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#1 dirtyfrank Sep 09, 2011 21:39:20	This is a fun little game that anybody here on these boards can play, but is mainly made because many of us regulars here on the Off Topic Tavern love the sport of Football. Rules: Rules Your score is calculated as Wins to Losses. Or basically the more wins you have the better you're doing and the person with the most wins is the one leading this friendly competition. No point spreads will factor into this game of ours. It is simply Wins to Losses. If you miss or forget to list picks for the week you'll receive a loss for each game played that week. Basically you'd have effectively guessed wrong for each game by default. Same goes for if you want to jump into the game mid season. You will receive a loss for every game played. (total games played isn't too important since it is wins that calculate out the leaders of this competition, but I like to keep a nice equal total for everyone's score. Picks must be sent in before the games have started. As of right now the only game exempt will be the first game of the season (saints vs packers) of which if you can link me to a post of you supporting either team before their game started it will count for your pick for that team. This is all due to us being a bit slow with setting this thingy up. All picks must be posted here for public record. This way there can be no claims of cheating with private submissions and whatnot. Basically the person receiving the submissions helping a brotha' out. I will try and take a photo of all picks before games are started so as to make sure nobody cheats since these boards do not seem to have a notification of when a post was edited or any notice of editing period. 57224698 wrote:
#2 draco1119 Sep 09, 2011 21:47:26	Week 1 NO vs GB* Uh... I totally picked Green Bay, but tha intrawebz ate my posts...  PIT CHI CLE HOU JAC KC PHI DET CAR MIN SF NYG DAL NE DEN My picks.  And I hate the fact that I had to NOT choose Oakland.  *sigh* EDIT: As of 8:55am Central Time Saturday, I have changed my pick from the Rams to the Eagles.  That is all.
#3 dirtyfrank Sep 09, 2011 23:20:16	GB PIT ATL CLE HOU TEN KC PHI TB ARI SD SF NYG NYJ NE DEN These shall be my picks for this weekend.
#4 jetshield Sep 10, 2011 0:18:50	Week 1 NO vs GB PIT vs BAL ATL vs CHI CIN vs CLE IND vs HOU TEN vs JAC BUF vs KC PHI vs STL DET vs TB CAR vs ARI MIN vs SD SEA vs SF NYG vs WAS DAL vs NYJ NE vs MIA OAK vs DEN
#5 Robin_Hoodlum Sep 10, 2011 8:30:45	Pit Atl Cin Ind Ten KC STL TB Arz Min SF Was Dal NE Den ... This reminds me, I gotta go draft for fantasy!!
#6 KillerGM Sep 10, 2011 8:31:39	Week 1 NO vs GB* PIT vs BAL ATL vs CHI CIN vs CLE IND vs HOU TEN vs JAC BUF vs KC PHI vs STL DET vs TB CAR vs ARI MIN vs SD SEA vs SF NYG vs WAS DAL vs NYJ NE vs MIA OAK vs DEN
#7 grehnhewe Sep 10, 2011 8:46:49	These be my picks: Week 1 NO vs GB*   PIT ATL CIN HOU TEN KC PHI TB ARI SD SF NYG NYJ NE DEN (Good show setting this up df!)
#8 Robin_Hoodlum Sep 10, 2011 8:50:34	What's with all the Baltimore picks?! Pittsburgh WILL win, let there be no doubt! Edit: After paying more attention, I discovered more people are voting for the 'Burgh... It's gonna be a good game! We don't like B-more, and B-more don't like us. And I wouldn't want it any other way.
#9 draco1119 Sep 10, 2011 8:53:28	See edit for post #2, please.
#10 bone_naga Sep 10, 2011 11:29:02	To be honest GB is the only one I actually care about, but here it goes. NO vs GB* - GB of course, that's my team, I even have their flag flying in front of my house PIT vs BAL - BAL ATL vs CHI - ATL CIN vs CLE - CIN IND vs HOU - HOU TEN vs JAC - TEN BUF vs KC - KC PHI vs STL - PHI DET vs TB - DET CAR vs ARI - ARI MIND vs SD - MIN SEA vs SF - SF NYG vs WAS - NYG DAL vs NYJ - NYJ NE vs MIA - NE OAK vs DEN - DEN
#11 Robin_Hoodlum Sep 10, 2011 11:30:08	PIT vs BAL - BAL
#12 grehnhewe Sep 10, 2011 12:57:58	Steelers are getting more love than SD.  Everyone should know how well the Chargers start out their seasons. Edit: now up to 3 out of 9!
#13 Cpt_Micha Sep 10, 2011 13:00:31	PIT vs BALThis is a tough call.  On the principle that I'm supposed to hate Modell more than the Steelers.  Steelers. ATL vs CHI Bears look good.  But I'm an NFC South man. Falcons CIN vs CLE   Cincincatti IND vs HOU  Houstan TEN vs JAC  Ten BUF vs KC  Buffalo. PHI vs STL  Eagles DET vs TB   Tampa Bay. CAR vs ARI  Go go Cardiac Cats. MIND vs SD SD all the way. SEA vs SF  Seahawks NYG vs WAS   Giants. DAL vs NYJ  Dallas NE vs MIA  Miami has been getting better every year. MIA OAK vs DEN   Denver.
#14 dirtyfrank Sep 10, 2011 14:46:13	community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...! Post 12? May count, may not. Not really sure. Sorry, your post was 2 hours after the game start. It will not count.
#15 pigknight Sep 10, 2011 20:12:12	*trotts in* *puts down soap box* *climbs on soap box* I'm pig-titioning against this thread! How many of my kinsmen have died for your amusement?! This horror shall be put to an end now!
#16 jetshield Sep 10, 2011 20:21:43	For football? None. Pig bladders haven't been used to make footballs since the late 1800s. edit: My apologies to everyone. I thought I was in the "Are you ready for some football" thread.
#17 dirtyfrank Sep 11, 2011 11:18:56	OKie Dokie I've recorded everyone's picks with snapshots. I'd like to ask for nobody to make changes to their picks at this point, but not like it matters since I'll be going off of the screen shots when I do the scoring. Good Luck to everyone.
#18 draco1119 Sep 11, 2011 12:27:13	OKie Dokie I've recorded everyone's picks with snapshots. I'd like to ask for nobody to make changes to their picks at this point, but not like it matters since I'll be going off of the screen shots when I do the scoring. Good Luck to everyone. JUst to make sure: You did get a screenshot of my edited post, not the original, correct?  Only change I made was to have Philly over the Rams.
#19 dirtyfrank Sep 11, 2011 13:03:43	OKie Dokie I've recorded everyone's picks with snapshots. I'd like to ask for nobody to make changes to their picks at this point, but not like it matters since I'll be going off of the screen shots when I do the scoring. Good Luck to everyone. JUst to make sure: You did get a screenshot of my edited post, not the original, correct?  Only change I made was to have Philly over the Rams. yes the screen shot was from after you edited your pick the other day. I even have the edit note in the screenshot.
#20 zombie_babies Sep 12, 2011 8:23:49	Dammit.  Sucks I missed the first week!  I'll still play, though.  To be honest, I sucked pretty hard with the picks I would have made anyway.  When's week 2 gonna be posted? EDIT: Mon, Sept 12: New England is my pick. EDIT2: Oakland is my other pick for the Mon night games (if these count).
#21 dirtyfrank Sep 12, 2011 8:26:33	Either on Monday nights or Tuesday mornings I'll tally up the points and then post the games for the next week. I just pulled an all-niter getting some homework done so don't expect any of that to be done until Tuesday mornings since I'll likely be falling asleep once I get home from school.
#22 zombie_babies Sep 12, 2011 8:29:23	Cool.  Does my edited pick count or was that too late, too?
#23 dirtyfrank Sep 12, 2011 8:45:35	Cool.  Does my edited pick count or was that too late, too? That pick is before the Monday game (and you've not made any picks yet) so I'll say it's good. Also there are two games tonight. Um also did you back either green bay or new Orleans before that game Thursday? If yes and you can link to it I will count that since I've already states such up above. I'm trying to think of when an official lock on picks should be. I'm thinking sunday morning or saturday night with the exception being thursday morning for thursday games. I'm thinking of doing that for the future. This way most picks don't need to be made until friday or saturday while only a pick or whatnot needs to be rushed in any sense.
#24 draco1119 Sep 12, 2011 9:08:40	Cool.  Does my edited pick count or was that too late, too? That pick is before the Monday game (and you've not made any picks yet) so I'll say it's good. Also there are two games tonight. Um also did you back either green bay or new Orleans before that game Thursday? If yes and you can link to it I will count that since I've already states such up above. I'll vouch for him having backed Green Bay before the game.  Should be early in the "Are you ready for some football" thread and/or in the "Benefits of Playing for UM" thread in the HoT. Here's one from the morning of 9/8 (Thursday) And here's another from the afternoon of 9/7 (Wednesday)
#25 zombie_babies Sep 12, 2011 9:47:41	That pick is before the Monday game (and you've not made any picks yet) so I'll say it's good. Also there are two games tonight. Um also did you back either green bay or new Orleans before that game Thursday? If yes and you can link to it I will count that since I've already states such up above. I'm trying to think of when an official lock on picks should be. I'm thinking sunday morning or saturday night with the exception being thursday morning for thursday games. I'm thinking of doing that for the future. This way most picks don't need to be made until friday or saturday while only a pick or whatnot needs to be rushed in any sense. First, I edited again adding my pick for the other game (Oakland).  Sorry, I probably shoulda just made a new post.  Second, thanks to draco for finding that stuff!  I pretty much always pick GB because they're my NFC team.  And my favorite team overall, really.  I've had their back since the Majkowski era, too, so I ain't no Favre youknowwhathugger or a frontrunner either!  Those locks sound like they'd work fine.  Yep.
#26 jetshield Sep 12, 2011 14:35:47	Week 2 games SUN, SEP 18 Kansas City @ Detroit Oakland @ Buffalo Tampa Bay @ Minnesota Chicago @ New Orleans Baltimore @ Tennessee Cleveland @ Indianapolis Jacksonville @ NY Jets Seattle @ Pittsburgh Arizona @ Washington Green Bay @ Carolina Dallas @ San Francisco San Diego @ New England Houston @ Miami Cincinnati @ Denver Philadelphia @ Atlanta MON, SEP 19 St. Louis @ NY Giants Edited to give game days. I can add start times too, if anyone wants.
#27 zombie_babies Sep 12, 2011 15:18:14	ZB's week 2 winners: Detroit Oakland Tampa Bay New Orleans Baltimore Cleveland  NY Jets Pittsburgh Washington Green Bay Dallas New England Houston Denver Philadelphia NY Giants
#28 bone_naga Sep 12, 2011 15:33:11	Detroit Oakland Minnesota New Orleans Baltimore Cleveland NY Jets Pittsburgh Arizona Green Bay San Francisco New England Houston Denver Philadelphia NY Giants
#29 draco1119 Sep 12, 2011 15:35:41	Week 2 games Kansas City @ Detroit DET Oakland @ Buffalo OAK Tampa Bay @ Minnesota MIN Chicago @ New Orleans CHI Baltimore @ Tennessee BLT :-p Cleveland @ Indianapolis CLE Jacksonville @ NY Jets JAC Seattle @ Pittsburgh PIT Arizona @ Washington ARI Green Bay @ Carolina GB Dallas @ San Francisco SF San Diego @ New England NE Houston @ Miami HOU Cincinnati @ Denver DEN Philadelphia @ Atlanta PHI St. Louis @ NY Giants NYG Done Edited pick for Browns/Colts
#30 jetshield Sep 12, 2011 15:46:51	Nope. There won't be a Thursday game until week 10. St. Louis @ NY Giants is the week 2 Monday night game.
#31 dirtyfrank Sep 12, 2011 17:03:15	That pick is before the Monday game (and you've not made any picks yet) so I'll say it's good. Also there are two games tonight. Um also did you back either green bay or new Orleans before that game Thursday? If yes and you can link to it I will count that since I've already states such up above. I'm trying to think of when an official lock on picks should be. I'm thinking sunday morning or saturday night with the exception being thursday morning for thursday games. I'm thinking of doing that for the future. This way most picks don't need to be made until friday or saturday while only a pick or whatnot needs to be rushed in any sense. First, I edited again adding my pick for the other game (Oakland).  Sorry, I probably shoulda just made a new post.  Second, thanks to draco for finding that stuff!  I pretty much always pick GB because they're my NFC team.  And my favorite team overall, really.  I've had their back since the Majkowski era, too, so I ain't no Favre youknowwhathugger or a frontrunner either!  Those locks sound like they'd work fine.  Yep. Since I'm screen shotting all picks once they're finalized and whatnot I find it better if they're all in once place. That way I only need 1 pic file and no editing. Thanks for posting the next week games. It's probably good to give everyone an extra day to think about it.
#32 KillerGM Sep 13, 2011 11:42:59	SUN, SEP 18 Kansas City @ Detroit Oakland @ Buffalo Tampa Bay @ Minnesota Chicago @ New Orleans Baltimore @ Tennessee Cleveland @ Indianapolis Jacksonville @ NY Jets Seattle @ Pittsburgh Arizona @ Washington Green Bay @ Carolina Dallas @ San Francisco San Diego @ New England Houston @ Miami Cincinnati @ Denver Philadelphia @ Atlanta MON, SEP 19 St. Louis @ NY Giants Hey, df, maybe you can do an edit in the OP with the current scores of people playing?  Something to keep track of what's been going on, who's in the lead, etc. EDIT: Also, if I ever miss a week, I will always vote for the Eagles > 49ers > Vikings > Raiders, in that preference (if they play each other, otherwise, vote for them in any of their games).
#33 dirtyfrank Sep 13, 2011 13:00:44	Week 1 Results KillerGM: 12 - 4 bone_naga: 9 - 7 Jetshield: 9 - 7 dirtyfrank: 8 - 8 grehnhewe: 8 - 8 Tunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8 draco1119: 7 - 9 Cpt_Micha: 5 - 11 Robin_Hoodlum: 5 - 11 Zombie_Babies*: 3 - 13 TD: you need to clearify one of your picks for me since you gave a pick that wasn't a team name or city/state. Everyone please try and list only one of those two things with picks. If it isn't obvious to me in the future as to who you picked I'll just mark it off as a loss. I'll update the weekly scores with a post. I'll also put the weekly scores in the OP along with season totals. _________________ * ZB wanted his name asterisked so that he doesn't look like the browns. Read thread for further info on his score.
#34 zombie_babies Sep 13, 2011 13:03:30	Dood, asteriks my name or somethin'!  That 3-13 makes me look like the Browns!
#35 jetshield Sep 13, 2011 13:15:03	you gave a pick that wasn't a team name or city/state I'm guessing you're referring to his "dogs" pick. That was clearly a pick for Cleveland. The Dawg Pound is the name of the bleacher section behind the east end zone in Cleveland Browns Stadium.
#36 dirtyfrank Sep 13, 2011 13:20:30	you gave a pick that wasn't a team name or city/state I'm guessing you're referring to his "dogs" pick. That was clearly a pick for Cleveland. The Dawg Pound is the name of the bleacher section behind the east end zone in Cleveland Browns Stadium. OK thanks and that is something I did not know.
#37 draco1119 Sep 13, 2011 14:13:29	you gave a pick that wasn't a team name or city/state I'm guessing you're referring to his "dogs" pick. That was clearly a pick for Cleveland. The Dawg Pound is the name of the bleacher section behind the east end zone in Cleveland Browns Stadium. Hmm... Does that mean that I can express a pick for my beloved Raiders by referencing "that festering, seething, Black Hole of inhumanity"?
#38 jetshield Sep 13, 2011 15:00:19	You could, but DF has stated that you don't get points if he doesn't know who you meant. Up to you though.
#39 grehnhewe Sep 13, 2011 19:15:27	My picks! Week 2 games SUN, SEP 18 Detroit Oakland  Minnesota  New Orleans Baltimore Cleveland NY Jets Pittsburgh Arizona Green Bay San Francisco San Diego Miami Cincinnati Philadelphia MON, SEP 19 NY Giants
#40 dirtyfrank Sep 13, 2011 20:13:29	Kansas City @ Detroit Oakland @ Buffalo Tampa Bay @ Minnesota Chicago @ New Orleans Baltimore @ Tennessee Cleveland @ Indianapolis Jacksonville @ NY Jets Seattle @ Pittsburgh Arizona @ Washington Green Bay @ Carolina Dallas @ San Francisco San Diego @ New England Houston @ Miami Cincinnati @ Denver Philadelphia @ Atlanta St. Louis @ NY Giants
#41 Cpt_Micha Sep 15, 2011 7:27:46	KC vs Detroit.  This is a tough one I'm going to lean on Detroit for this one. Oakland vs Buffalo.  It's not time for Buffalo to choke yet (That's week 4) Buffalo. Tampa vs Minnesota.  Vikings, easily. Tampa's a joke :-p Chicago vs New Orleans. Tough game, Chicago's got some great D and special teams. Probably the best of the season so far imo. I'm going to give it to the Saints though in a last minute surprise shift from Brees and Co. Baltimore vs Tenn.   Ravens.   Cleveland vs Indy. Browns. Jacks vs Jets.  Jets. Seahawks vs Steelers. Seahawks Arizona vs Washington.  After week 1 and seeing that high powered offense with good quick defense. Arizona. Green Bay vs Carolina. Screw it, I'm going for the upset.  Carolina. Dallas vs San Fran.  If Romo doesn't Choke again.... Dallas Chargers vs NE.   Chargers. They don't choke till the post season :-p Houston vs Miami.   Forget the Fish. Houston. Cinci vs Denver Broncos all the way. Dream Team vs Falcons.  The Falcons seemed kind of slow vs Chicago. The defense is going to spend too much time on the field.  Philly. Rams v Giants.  Damn Rams all the way.
#42 jetshield Sep 17, 2011 14:46:44	Hey! I almost forgot to post my picks. Week 2 games SUN, SEP 18 Kansas City @ Detroit Oakland @ Buffalo Tampa Bay @ Minnesota Chicago @ New Orleans Baltimore @ Tennessee Cleveland @ Indianapolis Jacksonville @ NY Jets Seattle @ Pittsburgh Arizona @ Washington Green Bay @ Carolina Dallas @ San Francisco San Diego @ New England Houston @ Miami Cincinnati @ Denver Philadelphia @ Atlanta MON, SEP 19 St. Louis @ NY Giants
#43 dirtyfrank Sep 18, 2011 11:07:28	Okies got snapshots of everyone's picks so all of your picks are finalized. I see everyone's picks except for RH's.
#44 draco1119 Sep 18, 2011 11:11:18	I see everyone's picks except for RH's. He hasn't been around for a few days.  Probably planned on doing it, but was... previously indisposed.
#45 dirtyfrank Sep 20, 2011 1:21:46	Week 2 Results Jetshield: 13 - 3 Zombie_Babies: 13 - 3 dirtyfrank: 11 - 5 bone_naga: 10 - 6 Tunder_Dragonbane: 9 - 7 Cpt_Micha: 8 - 8 draco1119: 8 - 8 grehnhewe: 7 - 9 KillerGM: 3 - 13 Robin_Hoodlum: 0 - 16 Sorry but the real world doesn't stop if ya get banned. If you don't have your picks posted before a ban or aren't unbanned in time to post them then all I can say is that you're SOL son. Season Results Jetshield: 22 - 10 bone_naga: 19 - 13 dirtyfrank: 19 - 13 Tunder_Dragonbane: 17 - 15 Zombie_Babies: 16 - 16 KillerGM: 15 - 17 grehnhewe: 15 - 17 draco1119: 15 - 17 Cpt_Micha: 13 - 19 Robin_Hoodlum: 5 - 27 OP has been updated. Week 3 should be posted shortly.
#46 dirtyfrank Sep 20, 2011 1:29:16	Houston at New Orleans NY Giants at Philadelphia Jacksonville at Carolina New England at Buffalo Miami at Cleveland San Francisco at Cincinnati Denver at Tennessee Detroit at Minnesota Baltimore at St. Louis NY Jets at Oakland Kansas City at San Diego Arizona at Seattle Atlanta at Tampa Bay Green Bay at Chicago Pittsburgh at Indianapolis Washington at Dallas Last game on list is the monday night game.
#47 Cpt_Micha Sep 20, 2011 6:34:14	Houston at New Orleans NY Giants at Philadelphia Jacksonville at Carolina New England at Buffalo Miami at Cleveland San Francisco at Cincinnati Denver at Tennessee Detroit at Minnesota Baltimore at St. Louis NY Jets at Oakland Kansas City at San Diego Arizona at Seattle Atlanta at Tampa Bay Green Bay at Chicago Pittsburgh at Indianapolis Washington at Dallas Last game on list is the monday night game. I didn't get to see -any- of the games last weekend so I'm going to have to do this the hard way and compare statistics that being said. Pics will happen in this posts' edit shortly. Houstan vs Saints. Saints. I like houstan so far this year but Saints they ain't. Giants vs Phily. I'm going to go with Philly on this one. The Dream Team is going to put the giants away. Jags vs Cats. Honestly, do you need me to answer this one? Seriously? Not only are they my home team, but frankly they can keep up with the likes of GreenBay. I'm looking for the Cats first win of the season, and not only that it's going to be a Roflstomp. Patriots vs Bills. It's not week 4 but it's close enough. The Pats look like they are out to prove themselves. I'm expecting them to be accused of "running up the score'' this weekend. Bye bills. Time to Choke. Miami at Cleveland. This is going to be one of those beautiful trainwrecks you can't look away from. As bad as the Fish are, are the Brownstains worse? On home territory? Ugh.... either way I feel like a loser. Browns. San Fran vs Cinci.   Oh god... you bastards. Another fail off.  Cinci? Broncos vs Titans.  Titans. They really have something special there. Lions vs Vikings.  Lions are going to eat the vikings for breakfast. (You have no idea how cool it feels to type that!) Ravens vs Damn Rams. Honestly the Ravens are a better team than the Damn Rams will ever be.  Ravens. Jets vs Raiders, I'm going to go Jets on this one. The Raiders look good but I suspect that has more to do with who they played. KC vs Chargers.   Chargers. Cardinals vs Seahawks.  Cardinals All The Way. Seahawks won't even get to touch the ball. Atlanta vs TB... oh god. I'm going to go Falcons on this one. Greenbay vs Chicago.  Last week round two.... Greenbay is going to get the win over the bears handedly. Steelers vs Indy... Steelers will face roll Indy. They still feel like they have something to prove after week 1. Skins vs Cowboys. Chokin Romo vs Redskins? really? Really??? Redskins, and they should do it fairly comfortably.
#48 draco1119 Sep 20, 2011 8:03:14	Houston at New Orleans NY Giants at Philadelphia Jacksonville at Carolina New England at Buffalo Miami at Cleveland San Francisco at Cincinnati Denver at Tennessee Detroit at Minnesota  Adrian Peterson against the One Man Army Baltimore at St. Louis NY Jets at Oakland  Maybe if I keep betting against the Raiders they'll have a good year.  *sigh* Kansas City at San Diego Arizona at Seattle  Seattle has one of the best "12th Man"s in the game. Atlanta at Tampa Bay Green Bay at Chicago Pittsburgh at Indianapolis Washington at Dallas  Romo won't even play. @Micha: You forgot Texans vs Frenchies
#49 Cpt_Micha Sep 20, 2011 8:09:47	Thanks
#50 zombie_babies Sep 20, 2011 13:00:28	Well look-y thar.  Taking only the games I actually picked into account, I'm 16-3.  Taking all games into account, I'm still .500 and out of the bottom spot (even discounting RH's absence).  Yeah, I pwn.    Aaaaaaaand ... I've just cursed myself so these will probably suck: Houston at New Orleans NY Giants at Philadelphia - This is a conditional pick that I may change if Vick is out due to injury. Jacksonville at Carolina New England at Buffalo Miami at Cleveland San Francisco at Cincinnati Denver at Tennessee Detroit at Minnesota Baltimore at St. Louis NY Jets at Oakland Kansas City at San Diego Arizona at Seattle Atlanta at Tampa Bay Green Bay at Chicago Pittsburgh at Indianapolis Washington at Dallas I really don't get enough time to watch games or read post-mortems to make good picks.  I'm just picking what I believe is the better team in that matchup.  So far, so good.  Don't think it'll last though.  Just not enough research time.  I mean, I watch like half of a game a week and read maybe two articles.  Not what I was able to do last year.  Not good.  Just hope I keep gettin' lucky!
