing will happen if the magnets are held above any wire where the electricity is running through. Those two vertically hanging magnets prove that the electricity is composed of two different and equal forces. Another way to prove this is to connect a flexible wire loop east end of the wire with positive battery’s terminal, west end with negative terminal, raise the loop one inch above the floor. Put U shape magnet on inch form loop, north pole south side of the loop. The north pole magnet will pull in the loop. Put the south pole magnet in the same place. It will push the loop away.
#11

maulorn

Nov 08, 2008 10:21:06
Three Words That Could Overthrow Physics

What is still a mystery is the abstract concept of "action at a distance". We invent the idea of an electric field and a magnetic field filling all space around any charged object because this is a way of describing what is experimentally observed when another charge is placed in the space and the various motions and accelerations of that charge "caused" by the existence of the first. But the underlying "reason" of how these fields are microscopically or macroscopically "created" by the very existence of the charge itself or the "reality" to be ascribed to them, is still very much a mystery just as the gravitational "action at a distance" between planets or stars is still such a mystery.
#12

Qube

Nov 08, 2008 10:41:57
Three Words That Could Overthrow Physics

wow.
thats a very good written article.
#13

kursk

Nov 08, 2008 10:44:25
You don't see a practical use for storing energy in a magnetic loop for weeks or months without much loss of said energy? That seems EXTREMELY useful if possible. I have absolutely no idea if he was right, however. No bloody clue.

How about a capacitor?
#14

maulorn

Nov 08, 2008 10:45:34
Search -> Steven Weinberg Bruno Maddox

You find a lot of good information shooting down the article too.
#15

Tectuktitlay

Nov 08, 2008 11:19:00
How about a capacitor?

Well, yeah, duh. I wasn't asserting we can't already do that. But how much energy can this sort of magnetic system store by comparison for the same amount of space, and can it do so, like a capacitor, for potentially years if efficient enough? And how safe and passive is the system if implemented? It is certainly worth exploring, and might open up other avenues of interaction. I'm sure is it and has been explored my plenty of individuals, actually.
#16

kursk

Nov 08, 2008 12:34:20
Well, yeah, duh. I wasn't asserting we can't already do that. But how much energy can this sort of magnetic system store by comparison for the same amount of space, and can it do so, like a capacitor, for potentially years if efficient enough? And how safe and passive is the system if implemented? It is certainly worth exploring, and might open up other avenues of interaction. I'm sure is it and has been explored my plenty of individuals, actually.

I've messed with that configuration and haven't seen any electricity stored.
#17

maulorn

Nov 08, 2008 13:09:53
You made...?