I then proceeded to sit back down and become lost in the endless void of cyberspace again. (I need a life badly). As I sat there with a vacant expression on my face reading various blase info I found myself losing focus on the monitor and looking over at the TV more and more.
By the time Hogarth watches his late night movie I had swiveled my seat around and was happily lost in the wonderful world of childhood adventure. And I'm not afraid to admit by the end of the film I had a slight bit of moistness in the corners of my eyes.
For me this is one of the greatest examples of a well made and well thought out animated story that is not just kids stuff. And I personally enjoy animated movies. So I thought why not ask people that have great imaginations of their own what they have as their favorite animated movie and why?
So feel free to drop a line saying which movie they would like best to encourage other members of this forum to watch. Just try to keep the list small. I saw TemukaALietchfield's list of animated movies in the Anime thread http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1088241 and felt serious shame for my pitiful collection of DVDs.
Looking forward to reading your reasons for picking what you do and hoping that I'll find a few gems in there to expand the wonderment of that small kid in me as well.
those who have seen these probably understand why i like them....
another close call was the first Samurai X movie....where he got the scar.
The Incredibles in a dead heat with The Transformers: The Movie (the one from '86).
Someone with a mind after my own heart.
I remember saving up my allowance for a week to see that movie and then riding our bikes for an hour to get to the theatre. We had way too many of the toys and were completely pumped for the movie. Everything was fine until they said Optimus Prime had died. Whoah. Talk about a theatre full of kids who were ****** off! Thought they'd have a mini riot on their hands.
And the Incredibles was absolute stunning. Brad Bird has really impressed me by not only making stories that are fun to experience, but also have a fairly deep level of character development hidden under a lot of heart.
Not all that familiar with Vampire Hunter D. What is it that sold you on this movie? I mean, I could look up what it's about on Wikipedia, but I'm wondering why you enjoy it so much?
Cheers.
Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie
Akira
Metropolis
Jin Roh: The Wolf Brigade
...ugh, rest of my mind's a blank, now. Although "Raggedy Ann and Andy: A Musical Adventure" comes to mind. That "Camel with the Wrinkled Knees" had some groovy hallucinations.
What is it to be a human? What makes a human a human? I loved the way the show was able to make me wonder about my humanity.
Several of the recent Pixar creations are totally impossible to decide upon for humour level. The fact that an adult can sit and laugh their ass off about obvious to an adult jokes, and not need to worry that their grade 3 daughter is watching the same show, because most of the humour needs an adult's experiences to actually get the joke.
Robots. Some assembly required "Remember dear, the fun part is making the baby". Man that was precious
Princess Mononoke was also quite incredible, but was a bit graphically violent, so not as approachable with kids present.
I thought The Spirits Within was a superb story, as well as a stunning display of computer based video entertainment.
The Incredibles.
I'll also keep my eyes open for My Neighbor Totoro, but unfortunately living in a redneck backwards town that relies on oil, booze, and fighting for fun in northern Alberta somewhat limits the selection of flicks you can get your hands on. Can't wait until I get out to the coast.
I didn't even realize there was a Street Fighter Animated Movie. I'll keep an eye out for that. Loved those games when I was younger.
And Akira was just on the tube the other day. Great flick.
Thanks for the suggestions all! Feel free to leave some more.
Cheers!
It's a '95 film, made way before the live action film. There's also a Street Fighter Alpha animated film, which also roxx0rz.
'Course I'm kind of a Street Fighter freak.
Also, I enjoyed WallE immensely.
Incredibles
Transformers the movie
Wall-e
Beauty and the Beast
There's also a Street Fighter Alpha animated film, which also roxx0rz.
Even though it had little to do with the actual Street Fighter Alpha game, it can be forgiven (and Akuma was just too bad ass there, even if they did turn him into a giant).
..but, let us never speak of Street Fighter Alpha: Generations ever again. :embarrass
That said, of course Akira and Princess Mononoke are quality films
Flight of Dragons was great for me as a kid. Silly around the edges, but good for the youngsters.
The original Fantasia.
Good pick on Iron Giant. Brad Bird is the man. The Simpsons were blessed to have both he and Conan O'Brien on staff at one point. I am convinced that those two are the reason The Simpsons are still around today...
The Secret of Nimh is number one in my book. Don Bluth took no prisoners back in the day; remember the ship of bones on a sea of lava from the first "All Dogs Go to Heaven"? I nearly crapped myself in a theater when I saw that. DB used to be able to feature 10x the pathos and atmosphere that most anime attempts to include.
I saw this as a small child and it blew my mind.
You've just made me think:
The Dark Crystal (I'd say this is also one of the best fantasy movies). If you haven't seen this then you really should.
The Lord of the Rings animated. Using rotoscope animation (cells drawn over live action footage) it was a great adaption. Much more condensed than Peter Jacksons, yet also more faithful to the spirit of the bok. A commercial disaster though.
Watership Down A film about rabbits that gave them personalities but didn't make them too human. Great voice-over acting and animation.
Pink Floyd's The Wall Okay, only part of the film is animated but it's incredible.
And "The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys" Again this is a live action film with animated sections. It's about a group of kids at a convent school who defy a tyrnaical nun ((Jodie Foster) and live a parrelel lives in acomic they wrote themselves (the animated adventure based on their comic parralels their actual lives). Also features an interesting use for a Walmart blowgun.
1) The original Transformers had a profound effect on me as a child. The disregard for the death of so many autobots, as well as the emotional impact of Op's bravery and Hot Rods transention. Wow! But, I likely won't ever watch it again. I want to remember it exactly the way it is in my mind and I'm afraid a new look wouldn't hold up to my memory.
2) The Secret of Nimh. Excellent story. It was an adult story with character kids could like.
3) Watership Down. If you saw this as a child I needn't explain.
4) Vampire Hunter D. I know everybody likes it, but its that good.
5) Ghost In The Shell. Fun to watch but too much introspection and dialogue. But the things I didn't like are exactly what make watching it again worthwhile. Its the only one on this lost I own.
6) Ice Age. I saw this as an adult and was completely caught up in the story. I felt like a kid.
Thats all I got now.
For traditional animation, I'll go with Cowboy Bebop: Knocking on Heaven's Door.
For CG animation, the Incredibles (or, as I like to think of it, Watchmen for the Whole Family)
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children had excellent fight scenes and music--what esle do you expect from Nobuo Uematsu?--but I don't recall much character development.