#51 KillerGM Sep 20, 2011 17:42:18	Well, so much for my emotion-/luck-based picks ... but that won't stop me from doing it again!! Houston at New Orleans NY Giants at Philadelphia Jacksonville at Carolina New England at Buffalo Miami at Cleveland San Francisco at Cincinnati Denver at Tennessee Detroit at Minnesota Baltimore at St. Louis NY Jets at Oakland Kansas City at San Diego Arizona at Seattle Atlanta at Tampa Bay Green Bay at Chicago Pittsburgh at Indianapolis Washington at Dallas Maybe it was my lack of cheering?
#52 dirtyfrank Sep 20, 2011 18:30:46	Houston at New Orleans : NO is generally better. NY Giants at Philadelphia : I think having the home game will give the eagles the advantage. Jacksonville at Carolina : IDK both teams probably suck so I'm just going with home team. New England at Buffalo : NE is a good team so picking them is always safe. Miami at Cleveland : I'm going with the browns only because they're home team. San Francisco at Cincinnati : Niners suck and playing an away game so will probably suck even harder. Denver at Tennessee : Don't know or care about either of these teams so picking the home team. Detroit at Minnesota : Vikings tend to be pretty OK some of the time so lets go with them. Baltimore at St. Louis : The Rams are horrible. Nuff said. NY Jets at Oakland : Oakland sucks. Nuff said. Kansas City at San Diego : It's not the playoffs yet so this should be no problem for SD. Arizona at Seattle : Arizona almost never wins division games. Atlanta at Tampa Bay : I'm believing in the TB. Green Bay at Chicago : These places are near each other so don't think being home team will give the bears any sort of advantage. Pittsburgh at Indianapolis : Colts suck. Although I'd prefer it is Pitt lost the rest of their games. Washington at Dallas : Um both these teams suck but maybe Dallas sucks less.
#53 grehnhewe Sep 20, 2011 18:58:05	Week 3 picks New Orleans Philadelphia Carolina New England Cleveland San Francisco Tennessee Minnesota Baltimore NY Jets San Diego Arizona Atlanta Green Bay Pittsburgh Dallas
#54 bone_naga Sep 21, 2011 16:45:31	New Orleans NY Giants Carolina New England Cleveland San Francisco Denver Minnesota Baltimore NY Jets Kansas City Arizona Tampa Bay Green Bay Dallas
#55 jetshield Sep 22, 2011 18:10:08	Week 3 Houston at New Orleans NY Giants at Philadelphia Jacksonville at Carolina New England at Buffalo Miami at Cleveland San Francisco at Cincinnati Denver at Tennessee Detroit at Minnesota Baltimore at St. Louis NY Jets at Oakland Kansas City at San Diego Arizona at Seattle Atlanta at Tampa Bay Green Bay at Chicago Pittsburgh at Indianapolis Washington at Dallas
#56 dirtyfrank Sep 25, 2011 12:26:02	Picks are now considered finalized. Good luck everyone.
#57 draco1119 Sep 25, 2011 19:54:58	If it's not too late to change my pick for the MNF game, I'd like to pick the 'Boys.  I just found out Romo will be playing.  In Kevlar body armor, no less. If it is too late... oh, well.
#58 dirtyfrank Sep 25, 2011 21:30:00	If it's not too late to change my pick for the MNF game, I'd like to pick the 'Boys.  I just found out Romo will be playing.  In Kevlar body armor, no less. If it is too late... oh, well. Since the monday night game has not started yet I will allow for the pick change.
#59 Cpt_Micha Sep 26, 2011 7:24:09	I'm going to go with Dallas. Romo's balls clang when he walks and drag on the ground behind him. Injured Romo should change his name to Mother Effin Rambo. He chokes like a scared little girl when he's fine... but put a hurting on him? I think Romo realizes he's played like crap since he signed on over all. And maybe something went down at the start of the season and he knows this is his last year in the NFL. Either way though, I respect the man or am really scared of him heh. Anyone that keeps playing with a collapsed lung has earned his Man Card for eternity.
#60 draco1119 Sep 26, 2011 7:49:58	Picks are now considered finalized. Good luck everyone. In order to clear up any confusion, how about we finalize the rules on when picks are locked?  Instead of just "before the game starts", how about we do, as an example, "Before 11am ET on game day"?  That way you don't get people trying to change their picks for the Sunday night game halfway through the afternoon games, and it's still early enough that they can change them for the early games.
#61 dirtyfrank Sep 26, 2011 8:39:41	Picks are now considered finalized. Good luck everyone. In order to clear up any confusion, how about we finalize the rules on when picks are locked?  Instead of just "before the game starts", how about we do, as an example, "Before 11am ET on game day"?  That way you don't get people trying to change their picks for the Sunday night game halfway through the afternoon games, and it's still early enough that they can change them for the early games. I was thinking something similar but mainly because people would leave their pick change in a new post rather than editing the original like they do if they change their pick earlier in the week. OK new rule amendment thingy. All picks are considered final at 10pm PST Saturday. The only exception will be for those rare Thursday night games in which those games will final at Noon PST Thursday. I'm not always going to be waking up super early on Sundays so Saturday nights should be good. I understand that everyone wants to do as good as they can (for the most part), but I'd prefer to do as little work as I can. This new rule will be in effect starting now. I'll allow the change or two made before this post. Everyone else is out of luck. If you want to complain then blame the people who made me work that extra little bit.
#62 draco1119 Sep 26, 2011 9:06:54	The only exception will be for those rare Thursday night games in which those games will final at Noon PST Thursday. The first Thanksgiving Day game starts before that.  Detroit and Packers meet at 12:30 ET.
#63 dirtyfrank Sep 26, 2011 9:12:00	The only exception will be for those rare Thursday night games in which those games will final at Noon PST Thursday. The first Thanksgiving Day game starts before that.  Detroit and Packers meet at 12:30 ET. That will be dealt with when it comes up. Either things will be finalized earlier in the morning or the night before. I figure that out once the time comes. I'll also try and edit and clean up the rules in the OP sometime in the next week.
#64 dirtyfrank Sep 26, 2011 15:46:13	My search fu sucks this morning. I was going to find the rules posted at the Eagle 96.9 here in sac as they have a weekly prize for their football pool. I think the major change is theirs has a no changing your mind clause. That would be something good. Would cause people to also make their picks on say Thursday or Friday instead of Monday night or Tuesday morning followed by several changes throughout the week.
#65 draco1119 Sep 26, 2011 15:50:35	My search fu sucks this morning. I was going to find the rules posted at the Eagle 96.9 here in sac as they have a weekly prize for their football pool. I think the major change is theirs has a no changing your mind clause. That would be something good. Would cause people to also make their picks on say Thursday or Friday instead of Monday night or Tuesday morning followed by several changes throughout the week. Hey!  I only made one change, and that was based on a late (like on Sunday) report on Romo.  And that change means that TD has a chance to tie me this week.
#66 dirtyfrank Sep 27, 2011 13:46:09	Week 3 Results draco1119: 13 - 3 dirtyfrank: 11 - 5 Jetshield: 11 - 5 Tunder_Dragonbane: 11 - 5 Cpt_Micha: 10 - 6 grehnhewe: 10 - 6 Zombie_Babies: 10 - 6 bone_naga: 9 - 7 KillerGM: 7 - 9 Robin_Hoodlum: 0 - 16 Season Results Jetshield: 33 - 15 dirtyfrank: 30 - 18 bone_naga: 28 - 20 Tunder_Dragonbane: 28 - 20 draco1119: 28 - 20 Zombie_Babies: 26 - 22 grehnhewe: 25 - 23 Cpt_Micha: 23 - 25 KillerGM: 22 - 26 Robin_Hoodlum: 5 - 43 Looks like we have a 3 way tie for 3rd place.
#67 zombie_babies Sep 27, 2011 13:55:32	If only I'd have gotten my first week's picks in in time ... Still, 10-6 is ok.  It was lookin' a lot worse 'til some late game heroics in quite a few games.  Heh.  This is funs.
#68 draco1119 Sep 27, 2011 14:08:24	Season Results Jetshield: 33 - 15 dirtyfrank: 30 - 18 bone_naga: 28 - 20 Tunder_Dragonbane: 28 - 20 draco1119: 28 - 20 Zombie_Babies: 26 - 22 grehnhewe: 25 - 23 Cpt_Micha: 23 - 25 KillerGM: 22 - 26 Robin_Hoodlum: 5 - 43 Looks like we have a 3 way tie for 3rd place.
#69 dirtyfrank Sep 27, 2011 15:00:29	Week 4 Games Detroit at Dallas Carolina at Chicago Buffalo at Cincinnati Tennessee at Cleveland Minnesota at Kansas City Washington at St. Louis New Orleans at Jacksonville Pittsburgh at Houston San Francisco at Philadelphia NY Giants at Arizona Atlanta at Seattle Miami at San Diego New England at Oakland Denver at Green Bay NY Jets at Baltimore Indianapolis at Tampa Bay
#70 zombie_babies Sep 27, 2011 15:43:35	Detroit at Dallas Carolina at Chicago Buffalo at Cincinnati Tennessee at Cleveland Minnesota at Kansas City Washington at St. Louis New Orleans at Jacksonville Pittsburgh at Houston San Francisco at Philadelphia NY Giants at Arizona Atlanta at Seattle Miami at San Diego New England at Oakland Denver at Green Bay NY Jets at Baltimore Indianapolis at Tampa Bay I don't like my picks.  I think Indy is due.  Philly is in trouble.  The Browns are due to lose.  Carolina has a real chance (never bet on Cutler).  Dallas can be great and Detroit is due for a let down.  New England has one black eye and the Raiders are all about symmetry.  Meh, don't like my picks but I'll live or die by 'em. EDIT: And I think Minnesota may be beginning to figure it out.  And I bet Chris Johnson finally gets on track this week - killing my damned Browns pick.  I was gonna pick against 'em but just couldn't pull the trigger.  Dammit!
#71 draco1119 Sep 27, 2011 16:10:32	Week 4 Games Detroit at Dallas Carolina at Chicago Buffalo at Cincinnati Tennessee at Cleveland Minnesota at Kansas City Washington at St. Louis New Orleans at Jacksonville Pittsburgh at Houston San Francisco at Philadelphia NY Giants at Arizona Atlanta at Seattle Miami at San Diego New England at Oakland Denver at Green Bay NY Jets at Baltimore Indianapolis at Tampa Bay
#72 Cpt_Micha Sep 27, 2011 18:48:56	Lions vs Cowboys. Injured Romo vs Lions. Hm. As much as I admire his stones I don't think the rest of the team can measure up. Lions. Carolina vs Chicago. You all know what my pick is going to be. But not for the reasons you might think. Chitown is in big trouble up there, Special Teams isn't going to win a game by itself. Carolina Bills vs Cinci. I was wrong last week, it's week 4.... it's time for the bills to choke.. but the bengals... I can't believe I'm going to say it. Bills for the win in Week 4. Titans vs Brownstains.  Titans. They look awful hit or miss but the browns are still worse. Vikings vs Chiefs. Vikings Redskins vs Damned Rams.   Redskins. Saints vs Jags.   Saints, no question unless they end up in the middle of a monsoon to keep the ball on the ground. Steelers vs Houstan. I like Houstan I really do. The question is which steelers team is going to be showing up to play, week one or week 3s?  I'm going to say that the steelers suffered direly from a lack of practice and are starting to settle in. Steelers. 49ers vs the "Dream Team" I can't believe I'm going to say this... 49ers.   Falcons vs Dirtybirds. NFC Souf all the way baby. Falcons. If they can just settle in and play they'll be alright. Chokin Chargers vs Poached Fish....   Chokin Chargers all the way. Jets vs Baltimore. This one should be an awesome game. I'm going to go Ravens though, because of their fantastic D and the jets still have a somewhat inconsistent offense. Indy vs Tampa.   Is Indy due? Nope. As bad as I feel Tampa is, Indy is worse.  Tampa Bay. Greenbay vs Denver... Greenbay Pats vs Raiders. Patriots. They are on a mission. SB Year? Giants vs Arizona. I think the giants are a little soft. Arizona.
#73 grehnhewe Sep 27, 2011 18:56:44	Week 4 Games Picks Detroit Carolina Buffalo Tennessee Minnesota Washington New Orleans Houston Philadelphia NY Giants Seattle  San Diego New England Green Bay  Baltimore  Tampa Bay I sure am picking alot of teams to win away games
#74 grehnhewe Sep 27, 2011 19:06:22	Chokin Chargers vs Poached Fish....   Chokin Chargers all the way. Chokin Chargers!  To say they choke is a very generalised description, auto-asphyxiation would be more precise.  Actually 2-1 is a good start for the Chargers, but they really do look inept. I am counting on Carolina this week!
#75 Cpt_Micha Sep 27, 2011 19:14:10	This is Red Letter weekend as far as I'm concerned with the Cats. I want them to trounce Julias Crappers.. I mean Peppers so hard that his mom calls and asks "honey are you alright"
#76 draco1119 Sep 27, 2011 20:18:07	colorful I was trying to put my pick in its primary color.  But there was so much blue I went with orange for Da Bears.
#77 dirtyfrank Oct 01, 2011 15:15:20	Detroit at Dallas Carolina at Chicago Buffalo at Cincinnati Tennessee at Cleveland Minnesota at Kansas City Washington at St. Louis New Orleans at Jacksonville Pittsburgh at Houston San Francisco at Philadelphia NY Giants at Arizona Atlanta at Seattle Miami at San Diego New England at Oakland Denver at Green Bay NY Jets at Baltimore Indianapolis at Tampa Bay
#78 jetshield Oct 01, 2011 17:25:58	Week 4 Games Detroit at Dallas Carolina at Chicago Buffalo at Cincinnati Tennessee at Cleveland Minnesota at Kansas City Washington at St. Louis New Orleans at Jacksonville Pittsburgh at Houston San Francisco at Philadelphia NY Giants at Arizona Atlanta at Seattle Miami at San Diego New England at Oakland Denver at Green Bay NY Jets at Baltimore Indianapolis at Tampa Bay
#79 dirtyfrank Oct 02, 2011 14:09:24	I don't see picks from KGM so here picks will go off of this as she's pre established this. I forget if I put this in the rules and if I didn't I intended to. You can set it up to pick for certain teams or pick in a certain pattern. Like for instance pick NO and NE every week and all other games home team or something like that. EDIT: Also, if I ever miss a week, I will always vote for the Eagles > 49ers > Vikings > Raiders, in that preference (if they play each other, otherwise, vote for them in any of their games). Anyways here is what her picks are for this week. Eagles over the niners Vikings over KC Raiders over NE
#80 dirtyfrank Oct 04, 2011 14:20:03	Week 4 Results Jetshield: 13 - 3 dirtyfrank: 13 - 3 draco1119: 12 - 4 Zombie_Babies: 12 - 4 Cpt_Micha: 11 - 5 grehnhewe: 11 - 5 Tunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8 KillerGM: 0 - 16 bone_naga: 0 - 16* Season Results Jetshield: 46 - 18 dirtyfrank: 43 - 21 draco1119: 40 - 24 Zombie_Babies: 38 - 26 grehnhewe: 36 - 28 Tunder_Dragonbane: 36 - 28 Cpt_Micha: 34 - 30 bone_naga: 28 - 36 KillerGM: 22 - 42 Robin_Hoodlum: 5 - 59** _________________________ *Saw no picks submitted **Is he perma banned or something?
#81 dirtyfrank Oct 04, 2011 17:00:53	OK then I'll drop him from the whole thing.
#82 zombie_babies Oct 05, 2011 12:32:17	Can't ... wait ... any ... longer ... Bye week teams: Cleveland, Dallas, St Louis, Miami, Washington, Baltimore Sunday 10-9 Tennessee at Pittsburgh Cincinnati at Jacksonville New Orleans at Carolina Oakland at Houston Philadelphia at Buffalo Arizona at Minnesota Kansas City at Indianapolis Seattle at Giants Tampa Bay at San Francisco San Diego at Denver Jets at New England Green Bay at Atlanta Monday 10-10 Chicago at Detroit
#83 zombie_babies Oct 05, 2011 12:36:23	Tennessee at Pittsburgh Cincinnati at Jacksonville New Orleans at Carolina Oakland at Houston Philadelphia at Buffalo Arizona at Minnesota Kansas City at Indianapolis Seattle at Giants Tampa Bay at San Francisco San Diego at Denver Jets at New England Green Bay at Atlanta Chicago at Detroit There's some picks I don't like there, but whatever.
#84 KillerGM Oct 05, 2011 12:54:37	Bleh.  What are we doing again? Just put me at my regular picks and any AWAY team.
#85 dirtyfrank Oct 05, 2011 13:32:15	Can't ... wait ... any ... longer ... Oh yeah sorry about that. I meant to do it but didn't really get around to it. Yesterday was my lazy day. Thanks for putting it up and junk Just put me at my regular picks and any AWAY team. Got it.
#86 draco1119 Oct 05, 2011 14:17:39	Tennessee at Pittsburgh Cincinnati at Jacksonville New Orleans at Carolina Oakland at Houston Philadelphia at Buffalo Arizona at Minnesota Kansas City at Indianapolis Seattle at Giants Tampa Bay at San Francisco San Diego at Denver Jets at New England Green Bay at Atlanta Chicago at Detroit
#87 zombie_babies Oct 05, 2011 14:45:43	Oh yeah sorry about that. I meant to do it but didn't really get around to it. Yesterday was my lazy day. Thanks for putting it up and junk NP, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss my chance, heh - though I think my picks this time are ... not the best.  Meh.
#88 Cpt_Micha Oct 05, 2011 21:05:40	Steelers Jacksonville Carolina. (I'm nothing if not consistent. You don't get that close repeatedly without winning damnit) Houstan Arizona KC Time for the giants to choke.  Seahawks Tampa Bay Chargers New England Green Bay Philly vs Bills. Bills. Yeah they are supposed to choke their way through but Philly blows. Chicago. EDIT cause I forgot one. Thanks Draco
#89 grehnhewe Oct 06, 2011 18:38:41	Week 5...here goes nothin' Tennessee Cincinnati New Orleans Houston Buffalo Minnesota Indianapolis Giants San Francisco San Diego New England Green Bay Detroit There are at least four of these games I am very unsure about.
#90 Cpt_Micha Oct 08, 2011 10:24:07	Thanks to draco for pointing out I missed one. Course it's a pair of nobody teams.... still thanks
#91 dirtyfrank Oct 08, 2011 14:33:38	Tennessee at Pittsburgh Cincinnati at Jacksonville New Orleans at Carolina Oakland at Houston Philadelphia at Buffalo Arizona at Minnesota Kansas City at Indianapolis Seattle at Giants Tampa Bay at San Francisco San Diego at Denver Jets at New England Green Bay at Atlanta Chicago at Detroit
#92 jetshield Oct 08, 2011 19:48:01	Sunday 10-9 Tennessee at Pittsburgh Cincinnati at Jacksonville New Orleans at Carolina Oakland at Houston Philadelphia at Buffalo Arizona at Minnesota Kansas City at Indianapolis Seattle at Giants Tampa Bay at San Francisco San Diego at Denver Jets at New England Green Bay at Atlanta Monday 10-10 Chicago at Detroit
#93 dirtyfrank Oct 11, 2011 14:17:45	Week 5 Results draco1119: 9 - 4 Jetshield: 9 - 4 grehnhewe: 9 - 4 KillerGM: 9 - 4 dirtyfrank: 8 - 5 Zombie_Babies: 7 - 6 Cpt_Micha: 7 - 6 Tunder_Dragonbane: 5 - 8 bone_naga: 0 - 16* Season Results Jetshield: 55 - 22 dirtyfrank: 51 - 26 draco1119: 49 - 28 Zombie_Babies: 45 - 32 grehnhewe: 45 - 32 Tunder_Dragonbane: 41 - 36 Cpt_Micha: 41 - 36 KillerGM: 31 - 46 bone_naga: 28 - 49 _________________________ *Saw no picks submitted
#94 dirtyfrank Oct 11, 2011 14:24:18	Week 6 Games SUN, OCT 16 San Francisco at Detroit St. Louis at Green Bay Carolina at Atlanta Indianapolis at Cincinnati Buffalo at NY Giants Jacksonville at Pittsburgh Philadelphia at Washington Houston at Baltimore Cleveland at Oakland Dallas at New England New Orleans at Tampa Bay Minnesota at Chicago MON, OCT 17 Miami at NY Jets
#95 zombie_babies Oct 11, 2011 14:57:06	Detroit Green Bay Atlanta Cincinnati Buffalo Pittsburgh Philadelphia Baltimore Oakland New England New Orleans  Chicago MON, OCT 17 NY Jets Winners picked.  Wouldn't let me strikethrough for some reason.
#96 draco1119 Oct 11, 2011 16:01:19	Detroit Green Bay Carolina India-no-place Buffalo Pittsburgh Philadelphia Houston Cleveland New England New Orleans  Minnesota MON, OCT 17 NY Jets
#97 Cpt_Micha Oct 11, 2011 18:27:45	Detroit Greenbay Carolina Oh god you choking bastards (both teams love chokin).... Bills Steelers Redskins Ravens Oakland Patriots Bears Cinci Saints Jets. Thanks again draco.. yeah you're right Tampa really is that bad and is easily the worst team of all this year.
#98 draco1119 Oct 12, 2011 8:05:20	You mised a game.  Again.  It's the one filled with more suck than the rest.
#99 Cpt_Micha Oct 12, 2011 8:20:06	It's almost like I'm trying to protect myself from the fail every week isn't it?
#100 grehnhewe Oct 13, 2011 19:10:27	Week 6 Picks SUN, OCT 16 Detroit Green Bay Carolina Cincinnati Buffalo Pittsburgh Washington Baltimore Oakland New England New Orleans Minnesota MON, OCT 17 NY Jets
#101 jetshield Oct 15, 2011 13:43:41	SUN, OCT 16 San Francisco at Detroit St. Louis at Green Bay Carolina at Atlanta Indianapolis at Cincinnati Buffalo at NY Giants Jacksonville at Pittsburgh Philadelphia at Washington Houston at Baltimore Cleveland at Oakland Dallas at New England New Orleans at Tampa Bay Minnesota at Chicago MON, OCT 17 Miami at NY Jets
#102 dirtyfrank Oct 15, 2011 19:25:46	San Francisco at Detroit St. Louis at Green Bay Carolina at Atlanta Indianapolis at Cincinnati Buffalo at NY Giants Jacksonville at Pittsburgh Philadelphia at Washington Houston at Baltimore Cleveland at Oakland Dallas at New England New Orleans at Tampa Bay Minnesota at Chicago Miami at NY Jets
#103 dirtyfrank Oct 18, 2011 11:12:33	Week 6 Results Jetshield: 10 - 3 dirtyfrank: 10 - 3 Zombie_Babies:10 - 3 Cpt_Micha: 8 - 5 grehnhewe: 7 - 6 draco1119: 5 - 8 Tunder_Dragonbane: 5 - 8 KillerGM: 3 - 10* bone_naga: 0 - 13** Season Results Jetshield: 65 - 25 dirtyfrank: 61 - 29 Zombie_Babies: 55 - 35 draco1119: 54 - 36 grehnhewe: 52 - 38 Cpt_Micha: 49 - 41 Tunder_Dragonbane: 46 - 44 KillerGM: 34 - 56* bone_naga: 28 - 62** _________________________ *I'm not sure if her last pick was only for the previous week or how she wishes to have all of her remaining picks. Either way the only away teams that won were teams that are on her list of 4 so she has the same result regardless. **Saw no picks submitted. I'll have to send him a pm or something.
