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Fey In Disney Movies?

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#1
stompie5
Apr 21, 2009 16:51:15 Friday night I watched the old Disney cartoons, Pinnocio and Peter Pan (good movies). While I was watching them, I couldn't help but think, "these characters act exactly how I think Fey would act."

In Pinnocio, the fairy who gives Pinoccio life represented a chaotic good Fey perfectly. The Fairy was kind enough to grant Pinnocio's father's wish, and bring him to life. She even promised to make him a real boy, if Pinnocio could be good. Now I think the real Fey feeling came in as I realized, this Fairy just told Pinnocio to be good without giving him any idea of what the difference between good and evil are. She just came down from the sky, brought Pinnocio to life, made a deal with him, then left. It was nice of the Fairy, but also somewhat cruel. I could imagine her only doing it, because she thought it would be entertaining to see if Pinnocio could figure out the difference between right and wrong. A game for the Fairy and her friends. Very Fey-like if you ask me. Now I know that's not what the movie intended, but since I'm such a nerd, that's what I was thinking during the movie.

Now in Peter Pan, Tinker Bell was what really got my nerd juices flowing. First, she was a lot hotter than I remember. Second, she seemed to act how an unaligned Fey would act (to me at least). Tinker Bell was jealous and cruel, but not evil. What got me to start thinking, "Fey," was how she tried to get the lost boys to shoot Wendy down, which would've killed her. When Peter Pan yelled at her for it, Tinker Bell just played it calm and cool like the atempt on Wendy's life was nothing. What a *****. Another thing was the way the Mermaids wanted to drown Wendy, because they were jealous of her and then just acted like nothing was wrong with it. Poor Wendy.

Anyways, I'm out of time to write here, but what do you think?
#2
Reg06
Apr 21, 2009 18:52:59 I haven't seen Pinnocio but I do agree about Peter Pan. It was a fairly spot on depiction of the capricious nature of the Fey (I like it about as much as the aggresively dark and mature fey that Del Toro and Gaiman do).
#3
RPJesus
Apr 21, 2009 19:06:49 Anybody who dislikes Tink has obviously never played kingdom hearts. Regen + Auto-life = <3 :D.
#4
stompie5
Apr 22, 2009 12:06:16 I'm back at work now, so I will continute talking about the movie, Peter Pan, or more specificly, Tinker Bell. Another Fey moment of hers was to betray all her friends, just to get rid of Wendy. She told Captain Hook where Peter's secret lair was, so Hook could get take Wendy away. Now of course Tinker Bell still has affections for Peter though, so she made Hook promise that he wouldn't lay a hand ( or hook) on Peter, so she isn't evil (on DnD terms). Of course, Hook being evil, tried to blow up Peter with a bomb, but Tinker Bell saved him. I would say Tinker Bell makes a fine example of an unaligned, selfish fey, who isn't afraid to go overboard with pranks.

Now, Peter himself is rather feyish. I would say he is chaotic good. He has pointed ears, so I don't even know if he is human. Anyways, Peter is very self centered, carefree, and random. He would be talking and paying attention to Wendy, when suddenly he would ignore her and do something else. Sometimes this would happen as soon as he finished saying something to her. It seems Wender had a rather rough time in Never Land. That could be used as an example of a whimsy fey.

Some could argue that Peter is evil, since he convinces boys to come to Never Land and forget about their past lives; living a new life of fun with Peter. Kinda disturbing if you ask me. In fact its rather cruel. This doesn't make Peter evil though, because of his intention. Hes not actually hurting the lost boys in any physcial way, and they actually look up to Peter. Peter takes the boys with him, because he is friends with the boys and thinks they are better off in Never Land. This can be an example of a good fey, who fights evil, but thinks his friends should come with him to the Fey Wild.

I have always been fascinated, but also confused, with fey. I found it hard to come up with ideas on how to make them good and cruel at the same time, but these movies really helped me get a grip on fey personalities. Can anyone think of other Fey-like characters?
#5
stompie5
Apr 22, 2009 12:09:13
I haven't seen Pinnocio but I do agree about Peter Pan. It was a fairly spot on depiction of the capricious nature of the Fey (I like it about as much as the aggresively dark and mature fey that Del Toro and Gaiman do).

How does Gaiman portray fey?
#6
Reg06
Apr 22, 2009 12:30:50 Capricious, self-centered, arrogant, selfish.
#7
stompie5
Apr 22, 2009 12:39:38 Nice. Selfish seems to be a trait all fey have.