I always did enjoy most of those early Disney ones.
Went out and tried to rent some flicks that were mentioned tonight. Unfortunately my local video stores selection is sparse to say the least. Ended up grabbing Akira as it was on the top of their pile. Didn't feel too much like digging through it at that time.
A lot of great recommendations on here so far and I thank everyone that threw in some input. Thinking about buying a quality TV and surround sound system when I get my new place and I think I'll try and get ahold of some newer Anime flicks to try out on it.
Cheers!
.I love the Miyazaki movies. My favorites two are Princess Mononoke and Howl's Moving Castle (I love Howl ! :inlove
Come on, so much violence and blood. They are fine movies, but My Neigbor Totoro out shine them all by it's simplicity, harmony and reference to the more peacefull Japanese mythes. I even prefer Spirited Away and Kiki's Delivery Service to the two previous films.
But I guess we just have different tastes. ;)
Come on, so much violence and blood. They are fine movies, but My Neigbor Totoro out shine them all by it's simplicity, harmony and reference to the more peacefull Japanese mythes. I even prefer Spirited Away and Kiki's Delivery Service to the two previous films.
But I guess we just have different tastes. ;)
And yet again I'm left with the decision to either find a better video store once I move or relegate myself to watching horribly bad quality copies of these movies on YouTube.
-sigh-
And yet again I'm left with the decision to either find a better video store once I move or relegate myself to watching horribly bad quality copies of these movies on YouTube.
-sigh-
www.netflix.com
www.amazon.com
Add Zip.ca to the list for Canadians. I've used them before, great anime stash.
Sweet. I'll think about it once I'm settled in the new place. Thing is I know Nanaimo has a couple of places that have a good selection of Anime, so I'm not too worried.
Come on, so much violence and blood. They are fine movies, but My Neigbor Totoro out shine them all by it's simplicity, harmony and reference to the more peacefull Japanese mythes. I even prefer Spirited Away and Kiki's Delivery Service to the two previous films.
But I guess we just have different tastes. ;)
To be honest I love all Miyazaki films, but I am annoyingly open minded. I can't recall any blood or violence in Howl's Moving Castle, but if you say there is I guess I'll have to hunt for it.
Karas had violence. The Samurai X movies had violence.
www.netflix.com
www.amazon.com
You could download them from fansites too..
.Even though it had little to do with the actual Street Fighter Alpha game, it can be forgiven (and Akuma was just too bad ass there, even if they did turn him into a giant).
..but, let us never speak of Street Fighter Alpha: Generations ever again. :embarrass
Well, really, even the Alpha games themselves didn't have much to do with each other. Especially the best game of the three, Alpha 3.
Oh and you're right about Akuma. "A true warrior... enters the arena... with all his powers... at the ready."
Going back to SFII: The Animated Movie-- that has got to be the BEST animated opening scene I've ever seen.
Oh and someone mentioned Kiki's Delivery Service. My wife loves that movie.
I'm sure I'll get pelted with tomatoes for saying this, but the animated movie that had the biggest effect on me the first time I saw it was The Lion King.
Eh, nothin' wrong with that.
And Cowboy Bebop the movie is awful.
To be honest I love all Miyazaki films, but I am annoyingly open minded. I can't recall any blood or violence in Howl's Moving Castle, but if you say there is I guess I'll have to hunt for it.
Karas had violence. The Samurai X movies had violence.
I love all of Myazaki's films also, they are fantastic!!
I must also admit I love every kind of films and don't really have a problem with violence, blood and guts. Heck, I love the old classic zombie flicks.
What I was saying was limited to Myazaki's filmography. I believe is best films where the one that conveyed a feeling of youth and innocence.
For Howl's Moving Castle, there are aerial war sequences. The whole atmosphere is based on the conflict. But maybe I am confusing with another movie.
And there ain't nothing at all wrong with loving the Lion King. That movie was stunning.
Of course, the one that still gets me is Beauty and The Beast.
What makes them the best, no questions asked? My nostalgia blinders.
And Cowboy Bebop the movie is awful.
Any reason why you think this?
The Transformers: The Movie
The Lion King
The Incredibles
Those are all tied for 1st place either for genuine quality or nostalgia value. :D
Later in life, I craftily hid my box (the original one with Transformers art) of Transformers from a generation of nephews and cousins who lusted after them the way I had before. They could never play with the care I had! I didn't want little Insectacon arms broken and Cliffjumper was so tiny he'd vanish for sure! I used the internet to finally get every comic up to issue 50. The ones after are harder to come by. My childhood best friend and I - we rarely see each other - still reminisce and geek out over trivia and facts.
So...
I had terribly high hopes for the newest Transformers movie when it came out. So high that perhaps it was destined to crumble. I went to see it and saw nothing but what they could've/should've done with it. It was based on what I saw they actually had done. I saw what they were capable of and the attention to detail in fluid movement of the robots. I couldn't get past that it was essentially a movie about teenagers where there happened to be some big robots too. I couldn't get past the carelesness with which my hero's personas were reduced to a line or two of dialogue. I know people who loved it too. My hopes were too high.
Are you kidding me??? How could no one mention the Last Unicorn or Flight of the Dragons? I'm living in a world gone mad! :P
I mentioned Flight of the Dragons! I got DIC cred!
The Last Unicorn was lost on me as a littl'un. All I remember is the geeky looking wizard and that friggin bull. I couldn't hide my head under the covers without thinking a Flaming Bull was going to be charging up my PJs.
I never got the whole Anime thing. American animation has always been my favorite, from Termite Terrace onward.
And when I say American, I mean American concepts animated by Koreans. Except Bluth; I'm pretty sure it was all in-house and in the US for his stuff.
There was a time in my life when the Transformers were the most important element in my life. I really didn't care about anything else. Back when cartoons played after school and Saturday mornings, as they should, I was religious in watching the show. I collected what comics I could afford. I collected what toys I could afford. One of my proudest moments I remember was when I saved my allowance week after week and finally bought the 6th Constructacon.
Later in life, I craftily hid my box (the original one with Transformers art) of Transformers from a generation of nephews and cousins who lusted after them the way I had before. They could never play with the care I had! I didn't want little Insectacon arms broken and Cliffjumper was so tiny he'd vanish for sure! I used the internet to finally get every comic up to issue 50. The ones after are harder to come by. My childhood best friend and I - we rarely see each other - still reminisce and geek out over trivia and facts.