#104 dirtyfrank Oct 18, 2011 11:23:49	Week 7 SUN, OCT 23 San Diego at NY Jets Chicago at Tampa Bay Washington at Carolina Atlanta at Detroit Seattle at Cleveland Denver at Miami Houston at Tennessee Kansas City at Oakland Pittsburgh at Arizona Green Bay at Minnesota St. Louis at Dallas Indianapolis at New Orleans MON, OCT 24 Baltimore at Jacksonville
#105 zombie_babies Oct 18, 2011 11:48:36	Hey, I think I should be 10-3.  I'm only seeing 3 losses.  Am I missing something?
#106 zombie_babies Oct 18, 2011 11:53:33	San Diego at NY Jets Chicago at Tampa Bay Washington at Carolina Atlanta at Detroit Seattle at Cleveland Denver at Miami Houston at Tennessee Kansas City at Oakland Pittsburgh at Arizona Green Bay at Minnesota St. Louis at Dallas Indianapolis at New Orleans MON, OCT 24 Baltimore at Jacksonville Ugh.  Ugly week.  Me no likey.
#107 Cpt_Micha Oct 18, 2011 18:55:31	San Diego at NY Jets Chicago at Tampa Bay Washington at Carolina Atlanta at Detroit  Seattle at Cleveland Denver at Miami Houston at Tennessee Kansas City at Oakland Pittsburgh at Arizona Green Bay at Minnesota St. Louis at Dallas Indianapolis at New Orleans MON, OCT 24 Baltimore at Jacksonville Jets Chicago Redskins. Yeah I give up. the cats lost to Fatlanta. Seriously. Seahawks Denver Houstan Steelers Greenbay Dallas Saints Jacksonville.
#108 dirtyfrank Oct 18, 2011 19:05:50	Hey, I think I should be 10-3.  I'm only seeing 3 losses.  Am I missing something? Sorry about that. It looks like I didn't tally down your pick for the Eagles when I was tallying up all the picks. Correcting all that junk. I encourage you guys to check every once in a while because as You have seen I can make mistakes.
#109 zombie_babies Oct 19, 2011 9:09:30	Thanks man.  I'm not gonna complain about the odd mistake here and there.  You doin' the work makes up for any of that stuff.
#110 draco1119 Oct 19, 2011 15:21:46	Week 7 SUN, OCT 23 San Diego at NY Jets Chicago at Tampa Bay Washington at Carolina Atlanta at Detroit Seattle at Cleveland Denver at Miami Houston at Tennessee Kansas City at Oakland Pittsburgh at Arizona Green Bay at Minnesota St. Louis at Dallas Indianapolis at New Orleans MON, OCT 24 Baltimore at Jacksonville I like most of these picks, though I wonder about Seattle/Cleveland, Chicago/TB, and (believe it or not) KC/Oakland.  Carson Palmer in Oaktown, but he'll be brand-spankin'-new and rusty...
#111 zombie_babies Oct 19, 2011 15:49:16	Seattle/Cleveland, Chicago/TB and Atlanta/Detroit all have me wonderin'.  I picked Oakland even before the trade because I believe in McFadden being enough.  With Palmer, he probably better be.  Carson can be good again but he's old and he missed a lot of ball.  Oh, and he never played for any team other than Cincy before.  Hope he's a quick learner.  Bet on simple offense and likely more special teams shenanigans.  They'll need it.  Still, I have faith for some reason.
#112 grehnhewe Oct 19, 2011 19:40:09	I am having a rough one making picks this week too, I am going to give it another day. Quite a few games I am unsure about, the Wembley game and others. Palmer is starting this week, I might have to go with Raiders. @Cpt_Micha:  I think you are missing a couple picks. (I think I am going to give Carolina another go, it is at home and Cam is due for a win)
#113 dirtyfrank Oct 20, 2011 0:05:58	@Cpt_Micha:  I think you are missing a couple picks. (I think I am going to give Carolina another go, it is at home and Cam is due for a win) Looks like 2. There should be 13 games I believe and it looks like he only has 11 picks.
#114 draco1119 Oct 20, 2011 7:39:04	@Cpt_Micha:  I think you are missing a couple picks. (I think I am going to give Carolina another go, it is at home and Cam is due for a win) Looks like 2. There should be 13 games I believe and it looks like he only has 11 picks. He missed the Oakland and Detroit games.  For once, it wasn't the one(s) full of fail. In order to make this post worthwhile. I would like to say: I will pick the opponents of both Oakland and Indianapolis every week, and I will pick GB and NO every week.
#115 Cpt_Micha Oct 20, 2011 9:32:15	I blame ZB since I quoted him to make my list. Whoever Oakland's opponent is. And Detroit are my picks.
#116 draco1119 Oct 20, 2011 9:45:51	I blame ZB since I quoted him to make my list. Whoever Oakland's opponent is. And Detroit are my picks.  Uh.. dude?  Those two games are on your list.  You just brainfarted.  Are you sure you want to pick the Chiefs over the Raiders in Oakland?
#117 grehnhewe Oct 20, 2011 19:03:50	My Picks! Week 7 SUN, OCT 23 San Diego Chicago Carolina Detroit Seattle Denver Houston Oakland Pittsburgh Green Bay Dallas New Orleans MON, OCT 24 Baltimore
#118 dirtyfrank Oct 21, 2011 1:19:05	San Diego at NY Jets Chicago at Tampa Bay Washington at Carolina Atlanta at Detroit Seattle at Cleveland Denver at Miami Houston at Tennessee Kansas City at Oakland Pittsburgh at Arizona Green Bay at Minnesota St. Louis at Dallas Indianapolis at New Orleans Baltimore at Jacksonville
#119 jetshield Oct 21, 2011 7:33:50	Week 7 SUN, OCT 23 San Diego at NY Jets Chicago at Tampa Bay Washington at Carolina Atlanta at Detroit Seattle at Cleveland Denver at Miami Houston at Tennessee Kansas City at Oakland Pittsburgh at Arizona Green Bay at Minnesota St. Louis at Dallas Indianapolis at New Orleans MON, OCT 24 Baltimore at Jacksonville
#120 dirtyfrank Oct 25, 2011 15:01:08	Week 7 Results Cpt_Micha: 10 - 3 draco1119: 10 - 3 Zombie_Babies: 9 - 4 grehnhewe: 8 - 5 Jetshield: 8 - 5 Tunder_Dragonbane: 9 - 4 dirtyfrank: 7 - 6 KillerGM: 5 - 8 bone_naga: 0 - 13 Season Results Jetshield: 73 - 30 dirtyfrank: 68 - 35 Zombie_Babies: 64 - 39 draco1119: 64 - 39 grehnhewe: 60 - 43 Cpt_Micha: 59 - 44 Tunder_Dragonbane: 55 - 48 KillerGM: 39 - 64 bone_naga: 28 - 75
#121 dirtyfrank Oct 25, 2011 15:04:12	Week 8 SUN, OCT 30 Arizona at Baltimore Minnesota at Carolina Jacksonville at Houston Miami at NY Giants New Orleans at St. Louis Indianapolis at Tennessee Detroit at Denver Washington at Buffalo Cincinnati at Seattle Cleveland at San Francisco New England at Pittsburgh Dallas at Philadelphia MON, OCT 31 San Diego at Kansas City
#122 zombie_babies Oct 25, 2011 15:30:11	SUN, OCT 30 Arizona at Baltimore Minnesota at Carolina Jacksonville at Houston Miami at NY Giants New Orleans at St. Louis Indianapolis at Tennessee Detroit at Denver Washington at Buffalo Cincinnati at Seattle Cleveland at San Francisco New England at Pittsburgh Dallas at Philadelphia MON, OCT 31 San Diego at Kansas City Lotsa picks I don't like again.  Stupid Ravens ... anyhoo, I think Cam is better than Christian - though Jared Allen makes things interesting (so does AD), I'm pickin' Eli even though I think he's due for a flop (top three QB?  whoa), Indy is done but I don't think they'll lose 'em all, the power of Tebow compels me to ... pick against him (seriously, how many miracles can one man get from god?), I dunno about the Bills, New England seems to still be finding itself - especially against good D - and Pittsburgh seems to be closer to figuring it out but Tom Brady is no Big Ben (;)), Philly is the Nightmare Team but Romo is terrible and though the Chargers still seem to travel poorly, I feel Norv an' Phil can get the job done.  Maybe.  Ugh.  Oh yeah, stupid Ravens.  And stupid me!  I was watchin' the games and I coulda swore I picked the Falcons.  Why didn't I?  Dammit!
#123 draco1119 Oct 25, 2011 15:31:02	SUN, OCT 30 Arizona at Baltimore Minnesota at Carolina Jacksonville at Houston Miami at NY Giants New Orleans at St. Louis Indianapolis at Tennessee Detroit at Denver Washington at Buffalo Cincinnati at Seattle Cleveland at San Francisco New England at Pittsburgh Dallas at Philadelphia MON, OCT 31 San Diego at Kansas City Anytime the Seahawks are playing an equally sucktastic team at home I'm going to pick them.  They are the Home of Twelfth Man in the NFL.
#124 grehnhewe Oct 25, 2011 19:12:16	and though the Chargers still seem to travel poorly, I feel Norv an' Phil can get the job done.  Maybe.  Ugh. They better pull it off against the Chiefs.  They have Green Bay next week. I am so over the Chargers losing to themselves.  4-2 is actually a good start for them, but they really have to get it together. The best thing that has happened to the Chargers this year is Campbell being out for the rest of the season.  The Chargers have a much more difficult schedule than the Raiders.  I am anxious to see how the Raiders look after the bye week when they play Denver.
#125 grehnhewe Oct 25, 2011 20:07:49	San Diego at NY Jets = Jets = W I wish I had picked the Jets, and I wished I had not picked Oakland.
#126 grehnhewe Oct 25, 2011 20:15:06	Speaking of counting, I sure wish Rivers could count downs and seconds on the play clock.
#127 draco1119 Oct 25, 2011 20:57:35	Speaking of counting, I sure wish Rivers could count downs and seconds on the play clock. Man, that's all Norv.  ;)
#128 grehnhewe Oct 25, 2011 22:13:03	Speaking of counting, I sure wish Rivers could count downs and seconds on the play clock. Overrated QB at his finest? Actually I missed whatever he did. Did he throw away a 2 min drill or something? With a minute or so left to go, Rivers can't figure out how to stop the clock or avoid a delay of game penalty, and then looks confused when the game ends after the fourth down.
#129 Cpt_Micha Oct 26, 2011 20:02:43	Week 8 SUN, OCT 30  Arizona at Baltimore Minnesota at Carolina Jacksonville at Houston Miami at NY Giants New Orleans at St. Louis Indianapolis at Tennessee Detroit at Denver Washington at Buffalo Cincinnati at Seattle Cleveland at San Francisco New England at Pittsburgh Dallas at Philadelphia MON, OCT 31 San Diego at Kansas City Baltimore Carolina. God I can't believe I'm picking them again, but the Vikings D is failsauce. Houston Giantts Saints Tennessee Detroit Buffalo Cinci San Fran Pats Dallas Kansas Lots of hard picks this week.
#130 grehnhewe Oct 26, 2011 20:58:46	Week 8 SUN, OCT 30   Baltimore Carolina Houston NY Giants New Orleans Tennessee Detroit Buffalo Cincinnati San Francisco New England Philadelphia MON, OCT 31 San Diego
#131 draco1119 Oct 27, 2011 7:27:09	Lots of hard picks this week.  Yet we're all picking essentially the same teams...
#132 Cpt_Micha Oct 27, 2011 9:40:34	Well either our picks total is going to look really good this week, or we're about to all look really bad. (Hey KGM you have a chance to make a comeback starting this week!)
#133 dirtyfrank Oct 27, 2011 20:05:12	Show Last weeks picks: San Diego at NY Jets = Jets = W Chicago at Tampa Bay = Chi = W Washington at Carolina = DC = L Atlanta at Detroit = Det = L Seattle at Cleveland = dogs = W Denver at Miami = Den = W Houston at Tennessee = Hou = W Kansas City at Oakland = KC as Oak has no QB = W Pittsburgh at Arizona = Ari = L Green Bay at Minnesota = GB = W St. Louis at Dallas = cowgirls; OMG two weeks in a row? = W Indianapolis at New Orleans = NO = W Baltimore at Jacksonville = Balt = L
#134 dirtyfrank Oct 29, 2011 16:02:32	Arizona at Baltimore Minnesota at Carolina Jacksonville at Houston Miami at NY Giants New Orleans at St. Louis Indianapolis at Tennessee Detroit at Denver Washington at Buffalo Cincinnati at Seattle Cleveland at San Francisco New England at Pittsburgh Dallas at Philadelphia San Diego at Kansas City
#135 jetshield Oct 29, 2011 16:29:49	Week 8 Arizona at Baltimore Minnesota at Carolina Jacksonville at Houston Miami at NY Giants New Orleans at St. Louis Indianapolis at Tennessee Detroit at Denver Washington at Buffalo Cincinnati at Seattle Cleveland at San Francisco New England at Pittsburgh Dallas at Philadelphia San Diego at Kansas City edit: Heh. I could have just quoted you, DF.
#136 dirtyfrank Oct 29, 2011 20:27:25	edit: Heh. I could have just quoted you, DF. You could have, or you could have changed a few picks to give me a chance to catch up.
#137 jetshield Oct 29, 2011 21:38:12	I didn't do very well last week. You might wanna think about that. ;)
#138 dirtyfrank Nov 01, 2011 14:01:47	Week 8 Results Thunder_Dragonbne: 11 - 2 Cpt_Micha: 9 - 4 Zombie_Babies: 9 - 4 grehnhewe: 9 - 4 Jetshield: 9 - 4 dirtyfrank: 9 - 4 draco1119: 7 - 6 KillerGM: 5 - 8 Season Results Thus Far Jetshield: 82 - 34 dirtyfrank: 77 - 39 Zombie_Babies: 73 - 43 draco1119: 71 - 45 grehnhewe: 69 - 47 Cpt_Micha: 68 - 48 Tunder_Dragonbane: 66 - 50 KillerGM: 44 - 72 I decided to drop bone naga. Not sure if he still plans to participate but he's not made a pick for several weeks now. I'm having problems with these forums. First few times I submitted this post it took out TD's score for the week which is 11 - 2 and each time I try adding it back in it keeps taking it out. My ctrl+v is now backspacing instead of pasting for some odd reason.
#139 dirtyfrank Nov 01, 2011 14:12:08	Week 9 SUN, NOV 6 Miami at Kansas City Atlanta at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at New Orleans NY Jets at Buffalo Seattle at Dallas Cleveland at Houston San Francisco at Washington Cincinnati at Tennessee Denver at Oakland NY Giants at New England St. Louis at Arizona Green Bay at San Diego Baltimore at Pittsburgh MON, NOV 7 Chicago at Philadelphia
#140 zombie_babies Nov 01, 2011 15:15:32	SUN, NOV 6 Miami at Kansas City Atlanta at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at New Orleans NY Jets at Buffalo Seattle at Dallas Cleveland at Houston San Francisco at Washington Cincinnati at Tennessee Denver at Oakland NY Giants at New England St. Louis at Arizona Green Bay at San Diego Baltimore at Pittsburgh MON, NOV 7 Chicago at Philadelphia Tampa at NO is ... f'in terrible.  I mean, which version of either team is gonna show up?  If Drew Brees was still Drew Brees this would be easy.  Ugh.  Don't like the Ravens/Steelers pick either.  Tough stuff.  I believe the Steelers are better now than when they got their rear handed to 'em earlier in the year and that Flacco isn't gonna be on, though, so there ya go.  And what a Monday Night game!  Can't wait!  Tough to pick, but it should be awesome.
#141 draco1119 Nov 01, 2011 16:00:15	Week 9 SUN, NOV 6 Miami at Kansas City Atlanta at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at New Orleans NY Jets at Buffalo Seattle at Dallas Cleveland at Houston San Francisco at Washington Cincinnati at Tennessee Denver at Oakland NY Giants at New England St. Louis at Arizona Green Bay at San Diego Baltimore at Pittsburgh MON, NOV 7 Chicago at Philadelphia
#142 grehnhewe Nov 01, 2011 19:22:22	Week 9 SUN, NOV 6 Kansas City Atlanta New Orleans Buffalo Dallas Houston San Francisco Cincinnati Oakland New England St. Louis San Diego Pittsburgh MON, NOV 7 Philadelphia   Some good games this week, and some tough choices.  Also, I am an idiot for picking San Diego over Green Bay
#143 dirtyfrank Nov 05, 2011 13:04:24	Miami at Kansas City Atlanta at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at New Orleans NY Jets at Buffalo Seattle at Dallas Cleveland at Houston San Francisco at Washington Cincinnati at Tennessee Denver at Oakland NY Giants at New England St. Louis at Arizona Green Bay at San Diego Baltimore at Pittsburgh Chicago at Philadelphia
#144 jetshield Nov 06, 2011 21:25:33	sonofa! I forgot to post my picks. Well, you wanted a chance to catch up. You got it. If it's not too late, put me down for the eagles on monday's game.
#145 grehnhewe Nov 06, 2011 21:52:37	sonofa! I forgot to post my picks. Well, you wanted a chance to catch up. You got it. If it's not too late, put me down for the eagles on monday's game. I'm not going to be doing any catching up- 6 out of 12 so far....UGH!
#146 draco1119 Nov 07, 2011 6:35:23	sonofa! I forgot to post my picks. Well, you wanted a chance to catch up. You got it. If it's not too late, put me down for the eagles on monday's game. I'm not going to be doing any catching up- 6 out of 12 so far....UGH! I know the feeling.  It was bad enough that I don't want to find out exactly how bad...
#147 Cpt_Micha Nov 07, 2011 6:58:36	I forgot about my picks Chicago at Philadelphia Go Bears.   If it's not too late.
#148 jetshield Nov 07, 2011 7:48:01	I forgot about my picks Chicago at Philadelphia Go Bears.   If it's not too late.  You too huh? I'm just gonna hope that everyone made really bad picks, so I'll have a fighting chance to still win this thing.
#149 homicidal_squirrel Nov 07, 2011 11:40:38	That's what you all get for betting against the Dolphins   Show What? They have more games to play?
#150 homicidal_squirrel Nov 07, 2011 12:09:19	When was the last time the fins were actually good? 1972
#151 zombie_babies Nov 07, 2011 13:05:30	Ugh, 8-5 so far.  This was a good week to forget your picks.  Lotsa messed up games.  Blarga.
#152 dirtyfrank Nov 08, 2011 13:50:08	OK new rule amendment thingy. All picks are considered final at 10pm PST Saturday. The only exception will be for those rare Thursday night games in which those games will final at Noon PST Thursday. So here was the rule amendment I put in some time ago. I've been lazy and haven't updated the OP with it. Um that last part I etched out because the turkey day game is at noon est so the cut off will likely be a couple hours before the game or the night before (such as 10 pm pst). So sorry for those that forgot to pick you're being counted down as losses and junk
#153 dirtyfrank Nov 08, 2011 14:19:38	Week 9 Results KillerGM: 8 - 6 Zombie_Babies: 8 - 6 draco1119: 8 - 6 dirtyfrank: 7 - 7 Thunder_Dragonbne: 6 - 8 grehnhewe: 6 - 8 Jetshield: 0 - 14 Cpt_Micha: 0 - 14 Season Results Thus Far dirtyfrank: 84 - 46 Jetshield: 82 - 48 Zombie_Babies: 81 - 49 draco1119: 79 - 51 grehnhewe: 75 - 55 Tunder_Dragonbane: 72 - 58 Cpt_Micha: 68 - 62 KillerGM: 52 - 78 Well I'm in the lead but it doesn't feel all good and tingly. Kind of a !@#$y way of getting 1st. The upside though is that the fight for first should be much tighter and therefor much more interesting. Right now there is easily 4 people in the running for that spot.
#154 zombie_babies Nov 08, 2011 14:27:13	I'm just pleased that even after missing 13 picks the first week (I wouldn't have won all of 'em but it would have helped) I'm still in it.  Yay me!
#155 dirtyfrank Nov 08, 2011 14:27:58	Week 10 THU, NOV 10 Oakland at San Diego SUN, NOV 13 Arizona at Philadelphia Tennessee at Carolina      Houston at Tampa Bay      Washington at Miami Jacksonville at Indianapolis      Denver at Kansas City      Buffalo at Dallas      New Orleans at Atlanta      St. Louis at Cleveland Pittsburgh at Cincinnati Baltimore at Seattle NY Giants at San Francisco Detroit at Chicago      New England at NY Jets MON, NOV 14 Minnesota at Green Bay For the thursday night game please have the pick in by noon thursday pst. If by thursday you've not made all your picks please place all of the remaining picks in the post with the thursday pick.
#156 zombie_babies Nov 08, 2011 14:37:07	THU, NOV 10 Oakland at San Diego SUN, NOV 13 Arizona at Philadelphia Tennessee at Carolina      Houston at Tampa Bay Washington at Miami Jacksonville at Indianapolis      Denver at Kansas City      Buffalo at Dallas      New Orleans at Atlanta      St. Louis at Cleveland Pittsburgh at Cincinnati Baltimore at Seattle NY Giants at San Francisco Detroit at Chicago      New England at NY Jets MON, NOV 14 Minnesota at Green Bay Ugh.  Got some likely dumb picks there but whatever.  I went against my gut on a few of 'em so let's see how it goes.  Oakland has a shot (cuz Rivers is way off), Tampa may win, I think Indy is due (and Jacksonville is sucky), KC isn't a dome so god can see the Tebow One, Dallas is ... Romotastic, Atlanta is a team I'm not yet sold on (but neither is NO), the Browns could very well beat the notverygood Rams (another great football game to watch), Pittsburg is Pittsburgh ... sorta, the Niners are on a roll but Eli is playing out of his mind good for the most part, the Lions have so much heart and fire - two words Jay Cutler doesn't understand and the Jets are always a threat (I just think Brady isn't gonna lose another one so fast).  Meh, this is when it gets interesting I guess.
#157 draco1119 Nov 08, 2011 15:58:41	Week 10 THU, NOV 10 Oakland at San Diego SUN, NOV 13 Arizona at Philadelphia Tennessee at Carolina      Houston at Tampa Bay      Washington at Miami Jacksonville at Indianapolis      Denver at Kansas City      Buffalo at Dallas      New Orleans at Atlanta      St. Louis at Cleveland Pittsburgh at Cincinnati Baltimore at Seattle NY Giants at San Francisco Detroit at Chicago      New England at NY Jets MON, NOV 14 Minnesota at Green Bay I don't think the Niners are good enough to go 14-2, so I figure they're about due for a loss.  I think they'll end up somewhere between 11-5 and 13-3.  But the Giants are as good a pick as any to beat 'em, since they won't lose in their division.
#158 grehnhewe Nov 08, 2011 18:35:05	Week 10 THU, NOV 10 San Diego SUN, NOV 13  Philadelphia  Carolina      Houston      Miami  Indianapolis      Kansas City      Buffalo      New Orleans      St. Louis  Cincinnati Baltimore  San Francisco Detroit      NY Jets MON, NOV 14  Green Bay
#159 Cpt_Micha Nov 08, 2011 18:50:26	Week 10 THU, NOV 10 Oakland at San Diego SUN, NOV 13  Arizona at Philadelphia  Tennessee at Carolina      Houston at Tampa Bay      Washington at Miami  Jacksonville at Indianapolis      Denver at Kansas City      Buffalo at Dallas      New Orleans at Atlanta      St. Louis at Cleveland  Pittsburgh at Cincinnati  Baltimore at Seattle  NY Giants at San Francisco Detroit at Chicago      New England at NY Jets MON, NOV 14  Minnesota at Green Bay Now I'm bound and determined to get every weeks picks. I know I'm not going to win unless you guys totally brain fart, like I did this last week San Diego sun Philidelphia Tennessee. Let's be real the cats defense is terrible. So terrible they can't even stop the ball from the Deadskins offense. Houstan Washington Jacksonville Kansas Dallas...why not. New Orleans A fail off. Cleveland Steelers Baltimore Giants Detroit Jets Mon Greenbay.. seriously why is this even a game?