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#1 stompie5 Apr 21, 2009 16:51:15	Friday night I watched the old Disney cartoons, Pinnocio and Peter Pan (good movies). While I was watching them, I couldn't help but think, "these characters act exactly how I think Fey would act." In Pinnocio, the fairy who gives Pinoccio life represented a chaotic good Fey perfectly. The Fairy was kind enough to grant Pinnocio's father's wish, and bring him to life. She even promised to make him a real boy, if Pinnocio could be good. Now I think the real Fey feeling came in as I realized, this Fairy just told Pinnocio to be good without giving him any idea of what the difference between good and evil are. She just came down from the sky, brought Pinnocio to life, made a deal with him, then left. It was nice of the Fairy, but also somewhat cruel. I could imagine her only doing it, because she thought it would be entertaining to see if Pinnocio could figure out the difference between right and wrong. A game for the Fairy and her friends. Very Fey-like if you ask me. Now I know that's not what the movie intended, but since I'm such a nerd, that's what I was thinking during the movie. Now in Peter Pan, Tinker Bell was what really got my nerd juices flowing. First, she was a lot hotter than I remember. Second, she seemed to act how an unaligned Fey would act (to me at least). Tinker Bell was jealous and cruel, but not evil. What got me to start thinking, "Fey," was how she tried to get the lost boys to shoot Wendy down, which would've killed her. When Peter Pan yelled at her for it, Tinker Bell just played it calm and cool like the atempt on Wendy's life was nothing. What a *****. Another thing was the way the Mermaids wanted to drown Wendy, because they were jealous of her and then just acted like nothing was wrong with it. Poor Wendy. Anyways, I'm out of time to write here, but what do you think?
#2 Reg06 Apr 21, 2009 18:52:59	I haven't seen Pinnocio but I do agree about Peter Pan. It was a fairly spot on depiction of the capricious nature of the Fey (I like it about as much as the aggresively dark and mature fey that Del Toro and Gaiman do).
#3 RPJesus Apr 21, 2009 19:06:49	Anybody who dislikes Tink has obviously never played kingdom hearts. Regen + Auto-life = <3 :D.
#4 stompie5 Apr 22, 2009 12:06:16	I'm back at work now, so I will continute talking about the movie, Peter Pan, or more specificly, Tinker Bell. Another Fey moment of hers was to betray all her friends, just to get rid of Wendy. She told Captain Hook where Peter's secret lair was, so Hook could get take Wendy away. Now of course Tinker Bell still has affections for Peter though, so she made Hook promise that he wouldn't lay a hand ( or hook) on Peter, so she isn't evil (on DnD terms). Of course, Hook being evil, tried to blow up Peter with a bomb, but Tinker Bell saved him. I would say Tinker Bell makes a fine example of an unaligned, selfish fey, who isn't afraid to go overboard with pranks. Now, Peter himself is rather feyish. I would say he is chaotic good. He has pointed ears, so I don't even know if he is human. Anyways, Peter is very self centered, carefree, and random. He would be talking and paying attention to Wendy, when suddenly he would ignore her and do something else. Sometimes this would happen as soon as he finished saying something to her. It seems Wender had a rather rough time in Never Land. That could be used as an example of a whimsy fey. Some could argue that Peter is evil, since he convinces boys to come to Never Land and forget about their past lives; living a new life of fun with Peter. Kinda disturbing if you ask me. In fact its rather cruel. This doesn't make Peter evil though, because of his intention. Hes not actually hurting the lost boys in any physcial way, and they actually look up to Peter. Peter takes the boys with him, because he is friends with the boys and thinks they are better off in Never Land. This can be an example of a good fey, who fights evil, but thinks his friends should come with him to the Fey Wild. I have always been fascinated, but also confused, with fey. I found it hard to come up with ideas on how to make them good and cruel at the same time, but these movies really helped me get a grip on fey personalities. Can anyone think of other Fey-like characters?
#5 stompie5 Apr 22, 2009 12:09:13	I haven't seen Pinnocio but I do agree about Peter Pan. It was a fairly spot on depiction of the capricious nature of the Fey (I like it about as much as the aggresively dark and mature fey that Del Toro and Gaiman do). How does Gaiman portray fey?
#6 Reg06 Apr 22, 2009 12:30:50	Capricious, self-centered, arrogant, selfish.
#7 stompie5 Apr 22, 2009 12:39:38	Nice. Selfish seems to be a trait all fey have.