So...
I had terribly high hopes for the newest Transformers movie when it came out. So high that perhaps it was destined to crumble. I went to see it and saw nothing but what they could've/should've done with it. It was based on what I saw they actually had done. I saw what they were capable of and the attention to detail in fluid movement of the robots. I couldn't get past that it was essentially a movie about teenagers where there happened to be some big robots too. I couldn't get past the carelesness with which my hero's personas were reduced to a line or two of dialogue. I know people who loved it too. My hopes were too high.
I feel your pain my friend. I too was a Transformers Junkie. (Or would that be Junkion?) Regardless I was also so disappointed with what they could of done with the movie and what wasn't done weighed heavily on my mind. While I did have that little tingle go up my spine upon hearing Optimus Prime in the awesome voice of Peter Cullen saying "Megatron must be stopped, no matter the cost." It still wasn't enough.
An Ironhide without a Southern drawl and crotchety sayings? A Jazz who didn't sound like Scatman Cruthers and talk hip? And worst of all, a Bumblebee who wasn't a VW bug? Made me want to cry a little.
OH well. At least I still have one of my favorite animated movies of all time to reminisce with! (And you were wondering how I'd tie this into this thread!)
Off to Blockbuster tonight! Hopefully they will have a slightly better selection of Anime flicks to pick from. I'm still hoping to see some of these movies that everyone keeps mentioning over and over on this thread. To have that many people enjoying them tells me they must be something good.
Just finished watching Akira tonight. Gotta say, that movie holds up pretty damned good for being almost 20 years old now. And seeing how much influence it's had in popular culture shows that Anime is a viable media form, much like the classics and the new cutting edge computer stuff as well.
Cheers all!
For me it was always the catchy tunes in those movies that caught my attention!
"Where there's a whip! (Krachow!) Then there's a way!"
"The greatest adventure..."
Classics.
Though I believe that if Winnie The Pooh deserves honorable mention for nice fuzzy childhood memories.
Hee hee, that silly bear.
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Though I believe that if Winnie The Pooh deserves honorable mention for nice fuzzy childhood memories.
Hee hee, that silly bear.
The wonderful thing about tiggers
Is tiggers are wonderful things!
Their tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms are made out of springs!
They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun!
But the most wonderful thing about tiggers is
I'm the only one
Tiggers are cuddly fellas
Tiggers are awfully sweet
Ev'ryone el-us is jealous
That's why I repeat... and repeat
The wonderful thing about tiggers
Is tiggers are marvelous claps!
They're loaded with vim and vigor
They love to leap in your laps!
They're jumpy, bumpy, clumpy, thumpy
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun!
But the most wonderful thing about tiggers is
I'm the only one
I-I-I'm , the only one!
It's gotta be hard to make a character come alive using only your voice. But Paul Winchell made sure there was never a doubt in my mind as a kid that somewhere there was a living, bouncing, bumbling, fumbling ball of energy called Tigger. Those old Winnie The Pooh stories were so much fun for me and I can't wait until the day comes I get to share them with my kids.
Does anyone remember the movie Wizards about the twin wizards? The one with the war between the magic and technology? That was some pretty funky animation.
I mentioned Flight of the Dragons! I got DIC cred!
The Last Unicorn was lost on me as a littl'un. All I remember is the geeky looking wizard and that friggin bull. I couldn't hide my head under the covers without thinking a Flaming Bull was going to be charging up my PJs.
Props, my friend! I mean... John Ritter (ok ok, Peter Dickinson) defeating Omaddon (sp) the way he did? I always laugh, but I love it none the less! Plus Omaddon is one scary bad guy!
I loved the Last Unicorn... not just the antagonist which was the bull... but the drunk skeleton, the gypsies with their magical beasts... wonderful fantasy stuff, but both seemed to have a kind of, idk, depressing tone like the worlds of fantasy were dying. Neverending story did that too! (not animated, though)
Slightly off topic, but definitely worth noting while we're on the subject:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/1600-nostalgia-critic-top-11-saddest-moments
@ Darkraven. You got me. I still own the hobbit, but never did, in fact, see the animated Fellowship of the Rings (did they just do return of the king, as you posted, or all three?)
It's gotta be hard to make a character come alive using only your voice. But Paul Winchell made sure there was never a doubt in my mind as a kid that somewhere there was a living, bouncing, bumbling, fumbling ball of energy called Tigger. Those old Winnie The Pooh stories were so much fun for me and I can't wait until the day comes I get to share them with my kids.
QFT. The voices of Winnie, Tigger, and Eeyore will be with me until the day I die. "Oh Bother"
In fact, wasn't the guy who played Winnie in an underrated, semi-animated disney classic, Bedknobs and Broomsticks? (edit: Sterling Holloway, and I'm wrong.)
"Treguna Mekoides and Trecorum Satis Dee
I don't want locomotiary substitution
Or remote intrasitory convolution
Only one precise solution is the key
Substitutiary locomotion it must be
Treguna Mekoides and Trecorum Satis Dee"
Anime: Akira (the Citizen Caine of anime). Most Miyazake (Mononoke & Spirited Away namely). Ghost in the Shell was pretty decent, etc. Loved Robotech as a kid.
Transformers as a kid, yeah, what a great summer, what, like '86? Hype hype hype. Then the movie last year...wtf? That director is a hack too.
Kids Stuff: Wall-E was amazing, photorealistic (you can't tell its CGI) at parts, most Pixar (Incredibles, their film shorts, etc) is very good. Lady and the Tramp (I'm sentimental, sorry). WWII era Bugs Bunny, Droopy, etc.
Don't always care for the new generation, politically correct Disney stuff though, too hoaky or sugarcoated.
Normal: Most Tim Burton stuff. Definetly the Hobbit (burned out the VHS w/ that and the G.I. Joe movie as a kid). The Brothers Quay (surrealist Czech stop-action animators [see Tool videos, etc]).
Are you kidding me??? How could no one mention the Last Unicorn or Flight of the Dragons? I'm living in a world gone mad! :P
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Flight of the Dragons! It's one of those films I remember clearly but never remembered the title. I loved the bit where he destroys the demon by listing sciences.
Never saw "The Last Unicorn".