#160 dirtyfrank Nov 09, 2011 23:04:53	Oakland at San Diego Arizona at Philadelphia Tennessee at Carolina      Houston at Tampa Bay      Washington at Miami Jacksonville at Indianapolis      Denver at Kansas City      Buffalo at Dallas      New Orleans at Atlanta      St. Louis at Cleveland Pittsburgh at Cincinnati Baltimore at Seattle NY Giants at San Francisco Detroit at Chicago      New England at NY Jets  Minnesota at Green Bay
#161 jetshield Nov 09, 2011 23:20:59	Week 10 THU, NOV 10 Oakland at San Diego SUN, NOV 13  Arizona at Philadelphia  Tennessee at Carolina      Houston at Tampa Bay      Washington at Miami  Jacksonville at Indianapolis      Denver at Kansas City      Buffalo at Dallas      New Orleans at Atlanta      St. Louis at Cleveland  Pittsburgh at Cincinnati  Baltimore at Seattle  NY Giants at San Francisco Detroit at Chicago      New England at NY Jets MON, NOV 14  Minnesota at Green Bay
#162 grehnhewe Nov 10, 2011 18:54:41	What do you know I made it back in time... anyway. Glad you are back.  So I have this new Philip Rivers voodoo doll and a bunch of pins.  If you see him limp of the field tonight after throwing a pick, you will know why. So I am pretty stoked on the Niners.  I picked them over Manning Junior and crew.
#163 grehnhewe Nov 10, 2011 19:16:32	Glad you are back.  So I have this new Philip Rivers voodoo doll and a bunch of pins.  If you see him limp of the field tonight after throwing a pick, you will know why. So I am pretty stoked on the Niners.  I picked them over Manning Junior and crew. I don't pay for the NFL channel. I don't get to watch it. Put the games on a channel people actually get to watch it on. I agree.  The only reason I have it is because I pay for the soccer channel. (I spent a lot of years watching soccer in spanish)
#164 jetshield Nov 10, 2011 19:24:56	Okay. I finalized my picks for the week. Not sure how confident I am in them, but what the heck.
#165 jetshield Nov 12, 2011 16:07:31	Raiders    24 Chargers 17 edit: Damnit, DF, you're not supposed to be one up on me going into Sunday!
#166 zombie_babies Nov 14, 2011 10:03:57	My picks this time?  Ouch.  That's what I get for changing my method, I guess.
#167 jetshield Nov 14, 2011 13:57:03	You're not the only one to have a bad week, ZB. If I keep this up, there's still time for me to get to the bottom.
#168 Cpt_Micha Nov 15, 2011 7:36:24	Between the very start of the season, and me goofing and not posting pics that one week, ya'll have a long way to go down before I'm a threat for first :p
#169 dirtyfrank Nov 15, 2011 10:57:46	Raiders    24 Chargers 17 edit: Damnit, DF, you're not supposed to be one up on me going into Sunday! Sorry for me looking at simple statistics and seeing that the raiders would probably win. :P But seriously though the raiders have won almost all their away games this season and the chargers have lost almost all their home games as well. I thought this pick was easy between two teams with the same record, PF, PA and on the same coast.   ok working on tallying up scores and junk. will have them up in a few.
#170 dirtyfrank Nov 15, 2011 11:34:47	Week 10 Results KillerGM: 10 - 6 draco1119: 8 - 8 Jetshield: 8 - 8 Zombie_Babies: 8 - 8 dirtyfrank: 7 - 9 Cpt_Micha: 7 - 9 grehnhewe: 6 - 10 Thunder_Dragonbane: 6 - 10  Season Results Thus Far dirtyfrank: 91 - 55 Jetshield: 90 - 56 Zombie_Babies: 89 - 57 draco1119: 87 - 59 grehnhewe: 81 - 65 Thunder_Dragonbane: 78 - 68 Cpt_Micha: 75 - 71 KillerGM: 62 - 84  _______________________________ Feel free to check my work. We all did horribly so I will not be surprised if I screwed up a bit.  Looks like the fight for the lead is even tighter now.
#171 dirtyfrank Nov 15, 2011 11:40:57	Week 11 THU, NOV 17 NY Jets at Denver SUN, NOV 20 Tampa Bay at Green Bay Carolina at Detroit Jacksonville at Cleveland Oakland at Minnesota Buffalo at Miami Dallas at Washington Cincinnati at Baltimore Arizona at San Francisco Seattle at St. Louis Tennessee at Atlanta San Diego at Chicago Philadelphia at NY Giants MON, NOV 21 Kansas City at New England ________________ Same as last week. The thursday game needs to be in before noon thursday pst. The other games need to be in before the normal time. Update the post with the thursday game pick to keep all picks in one location.
#172 zombie_babies Nov 15, 2011 14:54:00	THU, NOV 17 NY Jets at Denver SUN, NOV 20 Tampa Bay at Green Bay Carolina at Detroit Jacksonville at Cleveland Oakland at Minnesota Buffalo at Miami Dallas at Washington Cincinnati at Baltimore Arizona at San Francisco Seattle at St. Louis Tennessee at Atlanta San Diego at Chicago Philadelphia at NY Giants MON, NOV 21 Kansas City at New England Ack, more 'fun' picks.  Oh well, guess that's the game.  I really hate pickin' against The Tebow One at home - a non dome, by the way, so god can see him - but Thursday isn't really a holy day so I think I'm ok.  Detroit ... I'm not confident in 'em.  Cleveland ... uhh ... yeah.  I don't believe Miami is back so screw 'em.  Romo is due for a flop but I don't think it'll happen just yet - plus that RB is insanely good.  I wanna pick Cincy but I don't think they're ready yet and I think Ray Lewis will stab Dalton into submission after that terrible performance in Seattle.  Speakin' of the Hawks, it physically hurts to pick a Pete Carrol team but the Rams are abysmal.  I'm worried about Atlanta after the disaster Sunday (if you're goin' for it on 4th and inches with a 6'5" QB, use the QB to sneak for the first) and Chris Johnson may be back.  Finally.  The Bears are hard to pick for because of Cutler's nature, but I think SD is done and the Bears are starting to put it together.  Philly is done and Vick is broken so ... not bad.  Neither is the New England pick.  Meh. And if only I had got my first week picks in, I'd be winnin' this thing right now!
#173 draco1119 Nov 15, 2011 16:01:45	Week 11 THU, NOV 17 NY Jets at Denver SUN, NOV 20 Tampa Bay at Green Bay Carolina at Detroit Jacksonville at Cleveland Oakland at Minnesota Buffalo at Miami Dallas at Washington Cincinnati at Baltimore Arizona at San Francisco Seattle at St. Louis Tennessee at Atlanta San Diego at Chicago Philadelphia at NY Giants MON, NOV 21 Kansas City at New England
#174 Cpt_Micha Nov 15, 2011 18:59:35	Week 11 THU, NOV 17  NY Jets at Denver SUN, NOV 20 Tampa Bay at Green Bay  Carolina at Detroit Jacksonville at Cleveland Oakland at Minnesota  Buffalo at Miami  Dallas at Washington Cincinnati at Baltimore Arizona at San Francisco Seattle at St. Louis  Tennessee at Atlanta  San Diego at Chicago  Philadelphia at NY Giants MON, NOV 21 Kansas City at New England Jets Greenbay... again how is this a game? I can't believe this... I'm picking the Cats.. Carolina Jacksonville Oakland Buffalo Dallas Cinci Arizona Seattle Tennessee. San Diego Giants Pats.  If only I hadn't been too slow posting that one week. Jeeze. I'd be 10 more Ws up.  and now I have no confidence in any of my picks. I'm just throwing darts at a dart board blind folded from here on. My Cats sucking like a vacuum cleaner really has taken my drive to watch the games away.
#175 grehnhewe Nov 16, 2011 18:53:01	Week 11 THU, NOV 17 NY Jets SUN, NOV 20 Green Bay Carolina Cleveland Oakland Miami Dallas Baltimore San Francisco St. Louis  Atlanta San Diego  Giants MON, NOV 21 New England Last week was awful
#176 jetshield Nov 17, 2011 1:06:09	Week 11 THU, NOV 17 NY Jets at Denver --------------To be determined---------------------- SUN, NOV 20 Tampa Bay at Green Bay Carolina at Detroit Jacksonville at Cleveland Oakland at Minnesota  Buffalo at Miami  Dallas at Washington Cincinnati at Baltimore Arizona at San Francisco Seattle at St. Louis  Tennessee at Atlanta  San Diego at Chicago  Philadelphia at NY Giants MON, NOV 21 Kansas City at New England
#177 dirtyfrank Nov 17, 2011 5:07:27	TD sent me his picks through email since he was banned for part of the week. I see that he is now unbanned so he can change stuff if he wants but this is when he had his picks. I don't feel like going back through the rules to see if this is 100% allowed (I might have stated that no private stuff like hidden picks) but I can look at that later. He's unbanned so he can always verify before the cutoff.
#178 dirtyfrank Nov 17, 2011 5:12:03	NY Jets at Denver Tampa Bay at Green Bay  Carolina at Detroit Jacksonville at Cleveland Oakland at Minnesota  Buffalo at Miami  Dallas at Washington Cincinnati at Baltimore Arizona at San Francisco Seattle at St. Louis  Tennessee at Atlanta  San Diego at Chicago  Philadelphia at NY Giants Kansas City at New England
#179 zombie_babies Nov 18, 2011 7:54:36	Tebow!  There is a god.  Never bet against Tebow when the game is played in an open stadium.  Any team with a retractable dome should close that sucka when Tebow comes preachin' in.  Wow.  Er ... either that or the Jets, you know, suck.
#180 dirtyfrank Nov 18, 2011 13:10:24	Tebow!  There is a god.  Never bet against Tebow when the game is played in an open stadium.  Any team with a retractable dome should close that sucka when Tebow comes preachin' in.  Wow.  Er ... either that or the Jets, you know, suck.  Or that the Jets havn't won a darn away game all season long (well 1 but 1 out of 4 isn't a good record to run on).
#181 jetshield Nov 20, 2011 9:16:46	I'm going to have to add a note on my calendar to remember my picks. I can't afford another 0-fer. Anyway, my picks are finalized, and the first game doesn't start for a couple hours, so here's hoping they count.
#182 Cpt_Micha Nov 20, 2011 10:00:17	Sure you can... take two more 0fers... infact Dirty, and ZB need to take a couple too *shifty eyes*
#183 dirtyfrank Nov 20, 2011 10:19:50	I'm going to have to add a note on my calendar to remember my picks. I can't afford another 0-fer. Anyway, my picks are finalized, and the first game doesn't start for a couple hours, so here's hoping they count. Here is the ruling that I've been to lazy to update the OP with because I'm a horrible game runner. OK new rule amendment thingy. All picks are considered final at 10pm PST Saturday. The only exception will be for those rare Thursday night games in which those games will final at Noon PST Thursday. I'm not always going to be waking up super early on Sundays so Saturday nights should be good. I feel bad breaking rules I set in place but because this season has a good chance of having a great fight for first between 4 people I will let your picks count this week because they were before a game started. However, if this happens in a future week you are SOL. I will be pasting this rule to the OP right now as well.
#184 zombie_babies Nov 21, 2011 8:51:17	Sure you can... take two more 0fers... infact Dirty, and ZB need to take a couple too *shifty eyes* Hey man, I already ate 13 losses cuz the game started when I wasn't online.  I ain't missin' no more!
#185 ORC_Loki Nov 21, 2011 12:54:01	I’ve removed content from this thread because Inappropriate Content is a violation of the Code of Conduct. You can review the Code of Conduct here: www.wizards.com/Company/About.aspx?x=wz_... Please keep your posts polite, respectful, on-topic, and refrain from using inappropriate language.
#186 Cpt_Micha Nov 21, 2011 22:30:45	I’ve removed content from this thread because Inappropriate Content is a violation of the Code of Conduct. You can review the Code of Conduct here: www.wizards.com/Company/About.aspx?x=wz_... Please keep your posts polite, respectful, on-topic, and refrain from using inappropriate language. So, what are your picks for next weeks games?
#187 jetshield Nov 21, 2011 22:57:19	I tried that once and got a vacation. Apparently ORCs are not permitted to take part in discussions. Either that of they just assume any attempt to get them to join one is an attack. *shrug*
#188 dirtyfrank Nov 22, 2011 0:06:09	Week 11 Results dirtyfrank: 12 - 1 Jetshield: 11 - 2 Zombie_Babies: 11 - 2 grehnhewe: 9 - 4 draco1119: 8 - 5 Thunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 5 Cpt_Micha: 5 - 8 KillerGM: 4 - 9 Season Results Thus Far dirtyfrank: 103 - 56 Jetshield: 101 - 58 Zombie_Babies: 100 - 59 draco1119: 95 - 64 grehnhewe: 90 - 69 Thunder_Dragonbane: 86 - 73 Cpt_Micha: 80 - 79 KillerGM: 66 - 93
#189 dirtyfrank Nov 22, 2011 0:15:42	Week 12 THU, NOV 24 Green Bay at Detroit Miami at Dallas San Francisco at Baltimore SUN, NOV 27 Houston at Jacksonville Buffalo at NY Jets Cleveland at Cincinnati Minnesota at Atlanta Arizona at St. Louis Carolina at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at Tennessee Chicago at Oakland Washington at Seattle Denver at San Diego New England at Philadelphia Pittsburgh at Kansas City MON, NOV 28      NY Giants at New Orleans This is that thanksgiving week where there is an early game. The cut off will be 10 pm pst Wednesday. Same time Saturday for the other picks of the week.
#190 dirtyfrank Nov 22, 2011 0:30:17	Green Bay at Detroit Miami at Dallas San Francisco at Baltimore Houston at Jacksonville Buffalo at NY Jets Cleveland at Cincinnati Minnesota at Atlanta Arizona at St. Louis Carolina at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at Tennessee Chicago at Oakland Washington at Seattle Denver at San Diego New England at Philadelphia Pittsburgh at Kansas City     NY Giants at New Orleans I feel like this is probably the week that GB and SF could get defeated, but they just seem to be doing too well to lose some steam. Both the lions and the ravens have been doing well. The ravens are yet to lose a game at home this season. I'm stilling going with GB and SF though. My gut is kinda telling me to vote for the home team in both of those games though...
#191 Cpt_Micha Nov 22, 2011 7:49:47	Week 12 THU, NOV 24  Green Bay at Detroit  Miami at Dallas  San Francisco at Baltimore SUN, NOV 27 Houston at Jacksonville  Buffalo at NY Jets Cleveland at Cincinnati  Minnesota at Atlanta  Arizona at St. Louis  Carolina at Indianapolis  Tampa Bay at Tennessee Chicago at Oakland  Washington at Seattle  Denver at San Diego  New England at Philadelphia  Pittsburgh at Kansas City  MON, NOV 28      NY Giants at New Orleans Now that I pretty much have 0 chance at making come back I'm just going to pick teams that I want to win. Detroit Dallas 49ers Houston Jets Cinci Atlanta Arizona Carolina Tennessee Oakland Redskins Denver Patriots Steelers Saints.
#192 zombie_babies Nov 22, 2011 9:01:28	THU, NOV 24 Green Bay at Detroit Miami at Dallas San Francisco at Baltimore SUN, NOV 27 Houston at Jacksonville Buffalo at NY Jets Cleveland at Cincinnati Minnesota at Atlanta Arizona at St. Louis Carolina at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at Tennessee Chicago at Oakland Washington at Seattle Denver at San Diego New England at Philadelphia Pittsburgh at Kansas City MON, NOV 28      NY Giants at New Orleans Blech.  Don't like a few picks there.  GB could lose to the Lions, I guess, but they aren't really disciplined enough yet.  Still, one bad week by Rodgers against a good week by Stafford and megatron means a loss.  The GB secondary has played one good game so far ... against the Vikings.  And they have a bad game against those same Vikings, too.  Dallas is still Romo-y and Miami is on a tear somehow.  Meh.  Baltimore's D is good, but I think SF's is better and that's the difference here.  Plus I think Gore is better than Rice.  Flacco can be better than Smith, but he can also be worse.  I guess it's gonna come down to Flacco, then.  And I can't trust him. I don't wanna pick the Texans with Schaub out but the Jags are terrible.  Not even smart enough to run MJD against the Browns on third and goal for the win.  I hate picking the Jets but the Bills seem to have imploded.  Could be due for a win, though.  The Browns will not beat the Bengals (since I said that, they will so pick 'em ).  Atlanta is one I'm ok with, too.  Carolina at Indy ... Cam is good but he's also bad and I just don't think the Colts will lose every game.  That said, I haven't followed the Colts that much (cuz they suck) and Cam is really dynamic - more dynamic than the entirety of the current Colts roster.  Tampa just played GB pretty well so I gotta go with them.  And, you know, Tennessee.  Chicago at Oakland is interesting.  I don't think the Raiders have put it together enough to beat the Bears D so, even without Cutler I have to go Chicago.  Still, I don't like it.  Washington at Seattle ... well, the Hawks beat the Ravens at home so ... I dunno.  And yes, I know I'm picking against the 4 and 1 Tebow one in an open air stadium.  I guess I'm not ready to return to god just yet.  The Bolts completely falling apart doesn't help my confidence much, though.  New England against Philly is interesting cuz NE's D is not very good and Philly can have an explosive O.  Still, NE.  I think Pittsburgh has figured it out and their recent defensive stats bear hat out.  I hate Eli enough that I have to pick against him ... especially after losing to Vince Young.  Could be wrong, though, since the NO D is not great.
#193 draco1119 Nov 22, 2011 17:12:35	Week 12 THU, NOV 24 Green Bay at Detroit  - This might be the best chance any team has of beating GB in the regular season Miami at Dallas San Francisco at Baltimore SUN, NOV 27 Houston at Jacksonville - MJD is from one of the greatest HS football programs EVER, but Houston is going to easily win the AFC South Buffalo at NY Jets Cleveland at Cincinnati Minnesota at Atlanta Arizona at St. Louis Carolina at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at Tennessee Chicago at Oakland Washington at Seattle - Like I said, I'll always pick Seattle at home against an equally atrocious team Denver at San Diego - It's not so much that I'm betting for Tebow as betting against SD in the last half of the season (ask grehnhewe what I mean by that ) New England at Philadelphia Pittsburgh at Kansas City MON, NOV 28      NY Giants at New Orleans
#194 dirtyfrank Nov 22, 2011 17:32:02	San Francisco at Baltimore - This pick is contingent on Ray Lewis playing.  If he doesn't, I pick SF.  (Can I do that, DF?) Only if it is determined whether or not he'll play by Wednesday or else it will be a change past deadline and I'm not going to pay attention to exactly what players play and junk. So either just pick a team and stick with it or hope they announce if they're playing on Wednesday.
#195 draco1119 Nov 22, 2011 18:45:59	San Francisco at Baltimore - This pick is contingent on Ray Lewis playing.  If he doesn't, I pick SF.  (Can I do that, DF?) Only if it is determined whether or not he'll play by Wednesday or else it will be a change past deadline and I'm not going to pay attention to exactly what players play and junk. So either just pick a team and stick with it or hope they announce if they're playing on Wednesday. Chances are less than 50/50 that he'll even see limited play.  I'm going with SF (and my original pick list reflects it).
#196 grehnhewe Nov 22, 2011 19:15:59	Week 12 THU, NOV 24 Green Bay Miami San Francisco SUN, NOV 27 Houston  NY Jets Cincinnati  Atlanta  St. Louis Carolina Tampa Bay Oakland  Seattle  San Diego New England Pittsburgh MON, NOV 28      New Orleans
#197 jetshield Nov 23, 2011 10:04:10	Week 12 THU, NOV 24 Green Bay at Detroit Miami at Dallas San Francisco at Baltimore SUN, NOV 27 Houston at Jacksonville Buffalo at NY Jets Cleveland at Cincinnati Minnesota at Atlanta Arizona at St. Louis Carolina at Indianapolis Tampa Bay at Tennessee Chicago at Oakland Washington at Seattle Denver at San Diego New England at Philadelphia Pittsburgh at Kansas City MON, NOV 28      NY Giants at New Orleans
#198 draco1119 Nov 25, 2011 15:23:15	Edited a couple of picks.  I'm going with STL at home over the former STL, and there's no way a Cutler-less Bears, led by a rookie, is going to escape The Black Hole.
#199 dirtyfrank Nov 29, 2011 7:57:46	Week 12 Results dirtyfrank: 14 - 2 Cpt_Micha: 14 - 2 Jetshield: 12 - 4 Zombie_Babies: 12 - 4 draco1119: 11 - 5 grehnhewe: 10 - 6 Thunder_Dragonbane: 9 - 7 KillerGM: 8 - 8 Season Results Thus Far dirtyfrank: 117 - 58 Jetshield: 113 - 62 Zombie_Babies: 112 - 63 draco1119: 106 - 69 grehnhewe: 100 - 75 Thunder_Dragonbane: 95 - 80 Cpt_Micha: 94 - 81 KillerGM: 74 - 101
#200 dirtyfrank Nov 29, 2011 8:04:22	Week 13 THU, DEC 1 Philadelphia at Seattle SUN, DEC 4      Carolina at Tampa Bay Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Atlanta at Houston NY Jets at Washington Indianapolis at New England Oakland at Miami Denver at Minnesota Tennessee at Buffalo Kansas City at Chicago Baltimore at Cleveland Dallas at Arizona Green Bay at NY Giants St. Louis at San Francisco Detroit at New Orleans MON, DEC 5 San Diego at Jacksonville Same rules for submitting picks for thursdays that we've been with.
#201 zombie_babies Nov 29, 2011 9:56:26	Week 13 THU, DEC 1 Philadelphia at Seattle SUN, DEC 4      Carolina at Tampa Bay Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Atlanta at Houston NY Jets at Washington Indianapolis at New England Oakland at Miami Denver at Minnesota Tennessee at Buffalo Kansas City at Chicago Baltimore at Cleveland Dallas at Arizona Green Bay at NY Giants St. Louis at San Francisco Detroit at New Orleans MON, DEC 5 San Diego at Jacksonville More ugly stuff.  I really wanted to ride the Tebow train - cuz it's the sane thing to do in this case - but it's under the roof in Minn.  Tebow can't talk to the man upstairs if there's a roof in the way.    Hanie sucks but I think da Bears at home are better than his suck.  Cleveland seems close to their standard once a year shock win.  Almost did it to Cincy.  And Hillis and Hardesty are back.  Still, it's the Browns against the Ravens.  Er, though the Ravens can stink it up on the road.  Meh.
#202 grehnhewe Nov 29, 2011 17:50:22	San Diego at Jacksonville = SD. Only because the Jacksonville coach just got fired. I wish Norv Turner would get fired.
#203 grehnhewe Nov 29, 2011 19:45:07	I wish Norv Turner would get fired. He deserves it. Course I like to see Rivers cry so I'm ok if he doesn't. Overrated is putting it mildly. I am pretty sure Norv is done for after this season.  I used to like Rivers before he threw more picks than touchdowns.  He is also a big part of the problem, and I don't think it would make any difference if he had time to chant a psalm after the snap like some QBs. Go Niners!
#204 draco1119 Nov 29, 2011 20:18:22	Week 13 THU, DEC 1 Philadelphia at Seattle I still have faith in The 12th Man SUN, DEC 4      Carolina at Tampa Bay They both suck.  But the Cats suck harder. Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Atlanta at Houston  Has anyone actually seen the Texans record this year?!  :omg!: NY Jets at Washington  I think the Skins might actually manage to suck harder than the Jets road record... Indianapolis at New England  Ummm... yeah... Oakland at Miami Denver at Minnesota  The Vikes are worse than a Godless Tebow. Tennessee at Buffalo Kansas City at Chicago  I think hope that even a Cutler-less Bears team can beat the Chiefs at Soldier Field. Baltimore at Cleveland Dallas at Arizona    That is all. Green Bay at NY Giants St. Louis at San Francisco Detroit at New Orleans  The Manbeastchild has been suspended for two. MON, DEC 5 San Diego at Jacksonville  It's that time of year: the San Diego Skidmarks.
