... Sorry TA, but your state is moving from a "No, I won't be your neighbor" state to a "hell horsey no, I won't be your neighbor".
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Second, holy crap. This is very disturbing. I can guarandamntee ya that if this happens more states will try the same. Bad idea is bad.
But regardless, I'll throw my 2cents in.
Meh, I dont really care. The whole seperation of Church and State is a joke any way. Look at our money, In God we Trust! And marriage, dont even get me started on that. And theres those who use the supposed church and state seperation to come up with stupid ideas like oh you cant call those Easter eggs, so yeah I dont think it will really change anything. If they start arresting people for coveting their neighbor's wife, then I'll start to worry.
It never ceases to amaze me how staunchly the GOP defends to the Constitution…right up until it gets in the way of something they want. They they can't tear the thing apart fast enough. Seriously, it's like they think "Democracy" is a portmanteau of "demonstrated hypocrisy".
If they start arresting people for coveting their neighbor's wife, then I'll start to worry.
Then will be too late. Now, at the first step of the long run-up to kick everything the USA is meant to stand for field goal-style right into the ocean, is when everyone should worry.
And Silversword, separation of church and state is something to take seriously, even if the lines sometimes get blurred with things like money and the Pledge of Allegiance (seriously can't we make the one controversial line optional to say and then everyone can get on with their lives). It still prevents the government from sponsoring a certain religion, requiring, or creating religious laws (yes every intelligent person realizes that DOMA is exactly that, but also notice that when the California ban on gay marriage was struck down by the court, the judge explained that no argument not founded in religion had been presented, but without separation of church and state a religious argument alone could have sufficed).
Im not saying I dont take it seriously or that I think its a good idea.
Im just not worrying about it, I mean if I worried about every stupid idea the government comes up with...
ok yeah, im worried!
Looks like there's one state that's heading in the direction of Iran and Iraq.
It can't go too far, though. Like, not even a single step. That's a Federal issue. It will be ruled unconstitutional in about half a second.
Lets hope so. The last thing we need is more theocracies.
The Supreme Court has been excessively for the separation of church and state. Far moreso than the Constitution actually spells out. Even if Florida passes that bill, it won't go anywhere.
Even if Florida passes that bill, it won't go anywhere.
It will go far in reinforcing the notion that Florida is the thin-end of the funnel of American stupidity.
Even if Florida passes that bill, it won't go anywhere.
It will go far in reinforcing the notion that Florida is the thin-end of the funnel of American stupidity.
Heh. At some point, though, nothing that happens will convince any more people one way or the other. The saturation point will have been achieved. Me, I think Florida reached that point a while ago.
If they start arresting people for coveting their neighbor's wife, then I'll start to worry.
You may want to take a look at these:
www.slate.com/id/1063/
law.justia.com/codes/idaho/2010/title18/...
While not usually enforced, nothing says these idiots we have in Florida (Ireally need to get the hell out of this place) won't decide to try and implement and enforce similar if not stricter laws.
Looks like there's one state that's heading in the direction of Iran and Iraq.
It can't go too far, though. Like, not even a single step. That's a Federal issue. It will be ruled unconstitutional in about half a second.
Dude... you have no idea how much I hope you are correct.
Even if Florida passes that bill, it won't go anywhere.
It will go far in reinforcing the notion that Florida is the thin-end of the funnel of American stupidity.
really? you need this new set of laws to reinforce that belief? have I not started enough threads demonstrating the lack functioning brain cells in the state?
seriously... I'm going to start looking for another place to move to. This place is getting dumber by the day.
!!!!!! really? you need this new set of laws to reinforce that belief? have I not started enough threads demonstrating the lack functioning brain cells in the state?
seriously... I'm going to start looking for another place to move to. This place is getting dumber by the day.
I chose the word "reinforce" carefully. This latest piece of abject stupidity introduces no new insight into the shallow end of the gene pool, it simply adds to the wealth of supporting the already extant body of evidence.
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*slaps self*
FOR ALLAH
No wait that's not right.
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Let's burn us some heathens! WHEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
That's about more accurate as to the mental degenerate flavor of the American nutjob. And that's exactly what Florida is in general.
www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/13/2166115/s...
www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/15/2167957/l...
Now if Georgia and Alabama would create some kind of Berlin wall type of boarder to kill off any of the escaping indiots.
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... Sorry TA, but your state is moving from a "No, I won't be your neighbor" state to a "hell horsey no, I won't be your neighbor".
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DAMNIT!