Did you ever see Starchaser: The Legend of Orin? I saw it in 3D in the cinema. It's a total Star Wars rip off (and has some prety Matrix themes as well - they had the good sesnse to rip of the Matrix 20 years before it came out though (that always fools people.
But am I the only person who thinks The Dark Crystal is an amazing film?
QFT. The voices of Winnie, Tigger, and Eeyore will be with me until the day I die. "Oh Bother".
On the topic of Winnie the Pooh, I had (and still have, somewhere) a Winnie the Pooh teddy bear that had an internal music box that played the theme song when you wound it up. Until the age of 4 or 5, I couldn't get to sleep without it.
Slightly off topic, but definitely worth noting while we're on the subject:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/1600-nostalgia-critic-top-11-saddest-moments
Watching that made me remember something: I cried at the end of the game The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening.
You know, I'm both surprised and ashamed at myself that I didn't include this in my list, but.. Beavis and Butt-head Do America.
But the Title "The Lord of the Rings" rather than "The Lord of the Rigns PT !" left audiences going "WTF!?" when the film stopped way before the ending (on British TV they did a 5 minute summary of the rest of the story).
You know, I'm both surprised and ashamed at myself that I didn't include this in my list, but.. Beavis and Butt-head Do America.
Damn Straight!
I think the show exposed me to more music than even my most obnoxious indie friends. It's a shame they don't include the videos on the DVDs...
Rob Zombie would be a nobody right now if not for Beavis and Butthead.
Now movie wise
Escaflowne, or Princess Monanoke
Series wise Chrono Crusade, Noir, Slayers or Magical Knights Rayearth, or Samurai seven (an adaptation of the movie seven samurai)
I love anime because they resemble novels. Character development, real plotlines, and a definitve ending all lacking in most american shows especially ones like friends and frasier which to me had no discenible plot, point, or character development.
As for liking Lion King - no problem with that. Disney didn't get to be so gigantic without making good, classic movies for yer formative years that tug at the heart-strings. :P
My top 2 animated movies are also my top 2 favorite movies period:
#2 - The Incredibles,
#1 - The Nightmare Before Christmas
TNBC especially instilled in me a real sense of wonder, poetry, and imagination when I saw it in theaters (and this was when I thought I was too "old" to be having those eyes-wide, soak-in-the-atmosphere feelings). It breaks my heart that the "Hot Topicization" as I call it has relegated the movie to a marketing device for lazy goths and considered "lame" or overexposed by many others. I'm sure there are at least a few people who refuse to watch it for that very reason.
Of course, I'm sure there's others who just didn't like it for taste reasons, which is fine. Everyone's taste is different.
Any reason why you think this?
"Awful" was probably a bit harsh, but I didn't like the movie anywhere near as much as I like the series. A big part of it was that the music was so different. I felt like that took some of the Cowboy Bebop feel I was used to. And a lot of the movie felt like filler. It seemed like a mediocre episode with a bunch of padding thrown in to extend it to movie length. Also, the script translation was far worse than I'd come to expect from the series. I suppose it was more disappointing than bad, but point being that I did not like it very much.
spirited away
finding nemo
anything disney before hercules. especially pinocchio and beauty and the beast.
spirited away
finding nemo
Speaking of nemos...there's also Little Nemo: adventures in Slumberland. It's pretty great - especially for anyone who played the old school NES game, or discovered the near-century-old, surreal comic strips by Windsor McKay that it's all based on.
Aladdin
The Lion King
The Land Before Time
The Incredibles
And that includes anime I've seen. Anime series are often good, but I've found that most japanese animated movies I've seen haven't been quite as awesome - Steamboy is pretty cool, for instance, as are Princess Mononoke and Akira, but I can't really put them above the films I listed above.
I swear there's some other film I'm trying to think of, but can't, which is awesome.
Anyway, Batman Subzero (This from a guy who isn't much of a Batman fan), My Nieghbor Tottoro, and Spirited Away are my absolutely faveorite movies. The GitS movies aren't far behind either. An dI just can't help ut love DBZ: Tree of Might and Worlds Finest for some odd reason *I really don't like the show past the Saiyan Saga*
Anyone that says Akira is anything other than mediocre needs to be slapped........okay maybe not slapped, how about a good stern talking to?
Anyway, Batman Subzero (This from a guy who isn't much of a Batman fan), My Nieghbor Tottoro, and Spirited Away are my absolutely faveorite movies. The GitS movies aren't far behind either. An dI just can't help ut love DBZ: Tree of Might and Worlds Finest for some odd reason *I really don't like the show past the Saiyan Saga*
I thought it was far more than mediocre.....I felt that it was a masterpiece...It had a good mature moral to it.
The first 2 times i saw it i was dissapointed by it...but i was under 15 years old then....
i watched it when i was older and realized what a great movie it was.
you have to rub a few braincells together to appreciate it...kind of like a stanley kubrick film...
, very awesome. Heres an intro fight amv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAR8x3Ss6hI&NR=1.The Last Unicorn, Watership Down, and Secret of NYMH have already been mentioned, as well as LOTR/Hobbit...
I'm surprised noone's mentioned Heavy Metal yet...
I'm really partial to the older 70's/early 80's American and British stuff myself... You have to admit, most of them have absolutely huge, popular bands doing the soundtracks.
There's one in the spirit of Watership Down that came out in the early 80's called Plague Dogs...
Anything by Ralph Bakshi is good... Very Trippy and really deep.
Another good one is LIGHT YEARS...
Starring the voices of Glenn Close and Christopher Plummer, among others. It's very deep and just overall an extremely rich film.
Overall, I'd have to say that The Last Unicorn is probably my overall favorite, simply because it's one of only about a dozen movies I've seen in my life that I can watch more than once every six months or so without it losing any of it's entertainment value and emotional impact.
I like the cartoon tv show. I would be a great inspiration for al-Qadim campaings.
Well...
The Last Unicorn, Watership Down, and Secret of NYMH have already been mentioned, as well as LOTR/Hobbit...
Good calls that. Especially the last two.
Wtrshpdwn is always a kids favorite. Kind of reminded me of Animal Farm too.
Good calls that. Especially the last two.
Wtrshpdwn is always a kids favorite. Kind of reminded me of Animal Farm too.
Watership Down gave me nightmares. Watching the blood field, or the psycho bully rabbit (can't remember his name) as well as some of the brutal fights... even the dogs were like nasty monsters. *shivers*
Need to go see my therapist :P
Anyone that says Akira is anything other than mediocre needs to be slapped........okay maybe not slapped, how about a good stern talking to?