#205 dirtyfrank Nov 29, 2011 22:48:07	Philadelphia at Seattle      Carolina at Tampa Bay Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Atlanta at Houston NY Jets at Washington Indianapolis at New England Oakland at Miami Denver at Minnesota Tennessee at Buffalo Kansas City at Chicago Baltimore at Cleveland Dallas at Arizona Green Bay at NY Giants St. Louis at San Francisco Detroit at New Orleans San Diego at Jacksonville
#206 jetshield Nov 30, 2011 20:20:19	Week 13 THU, DEC 1 Philadelphia at Seattle SUN, DEC 4      Carolina at Tampa Bay Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Atlanta at Houston NY Jets at Washington Indianapolis at New England Oakland at Miami Denver at Minnesota Tennessee at Buffalo Kansas City at Chicago Baltimore at Cleveland Dallas at Arizona Green Bay at NY Giants St. Louis at San Francisco Detroit at New Orleans MON, DEC 5 San Diego at Jacksonville
#207 grehnhewe Nov 30, 2011 20:27:24	Week 13 THU, DEC 1 Philadelphia SUN, DEC 4      Tampa Bay Pittsburgh Houston NY Jets New England Oakland Minnesota Buffalo Chicago Baltimore Dallas Green Bay San Francisco  New Orleans MON, DEC 5 San Diego
#208 Cpt_Micha Dec 01, 2011 7:40:40	Week 13 THU, DEC 1  Philadelphia at Seattle  SUN, DEC 4      Carolina at Tampa Bay Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Atlanta at Houston NY Jets at Washington Indianapolis at New England Oakland at Miami Denver at Minnesota Tennessee at Buffalo Kansas City at Chicago Baltimore at Cleveland Dallas at Arizona  Green Bay at NY Giants St. Louis at San Francisco  Detroit at New Orleans  MON, DEC 5  San Diego at Jacksonville Philly Carolina Honestly Tampa is that bad. The Cats at least can look good when they decide to give a damn Cinci Houstan... sure their QB is a liability... but it's not Fatlanta Washington New England Oakland Denver Buffalo Kansas Ravens Dallas Greenbay San Fransisco Saints San Diego
#209 dirtyfrank Dec 06, 2011 9:35:30	I'm a bit busy today. I wont be able to update for a couple more hours.
#210 zombie_babies Dec 06, 2011 12:50:00	That's kewl.  I bricked these last ones anyway.
#211 dirtyfrank Dec 06, 2011 19:41:22	OK so it seems I was a bit busier than expected. Working on it right now and stuff.
#212 dirtyfrank Dec 06, 2011 23:23:14	Week 13 Results dirtyfrank: 10 - 6 Cpt_Micha: 10 - 6 draco1119: 10 - 6 grehnhewe: 9 - 7 Jetshield: 9 - 7 Zombie_Babies: 8 - 8 Thunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8 KillerGM: 8 - 8 Season Results Thus Far dirtyfrank: 127 - 64 Jetshield: 122 - 69 Zombie_Babies: 120 - 71 draco1119: 116 - 75 grehnhewe: 109 - 82 Cpt_Micha: 104 - 87 Thunder_Dragonbane: 103 - 88 KillerGM: 82 - 109
#213 dirtyfrank Dec 06, 2011 23:30:21	For some reasons the code in the OP is borked. I can't find something wrong with syntax so it seems like it has to be part of the hidden code junk stuff that always lurks with html and how horrible it is.
#214 dirtyfrank Dec 06, 2011 23:56:30	Week 14 THU, DEC 8      Cleveland at Pittsburgh SUN, DEC 11 Kansas City at NY Jets Tampa Bay at Jacksonville New England at Washington Atlanta at Carolina Indianapolis at Baltimore Philadelphia at Miami Minnesota at Detroit New Orleans at Tennessee Houston at Cincinnati Chicago at Denver San Francisco at Arizona Buffalo at San Diego Oakland at Green Bay NY Giants at Dallas MON, DEC 12 St. Louis at Seattle
#215 Cpt_Micha Dec 07, 2011 7:28:55	THU, DEC 8      Cleveland at Pittsburgh SUN, DEC 11  Kansas City at NY Jets  Tampa Bay at Jacksonville  New England at Washington Atlanta at Carolina Indianapolis at Baltimore Philadelphia at Miami Minnesota at Detroit New Orleans at Tennessee Houston at Cincinnati Chicago at Denver San Francisco at Arizona Buffalo at San Diego Oakland at Green Bay NY Giants at Dallas MON, DEC 12 St. Louis at Seattle Steelers Kansas Jacksonville Patriots Fatlanta Baltimore Miami Detroit Saints Cinci Denver San Fran San Diego Green Bay Dallas Seattle
#216 zombie_babies Dec 07, 2011 8:22:57	THU, DEC 8      Cleveland at Pittsburgh SUN, DEC 11 Kansas City at NY Jets Tampa Bay at Jacksonville New England at Washington Atlanta at Carolina Indianapolis at Baltimore Philadelphia at Miami Minnesota at Detroit New Orleans at Tennessee Houston at Cincinnati Chicago at Denver San Francisco at Arizona Buffalo at San Diego Oakland at Green Bay NY Giants at Dallas MON, DEC 12 St. Louis at Seattle Ugh.  Can't believe I picked the Tebow One.  That means he'll lose, though.    Still, no Cutler, no Forte and a lot of Hanie means an 'L', IMO.  I honestly had a hard time takin' Atlanta, too.  Cam can just take over a game.  I hate picking Miami, too, but I'm pretty damned sure Philly is done.  Don't like takin' Cincy either but meh.  And Buffalo at SD?  Damn, it's not about pickin' a winner, it's about decidin' who's completely imploded and who is a game away.  Blech.  Giants/Boys should be good.  With how well NY played the Pack, I gotta go with them.  And yeah, that's it.
#217 draco1119 Dec 07, 2011 9:42:10	THU, DEC 8      Cleveland at Pittsburgh SUN, DEC 11  Kansas City at NY Jets  Tampa Bay at Jacksonville  New England at Washington Atlanta at Carolina Indianapolis at Baltimore Philadelphia at Miami Minnesota at Detroit New Orleans at Tennessee Houston at Cincinnati Chicago at Denver San Francisco at Arizona Buffalo at San Diego Oakland at Green Bay NY Giants at Dallas MON, DEC 12 St. Louis at Seattle No one else has faith in the San Diego Skid? EDIT: Dammit, I forgot that MJD plays for J-Ville.  You guys really should check out the high school he went to...
#218 dirtyfrank Dec 07, 2011 10:10:21	Cleveland at Pittsburgh Kansas City at NY Jets Tampa Bay at Jacksonville New England at Washington Atlanta at Carolina Indianapolis at Baltimore Philadelphia at Miami Minnesota at Detroit New Orleans at Tennessee Houston at Cincinnati Chicago at Denver San Francisco at Arizona Buffalo at San Diego Oakland at Green Bay NY Giants at Dallas St. Louis at Seattle No one else has faith in the San Diego Skid? SD showed us that they can still win. Bills only win at home.
#219 jetshield Dec 07, 2011 10:40:03	Week 14 THU, DEC 8      Cleveland at Pittsburgh SUN, DEC 11 Kansas City at NY Jets Tampa Bay at Jacksonville New England at Washington Atlanta at Carolina Indianapolis at Baltimore Philadelphia at Miami Minnesota at Detroit New Orleans at Tennessee Houston at Cincinnati Chicago at Denver San Francisco at Arizona Buffalo at San Diego Oakland at Green Bay NY Giants at Dallas MON, DEC 12 St. Louis at Seattle
#220 zombie_babies Dec 07, 2011 11:48:53	No one else has faith in the San Diego Skid? I do but I have more faith in Buffalo's fail. Like previously stated I like to watch Rivers cry when he loses. BTW why is SD / Seabirds a MNF game? The MNF games are supposed to be good. Schedules are made like 6 months prior to the season.  Six months before the season, people still thought SD was good and that the Seahawks were ... uhh, I dunno.  I guess they did make the playoffs and they did beat the Saints.  It sorta made sense.
#221 grehnhewe Dec 07, 2011 19:19:40	THU, DEC 8      Pittsburgh SUN, DEC 11  NY Jets Tampa Bay New England Carolina Baltimore Miami Detroit New Orleans Houston Denver San Francisco San Diego Green Bay Dallas MON, DEC 12 Seattle If you see Rivers crying, it will be because of my voodoo doll.  I also hate myself for picking Denver...Tebow
#222 Cpt_Micha Dec 08, 2011 20:07:23	ya'll just bomb a couple more weekends :-p I'm on my way back up!
#223 draco1119 Dec 08, 2011 23:20:54	Out of curiosity, are we going to do a playoff for the playoffs?  We could take the scores at the end of the year, create the top 6 seeds, and have them play through the playoffs.  Or something...
#224 dirtyfrank Dec 09, 2011 0:39:07	Sure we could do something like that.
#225 dirtyfrank Dec 13, 2011 15:13:33	Week 14 Results draco1119: 13 - 3 dirtyfrank: 12 - 4 Zombie_Babies: 12 - 4 Cpt_Micha: 11 - 5 grehnhewe: 11 - 5 Jetshield: 11- 5 Thunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8 KillerGM: 6 - 10 Season Results Thus Far dirtyfrank: 139 - 68 Jetshield: 133 - 74 Zombie_Babies: 132 - 75 draco1119: 129 - 78 grehnhewe: 120 - 87 Cpt_Micha: 115 - 92 Thunder_Dragonbane: 111 - 96 KillerGM: 88 - 119
#226 dirtyfrank Dec 13, 2011 15:19:50	Week 15 THU, DEC 15 Jacksonville at Atlanta SAT, DEC 17 Dallas at Tampa Bay SUN, DEC 18 Carolina at Houston Washington at NY Giants Miami at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago New Orleans at Minnesota Cincinnati at St. Louis Tennessee at Indianapolis Green Bay at Kansas City Detroit at Oakland New England at Denver NY Jets at Philadelphia Cleveland at Arizona Baltimore at San Diego MON, DEC 19 Pittsburgh at San Francisco
#227 zombie_babies Dec 13, 2011 15:29:28	THU, DEC 15 Jacksonville at Atlanta SAT, DEC 17 Dallas at Tampa Bay SUN, DEC 18 Carolina at Houston Washington at NY Giants Miami at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago New Orleans at Minnesota Cincinnati at St. Louis Tennessee at Indianapolis Green Bay at Kansas City Detroit at Oakland New England at Denver NY Jets at Philadelphia Cleveland at Arizona Baltimore at San Diego MON, DEC 19 Pittsburgh at San Francisco I've got some ugly ones in there, that's for sure.  Don't like takin' the Texans but they're doin' ok without Schaub.  Never like pickin' Eli.  Pickin' Buffalo is dumb but I have faith that they'll beat the coachless Fish.  Really don't like pickin' the Hanies, but I think the D will rally after blowin' it against the Tebows.  Indy is due and this is winnable, IMO, but you have to pick against an o-fer, right?  I think Detroit has a lot to play for but so do tha Raidas.  Thing is, both QBs are interception machines and I just like Detroit better for some reason (I don't like 'em, I just like 'em for this game).  I finally got a W after switchin' to the Tebow side, but I don't think Billy B or Tommy B believe in god.  At least I think they believe in themselves a lot more.  Jets vs Philly sucks.  Under normal circumstances I'd be comfortable but ya can't count on the Eagles not quitting.  Meh.  The Browns could beat the Cards but ... they are the Browns.  Baltimore is just itchin' to lose this - I can feel it.  But the Chargers are just not good.  And the Steelers are really banged up and SF has really good D.  I just think that - even banged up - the Pittsburgh O can handle it.  This is a really good test game for SF, too.  We'll see where they are, I think. EDIT: Just realized my text did not match my picks.  I had meant to select Arizona as the winner and chose the Browns instead.  I've made the correction.  My bad, ya'all. EDIT2: Just saw I messed up another one.  What the hell is wrong with me this week?  Corrected.
#228 dirtyfrank Dec 13, 2011 15:31:53	Jacksonville at Atlanta Dallas at Tampa Bay Carolina at Houston Washington at NY Giants Miami at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago New Orleans at Minnesota Cincinnati at St. Louis Tennessee at Indianapolis Green Bay at Kansas City Detroit at Oakland New England at Denver NY Jets at Philadelphia Cleveland at Arizona Baltimore at San Diego Pittsburgh at San Francisco
#229 draco1119 Dec 14, 2011 18:04:09	Holy Christ!  I almost forgot! Week 15 THU, DEC 15 Jacksonville at Atlanta SAT, DEC 17 Dallas at Tampa Bay SUN, DEC 18 Carolina at Houston Washington at NY Giants Miami at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago New Orleans at Minnesota Cincinnati at St. Louis Tennessee at Indianapolis Green Bay at Kansas City Detroit at Oakland New England at Denver NY Jets at Philadelphia Cleveland at Arizona Baltimore at San Diego MON, DEC 19 Pittsburgh at San Francisco Jets/Eagles = Which Team Is the Big Green Suck Machine?  I think AZ iwill suffer a letdown after beating the 9ers, and I think SF is going to take it out on a Harrsion-less Steelers D.
#230 grehnhewe Dec 14, 2011 19:24:35	Week 15 THU, DEC 15 Atlanta SAT, DEC 17 Dallas SUN, DEC 18 Houston NY Giants Buffalo Chicago New Orleans Cincinnati Tennessee Green Bay Oakland New England NY Jets Arizona San Diego MON, DEC 19  San Francisco
#231 dirtyfrank Dec 14, 2011 20:30:52	I'm starting to wonder if a couple of you guys are going to miss a pick or two by being lazy on posting up picks.
#232 Cpt_Micha Dec 14, 2011 22:42:01	Week 15 THU, DEC 15 Jacksonville at Atlanta   Jacksonville SAT, DEC 17 Dallas at Tampa Bay      Dallas SUN, DEC 18 Carolina at Houston      Houstan Washington at NY Giants   Giants Miami at Buffalo                Miami... dear god I just picked Miami Seattle at Chicago               Bears New Orleans at Minnesota  Saints Cincinnati at St. Louis          Cinci Tennessee at Indianapolis   Tenn. Green Bay at Kansas City     Green Bay Detroit at Oakland                 Detroit New England at Denver        Damnit... uh um.. Denver! NY Jets at Philadelphia         Jets Cleveland at Arizona            Cleveland Baltimore at San Diego        Baltimore MON, DEC 19  Pittsburgh at San Francisco            Pittsburgh
#233 jetshield Dec 14, 2011 23:13:10	Week 15 THU, DEC 15 Jacksonville at Atlanta SAT, DEC 17 Dallas at Tampa Bay SUN, DEC 18 Carolina at Houston Washington at NY Giants Miami at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago New Orleans at Minnesota Cincinnati at St. Louis Tennessee at Indianapolis Green Bay at Kansas City Detroit at Oakland New England at Denver NY Jets at Philadelphia Cleveland at Arizona Baltimore at San Diego MON, DEC 19 Pittsburgh at San Francisco
#234 grehnhewe Dec 18, 2011 16:25:47	Ugh!....my worst week yet
#235 dirtyfrank Dec 18, 2011 19:14:41	bummer. I forgot to make my last couple of picks before going out drinking last night.
#236 draco1119 Dec 18, 2011 19:33:17	Ugh!....my worst week yet With the GB, NYG, and Indy games, I'm not sure that anyone's going to do better than 8-8 this week...
#237 dirtyfrank Dec 18, 2011 19:42:12	Ugh!....my worst week yet With the GB, NYG, and Indy games, I'm not sure that anyone's going to do better than 8-8 this week...  W. T. F?!?!?!?!?!
#238 draco1119 Dec 18, 2011 20:18:39	And that's before bringing up Da Bears...
#239 zombie_babies Dec 19, 2011 9:46:05	Yeah, this week hurt.  And it changes stuff, too.  Since the perfect season is gone, GB only needs one win instead of trying to win out.  Interesting.  Oh, and there's some 2 win teams out there that the Colts will need to be careful not to do better than.
#240 Cpt_Micha Dec 19, 2011 12:01:48	How dare Carolina win. I was making my comeback! For **** Sake. This was a horrible week in picks. I didn't watch the games or get the scores all yet.. but I can already tell off the few I do know...
#241 dirtyfrank Dec 20, 2011 9:56:33	Week 15 Results draco1119: 9 - 7 KillerGM: 9 - 7 Zombie_Babies: 8 - 8 grehnhewe: 8 - 8 Jetshield: 8- 8 dirtyfrank: 7 - 9 Thunder_Dragonbane: 6 - 10 Cpt_Micha: 5 - 11 Season Results Thus Far dirtyfrank: 146 - 77 Jetshield: 141 - 82 Zombie_Babies: 140 - 83 draco1119: 138 - 85 grehnhewe: 128 - 95 Cpt_Micha: 120 - 103 Thunder_Dragonbane: 117 - 106 KillerGM: 97 - 126
#242 dirtyfrank Dec 20, 2011 10:01:02	Week 16 THU, DEC 22 Houston at Indianapolis SAT, DEC 24 Oakland at Kansas City Jacksonville at Tennessee Miami at New England Arizona at Cincinnati Denver at Buffalo St. Louis at Pittsburgh NY Giants at NY Jets Minnesota at Washington Tampa Bay at Carolina Cleveland at Baltimore San Diego at Detroit Philadelphia at Dallas San Francisco at Seattle SUN, DEC 25 Chicago at Green Bay MON, DEC 26 Atlanta at New Orleans
#243 zombie_babies Dec 20, 2011 10:09:18	THU, DEC 22 Houston at Indianapolis SAT, DEC 24 Oakland at Kansas City Jacksonville at Tennessee Miami at New England Arizona at Cincinnati Denver at Buffalo St. Louis at Pittsburgh NY Giants at NY Jets Minnesota at Washington Tampa Bay at Carolina Cleveland at Baltimore San Diego at Detroit Philadelphia at Dallas San Francisco at Seattle SUN, DEC 25 Chicago at Green Bay MON, DEC 26 Atlanta at New Orleans More tough picks.  I hate choosin' the Tebow one but he's burnt me too many damn times.    Giants/Jets is a toss up cuz both can be awesome and both can suck hard.  Still, Eli is better than Sanchise.  At least this year anyway.  I don't like takin' Detroit over SD but oh well.  Philly/Dallas is interesting and I think Philly is gonna end the disaster strong.  Finally coming together or something.  And I really, really hate to admit that pickin' against the Sea Birds at home is tough but it is.  San Fran doesn't have that far to travel, though, and their D is way, way better than Seattle's O - even with Beast Mode.  Chicago is done and so are GB's hopes for a perfect season - but GB still needs to win one to guarantee homefield throughout, I believe.  This is that one.  Atlanta's comin' back up but NO is really dangerous.  At home, I don't think the Saints will lose this one - especially since they could possibly catch GB.  It's gettin' interestin', folks.
#244 draco1119 Dec 20, 2011 13:41:50	THU, DEC 22 Houston at Indianapolis SAT, DEC 24 Oakland at Kansas City Jacksonville at Tennessee Miami at New England Arizona at Cincinnati Denver at Buffalo St. Louis at Pittsburgh NY Giants at NY Jets Minnesota at Washington Tampa Bay at Carolina Cleveland at Baltimore San Diego at Detroit Philadelphia at Dallas San Francisco at Seattle SUN, DEC 25 Chicago at Green Bay MON, DEC 26 Atlanta at New Orleans And I really, really hate to admit that pickin' against the Sea Birds at home is tough but it is.  San Fran doesn't have that far to travel, though, and their D is way, way better than Seattle's O - even with Beast Mode. I finally sold you on the Twelfth Man, huh?  And, yeah... ugly picks all around this week...
#245 Cpt_Micha Dec 20, 2011 13:58:37	THU, DEC 22  Houston at Indianapolis            Houstan. SAT, DEC 24 Oakland at Kansas City             Kanas Jacksonville at Tennessee         Tennessee Miami at New England               Patriots Arizona at Cincinnati                 Cinci Denver at Buffalo                      Denver St. Louis at Pittsburgh              Steelers NY Giants at NY Jets                  Giants Minnesota at Washington         Washington Tampa Bay at Carolina             Panthers Cleveland at Baltimore             Baltimore San Diego at Detroit                Detroit Philadelphia at Dallas              Dallas San Francisco at Seattle          San Fran SUN, DEC 25 Chicago at Green Bay              Green Bay MON, DEC 26 Atlanta at New Orleans             Saints It's not like I have any chance at winning. I'm not going to do research on point spreads etc in the last games. There you go. Who I -want- to win.
#246 zombie_babies Dec 20, 2011 14:14:42	I never did much research.  Just sorta figured for myself after following the results week in and out and listening and reading to analysis - which I'd do anyway.  I only listen when the games are on and I read a lot about football anyway.  Mostly, though, it's a feel thing.
#247 grehnhewe Dec 21, 2011 19:45:36	Week 16 THU, DEC 22 Houston SAT, DEC 24 Kansas City Tennessee New England Cincinnati Buffalo Pittsburgh NY Giants Washington  Carolina Baltimore San Diego Dallas San Francisco SUN, DEC 25 Green Bay MON, DEC 26 New Orleans
#248 jetshield Dec 22, 2011 2:14:14	Week 16 THU, DEC 22 Houston at Indianapolis SAT, DEC 24 Oakland at Kansas City Jacksonville at Tennessee Miami at New England Arizona at Cincinnati Denver at Buffalo St. Louis at Pittsburgh NY Giants at NY Jets Minnesota at Washington Tampa Bay at Carolina Cleveland at Baltimore San Diego at Detroit Philadelphia at Dallas San Francisco at Seattle SUN, DEC 25 Chicago at Green Bay MON, DEC 26 Atlanta at New Orleans
#249 dirtyfrank Dec 22, 2011 3:12:19	Houston at Indianapolis Oakland at Kansas City Jacksonville at Tennessee Miami at New England Arizona at Cincinnati Denver at Buffalo St. Louis at Pittsburgh NY Giants at NY Jets Minnesota at Washington Tampa Bay at Carolina Cleveland at Baltimore San Diego at Detroit Philadelphia at Dallas San Francisco at Seattle Chicago at Green Bay Atlanta at New Orleans
#250 dirtyfrank Dec 27, 2011 11:46:11	Week 16 Results Zombie_Babies: 13 - 3 dirtyfrank: 13 - 3 grehnhewe: 11 - 5 Jetshield: 11 - 5 Thunder_Dragonbane: 11 - 5 Cpt_Micha: 11 - 5 draco1119: 9 - 7 KillerGM: 5 - 11 Season Results Thus Far dirtyfrank: 159 - 80 Zombie_Babies: 153 - 86 Jetshield: 152 - 87 draco1119: 147 - 92 grehnhewe: 139 - 100 Cpt_Micha: 131 - 108 Thunder_Dragonbane: 128 - 111 KillerGM: 102 - 137
#251 dirtyfrank Dec 27, 2011 11:49:07	Week 17 SUN, JAN 1 Carolina at New Orleans Buffalo at New England Chicago at Minnesota NY Jets at Miami San Francisco at St. Louis Detroit at Green Bay Washington at Philadelphia Indianapolis at Jacksonville Tennessee at Houston Seattle at Arizona Kansas City at Denver Tampa Bay at Atlanta Baltimore at Cincinnati Pittsburgh at Cleveland San Diego at Oakland Dallas at NY Giants
#252 Cpt_Micha Dec 27, 2011 11:53:23	SUN, JAN 1 Carolina at New Orleans  Saints Buffalo at New England    New England Chicago at Minnesota       Chicago NY Jets at Miami                Jets San Francisco at St. Louis  San Fran Detroit at Green Bay           Detroit Washington at Philadelphia  Washington Indianapolis at Jacksonville   Jacksonville Tennessee at Houston          Tennessee Seattle at Arizona                Seattle Kansas City at Denver          Denver Tampa Bay at Atlanta           Fatlanta Baltimore at Cincinnati         Tough game, should be fun to watch. Cinci Pittsburgh at Cleveland       Steelers San Diego at Oakland         Chargers Dallas at NY Giants              Dallas
#253 zombie_babies Dec 27, 2011 11:58:57	SUN, JAN 1 Carolina at New Orleans Buffalo at New England Chicago at Minnesota NY Jets at Miami San Francisco at St. Louis Detroit at Green Bay Washington at Philadelphia Indianapolis at Jacksonville Tennessee at Houston Seattle at Arizona Kansas City at Denver Tampa Bay at Atlanta Baltimore at Cincinnati Pittsburgh at Cleveland San Diego at Oakland Dallas at NY Giants   I had to pick against the Pack.  With homefield throughout locked up, Brees breakin' Dan's record and literally no reason to play any starters, though, I have to take a purposefully depleted Pack to lose against a very motivated Detroit.  Boo.  I wanted to get off the Tebow train but couldn't do it.  Meh, it's almost over and I did ok.  Yay.
#254 draco1119 Dec 28, 2011 17:44:45	Week 17 SUN, JAN 1 Carolina at New Orleans Buffalo at New England Chicago at Minnesota  Christ.  Both teams are so banged-up it doesn't matter.  NY Jets at Miami San Francisco at St. Louis Detroit at Green Bay Washington at Philadelphia Indianapolis at Jacksonville Tennessee at Houston Seattle at Arizona Kansas City at Denver Tampa Bay at Atlanta Baltimore at Cincinnati  Pittsburgh at Cleveland These AFC North games are gonna make life interesting.  If BLT wins, they win the division.  If they lose, the Bengals make the playoffs, and PITT wins the division if they beat the Browns.  San Diego at Oakland Dallas at NY Giants
#255 dirtyfrank Dec 30, 2011 13:55:21	Carolina at New Orleans Buffalo at New England Chicago at Minnesota NY Jets at Miami San Francisco at St. Louis Detroit at Green Bay Washington at Philadelphia Indianapolis at Jacksonville Tennessee at Houston Seattle at Arizona Kansas City at Denver Tampa Bay at Atlanta Baltimore at Cincinnati Pittsburgh at Cleveland San Diego at Oakland Dallas at NY Giants
#256 jetshield Dec 31, 2011 5:45:58	Week 17 Carolina at New Orleans Buffalo at New England Chicago at Minnesota NY Jets at Miami San Francisco at St. Louis Detroit at Green Bay Washington at Philadelphia Indianapolis at Jacksonville Tennessee at Houston Seattle at Arizona Kansas City at Denver Tampa Bay at Atlanta Baltimore at Cincinnati Pittsburgh at Cleveland San Diego at Oakland Dallas at NY Giants
#257 grehnhewe Dec 31, 2011 10:31:49	Week 17 SUN, JAN 1 New Orleans New England Minnesota Miami San Francisco  Green Bay  Philadelphia  Jacksonville  Houston  Arizona Kansas City  Atlanta Baltimore Pittsburgh San Diego NY Giants
#258 dirtyfrank Jan 02, 2012 20:44:12	Week 17 Results grehnhewe: 14 - 2 Zombie_Babies: 11 - 5 dirtyfrank: 10 - 6 Thunder_Dragonbane: 10 - 6 Cpt_Micha: 9 - 7 draco1119: 9 - 7 Jetshield: 7 - 9 KillerGM: 6 - 10 The Football seasons is finally over and here are the season results! Season Results dirtyfrank: 169 - 86 Zombie_Babies: 164 - 91 Jetshield: 159 - 96 draco1119: 156 - 99 grehnhewe: 153 - 102 Cpt_Micha: 140 - 115 Thunder_Dragonbane: 138 - 117 KillerGM: 108 - 147 I'm thinking of extending this into the playoffs, but instead of adding onto this it would be everyone starts at zero and then we just do the same thing. So we'll have a season picks winner and a playoffs picks winner. What do you guys think? With that said it was fun picking games with you guys. Lets try and remember to do this again next year/season. EDIT: I noticed that all the scores are off 1 game. During the next few days, if nobody else does it before I do, I'm going to try and find at which week that happened and make the correction.
#259 grehnhewe Jan 03, 2012 7:49:05	I'm down for a playoff game! Congratualtions to dirtyfrank for earning the bragging rights, and thanks to you for taking all the time to run the game. Early on I realised that I would not win, so my goal was to at least win one week.  14-2, heck yeah!
#260 zombie_babies Jan 03, 2012 9:48:13	Yeah, let's do this playoff thang!  And let's do this again next year!  Anyone wanna do an MLB picks contest?
#261 grehnhewe Jan 03, 2012 18:29:48	Anyone wanna do an MLB picks contest?  Yeah...about as much as you would want to do a Champions League or Eurocup bracket.
#262 Cpt_Micha Jan 04, 2012 7:39:28	Go Go Playoffs and sure we can start over I had two really bad weeks, and then that week I missed. Heh, but it's all good. ZB only if we do a racing picks when the time comes :-p  (don't worry I won't force Nascar on you, I hate it too! It'd be Lemans, Rolex or F1 set)
#263 zombie_babies Jan 04, 2012 8:26:58	Heh, my MLB thing was just a joke.  I doubt anyone wants to keep track of well over a hundred games that are played pretty much every day of the week.  We could do March Madness, though.  'Course I'd have to start reading more NCAAB stuff than just Ohio State.
#264 draco1119 Jan 04, 2012 23:02:34	'Course I'd have to start reading more NCAAB stuff than just Ohio State.  Did I ever tell you that I grew up in Indiana and my brother is an IU alum?
#265 dirtyfrank Jan 05, 2012 17:47:50	ok so lets set up the playoffs junk. Basically the same basic rules and junk. Sorry about not getting this up sooner but i was gone yesterday and slept until like noon today. The good news is that I got my new PC up and running in that time. Sat 07 Cincinnati at Houston Detroit at New Orleans Sun 08 Pittsburgh at Denver Atlanta at New York Giants
#266 draco1119 Jan 05, 2012 18:14:18	Sat 07 Cincinnati at Houston Detroit at New Orleans Sun 08 Pittsburgh at Denver Atlanta at New York Giants I don't like picking against theLions this year, but I just don't think they're "there" yet.
#267 grehnhewe Jan 05, 2012 18:33:38	Sat 07 Cincinnati New Orleans Sun 08 Pittsburgh Atlanta
#268 Cpt_Micha Jan 06, 2012 7:46:48	Sat 07 Cincinnati at Houston    I'm going to go with Cinci here. Yes I know how good Houston is. That being said, Jake The Shake Gohomme.. Nuff Said. Detroit at New Orleans  I really wanted to say with a straight face that I was going to pick Detroit for the SB... They are so very close. Problem is, this is the Saints we're talking about here. Hell wit it. I'm goin outside the box. Detroit. Sun 08 Pittsburgh at Denver           Steelers Atlanta at New York Giants  Fatlanta.
#269 zombie_babies Jan 06, 2012 8:43:02	'Course I'd have to start reading more NCAAB stuff than just Ohio State.  Did I ever tell you that I grew up in Indiana and my brother is an IU alum?  That's the beautiful thing about NCAA basketball - none of it matters 'til the end.  And they took out their frustrations on Nebraska with an over 30 point beat down so that sorta makes up for it.  Seriously, though, IU is good.  They beat Kentucky and OSU ... that's good.  'Course they did that at home, but so what.  Still quality wins. OSU is a really young team, too, so that has something to do with it.  And it also highlights the worst thing about NCAAB - guys can leave after one year so teams rarely stay the same.  Meh.
#270 zombie_babies Jan 06, 2012 8:50:56	Sat 07 Cincinnati at Houston Detroit at New Orleans Sun 08 Pittsburgh at Denver Atlanta at New York Giants It's tough to pick a depleted Houston team - especially one that may well start Jake Delhomme - but Cincy hasn't beaten a winning team yet this year.  New Orleans over Detroit was an easy pick for me cuz I think NO is the best team in the NFL right now (and that's coming from a Packers fan) and that goes double for when they're at home.  Detroit can put up huge numbers but I think a younger team in that environment will struggle and Detroit's shown a tendency to do exactly that.  That said, if they win I won't be too surprised.  They have weapons and when they get it together and stay calm they can dominate.  Then again, they just got absolutely shredded by Matt Flynn.  Ouch.  Pittsburgh over Denver seems to be a no brainer but the Tebow one can always surprise ya.  That said, I think a lot of teams are over the shock and he's not gonna be nearly as effective now.  With the safeties that Pittsburgh has, too, even if he is he'll have problems.  The only thing is that Pittsburgh has struggled to score occasionally, lost Mendenhall and has a banged up Big Ben.  If Denver's D can keep it close - and they can (though they've been decidedly meh as of late) - the Tebow one has a chance.  Atlanta/Giants is a tough one.  Atlanta is playing better, New York is playing erratically.  Eli is one of the top QBs this year, though, and both RBs are healthy and they have Victor Cruz and a good D.  Atlanta, apparently, is experiencing some internal strife between the O and the O coordinator.  So, I gotta go with NY.  Let the fun begin!
#271 Cpt_Micha Jan 06, 2012 9:35:11	If Shakey Jakey takes the field all you Houstan pickers are going to be sorry as he'll throw 8 Ints in one game or more.
#272 zombie_babies Jan 06, 2012 11:56:01	He looked good enough against Tenn.  Hell, he actually looked good at the end when he almost, you know, won the game.
#273 dirtyfrank Jan 06, 2012 13:21:08	Sat 07 Cincinnati at Houston Detroit at New Orleans Sun 08 Pittsburgh at Denver Atlanta at New York Giants I'd like to pick houston but they lost their last 3 games of the season and losing to teams like the cults and Carolina. Part of that though is just probably not needing to win anymore to need home field advantage. I'm also not hot for Cincinnati since their play often seems shaky at best. They can play well against good teams but also very badly. I feel that there is no question that NO will win. The Pit has a hurt QB so I'd like to lean towards Denver, but the last half of the season Denver has had only barely wins or have gotten flat out roflestomped (and by bad teams). The Pit with hurt roethlisberger hasn't done so well, but the week he sat out (against the horrible rams) they did have a huge win. I'm thinking that if he isn't doing well by halftime and gets pulled out pit should win, and well if he's doing well pit should win. Giants have been playing too well not to pick them. Not only playing well all season but even into the season end. If I'm not mistaken all other teams playing this weekend (with exception to NO i think) has lost at least 2 of their last 3 games.
#274 dirtyfrank Jan 07, 2012 19:27:35	i checked my email and i got a message friday morning from TD. Here are his picks. Sat 07 Cincinnati at Houston = Hou Detroit at New Orleans = Det Sun 08 Pittsburgh at Denver = Pitt Atlanta at New York Giants = Giants
#275 draco1119 Jan 07, 2012 20:18:04	Mike Tomlin just became my second-favorite coach of all time.  Seriously, read this article about just how awesome he is.
#276 dirtyfrank Jan 08, 2012 7:01:41	Mike Tomlin just became my second-favorite coach of all time.  Seriously, read this article about just how awesome he is. Cool. Yeah some coaches are idiots. I like what he chose to do. Wish more coaches would do this kind of stuff. One single win is not worth a player's career let alone their life. Heck in pretty much all cases it's not worth doing worse the next season (cuz you know ya hurt a good player by having him play injured).
#277 grehnhewe Jan 09, 2012 18:55:01	Well I guess I'm still at my standard. 2:2 for the weekend. Good for you, 1-3 for me...Ugh.  I am running a pool at work, and the best of fifteen are three people tied at 3-1...nobody got 4-0.  We did brackets with ascending point values, so I still have a chance.  A very slight chance as I put the Niners all the way through, but what can I say...I want them to win!
#278 dirtyfrank Jan 10, 2012 11:01:48	Week 1 Post Season Results draco1119: 3 - 1 Zombie_Babies: 3 - 1 dirtyfrank: 3 - 1 Thunder_Dragonbane: 2 - 2 grehnhewe: 1 - 3 Cpt_Micha: 0 - 4 Post Season Results Thus Far draco1119: 3 - 1 Zombie_Babies: 3 - 1 dirtyfrank: 3 - 1 Thunder_Dragonbane: 2 - 2 grehnhewe: 1 - 3 Cpt_Micha: 0 - 4 I was thinking a bit lately that with the post season only being like 11 games there is a possibility that there might be a tie. I'm not sure what kind of tie breaker to put in place as a safety measure so that we have no ickey ties. Anyone have any ideas?
#279 zombie_babies Jan 10, 2012 12:51:05	Umm ... I dunno.  Regular season record?  But that may just make the results the same as the regular season.
#280 grehnhewe Jan 10, 2012 17:40:45	or total points in the Superbowl?
#281 Cpt_Micha Jan 10, 2012 18:23:49	Well damn I sucked at picks last weekend.
#282 dirtyfrank Jan 10, 2012 21:19:16	we'll think of something but I'd prefer no ties because ties are unamerican and football  is american. Sat Denver at New England New Orleans at San Fransisco Sun New York Giants at Green Bay Houston at Baltimore
#283 Cpt_Micha Jan 11, 2012 7:06:35	Sat Denver at New England New Orleans at San Fransisco  Sun New York Giants at Green Bay Houston at Baltimore Denver yeah I'm betting on the Tebow one Saints. Best team in football right now. Sorry 9ers fans Greenbay. Baltimore.
#284 dirtyfrank Jan 11, 2012 8:06:26	Denver at New England New Orleans at San Fransisco New York Giants at Green Bay Houston at Baltimore Denver has been doing well lately but I don't think they are good enough to beat the Patriots especially after they barely beat a team missing some big players and having a very hurt QB. If they are going to struggle against a gimp pits then they shouldn't have much of a chance vs the Patriots. I feel that this is the upset game. That being that I'm sure most everyone feels that NO should win. All they have though is an offense and well they're going up against a defense that is basically number 1 in almost all defensive stats and cause turn overs left and right. Also NO, like all the other "good" teams has pretty much no defense. That means niners meh offense should be quite effective. In this last decade there hasn't really been a powerhouse defensive team in the superbowl or having some sort of dynasty. Everyone is 100% offense and doing epic shootouts. I'm picking the niners and saying that their superb defense would bring them through. Also NO has had all their losses this season on the road. They're on the road against a team who has only had one loss at home. Go Niners. I'm not sure what I want to pick with giants vs GB. I'm sure GB will win but IIRC GB played the giants in regular season and only won by like one possession. I'll have to think on this one some more. Both teams are about equal stat wise but Baltimore has not lost at home yet and I doubt they'll start now.
#285 zombie_babies Jan 11, 2012 8:29:23	Sat Denver at New England New Orleans at San Fransisco Sun New York Giants at Green Bay Houston at Baltimore I like NE's D against Denver's O better than I like Denver's O against NE's admittedly terrible D.  Belichik worked Tebow over once and if you don't think he can unravel Denver's O again, I think you're wrong.  I think Tebow has a chance if he can throw like he did last week.  I don't think he'll be able to do that.  And Brady?  C'mon.  It's Tom Brady. New Orleans at SF is interesting.  NO doesn't play as well on either side of the ball when outside and off the fast track.  That said, they've got all the momentum you can find this postseason, the attitude, the experience, the depth and the health.  SF has a great D - no doubt about it - but it isn't the best D in the history of the game and it's not even the best D this year.  NO, though, has a QB that's besting records that stood for nearly three decades and is averaging a massive amount of points.  I think that wins here.  I don't see them putting a 50 spot on SF, but I see them scoring enough to make it impossible for SF's one dimensional and not point crazy O to keep up.  I'm picking GB because they have the best record and they're my team.  NY is incredibly dangerous right now, though, and that makes it an honestly difficult choice to make.  GB's D is not good.  So not good, in fact, that they enter the postseason with the worst D of any team in the league.  Yep, worse than even NE's D.  And NY's rushing attack is finally healthy and clicking again.  To make it worse, Eli and Nicks and Cruz can lay waste to a good secondary - especially when play action becomes viable - and GB's secondary isn't ... good.  The last time these two teams played, it took a last minute drive with some spectacular throws by Rodgers to win it for the Pack.  The thing about that is GB remained completely cool, completely confident and walked down the field like NY's D wasn't even on it.  I think GB's O is the best unit on the field in this game and I think it's good enough to win it.  I think GB's D will tighten up just enough to make NY struggle.  I feel they'll try to establish the run early, get stuffed enough long enough to fall behind and that that will do it.  Er, I hope. Baltimore over Houston is the only pick I feel super confident about.  And even then I have to think TJ Yates and Arian Foster and that great D have a real shot.  Flacco can suck hard.  If he does, I just don't know.  Baltimore's D is getting old and it's starting to show.  Foster can make a slow middle pay so hard all day long.  If Flacco makes mistakes and Yates doesn't, I think the Texans can pull out the win.  That said, I think the bye week is gonna be enough for Baltimore's D to regain enough swagger to put it in Flacco's hands.  If he's comfortable and Rice can run the ball, it's Baltimore's game.
#286 draco1119 Jan 11, 2012 16:32:00	we'll think of something but I'd prefer no ties because ties are unamerican and football  is american. I vote for total SB points and margin of victory. Sat Denver at New England  NE New Orleans at San Fransisco  NO - Much as I would like to pick the Niners, the NFL's rules have been so altered that they gimp a good D and reward an average O Sun New York Giants at Green Bay  NYG Houston at Baltimore  BLT
#287 grehnhewe Jan 11, 2012 18:12:30	Sat New England (NOT Denver) Niners! Sun Green Bay Baltimore
#288 grehnhewe Jan 15, 2012 10:56:44	9rs what an awesome game!!! Got that right!  Seriously, one of the best games I saw all year!  Smith and Davis!
#289 draco1119 Jan 15, 2012 19:07:47	I'm going to pick the home teams this coming weekend: NYG @ SF BLT @ NE
#290 dirtyfrank Jan 15, 2012 22:38:00	9rs what an awesome game!!! Got that right!  Seriously, one of the best games I saw all year!  Smith and Davis! Agreed. It was an awesome game. It was by far the most enjoyable one to watch all weekend. The NE vs Tebow game was boring as hell. Although I liked the end score.
#291 zombie_babies Jan 16, 2012 8:51:28	Grr.  I knew I shoulda picked the Giants.  Just didn't feel right about the Pack.  That's what you get when you support 'your' team over the facts, though.  Meh.  I'm torn about the Giants/9rs game.  The 9rs were damned impressive in beating the Saints but they should have absolutely crushed 'em.  Five turnovers and they have to win at the last second?  Yeah, call me crazy but I'm still not totally sold on that offense - 30 points or not.  Still, their D is awesome.  Like, totally awesome.  Then again, the Giants' D ain't no slouch.  Gonna be a good'n.  Baltimore and NE is interesting because I'm gonna pick the team with the worst D left.  I mean, Baltimore's D is great and NE's is not but Baltimre didn't even hit 300 yards (IIRC) yesterday.  That's pitiful.  Houston's D is good, though.  Still, there's something to be said for Tom Brady against Joe Flacco - and at home, too.  So yeah, I'll be takin' the Pats and not feelin' too nervous about it. Here we go: Baltimore at NE New York at San Fran There, I did it.  Still don't feel great about countin' the 9rs out but I just think NY is the better team.  Barely, but better.  I see two good defenses and one good offense.  The 9rs O is ok.  The Giants' O is dangerous.  If anything, this should be a lower scoring game than the last one.  Heh.
#292 dirtyfrank Jan 16, 2012 8:55:02	Week 2 Post Season Results draco1119: 3 - 1 dirtyfrank: 3 - 1 Thunder_Dragonbane: 3 - 1 grehnhewe: 3 - 1 Zombie_Babies: 2 - 2 Cpt_Micha: 1 - 3 Post Season Results Thus Far draco1119: 6 - 2 dirtyfrank: 6 - 2 Zombie_Babies: 5 - 3 Thunder_Dragonbane: 5 - 3 grehnhewe: 4 - 4 Cpt_Micha: 1 - 7 And congrats to draco for being the only one to get the NYG-GB game correct. I had a gut feeling NYG would win but for some reason I still picked the obvious choice of GB to win. All in all I'd say that most of everyone still has a chance to win. Draco is that last post of yours the picks for this next set of games?
#293 dirtyfrank Jan 16, 2012 8:59:22	If you guys haven't figured it out yet the next set of games are: NY Giants at San Fransisco Baltimore at New England
#294 zombie_babies Jan 16, 2012 9:07:17	My picks are above but just to make it more clear: To win: New England New York
#295 dirtyfrank Jan 16, 2012 9:15:47	NY Giants at San Fransisco Baltimore at New England I was hoping for a GB win because frankly I feel that niners would have a better chance against the Packers. I feel confident that they'd be able to stop GB's Off well enough and that GB's bad def wouldn't be able to stop the Niners even on a bad day for the niners. But it's the Giants and the Giants ain't bad on either side of the ball. IMO quite a well balanced team and that's probably the worst case scenario for the Niners. I'm going with the niners because they did beat the Giants during the season (barely) and the game is at home. Should be a close game. I don't know much about Baltimore except that what I've seen of them the couple of games I've scene this year is that they're good on both sides of the ball. Not great but good enough. I feel that they can't stop NE well enough and that NE wont be able to stop an offense like Balt well enough. Hmmm. IDK. I sort of feel that a team like NE is all about shoot outs and that they only do good against other shoot out teams and horrible team. That if a team that is good on both sides of the goes up against them that they can easily be smashed. Kind of like the Giants-Packers game this last weekend. But this next week the Giants will be played by Baltimore and the Packers will be played by the Patriots. OK actually this is how I feel about the games. On Saturday if the Niners win then Baltimore wins sunday for a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh superbowl. If the NY Giants win then NE wins for a repeat of the superbowl a few years ago. A chance for the NE to go out for blood and win their title back from Giants so to speak. Both scenarios would be great for media coverage. Anyways I was hoping for the last two games the niners played were GB and NE because 1) they are the "good" teams so a niners superbowl win would mean that much more and 2) those teams seem to rely heavly on "luck" deep passes that and other risky passing that the niners have eatin up all year with great blocks, near interceptions and, well, great interceptions. The Niners might give up times of passing yards but they are second in league with interceptions. Basically, I feel that they would be great games for the niners to shine. Neither team would have a chance in hell with running and passing would seem more luck based for those teams. And well it's not like we need to worry about niners offense in these games. They're the two worst defenses in the league.
#296 Cpt_Micha Jan 16, 2012 10:37:14	NY Giants at San Fransisco Baltimore at New England Niners Baltimore.  Honestly I trust Flacco more than I do the Pats Defense which is craptastic.
#297 draco1119 Jan 16, 2012 20:23:22	Draco is that last post of yours the picks for this next set of games? Sho'nuff.  According to my "Cheesy 80s movies/English" translator, that means "yes". I was hoping for a GB win because frankly I feel that niners would have a better chance against the Packers. Can I have some of what you're smoking, please?  Lambeau Field in January would have been a worst-case scenario for the Niners.  They have a much better chance of beating the Giants at The 'Stick than they would have had playing the Packers on the Heated Tundra. OK actually this is how I feel about the games. On Saturday if the Niners win then Baltimore wins sunday for a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh superbowl. The proper term would be HarBOWL!!!
#298 grehnhewe Jan 17, 2012 19:01:42	Conference Finals Niners! Baltimore (Not Patriots)
#299 draco1119 Jan 22, 2012 18:56:28	I just had a thought: Looking at the rankings and picks after the NE/BLT game, I noticed that there are currently only 3 people still in the running (me, df, and ZB).  If SF wins, then it's only me and df.  And, since only one (or 0) game will separate us, it might be worthwhile for us not to know each other's picks in advance.  So I propose that the people still in the running PM their picks and final scores to one of the others still involved, and that person posts them after s/he's received all three.  Would that be acceptable?  Or is it completely unnecessary?