If you're quite done auditioning for the part of "Overly Opinionated Messageboard Twit"...
I only said that Akira was my favorite - not that it's "the best" or even that good. Even if it's mediocre (I can think of plenty of other animated films that are much better), it's still my favorite, nonetheless. I saw the film at a certain point in my life where it just stuck with me, that's all. For me, it's similar to preferring an musician's early & more obscure material in spite of the fact that they never had a hit record until much later in their career. Favorites can be weird that way.
Iron Giant
The Incredibles
Finding Nemo
South Park: BLU
Toy Story 2
Anyone that says Akira is anything other than mediocre needs to be slapped........okay maybe not slapped, how about a good stern talking to?
Anyway, Batman Subzero (This from a guy who isn't much of a Batman fan), My Nieghbor Tottoro, and Spirited Away are my absolutely faveorite movies. The GitS movies aren't far behind either. An dI just can't help ut love DBZ: Tree of Might and Worlds Finest for some odd reason *I really don't like the show past the Saiyan Saga*
As a fan of irony, the sheer unmitigated hilarity someone who professes to "love" Dragonball Z calling Akira mediocre is much appreciated.
As a fan of irony, the sheer unmitigated hilarity someone who professes to "love" Dragonball Z calling Akira mediocre is much appreciated.
You'll note that I never said DBZ is good :P.
And like I said, I have problems with the film Akira, I love the manga, the film was just a mess.
Rob Zombie would be a nobody right now if not for Beavis and Butthead.
Sorry mate, but that just shows you know sod-all about Rob Zombie's career.
You'll note that I never said DBZ is good :P.
Which is why I didn't call you a dirty liar. ;)
And like I said, I have problems with the film Akira, I love the manga, the film was just a mess.
Oh I agree, it was a total mess…but it was a good mess - at least at the time. Sadly, it doesn't really hold up now.
Plus it was hand drawn. Do you know what kind of committment it takes to do that, especially for such detail w/ such limited resources '88 had? Monumental project to be sure. Everything is digital/CGI now and the hand, IMO, is still vastly superior vs. digital rendering. Digital is more cost effective and saves time, but it cuts jobs & doesn't have the precision, detail, and flexibility that hand does. That gap is narrowing though, digi is getting better and yes, eventually, will be superior itself, but I'm a traditionalist in the arts.
As for the manga ot cinema transition; text based accuracy isn't an issue. Always gonna' be changes for good or ill in from 1 format to another (namely, print to cinema). Same thing w/ LoTR so many whined about. It can't be verbatim to the original text, it never works that way well and often makes for poor film. Slow spots in flow, scripting issues, editing concerns, etc., easy enough to declare "next chapter", way harder w/ a producer, director, and hundreds of other people that the film project is contingent on.
Bla bla bla. Sorry for rambling. Trust me, it's a very good film in the broad view.
Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9tHrWdYaFo
I love a lot of other animated movies, and some of the truly awesome ones have been mentioned, but that one still rates as the best for me.
As for the manga ot cinema transition; text based accuracy isn't an issue. Always gonna' be changes for good or ill in from 1 format to another (namely, print to cinema). Same thing w/ LoTR so many whined about. It can't be verbatim to the original text, it never works that way well and often makes for poor film. Slow spots in flow, scripting issues, editing concerns, etc., easy enough to declare "next chapter", way harder w/ a producer, director, and hundreds of other people that the film project is contingent on.
QFT.
It took me a while to realize, but I finally don't care how much or how little a movie resembles its book counterpart - as long as it's good, I'm happy. They're two different mediums, changes are not only allowed, they're often necessary.
Though on that note, if anyone says "the Dungeons & Dragons movie"...heads will roll!
:PIt's why I love fantasy in all it's forms. It has everything, an evil witch, a fierce fire-breathing dragon, a handsome prince and fey that help the hero to conquer the ultimate evil!, drunken kings, intrigue, magic and the original commoner/princess.
That is a beautiful movie.
The Dungeons and Dragons movie. Sorry. I just had to do that
Ze paaaaain! ...Yeah I figured someone would. :P
Damn Wayanses...didn't help that movie was probably my one chance to see a beholder on the big screen, and they didn't even fight it. How the beholder failed that Spot check is beyond me...
Oh I agree, it was a total mess…but it was a good mess - at least at the time. Sadly, it doesn't really hold up now.
Still a mess. But at least it wasn't Naussicaa of the Valley of the Wind *Read it first, saw it second. Bad idea*.
The Dungeons and Dragons movie. Sorry. I just had to do that
It wasn't animated!
OH GODS YOU MADE ME REMEMBER SOMETHING ABOUT IT! YOU MADE ME REMEMBER IT EXISTED!
The pain!
The goggles they do nooooothing!
Am I the only person who would probably put Galaxy Express 999 on that list? That old late 70s anime is AMAZING! It's easily my favorite anime movie, followed closely by Zeiram the Animation, thats an awesome flick too.
This part i'm about to say may belong in a seperate thread. But I think with the jump from traditional hand drawn animation to computer animation, it feels inferior to me, something has been lost.
Partially it must be that EVERY of those pixar movies and such are all comedies and they have yet to try their hands at something with a bit more drama in it like the older don bluth films (he is godly!). Or perhaps those painted backgrounds and the VERY smooth animation (amazing how many frames they used per second/minute in those older animated movies from the 80s, namely bluth's).
Again, all of that computer animation from pixar is very cartoony and very slapstick with some humor only adults would get. Which is fine and some of them I love. (incredibles, wall-e). But I hope that animation will look back to it's roots and get back to incredible hand-drawn flicks. I hear bluth is thinking of doing an animation of Dragon's Lair in the old style =)
anyways one more point... GET RID OF STRAIGHT TO DVD RELEASES O_O THE LOWEST OF THE LOW!
Wonderful music, great animation and a decently funny storyline too.
(I got rhythm...in my soul...sometimes rhythm makes me lose control-HACHA-CHA-CHA)
My thing is this, I don't give a damn if something was amazing back in the day.
Wow, spoken like a true modern day pop culture junkie. No disrespect or anything, but you just excluded more chronology of choice cinema than you've even lived in this lifetime. Furthermore, when you're old and decrepit, someone's gonna' rag on The Descent (admittedly, outstanding horror film, even the America version got high marks) cuz' it's not cool and modern like the stuff they'll have then. That is, no bearing on anything apart from what they know at that immediate time due to ignorance and a sense of entitlement.
That is to say, those classics were gems back in the day, and failing to understand the difference in time and resources then from a present tense POV only puts the emphasis on "I want to be entertained only", not actually appreciate, let alone understand, intelligent writing, good camera work, direction, whatever floats your boat.
If I don't enjoy something now I won't enjoy it when it first came out. Tetsuo the Iron Man is a dated film and I love it more than most modern horror movies (The Desenct gets close, and I mean with the actual damn ending, not the wussy American one).
1)It's not the same. If you see a movie in the theatre when it first comes out, then many years down the road, your prior experience and own time line will color the XP for you too. Just picking up a copy of Ben Hur w/out having lived through the time and seen others movies AT THAT TIME or having formal film schooling, you will not be able to appreciate it at the level you might have been able to.
It's like D&D w/ a non gamer and bad DM. Major turnoff. But if you have a decent DM than can whet whistles and slowly indoctrinate and train a non gamer, well, they are some of the biggest converts once they see this "dated form of gaming" (like older movies) in the face of "constant video game stimulation". The parallel is lose, but apt nonetheless.
The parallel is lose, but apt nonetheless.
"That's what she said!"
Right? High five guys? High fi-
"That's what she said!"
Right? High five guys? High fi-
Heh...nice.
So, this clown and this little boy are walking down an old trail leading into a dark and rather ominous looking forest.
Nervous, the little boy takes the clown's hand and says, "I'm scared."
The clowns turns and replies, "How do you think I feel, I gotta' walk back alone."
;)
I can't wait until the extended version comes out and yes I'll be only watching it in sub.
I never saw Advent Children, but I heard the story was crap. Could you give me the basics of the storyline so I could decide whether it was worth getting? My brother was so horrified by it he refused to get into details. He's really into FF7, so I guess it was to him what the D&D movie is to me.
Is Adam Sessler your brother?
Okay, seriously, I really liked Advent Children, but obviously, not everyone will like it. IMO, it's better if you watch it and judge the movie for yourself. Just because Ebert gave Lakeview Terrace four stars doesn't mean you'll be blown away by it.
As far as 'Animated' movies, does the current generation of over the top CGI laden half animated half live action films work, ala Casshern?
Just curious.
As far as old movies go, I say: "watch what you like". You can certainly have an appreciation for a film and what it meant historically but that doesn't mean that you have to like it. I can think of a ton of movies that I appreciate for what they represent (influenced, inspired) but that doesn't mean that I LIKE them, or would ever watch them again.
Hello...many of these old films are just world class BORING during the first watch, let alone sitting down and watching them AGAIN.
I am a pretty big anime fan, and I was never really all that impressed by Akira Everyone I know was, all my friends were, but ME? Not so much.
Did anyone catch the animation in Appleseed Ex Machina?
I've only gotten a chance to watch the first Appleseed and was happily wowed at the impressiveness of it.
Just watched GitS: Solid State Society, now that is easily in my top 5.
All so, anyone here seen Steam Boy? If so how is it?
This might be an erroneous observation, but I've found a statistically significant number of people who pick that changeling icon as their avatar are also huge anime fans. Random thought I know. :P
That just means we have good taste ;) !
Howl's Moving Castle
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Porco Rosso
Laputa: Castle in the Sky
My neighbour Totoro
Kiki's Delivery Service
Ninja Scroll
Akira
Ghost in a Shell
Disney:
Robin Hood
Aladin
heck, most Disney films are good
The Incredibles
Monster's Inc
Finding Nemo
heck, I don't think there is a Pixar film that I don't like.
FFVII Advent Children was awesome, whoever said they didn't like it ... should watch it again. After I watched it the first time I went back and played through all of FFVII again, even going so far as to kill all the weapons and get all the master matiera, which is something I hadn't done before then.
I was pretty meh on Appleseed. Didn't like it to much, probably gonna give it a second chance.
Just watched GitS: Solid State Society, now that is easily in my top 5.
All so, anyone here seen Steam Boy? If so how is it?
New Appleseed was alright, better than avg. IMO I guess. It's hard getting used to the CGI adjustments these days, but for what it's worth, the future of animation nonetheless is going to be digital for better or worse.
"Do you hear that Mr. Anderson? That's the sound of inevitability."
GitS: SS, never heard of it. Just the series and the 2 films. How is it?
Loved the films; action/fast motion was rendered really well. Reminds me of "Spriggan" (recommended), a hyper violent anime.
Steam Boy was excellent. It's an Otomo as well and given your XP w/ Akira, I don't wanna' say it'll be right for you, but it's higher end anime cuz' of the art direction for 1, 2 though, it's more modern ('06?) so design is more modern...despite it being steampunk victorian england; surprising considering it's anime (Japanese). They get on these kicks and milk a genre till it's a husk.
Anyone that mentioned a Miyazaki film is my new best friend. Miyazaki is brilliant. I love all of his movies that I've seen (which, sadly, is not all of them. Haven't been able to get Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind, or a couple others)
Hi Ixien_Kothar, my new best friend.
I agree, Miyazaki is just, simply, brilliant. IMO....
Spirited Away, is numero uno...
My Neighbor Totoro, second...
then...
Kiki's Delivery Service
Howl's Moving Castle
Princess Mononoke
Castle in the Sky
...all tie for third.
As far as finding any movies you want to watch, Netflix is your friend, they have all the Miyazaki stuff.
@ 1 Ton Ghost
Steamboy was pretty good, I initially thought I was going to be disappointed but it got better as it went along. Good action, good animation, engaging story; it kind of reminded me of Kaena: The Prophecy, with some of the plot elements, and story development.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/best_animated_films/
50 Best Animated Films of All Time.
I suggest reading "how it works" if you haven't visited the sight. A lot of the films mentioned so far is in the thread are on the list.
I was a bit suprised by some of the great films on the list no one has mentioned, though. Then again, this is about "favorites" and not the best :P. I won't tell what #1 is though... or where Akira is considering all the posts it got!
I thought this would be of interest to the thread:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/best_animated_films/
50 Best Animated Films of All Time.
I was a bit surprised by some of the great films on the list no one has mentioned, though.