#300 draco1119 Jan 22, 2012 22:25:59	Well, we'll have our 3rd NYG/NE Super Bowl since 2002.  Yay... AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT DAMNED KYLE WILLIAMS!!!
#301 dirtyfrank Jan 23, 2012 6:51:27	Week 3 Post Season Results Zombie_Babies: 2 - 0 draco1119: 1 - 1 dirtyfrank: 0 - 2 Thunder_Dragonbane: 0 - 2 grehnhewe: 0 - 2 Cpt_Micha: 0 - 2 Post Season Results Thus Far draco1119: 7 - 3 Zombie_Babies: 7 - 3 dirtyfrank: 6 - 4 Thunder_Dragonbane: 5 - 5 grehnhewe: 4 - 6 Cpt_Micha: 1 - 9 Looks like we all done gone screwed up with the exception of ZB because he made bad picks that barely came true when neither of those teams probably should have won but some how luck was on their side. yep, im not bitter one bit. I kind of like your idea draco. We need someone to volunteer to be the 3rd party. both draco and ZB can win. The best I can do is tie if both of you pick the same team and I pick the opposite. If there is a 3 way tie we should probably come up with some kind of tie breaker or something or we can just have a lame 3 way win thing.
#302 grehnhewe Jan 23, 2012 7:34:46	All in all, a couple really good games.  I am very dissapointed in the niners however.  Special teams blunders...ugh!  Fortunately I picked different for my pool at work, so I am still in the running there.
#303 dirtyfrank Jan 23, 2012 8:00:18	I'd agree. Both were good games. Kinda suprising since so far we've had at most only 1 intertaining game each week in the post season this year.
#304 zombie_babies Jan 23, 2012 8:49:34	Sooo ... I was right!  HAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!  I was totally right!!!! Seriously, though, those were awesome games.  The SF game played out almost how I thought it would.  The 9rs 'offense' couldn't convert a third down.  Ever.  So, two good Ds and one good O - pick the O, IMO.  I was a little surprised with the Baltimore game.  Their O played a little better than I thought they would - largely because nobody in NE's secondary can, you know, make a tackle.  I'm not sure about how I feel about witnessing Billy Cundiff's last kick as a Raven, though.    Anyhoo, at least they explained why Baltimore went for it on that one fourth down - apparently, Cundiff is like 5-19 carreer at over 50.  U-gly.  That was crazy, though.  He makes that kick, the coin drops the right way and the Ravens have a better than even chance of winning the game.  If they lose the toss, they still have an even shot, IMO.  One stupid kick.  Heh.  Shank-city.  Special teams decides both games.  Kinda lame, kinda cool. If it's any consolation to anyone for any reason, I watched the NE game and the first half of the SF game at my friend's house ... and he had other guests ... and they brought their toddler ... and my friend has two young boys.  So yeah, I got to listen to an awful lot of screaming and incredibly shrill screaming at that.  My ears ... my god, my ears.  Yeah, so it's no wonder that I left at halftime of the second game - when the kids decided to get all amped up for some reason.  Man, that sucked.
#305 dirtyfrank Jan 23, 2012 16:24:42	Yes it is good consolation that you were bothered enough by youngsters so that you could not properly enjoy your being correct. I was kinda disappointed with the niners game. Their defense played horribly. Their special teams was horrible, but partly because gin is out. Akers basically had not chances to perform (a rarity so far for the niners). And Alex Smith was being Alex Smith. Sometimes he plays really good and other times he plays very horribly. If you need a third yard conversion and you have less than 5 yards to go just give it to gore. It seemed like gore was averaging something like 6-8 yards per carry that game. It's cool and all that they tried big throw plays but really there isn't anybody he can pass to but davis. Especially since the niners couple of best receivers are out on injury. With how bad the Niners played I'm not feeling that the Giants are good enough to win the superbowl. That is until I remember the other game. Brady didn't look good at all. He played horribly. Looked like a total noob out there. Like if he played like that against the niners there would have been about 6 interceptions by the end of the game. If he plays like that for the superbowl I'm sure the Giants can win. If he plays like his normal self I'm sure the patriots can tea bag the Giants to teh end of the earth. I'm not sure which team to pick because i'm not sure i can be confident on which team will show up with their game faces on for the superbowl. Other than that I don't feel any excitement for the superbowl. Maybe it's because there is no good teams in the superbowl this year. OK im kinda glad the niners lost. a little bit. I'm not sure if smith + injuries can protect the niners perfect superbowl appearance record so kinda glad they didn't make it. I'd like for the niners to get better and more consistent before they go to teh superbowl again.
#306 grehnhewe Jan 23, 2012 18:56:49	I am not that hyped on the super bowl either.  Not a fan of either of the teams, or Brady, or the Mannings.  Oh well...still a half-way decent reason to hang out with friends and have some food and drink.
#307 zombie_babies Jan 24, 2012 8:33:37	Yeah, I'm not sure who I'm gonna pick.  I mean, if SF won I was takin' them all day.  But they showed what happens when you have no O and rely on turnovers - if they don't come, you lose.  Still, were I a 9rs fan, I'd be pretty stoked.  They have the foundation of a really, really good team.  I don't think anyone is gonna be sleepin' on 'em next year but I also don't think it'll matter.  They're legit good and should be for a few years at least.  It's easy to say 'pick the more complete team' for the SB.  Thing is, if you picked the more complete team to win the AFC Championship, you were wrong.  Close, but wrong.  A bad Brady beat a good Baltimore D.  That's why I just don't know.  Factor in the fact that the NE D did what a Belichick coached team does and performed when they needed to and I really don't know.  It's totally conceivable that the Giants could blow NE out.  It's also conceivable that they could be blown out.  More likely, it'll be a game that comes down to the wire.  But I just don't know.  Ain't football great?
#308 dirtyfrank Feb 01, 2012 8:17:51	Ok, here is how we're gonna do this. I have no chance. Only to tie and that's slim and tying is for losers. So since all I can do is lose I'm not participating in the last bit. You last two fools that are left will PM me with your pick. After I've received both I'll post the picks here where you guys can commence the smack talk.
#309 zombie_babies Feb 01, 2012 9:21:51	Just a pick or do ya need a score, too?
#310 draco1119 Feb 01, 2012 15:42:22	Just a pick or do ya need a score, too? I included a score, just in case.  I don't know what we're gonna do if we pick the same team & score...
#311 zombie_babies Feb 01, 2012 16:09:38	Ok, I'll send a score, too.  I know I'm gonna be way off.
#312 dirtyfrank Feb 01, 2012 22:26:20	Draco is picking the Pats I'm going with the Pats.  38-31 And ZB going with the NY Giants Giants to win, 24-17. Personally I thought ZB would go with patriots and possibly draco too. I was gonna be picking the Patriots because I don't feel that Manning deserves a second one. More worthy QBs such as brady and whatnot. Now let all smack talk from all sides (including us noob pig skin pickers)!
#313 grehnhewe Feb 02, 2012 7:37:25	I am glad I do not have to pick a winner, but I do want the Patriots to lose more than the Giants.
#314 zombie_babies Feb 02, 2012 8:38:19	I just feel that the Giants are a more complete team and if you pair their O players against the Pats D, you have the potential for Eli to be able to keep up with Brady.  Brady has also been pretty 'meh' (for him) against teams not named the Denver Tebows in the playoffs over the last few years .  The Giants D is exactly the type that gives him problems, too.  They'll get after him and that will cause problems for NE. That said, it's like really super hard to ever count out Brady.  I mean, he's Tom friggin' Brady.  So, if the Pats win I won't be flabbergasted.  Unlikely stories happen all the time in the NFL.  It's why we watch.  And this wouldn't really be all that unlikely, either.  I'm pretty sure the Pats are still favored for some reason.  Record?  I mean, they've got the second worst D in the league.  Meh.  They still have Tommy and Billy.  Gronk bein' hurt doesn't help them, though.  Still, like I said, I won't be surprised if they win.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they won by 14.  I did pick the Pats to beat the superior D'd Ravens, too.  'Course Flacco is no Eli. The kewl thing is that scores won't matter since we picked different teams.  The score part was what I was truly worried about, heh.
#315 dirtyfrank Feb 02, 2012 9:10:42	heh. Cheating in competitive sports is quite common. I don't like cheating, but I find it hard to believe that the Patriots were the only ones doing it. It's more likely they're the only ones that got caught. I mean there are reasons why they put stuff in front of their mouths while they talk. There is also a reason to why there is a huddle now. A lot of stuff actively done by teams is done to try and prevent cheating.
#316 zombie_babies Feb 02, 2012 9:45:54	Yup.  And players do their best to intercept and read calls while on the field.  You can see it work, too.  Watch - well, someone like Eli is great for this - a QB that uses the same word to indicate certain stuff out of certain formations.  Eventually guys pick it up and crush the play before it starts.  Can't remember what commentator it was (Collinsworth?) but he was, apparently, talked to about it by someone because he would mention when Eli did it in game.  Eli shouts 'Omaha' to get the snap and, it seems, in certain formations a certain 'Omaha' always snaps the ball.  And you can see the major jump the D gets on those plays.  It's really interesting stuff.  But yeah, every guy on the field is trying to figure the other side's code out.  It's part of the game. And yeah, the best example of how common it's at least perceived to be is how 99% of coaches cover their mouths when they call plays.  Someone somewhere is trying to read the call - even if it's just someone sitting and watching the broadcast.  All it takes is an open phone call and a few words to impact the play. Oh, and baseball is also notorious for this.  Guys try to steal pitch and defense signs all the time.  They'll even make sacrifices to try and do it.  Take a strike, pretend to bunt, whatever in order to try and see if the sign they think they understand means what they think it does.
#317 dirtyfrank Feb 06, 2012 1:41:09	The more games I watch of Eli Manning the more I realize that he's worse than Alex Smith. Eli couldn't hit the broad side of a barn to save his life. If it wasn't for his extremely great recievers he'd never complete a pass. Almost no pass by him was directly to a reciever. It was always something they had to make an effort to reach.  Half the time is was just miles away for no reason. Of course the announcers blame the reciever for running a bad route and not Eli for sucking. Brady is good but made some dumb mistakes like that first play. bleh. halftime show sucked. giants suck. eli sucks. 87 on the patriots could have had a good chance to catch that last throw if he would have dove, but didn't and cost the game for his team. I don't know who he is and don't feel like looking it up but he should be cut. It's the superbowl. Make the effort. He practically had the ball without the dive. Just a bit more effort means the difference between glory and being a loser. Make the effort. also, eli sucks. have i mentioned how bad he is? Well he's bad. really bad. Without guys like cruz or nicks who can catch anything within 5 miles of them the giants wouldn't have a passing game. simple as that.
#318 grehnhewe Feb 06, 2012 7:49:59	Not a bad game at all, and I am glad the Patriots got shut down. I have to agree, the halftime show was awful.  Madonna should retire, no wonder MIA flipped off the camera.
#319 Cpt_Micha Feb 06, 2012 8:03:55	Tom Brady did what Tom Brady does best. Get sacked and then choke. Boston fans, he's not the greatest QB of all time. A true great gets right back up and goes "Oh It Is ON" not.. "oh god no that hurt.. no mommy don't let them hurt me again.. how do I throw?!"
#320 Cpt_Micha Feb 06, 2012 9:21:56	Brady must have been up too late the night before with his wife. I love reading Pats fans commentary when they lose a ring. Really, I like Eli more than Peyton. I think Eli just needs to look to his sides abit more. Well done man. There was no quit on that team. That's the stuff of professionals.
#321 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 8:36:30	87 on the patriots could have had a good chance to catch that last throw if he would have dove, but didn't and cost the game for his team. I don't know who he is and don't feel like looking it up but he should be cut. It's the superbowl. Make the effort. He practically had the ball without the dive. Just a bit more effort means the difference between glory and being a loser. Make the effort. First, how many Superbowl wins does Alex Smith have?  Jus' sayin', homie.  Second, 87 is Rob Gronkowski - the guy that holds the record for single season yardage by a tight end.  He set the record this year.  His ankle was totally borked so he wasn't able to get into a good position.  I think if he was healthy, he wouldn't have needed to dive.  He'd have been down in time to be part of the jump ball and he's way bigger than NY's corners and safeties so it would have been uber interesting.  Oh yeah, he also took a pic with Bibi Jones ... a pr0n star.  So that's, you know, cool.  The last two halftime shows were pathetic. For the Maddona show my GF was sitting there yelling at the tv you need to loose all of the excessive clothes and dance... That creature can't sing, and she has never been attractive. They really need to stick with good rock groups. Why in hell did they not talk VH into playing? It would have made sence, they just released an album with DLR for the first time in 25 years. Dance?  Your gf wanted Madonna to dance more?  She knows Madonna is like 60, right?  And wore massive heels.  And was on an elevated stage for most of the show.  I mean, damn, bro.  That's way too harsh.  Give gramma some props.  She ain't no 30-somethin' dancer.  And her show was way, way better than the BEP show last year.  Oh, and if the SB ever gets Van Halen to perform at halftime, it may be the first Superbowl I refuse to watch.  On principle.  Van Halen sucks.
#322 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 8:40:32	Brady must have been up too late the night before with his wife. dood, did you see her comments afterward?  She was waitin' for an elevator or somethin' and these Giants fans were razzin' her about Brady bein' not very good that game (first snap IG in the end zone?  really?) and she started out quiet and calm and ignorin' 'em but she eventually snapped and started yellin' about how nobody on her hubby's team can catch so it's not on him, it's on Welker an' Branch instead.  Yeah, that'll be great for the locker room next year.  Oh yeah, almost forgot: I am the champeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!
#323 Cpt_Micha Feb 07, 2012 9:39:14	I'd kill to have Welker and Branch on the Panthers.
#324 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 10:24:37	Sounds like Giselle would kill for you to have them.    Oh, I'm sure Cam agrees, heh.
#325 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 13:12:19	I don't get it either, truth be told.  She's like one of the most famous supermodels ever but her face is like totally meh.  Whatever.  Not my problem, heh.
#326 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 16:10:55	I don't think she does much modeling anymore.  Could be wrong.  But she was (if not is) a Victoria's Secret model so ... you know ... people weren't lookin' at her face all that much.    I think she's worth like $150 mil, too.  Cuz she wore underwear.
#327 Cpt_Micha Feb 07, 2012 19:56:17	Sounds like Giselle would kill for you to have them.    Oh, I'm sure Cam agrees, heh.  She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice....
#328 dirtyfrank Feb 08, 2012 1:06:23	87 on the patriots could have had a good chance to catch that last throw if he would have dove, but didn't and cost the game for his team. I don't know who he is and don't feel like looking it up but he should be cut. It's the superbowl. Make the effort. He practically had the ball without the dive. Just a bit more effort means the difference between glory and being a loser. Make the effort. First, how many Superbowl wins does Alex Smith have?  Jus' sayin', homie.  Second, 87 is Rob Gronkowski - the guy that holds the record for single season yardage by a tight end.  He set the record this year.  His ankle was totally borked so he wasn't able to get into a good position.  I think if he was healthy, he wouldn't have needed to dive.  He'd have been down in time to be part of the jump ball and he's way bigger than NY's corners and safeties so it would have been uber interesting.  Oh yeah, he also took a pic with Bibi Jones ... a pr0n star.  So that's, you know, cool.  The last two halftime shows were pathetic. For the Maddona show my GF was sitting there yelling at the tv you need to loose all of the excessive clothes and dance... That creature can't sing, and she has never been attractive. They really need to stick with good rock groups. Why in hell did they not talk VH into playing? It would have made sence, they just released an album with DLR for the first time in 25 years. Dance?  Your gf wanted Madonna to dance more?  She knows Madonna is like 60, right?  And wore massive heels.  And was on an elevated stage for most of the show.  I mean, damn, bro.  That's way too harsh.  Give gramma some props.  She ain't no 30-somethin' dancer.  And her show was way, way better than the BEP show last year.  Oh, and if the SB ever gets Van Halen to perform at halftime, it may be the first Superbowl I refuse to watch.  On principle.  Van Halen sucks. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. PS Eli sucks
#329 zombie_babies Feb 08, 2012 8:23:33	She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. VH was always terrible.  Every song sounds the same - awful.  Just terrible stuff.  And I don't get why they always pull a bunch of 60 something rockers out on their rockers to play halftime.  I mean, the Stones?  Really?  The Who?  Why?  But it's not like there's really any sort of good new rock band lightin' up the world right now, either.  Most rock music today is all whiny an' stuff and who wants to hear whinin' during halftime?  PS Eli sucks Eli 'Two Rings' Manning sucks?  Eli 'The Brady Slayer' Manning is no good?  Eli 'The Smith Smasher' Manning is second rate?  Eli 'The Niners Nuker' Manning isn't worthy of a starting job?  I disagree.  It's easy to hate on Eli and I'm in no way one of his fans.  His struggles last year brought me much joy.  But dood, this year?  He was in the top 3 -5 QBs all season.  And he's got 2 SB wins.  I hate to say it, but he's good.  He's certainly got the resume.
#330 Cpt_Micha Feb 08, 2012 8:42:01	I can only dream. They could get Chevelle to play for the half time. Honestly they are probably one of the best bands going right now. Problem is the SB is run by a bunch of old geezers that are about 20 to 30 years out of date, unless they try to emulate what we 'whippersnappers ' like... Black Eyed Peas anyone? Yeah. That's what happens when you let old people run Entertainment. Although really I didn't think Madonna did a bad job at all. Look at the friggin stage she had to work with. Then there's the shoes. She was much better than the last like... 8 super bowl half times.
#331 zombie_babies Feb 08, 2012 12:35:01	I can only dream. They could get Chevelle to play for the half time. Honestly they are probably one of the best bands going right now. Problem is the SB is run by a bunch of old geezers that are about 20 to 30 years out of date, unless they try to emulate what we 'whippersnappers ' like... Black Eyed Peas anyone? Yeah. That's what happens when you let old people run Entertainment. Although really I didn't think Madonna did a bad job at all. Look at the friggin stage she had to work with. Then there's the shoes. She was much better than the last like... 8 super bowl half times.  Chevelle is also terrible.  And sorta whiny.  They choose the geezers cuz they're a safe option.  Don't want any more wardrobe malfunctions, you know.  I also thought this year's halftime show wasn't all that bad.  And it was 1000% better than last year's BEP disaster.  Madonna wasn't bad for a chick old enough to be dead.
#332 dirtyfrank Feb 09, 2012 1:52:26	Show She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. VH was always terrible.  Every song sounds the same - awful.  Just terrible stuff.  And I don't get why they always pull a bunch of 60 something rockers out on their rockers to play halftime.  I mean, the Stones?  Really?  The Who?  Why?  But it's not like there's really any sort of good new rock band lightin' up the world right now, either.  Most rock music today is all whiny an' stuff and who wants to hear whinin' during halftime?  PS Eli sucks Eli 'Two Rings' Manning sucks?  Eli 'The Brady Slayer' Manning is no good?  Eli 'The Smith Smasher' Manning is second rate?  Eli 'The Niners Nuker' Manning isn't worthy of a starting job?  I disagree.  It's easy to hate on Eli and I'm in no way one of his fans.  His struggles last year brought me much joy.  But dood, this year?  He was in the top 3 -5 QBs all season.  And he's got 2 SB wins.  I hate to say it, but he's good.  He's certainly got the resume.
#333 Count_Von_CoC Feb 09, 2012 7:38:52	She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. On Giselle: Stay cute and shut up. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. On Gronkowski: He was healthy to party afterward.  If your ankle's too injured for you to catch a pass, then it's too hurt to be dancing on stage.  Just sayin'.
#334 zombie_babies Feb 09, 2012 8:31:30	Show If this doesn't make sense it's because I'm drinking. If it makes sense it's probably because I'm drinking. Close-ish is another way of saying loser. If this is the kind of stuff the pats wanna do to win then well I guess they deserved their loss. You are right there are none that are lighting up the world right now but something like Cage the Elephant wouldn't be a bad start. I stick by my eli sucks stance. IMO Montana isn't a good quarter back but he's got quite a few rings. Not because he's a great quarter back but because he had a good crew around him and the coaching staff recognized his limitations. Picking plays within those limitations all of a sudden makes an OK quarter back look great. Kinda like how Alex smith went from looking like junk to throwing only 5 interceptions this year. Less than half that he's thrown in any one season teh whole rest of his career. And if I'm not mistaken that's a 49ers franchise record for a starting quarter back. Yeah did better than Montana and Young in that stat.  I think this is also a 49ers record, he set a personal record for passing yards. Basically by the coaching staff knowing and calling plays to the limitations of their players those that look horrible now start performing way better. From what I see of eli he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Almost ever. But his doods like cruz and nicks seem to have great hands. almost 100% of eli's passes go to these guys each game it seems unless they are being double covered. A good quarter back like brady would still be able to get the ball to these guys and do it consistently. Even though playing bad the last two games he did show this ability. Eli was over throwing passes, under throwing and well just being off all over the place. The thing is that eli's receivers were able to do what they gotta do to catch these bad balls (mainly only if they weren't double or triple covered but that's because eli would 100% pass to the next guy down his list/line). The giants receivers are amazing. I have a feeling that with the giants coaching staff and offensive unit that almost any quarter back in the NFL can be put into that position and consistently have a playoff caliber team. Having someone like a brady or pre injury peyton would more than likely lead to a NYG dynasty. To sum it up eli's rings are not a function of his talent. It has more to do with the offensive unit that supports him and the coaches that know and call plays within his limitations. The point is that Madonna isn't bad for someone in her 50s and even though the halftime was better than times previous it doesn't mean the halftime was good by any stretch of the imagination. And I'm not sure why but I have this king for nicki minaj. I know she's dumb and her music is annoying, but something about her dumb barbie doll look and hawt blackness with the whole thing being some dumb act or something like that seems appealing.... I think. That's it I'm starting a band. One of the goals will be to get into the SB halftime show while in our prime. Thy point has been made.
#335 Cpt_Micha Feb 09, 2012 9:10:12	39 yards and 7 carries which bought the Giants time, let alone all the blocking he did. Jacobs still has it. He's not Williams and Stewart by any means but I'd still put him on my team any day. Tebow is going to follow the Jake The Shake Pattern. Look good for 2 years, then he'll throw 9 interceptions per game and be laughed right out of Denver. He's a John Fox product after all.
#336 zombie_babies Feb 09, 2012 12:01:28	I think Tebow may end up ok.  Not great, but a sort of poor man's Cam Newton.  Like, Elway even said he's gonna help Tebow out with his mechanics an' stuff.  And he did shred Pittsburgh's secondary in the playoffs.  If the D holds up and he improves even a little, he'll be ok.  Since his coach has shown a willingness to work with Tebow's talents instead of forcing him into a role he isn't fit for, I'd say the odds are decent he can turn into something that doesn't totally suck.  Maybe.  And Jacobs sucks.  He's got a rep for being soft - and he's massive.  There's no reason for it aside from attitude.  He has the physical tools and even used to use them.  Now he just sorta shows up and collects a check.  There's a reason Bradshaw is the number one back now, you know.
#337 Cpt_Micha Feb 10, 2012 8:13:19	And yet him being soft is still better than anything New England had on the ground game :-p Oh wait. I forgot. New England's ground game consists of.. "ground? lol... lolground.. We have the greatest QB of All Time of All Time!!!1111. "
#338 zombie_babies Feb 10, 2012 8:22:38	Yeah, New England doesn't have much in the way of a rushing attack.  Though BJGE has never fumbled in the NFL.  Ever.  Still, he doesn't gain alot of yards, either.  Not like they need him to, though.  And he did play pretty ok in the playoffs aside from the SB.  But yeah, NE has no D and no running game.  It really is amazing they made it as far as they did and showed up as well in the SB.
#339 Cpt_Micha Feb 10, 2012 9:31:43	Actually NE's D if you only count denying the score (and not yards allowed etc), they ranked 15th in the league.  Vs 39th by the average rating. Fun fact that was brought up during the game. And honestly that's all you should really rate about a D. Can they prevent points and get the O back on the field.