Wow, thanks for that Terronus. An interesting list indeed. I'd forgotten all about James and the Giant Peach! And letting Who Framed Roger Rabbit? count is a good call, just to see it mentioned more...
Sidenote - has anyone here seen Persepolis? I haven't, it looks interesting...wondering if it's worth a watch.
Edit: I just got to #1 on that list and I must say that I am VERY disappointed. If that is the #1 animated movie, than I will eat my shoes (and I wear size 15 shoes, so that's a lot o' shoe!!)
Glad that already some people have enjoyed it, however.
Whether we think the numbers are off (I know I do for a lot of them), or films aren't mentioned (darn you Flight of the Dragons!!) The list, collectively, has a lot of great movies. Even the #1 film deserved to be on there... but I definitely don't think it should have been #1.
Its also important, if you have the time and interest, to read some of the critical reviews. Having studied cinema, often times its important to read why a film is good, instead of just settling for why I liked it. Trust me, I have dozens of films I like which are considered, critically, to be garbagio... and also films which I know to be excellent but don't like them at all.
Certainly the best works of superhero animation (well other than the Incredibles.)
Directed most of the Batman animated movies and produced most of the later ones otherwise I like most of other ones mentioned frequently here.
What no love for the works of Bruce Tim.
Certainly the best works of superhero animation (well other than the Incredibles.)
Directed most of the Batman animated movies and produced most of the later ones otherwise I like most of other ones mentioned frequently here.
You're right. I loved Batman, but to me, it was second to X-Men. I was heavy into Marvel when I was a kid, and I thought Batman was the only DC hero with a pair (I hate Superman and still do).
That just means we have good taste ;) !
That we do.
I thought this would be off interest to the thread:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/best_animated_films/
50 Best Animated Films of All Time.
I suggest reading "how it works" if you haven't visited the sight. A lot of the films mentioned so far is in the thread are on the list.
I was a bit suprised by some of the great films on the list no one has mentioned, though. Then again, this is about "favorites" and not the best :P. I won't tell what #1 is though... or where Akira is considering all the posts it got!
This is a horrible list :\ i mean... wow... some of them I can say "ok, i get it"... but wow... chicken run at #8? You HAVE to be kidding me.... I wonder how much of this they went and actually asked people or if it is there personal opinions.
I don't think I see a SINGLE bluth film in there. I don't see all dogs go to heaven, I don't see an american tail and i ESPECIALLY don't see his best work (which should be in the top 10 or 5) is The Secret of NIMH.
A awful list that I wouldn't trust
What? No flash love? He's probably my favorite superhero of all. :D
Dude, I love the Flash, he has some of my faveorite stories and villians (The Rogues>Batmans Gallery). He's up there with Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Kyle Rayner (Can you tell I'm a GL fan?), Deadshot, and Catwoman
This is a horrible list :\ i mean... wow... some of them I can say "ok, i get it"... but wow... chicken run at #8? You HAVE to be kidding me.... I wonder how much of this they went and actually asked people or if it is there personal opinions.
I agree.
That is that I don't think the list is any good. PAH-LEESE, numbers 1-10 were a JOKE!
Again there is a difference between good and influential. There were a few influential films on that list, but they are clearly showing their age, and not nearly as good (technically, storywise, animated, themed) as many in more recent history. :D
This is a horrible list :\ i mean... wow... some of them I can say "ok, i get it"... but wow... chicken run at #8? You HAVE to be kidding me.... I wonder how much of this they went and actually asked people or if it is there personal opinions.
I don't think I see a SINGLE bluth film in there. I don't see all dogs go to heaven, I don't see an american tail and i ESPECIALLY don't see his best work (which should be in the top 10 or 5) is The Secret of NIMH.
A awful list that I wouldn't trust
These are critics... from published sources ranging from the New York Times and Washington Post to online critics, but not people they just went out and asked and certainly not a personal opinion. You didn't read "how it works", did you? And while I respect your opinion that Bluth was a fairly good director, saying "This list is horrible because I don't like it." (paraphrased) is a bit silly.
A tangent:
"Backstreet Boys are horrible." is very, very different from saying "I don't like the Backstreet Boys." Because the fact is, I would love to be able to sing as well as them... maybe not what they sang, however.
As much as I half joked that 123 critics, in reference to #1, ALL agreed the #1 film was good, it does give substance to the fact that there is merit to their concensus. Again, I totally respect your opinions that you might not like the list (I don't entirely like it myself either, as I stated above (just in reference to the #1 film) I don't agree with some of them) but I would draw to question what merits that it is horrible... other than that you didn't get Don Bluth. Besides which, I think several films did the same sort of story better (like Monsters Inc., as in the sort of changes and growth the pivotal characters go through, like Charlie in All Dogs Go to Heaven). Don Bluth movies are incredibly depressing and didn't have a whole lot going for them (especially when I take my nostalgia blinders off). The ONLY Don Bluth film that should have made the list was secret of NIMH, and if you had read "how it works" you would realize the only reason it wasn't listed is because there were not enough reviews posted by critics.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/secret_of_nimh/
guess you wouldn't trust that either?
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/1600-nostalgia-critic-top-11-saddest-moments
Posted that before, think its worth posting again.
I agree them missing American Tale and Nimh was an oversight. A lot of Disney domination/nostalgia on that list...though, it's tough to blame them for it.
I don't know of any X-men animated movies, but does anyone remember that 90's X-men cartoon? Man did that ever have some catchy theme music, I still remember it. And the best voice for Apocalypse evar.
Also, I like that Superman exists, even if I don't like his character as much as Batman et al. I think it's important to have a symbol like him, the big boyscout providing both an "aspiring compass" for ideals and a kind of "high end" for measuring super-powers.
But let's not turn this into an animated tv or superheroes thread! "Animated movies" is plenty general as it is! :P
Back on topic...I second Mask of the Phantasm as made of win. I thought Batman Beyond's Return of the Joker was also pretty good, but not quite as.
I agree them missing American Tale and Nimh was an oversight. A lot of Disney domination/nostalgia on that list...though, it's tough to blame them for it.
NIMH should have. Probably the only Don Bluth film I would pick. He usually gets praised for his style of animation more than his directing. I like how the Nostalgia Critic said that (and I paraphrase) his philosophy was that children can handle anything if you attach a happy ending... I still think his films could turn the tragedy down a notch.
Also, Chicken Run really isn't that bad of a film. Its actually a pretty clever parody of the film starring Stephen McQueen, The Great Escape.
I don't know of any X-men animated movies, but does anyone remember that 90's X-men cartoon?
I loved Batman, but to me, it was second to X-Men.
I second that.
You didn't read "how it works", did you? And while I respect your opinion that Bluth was a fairly good director, saying "This list is horrible because I don't like it." (paraphrased) is a bit silly.
I disagree, I don't think it was silly at all. Saying the list is horrible is expressing an opinion, which is something we are all entitled to. Just because someone says, "This is the greatest list ever!" doesn't make it so; and just because someone else says "I think this list is horrible!" doesn't make it so; it is just simply a matter of opinion. I read it. I understand how it works. It is a great little resource to look at and debate, as we are doing. But I too think it is a horrible list, well at least the top 10 part of it. ;)
BTW, thanks for posting it so we can have this awesome discussion.
As far as the stuff about Bluth, I could take him or leave him. Nimh was good, not great, but I agree his stories are just a BIT too dark. Then again, a lot of those early Disney films are pretty dark too. It seems to me as a corporation they seem to have some fascination with the whole 'orphan' thing.
Oh yeah, animated X-Men are silky goodness.
...stuff...
Well spoken. I usually get more up in arms to statements like 'this sucks' and 'this is terrible' rather than 'I disagree and this is why', but that might just be me being stuffy. What you brought up is reasonable and well spoken.
Then again, a lot of those early Disney films are pretty dark too.
Couldn't agree more, lol. Bluth still takes the cake, though.
Well spoken. I usually get more up in arms to statements like 'this sucks' and 'this is terrible' rather than 'I disagree and this is why', but that might just be me being stuffy. What you brought up is reasonable and well spoken.
Couldn't agree more, lol. Bluth still takes the cake, though.
Thanks for the complements, that was nice, and not the normal knee jerk reaction.
You are a gentleman and a scholar. 
Bluth takes the cake alright, he takes it right away from the kids, throws it on the ground, stomps all over it, laughs in the kids faces and then walks away, only to return with a cupcake, saying "that should make it all better."
I just recently watched Nimh again after seeing it as a youth and I can't believe I wasn't scarred; same with Watership Down. I mean the scarred thing, I know Bluth didn't direct it. :P
Beauty and the Beast (if you didn't cry at the ending, then you have no heart.)
[i]Heavy Metal[i] (the artwork was wonderful)
[i]Ice Age
Fantasia[i] (great mix of animation and classical music. Rumor has it, it was a test film for Sleeping Beauty)
[i]Shrek
Who Framed Roger Rabbit[i] (best mix of live-action and animation to date)
Sleeping Beauty
The Lion King
Just about anything from Disney-Pixar, but especially The Incredibles
The Secret of NIMH
An American Tale
All Dogs Go To Heaven
Enchanted
Fritz The Cat
I must admit that I've enjoyed just about every animated film that Disney has put out. Is Heavy Metal on DVD? I haven't seen it since the early 80's.
Bluth takes the cake alright, he takes it right away from the kids, throws it on the ground, stomps all over it, laughs in the kids faces and then walks away, only to return with a cupcake, saying "that should make it all better."
I literally spit up my soda, I couldn't have phrased that better. Still chuckling when I reread it :P
*Is a much bigger Supes fan than Bats*
I'm with you on this one. As a matter of fact I like Superman for all the reasons that a lot of people hate him for. The boyscout, Amercain pie greatness. Also Supes and Bat are a lot more alike than most people would consider. (I think people think Batman is darker cause he wears black and operates at night).
I'm a big Advent Children fan, its the best HD animation ever. All the characters looked great too. Can't really say anything bad about it, expect that the english dub was horrible.
I can't wait until the extended version comes out and yes I'll be only watching it in sub.
I couldn't even finish watching it. I tried three times and never get more than half-way through. No amount of hyper-detailed CGI can compensate for an brain-achingly terrible story. You think they'd have learned that from The Spirits Within.
I literally spit up my soda, I couldn't have phrased that better. Still chuckling when I reread it :P
Glad you laughed. :D
I have to second the Heavy Metal nomination.
Animation was good, story was good, BUT the MUSIC... best soundtrack ever. I wish I could have seen it in the theater, just a bit before my time.
I'm with you on this one. As a matter of fact I like Superman for all the reasons that a lot of people hate him for. The boyscout, Amercain pie greatness. Also Supes and Bat are a lot more alike than most people would consider. (I think people think Batman is darker cause he wears black and operates at night).
The one main thing I like about Supes, is that he has all this power, and unlike most, eveb Batman said he would do it if he had Supes power, is that he's constantly holding back and doesn't let his powers define him. When it comes down to it Supes is just a regular guy from the country. Even against guys who deserve Supes going all out on him, he doesn't and when he does, it is as Wonder Woman said it "The most terrifying thing she's ever saw." (I'm referring to the "For the Man Who Has Everything" storyline by Alan Moore where Mongul did something to Supes that really crossed the line) .
All so, the time where Supes just wrecked Batman when he was under Mind Control was a mahor moment, not even Kryptonite stopped him.
The one main thing I like about Supes, is that he has all this power, and unlike most, eveb Batman said he would do it if he had Supes power, is that he's constantly holding back and doesn't let his powers define him. When it comes down to it Supes is just a regular guy from the country. Even against guys who deserve Supes going all out on him, he doesn't and when he does, it is as Wonder Woman said it "The most terrifying thing she's ever saw." (I'm referring to the "For the Man Who Has Everything" storyline by Alan Moore where Mongul did something to Supes that really crossed the line) .
All so, the time where Supes just wrecked Batman when he was under Mind Control was a mahor moment, not even Kryptonite stopped him.
Anytime Batman gets beat makes me smile. :P (Also do you know where I could find the "For the Man Who Has Everything" in some form. I love the JLU episode they made of it and I want to read the actual story?)
I love the story where Green Arrow is brought back to life, meets up with Batman, and WHAM! Right Hook city. All so, the infamous Green Lantern moment is awesome.
Well if you don't mind being a pirate...........
I love the story where Green Arrow is brought back to life, meets up with Batman, and WHAM! Right Hook city. All so, the infamous Green Lantern moment is awesome.
Can't be a pirate got to maintain a high moral ground.
Thats in Quiver right, that one is double sweet cause not only does Batman get punched he almost is eaten by Etrigan and is saved by Green Arrow.