#340 zombie_babies Feb 10, 2012 10:33:48	39th?!  Dizzam, yo.  That's uber bad.  I mean, since there's only 32 teams in the league an' all.
#362 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 8:40:32	Brady must have been up too late the night before with his wife. dood, did you see her comments afterward?  She was waitin' for an elevator or somethin' and these Giants fans were razzin' her about Brady bein' not very good that game (first snap IG in the end zone?  really?) and she started out quiet and calm and ignorin' 'em but she eventually snapped and started yellin' about how nobody on her hubby's team can catch so it's not on him, it's on Welker an' Branch instead.  Yeah, that'll be great for the locker room next year.  Oh yeah, almost forgot: I am the champeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!
#363 Cpt_Micha Feb 07, 2012 9:39:14	I'd kill to have Welker and Branch on the Panthers.
#364 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 10:24:37	Sounds like Giselle would kill for you to have them.    Oh, I'm sure Cam agrees, heh.
#365 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 13:12:19	I don't get it either, truth be told.  She's like one of the most famous supermodels ever but her face is like totally meh.  Whatever.  Not my problem, heh.
#366 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 16:10:55	I don't think she does much modeling anymore.  Could be wrong.  But she was (if not is) a Victoria's Secret model so ... you know ... people weren't lookin' at her face all that much.    I think she's worth like $150 mil, too.  Cuz she wore underwear.
#367 Cpt_Micha Feb 07, 2012 19:56:17	Sounds like Giselle would kill for you to have them.    Oh, I'm sure Cam agrees, heh.  She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice....
#368 dirtyfrank Feb 08, 2012 1:06:23	87 on the patriots could have had a good chance to catch that last throw if he would have dove, but didn't and cost the game for his team. I don't know who he is and don't feel like looking it up but he should be cut. It's the superbowl. Make the effort. He practically had the ball without the dive. Just a bit more effort means the difference between glory and being a loser. Make the effort. First, how many Superbowl wins does Alex Smith have?  Jus' sayin', homie.  Second, 87 is Rob Gronkowski - the guy that holds the record for single season yardage by a tight end.  He set the record this year.  His ankle was totally borked so he wasn't able to get into a good position.  I think if he was healthy, he wouldn't have needed to dive.  He'd have been down in time to be part of the jump ball and he's way bigger than NY's corners and safeties so it would have been uber interesting.  Oh yeah, he also took a pic with Bibi Jones ... a pr0n star.  So that's, you know, cool.  The last two halftime shows were pathetic. For the Maddona show my GF was sitting there yelling at the tv you need to loose all of the excessive clothes and dance... That creature can't sing, and she has never been attractive. They really need to stick with good rock groups. Why in hell did they not talk VH into playing? It would have made sence, they just released an album with DLR for the first time in 25 years. Dance?  Your gf wanted Madonna to dance more?  She knows Madonna is like 60, right?  And wore massive heels.  And was on an elevated stage for most of the show.  I mean, damn, bro.  That's way too harsh.  Give gramma some props.  She ain't no 30-somethin' dancer.  And her show was way, way better than the BEP show last year.  Oh, and if the SB ever gets Van Halen to perform at halftime, it may be the first Superbowl I refuse to watch.  On principle.  Van Halen sucks. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. PS Eli sucks
#369 zombie_babies Feb 08, 2012 8:23:33	She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. VH was always terrible.  Every song sounds the same - awful.  Just terrible stuff.  And I don't get why they always pull a bunch of 60 something rockers out on their rockers to play halftime.  I mean, the Stones?  Really?  The Who?  Why?  But it's not like there's really any sort of good new rock band lightin' up the world right now, either.  Most rock music today is all whiny an' stuff and who wants to hear whinin' during halftime?  PS Eli sucks Eli 'Two Rings' Manning sucks?  Eli 'The Brady Slayer' Manning is no good?  Eli 'The Smith Smasher' Manning is second rate?  Eli 'The Niners Nuker' Manning isn't worthy of a starting job?  I disagree.  It's easy to hate on Eli and I'm in no way one of his fans.  His struggles last year brought me much joy.  But dood, this year?  He was in the top 3 -5 QBs all season.  And he's got 2 SB wins.  I hate to say it, but he's good.  He's certainly got the resume.
#370 Cpt_Micha Feb 08, 2012 8:42:01	I can only dream. They could get Chevelle to play for the half time. Honestly they are probably one of the best bands going right now. Problem is the SB is run by a bunch of old geezers that are about 20 to 30 years out of date, unless they try to emulate what we 'whippersnappers ' like... Black Eyed Peas anyone? Yeah. That's what happens when you let old people run Entertainment. Although really I didn't think Madonna did a bad job at all. Look at the friggin stage she had to work with. Then there's the shoes. She was much better than the last like... 8 super bowl half times.
#371 zombie_babies Feb 08, 2012 12:35:01	I can only dream. They could get Chevelle to play for the half time. Honestly they are probably one of the best bands going right now. Problem is the SB is run by a bunch of old geezers that are about 20 to 30 years out of date, unless they try to emulate what we 'whippersnappers ' like... Black Eyed Peas anyone? Yeah. That's what happens when you let old people run Entertainment. Although really I didn't think Madonna did a bad job at all. Look at the friggin stage she had to work with. Then there's the shoes. She was much better than the last like... 8 super bowl half times.  Chevelle is also terrible.  And sorta whiny.  They choose the geezers cuz they're a safe option.  Don't want any more wardrobe malfunctions, you know.  I also thought this year's halftime show wasn't all that bad.  And it was 1000% better than last year's BEP disaster.  Madonna wasn't bad for a chick old enough to be dead.
#372 dirtyfrank Feb 09, 2012 1:52:26	Show She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. VH was always terrible.  Every song sounds the same - awful.  Just terrible stuff.  And I don't get why they always pull a bunch of 60 something rockers out on their rockers to play halftime.  I mean, the Stones?  Really?  The Who?  Why?  But it's not like there's really any sort of good new rock band lightin' up the world right now, either.  Most rock music today is all whiny an' stuff and who wants to hear whinin' during halftime?  PS Eli sucks Eli 'Two Rings' Manning sucks?  Eli 'The Brady Slayer' Manning is no good?  Eli 'The Smith Smasher' Manning is second rate?  Eli 'The Niners Nuker' Manning isn't worthy of a starting job?  I disagree.  It's easy to hate on Eli and I'm in no way one of his fans.  His struggles last year brought me much joy.  But dood, this year?  He was in the top 3 -5 QBs all season.  And he's got 2 SB wins.  I hate to say it, but he's good.  He's certainly got the resume.
#373 Count_Von_CoC Feb 09, 2012 7:38:52	She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. On Giselle: Stay cute and shut up. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. On Gronkowski: He was healthy to party afterward.  If your ankle's too injured for you to catch a pass, then it's too hurt to be dancing on stage.  Just sayin'.
#374 zombie_babies Feb 09, 2012 8:31:30	Show If this doesn't make sense it's because I'm drinking. If it makes sense it's probably because I'm drinking. Close-ish is another way of saying loser. If this is the kind of stuff the pats wanna do to win then well I guess they deserved their loss. You are right there are none that are lighting up the world right now but something like Cage the Elephant wouldn't be a bad start. I stick by my eli sucks stance. IMO Montana isn't a good quarter back but he's got quite a few rings. Not because he's a great quarter back but because he had a good crew around him and the coaching staff recognized his limitations. Picking plays within those limitations all of a sudden makes an OK quarter back look great. Kinda like how Alex smith went from looking like junk to throwing only 5 interceptions this year. Less than half that he's thrown in any one season teh whole rest of his career. And if I'm not mistaken that's a 49ers franchise record for a starting quarter back. Yeah did better than Montana and Young in that stat.  I think this is also a 49ers record, he set a personal record for passing yards. Basically by the coaching staff knowing and calling plays to the limitations of their players those that look horrible now start performing way better. From what I see of eli he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Almost ever. But his doods like cruz and nicks seem to have great hands. almost 100% of eli's passes go to these guys each game it seems unless they are being double covered. A good quarter back like brady would still be able to get the ball to these guys and do it consistently. Even though playing bad the last two games he did show this ability. Eli was over throwing passes, under throwing and well just being off all over the place. The thing is that eli's receivers were able to do what they gotta do to catch these bad balls (mainly only if they weren't double or triple covered but that's because eli would 100% pass to the next guy down his list/line). The giants receivers are amazing. I have a feeling that with the giants coaching staff and offensive unit that almost any quarter back in the NFL can be put into that position and consistently have a playoff caliber team. Having someone like a brady or pre injury peyton would more than likely lead to a NYG dynasty. To sum it up eli's rings are not a function of his talent. It has more to do with the offensive unit that supports him and the coaches that know and call plays within his limitations. The point is that Madonna isn't bad for someone in her 50s and even though the halftime was better than times previous it doesn't mean the halftime was good by any stretch of the imagination. And I'm not sure why but I have this king for nicki minaj. I know she's dumb and her music is annoying, but something about her dumb barbie doll look and hawt blackness with the whole thing being some dumb act or something like that seems appealing.... I think. That's it I'm starting a band. One of the goals will be to get into the SB halftime show while in our prime. Thy point has been made.
#375 Cpt_Micha Feb 09, 2012 9:10:12	39 yards and 7 carries which bought the Giants time, let alone all the blocking he did. Jacobs still has it. He's not Williams and Stewart by any means but I'd still put him on my team any day. Tebow is going to follow the Jake The Shake Pattern. Look good for 2 years, then he'll throw 9 interceptions per game and be laughed right out of Denver. He's a John Fox product after all.
#376 zombie_babies Feb 09, 2012 12:01:28	I think Tebow may end up ok.  Not great, but a sort of poor man's Cam Newton.  Like, Elway even said he's gonna help Tebow out with his mechanics an' stuff.  And he did shred Pittsburgh's secondary in the playoffs.  If the D holds up and he improves even a little, he'll be ok.  Since his coach has shown a willingness to work with Tebow's talents instead of forcing him into a role he isn't fit for, I'd say the odds are decent he can turn into something that doesn't totally suck.  Maybe.  And Jacobs sucks.  He's got a rep for being soft - and he's massive.  There's no reason for it aside from attitude.  He has the physical tools and even used to use them.  Now he just sorta shows up and collects a check.  There's a reason Bradshaw is the number one back now, you know.
#377 Cpt_Micha Feb 10, 2012 8:13:19	And yet him being soft is still better than anything New England had on the ground game :-p Oh wait. I forgot. New England's ground game consists of.. "ground? lol... lolground.. We have the greatest QB of All Time of All Time!!!1111. "
#378 zombie_babies Feb 10, 2012 8:22:38	Yeah, New England doesn't have much in the way of a rushing attack.  Though BJGE has never fumbled in the NFL.  Ever.  Still, he doesn't gain alot of yards, either.  Not like they need him to, though.  And he did play pretty ok in the playoffs aside from the SB.  But yeah, NE has no D and no running game.  It really is amazing they made it as far as they did and showed up as well in the SB.
#379 Cpt_Micha Feb 10, 2012 9:31:43	Actually NE's D if you only count denying the score (and not yards allowed etc), they ranked 15th in the league.  Vs 39th by the average rating. Fun fact that was brought up during the game. And honestly that's all you should really rate about a D. Can they prevent points and get the O back on the field.
#380 zombie_babies Feb 10, 2012 10:33:48	39th?!  Dizzam, yo.  That's uber bad.  I mean, since there's only 32 teams in the league an' all.
#402 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 8:40:32	Brady must have been up too late the night before with his wife. dood, did you see her comments afterward?  She was waitin' for an elevator or somethin' and these Giants fans were razzin' her about Brady bein' not very good that game (first snap IG in the end zone?  really?) and she started out quiet and calm and ignorin' 'em but she eventually snapped and started yellin' about how nobody on her hubby's team can catch so it's not on him, it's on Welker an' Branch instead.  Yeah, that'll be great for the locker room next year.  Oh yeah, almost forgot: I am the champeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!
#403 Cpt_Micha Feb 07, 2012 9:39:14	I'd kill to have Welker and Branch on the Panthers.
#404 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 10:24:37	Sounds like Giselle would kill for you to have them.    Oh, I'm sure Cam agrees, heh.
#405 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 13:12:19	I don't get it either, truth be told.  She's like one of the most famous supermodels ever but her face is like totally meh.  Whatever.  Not my problem, heh.
#406 zombie_babies Feb 07, 2012 16:10:55	I don't think she does much modeling anymore.  Could be wrong.  But she was (if not is) a Victoria's Secret model so ... you know ... people weren't lookin' at her face all that much.    I think she's worth like $150 mil, too.  Cuz she wore underwear.
#407 Cpt_Micha Feb 07, 2012 19:56:17	Sounds like Giselle would kill for you to have them.    Oh, I'm sure Cam agrees, heh.  She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice....
#408 dirtyfrank Feb 08, 2012 1:06:23	87 on the patriots could have had a good chance to catch that last throw if he would have dove, but didn't and cost the game for his team. I don't know who he is and don't feel like looking it up but he should be cut. It's the superbowl. Make the effort. He practically had the ball without the dive. Just a bit more effort means the difference between glory and being a loser. Make the effort. First, how many Superbowl wins does Alex Smith have?  Jus' sayin', homie.  Second, 87 is Rob Gronkowski - the guy that holds the record for single season yardage by a tight end.  He set the record this year.  His ankle was totally borked so he wasn't able to get into a good position.  I think if he was healthy, he wouldn't have needed to dive.  He'd have been down in time to be part of the jump ball and he's way bigger than NY's corners and safeties so it would have been uber interesting.  Oh yeah, he also took a pic with Bibi Jones ... a pr0n star.  So that's, you know, cool.  The last two halftime shows were pathetic. For the Maddona show my GF was sitting there yelling at the tv you need to loose all of the excessive clothes and dance... That creature can't sing, and she has never been attractive. They really need to stick with good rock groups. Why in hell did they not talk VH into playing? It would have made sence, they just released an album with DLR for the first time in 25 years. Dance?  Your gf wanted Madonna to dance more?  She knows Madonna is like 60, right?  And wore massive heels.  And was on an elevated stage for most of the show.  I mean, damn, bro.  That's way too harsh.  Give gramma some props.  She ain't no 30-somethin' dancer.  And her show was way, way better than the BEP show last year.  Oh, and if the SB ever gets Van Halen to perform at halftime, it may be the first Superbowl I refuse to watch.  On principle.  Van Halen sucks. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. PS Eli sucks
#409 zombie_babies Feb 08, 2012 8:23:33	She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. VH was always terrible.  Every song sounds the same - awful.  Just terrible stuff.  And I don't get why they always pull a bunch of 60 something rockers out on their rockers to play halftime.  I mean, the Stones?  Really?  The Who?  Why?  But it's not like there's really any sort of good new rock band lightin' up the world right now, either.  Most rock music today is all whiny an' stuff and who wants to hear whinin' during halftime?  PS Eli sucks Eli 'Two Rings' Manning sucks?  Eli 'The Brady Slayer' Manning is no good?  Eli 'The Smith Smasher' Manning is second rate?  Eli 'The Niners Nuker' Manning isn't worthy of a starting job?  I disagree.  It's easy to hate on Eli and I'm in no way one of his fans.  His struggles last year brought me much joy.  But dood, this year?  He was in the top 3 -5 QBs all season.  And he's got 2 SB wins.  I hate to say it, but he's good.  He's certainly got the resume.
#410 Cpt_Micha Feb 08, 2012 8:42:01	I can only dream. They could get Chevelle to play for the half time. Honestly they are probably one of the best bands going right now. Problem is the SB is run by a bunch of old geezers that are about 20 to 30 years out of date, unless they try to emulate what we 'whippersnappers ' like... Black Eyed Peas anyone? Yeah. That's what happens when you let old people run Entertainment. Although really I didn't think Madonna did a bad job at all. Look at the friggin stage she had to work with. Then there's the shoes. She was much better than the last like... 8 super bowl half times.
#411 zombie_babies Feb 08, 2012 12:35:01	I can only dream. They could get Chevelle to play for the half time. Honestly they are probably one of the best bands going right now. Problem is the SB is run by a bunch of old geezers that are about 20 to 30 years out of date, unless they try to emulate what we 'whippersnappers ' like... Black Eyed Peas anyone? Yeah. That's what happens when you let old people run Entertainment. Although really I didn't think Madonna did a bad job at all. Look at the friggin stage she had to work with. Then there's the shoes. She was much better than the last like... 8 super bowl half times.  Chevelle is also terrible.  And sorta whiny.  They choose the geezers cuz they're a safe option.  Don't want any more wardrobe malfunctions, you know.  I also thought this year's halftime show wasn't all that bad.  And it was 1000% better than last year's BEP disaster.  Madonna wasn't bad for a chick old enough to be dead.
#412 dirtyfrank Feb 09, 2012 1:52:26	Show She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. And VH sucks. They were OK in their prime. They are horrible now. Has anyone heard their new stuff? sucks, but tattoo is kinda stuck to me. It still sucks though. A VH halftime would be horrible though. And I doubt a 60 yo man will be able to hit all the high notes like they used too. kinda tell-able with their new stuff. I think I'd rather watch this SB again than watch a VH one. If they are going to have a rock band (which i doubt they will unless the band is at least 20 years past their prime) they need to pick someone that is sort of current. Or at least someone currently putting out good music still and can still perform up to par. VH was always terrible.  Every song sounds the same - awful.  Just terrible stuff.  And I don't get why they always pull a bunch of 60 something rockers out on their rockers to play halftime.  I mean, the Stones?  Really?  The Who?  Why?  But it's not like there's really any sort of good new rock band lightin' up the world right now, either.  Most rock music today is all whiny an' stuff and who wants to hear whinin' during halftime?  PS Eli sucks Eli 'Two Rings' Manning sucks?  Eli 'The Brady Slayer' Manning is no good?  Eli 'The Smith Smasher' Manning is second rate?  Eli 'The Niners Nuker' Manning isn't worthy of a starting job?  I disagree.  It's easy to hate on Eli and I'm in no way one of his fans.  His struggles last year brought me much joy.  But dood, this year?  He was in the top 3 -5 QBs all season.  And he's got 2 SB wins.  I hate to say it, but he's good.  He's certainly got the resume.
#413 Count_Von_CoC Feb 09, 2012 7:38:52	She should talk to bellicheck then *nods sagely* They Patriots could only benefit from her sound advice.... Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys will get your wish.    Seriously, though, Welker is a free agent so there has to be an outside chance.  Then again, Brady did just say he'd like to throw to Welker as long as possible ... and that was after the SB.  Very, very doubtful he'll be gone. On Giselle: Stay cute and shut up. Don't care if he set records or was some top notch player during season. If he's healthy enough to play he's healthy enough to do whatever he needs to do to make the play. It's the superbowl. If he can't make that dive or reach that little grab the ball or out jump the other guys to catch it like he might be able to do when healthy then he shouldn't be out on the field. He wasn't healthy enough, obviously.  He played that game pretty much as a decoy and - for some reason - it worked for a lot of the game, too.  He was in on that particular play because of his size and his hands.  They didn't have anyone better to put in there instead of Gronk.  If he were 100%, though, he would have been in better positon.  Still, even hurt he made it close-ish. On Gronkowski: He was healthy to party afterward.  If your ankle's too injured for you to catch a pass, then it's too hurt to be dancing on stage.  Just sayin'.
#414 zombie_babies Feb 09, 2012 8:31:30	Show If this doesn't make sense it's because I'm drinking. If it makes sense it's probably because I'm drinking. Close-ish is another way of saying loser. If this is the kind of stuff the pats wanna do to win then well I guess they deserved their loss. You are right there are none that are lighting up the world right now but something like Cage the Elephant wouldn't be a bad start. I stick by my eli sucks stance. IMO Montana isn't a good quarter back but he's got quite a few rings. Not because he's a great quarter back but because he had a good crew around him and the coaching staff recognized his limitations. Picking plays within those limitations all of a sudden makes an OK quarter back look great. Kinda like how Alex smith went from looking like junk to throwing only 5 interceptions this year. Less than half that he's thrown in any one season teh whole rest of his career. And if I'm not mistaken that's a 49ers franchise record for a starting quarter back. Yeah did better than Montana and Young in that stat.  I think this is also a 49ers record, he set a personal record for passing yards. Basically by the coaching staff knowing and calling plays to the limitations of their players those that look horrible now start performing way better. From what I see of eli he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Almost ever. But his doods like cruz and nicks seem to have great hands. almost 100% of eli's passes go to these guys each game it seems unless they are being double covered. A good quarter back like brady would still be able to get the ball to these guys and do it consistently. Even though playing bad the last two games he did show this ability. Eli was over throwing passes, under throwing and well just being off all over the place. The thing is that eli's receivers were able to do what they gotta do to catch these bad balls (mainly only if they weren't double or triple covered but that's because eli would 100% pass to the next guy down his list/line). The giants receivers are amazing. I have a feeling that with the giants coaching staff and offensive unit that almost any quarter back in the NFL can be put into that position and consistently have a playoff caliber team. Having someone like a brady or pre injury peyton would more than likely lead to a NYG dynasty. To sum it up eli's rings are not a function of his talent. It has more to do with the offensive unit that supports him and the coaches that know and call plays within his limitations. The point is that Madonna isn't bad for someone in her 50s and even though the halftime was better than times previous it doesn't mean the halftime was good by any stretch of the imagination. And I'm not sure why but I have this king for nicki minaj. I know she's dumb and her music is annoying, but something about her dumb barbie doll look and hawt blackness with the whole thing being some dumb act or something like that seems appealing.... I think. That's it I'm starting a band. One of the goals will be to get into the SB halftime show while in our prime. Thy point has been made.
#415 Cpt_Micha Feb 09, 2012 9:10:12	39 yards and 7 carries which bought the Giants time, let alone all the blocking he did. Jacobs still has it. He's not Williams and Stewart by any means but I'd still put him on my team any day. Tebow is going to follow the Jake The Shake Pattern. Look good for 2 years, then he'll throw 9 interceptions per game and be laughed right out of Denver. He's a John Fox product after all.
#416 zombie_babies Feb 09, 2012 12:01:28	I think Tebow may end up ok.  Not great, but a sort of poor man's Cam Newton.  Like, Elway even said he's gonna help Tebow out with his mechanics an' stuff.  And he did shred Pittsburgh's secondary in the playoffs.  If the D holds up and he improves even a little, he'll be ok.  Since his coach has shown a willingness to work with Tebow's talents instead of forcing him into a role he isn't fit for, I'd say the odds are decent he can turn into something that doesn't totally suck.  Maybe.  And Jacobs sucks.  He's got a rep for being soft - and he's massive.  There's no reason for it aside from attitude.  He has the physical tools and even used to use them.  Now he just sorta shows up and collects a check.  There's a reason Bradshaw is the number one back now, you know.
#417 Cpt_Micha Feb 10, 2012 8:13:19	And yet him being soft is still better than anything New England had on the ground game :-p Oh wait. I forgot. New England's ground game consists of.. "ground? lol... lolground.. We have the greatest QB of All Time of All Time!!!1111. "
#418 zombie_babies Feb 10, 2012 8:22:38	Yeah, New England doesn't have much in the way of a rushing attack.  Though BJGE has never fumbled in the NFL.  Ever.  Still, he doesn't gain alot of yards, either.  Not like they need him to, though.  And he did play pretty ok in the playoffs aside from the SB.  But yeah, NE has no D and no running game.  It really is amazing they made it as far as they did and showed up as well in the SB.
#419 Cpt_Micha Feb 10, 2012 9:31:43	Actually NE's D if you only count denying the score (and not yards allowed etc), they ranked 15th in the league.  Vs 39th by the average rating. Fun fact that was brought up during the game. And honestly that's all you should really rate about a D. Can they prevent points and get the O back on the field.
#420 zombie_babies Feb 10, 2012 10:33:48	39th?!  Dizzam, yo.  That's uber bad.  I mean, since there's only 32 teams in the league an' all.