What they really need to do is move towards controlling the press beter here!
Personally, I think this guy has the right idea.
If only. Unfortunately, I don't think any South American country would want to put up with Florida's BS. If for some reason Florida drifted towards Cuba, Cuba would probably try to sink it.
These people migrate to an area, that fits their social views loosely, and basically it became an Echo Chamber, for Deep South mentality. Also, look at the states Florida shares borders with. That and seriously, 1/2 the state is a swamp. A swamp in the Deep south, next to Georgia and Alabama. Honestly this sort of thing shouldn't surprise us, but even those of us that live in the South can take one look at Florida and go WTF is wrong with you.
The reason we don't see this sort of thing en masse out of Texas is due to a very high transient population. Many people live on one side of "the border" and work on the other. (On both sides. Americans and Mexicans do this alot down there) Most of Texas's worst offenders are transplants from Northern states where they weren't welcome anymore, the Bush family is a good example. Texas, also has alot smaller population scattered about their state compared to say florida.
Mississippi on the other hand (sp because I hate that dump), has a very isolated culture compared to the rest of the South even because let's face it, there's nothing out there that's of any value to the country on a national level, the reason why it is the way it is there, is because everyone in america has more or less silently disowned that state or intentionally has forgotten it exists.
Once you get outside of say, Miami Florida's multi culturalism falls through the toilet. There are ALOT of Deep South small towns in Florida, inhabited by middle to well to do Old People that were no longer welcome in their original environment.
These people migrate to an area, that fits their social views loosely, and basically it became an Echo Chamber, for Deep South mentality. Also, look at the states Florida shares borders with. That and seriously, 1/2 the state is a swamp. A swamp in the Deep south, next to Georgia and Alabama. Honestly this sort of thing shouldn't surprise us, but even those of us that live in the South can take one look at Florida and go WTF is wrong with you.
The reason we don't see this sort of thing en masse out of Texas is due to a very high transient population. Many people live on one side of "the border" and work on the other. (On both sides. Americans and Mexicans do this alot down there) Most of Texas's worst offenders are transplants from Northern states where they weren't welcome anymore, the Bush family is a good example. Texas, also has alot smaller population scattered about their state compared to say florida.
Mississippi on the other hand (sp because I hate that dump), has a very isolated culture compared to the rest of the South even because let's face it, there's nothing out there that's of any value to the country on a national level, the reason why it is the way it is there, is because everyone in america has more or less silently disowned that state or intentionally has forgotten it exists.
Very true, though I would also include most of broward county as part of the multi-cultural area. Although the further north into broward county you go, the Southern the area becomes. There is a joke down here that if you are coming down through Florida, once you get to Broward county, you need a passport to get in. It is like a whole other country down here compaired to the rest of Florida.
So how do you guys (Floridians and Americans in general) deal with this sort of exagerated dichotomy. How do you deal with some part of the country being modern and the other being stuck in the 50s?
From the looks of it, it doesn't seem to matter much to people.
That's pretty much it. Our country is large enough that (barring forced travel due to occupations) we can stay away from the parts we don't like.
So how do you guys (Floridians and Americans in general) deal with this sort of exagerated dichotomy. How do you deal with some part of the country being modern and the other being stuck in the 50s?
From the looks of it, it doesn't seem to matter much to people.
Well Cleansing the areas of their backwards population is still frowned upon unfortunately. However, most of the time we try very hard to pretend they don't exist, until they say or do something stupid enough to attract so much attention on themselves that we can't ignore them.
[And try and recruit higher quality neighbors, but that's not going too well.]
And then a lot of people just end up life-long nomads. Which reminds me... IIRC, Americans, on average, live in more places throughout their lives then the citizens of just about any other first world nation. For being a rather sedentry lot, we make the big moves relatively often.
So moving doesn't solve much? Maybe not on a federal level (but it doesn't make it much worse, either), but on a personal, private level? Hell yeah, it can make a huge difference.
So how do you guys (Floridians and Americans in general) deal with this sort of exagerated dichotomy. How do you deal with some part of the country being modern and the other being stuck in the 50s?
From the looks of it, it doesn't seem to matter much to people.
How do we deal with it? We rant about how our culture is gonna die thanks to all these different people we don't like and then whine about how we should be an independent state or whatever.
The diversity is still there today, but the federal government/court has really diluted much of that.
Personally, I don't see an issue with Florida going in this direction if that is what the majority of the people want. If they want to be known as the Bible Thumping State, so be it. There are 49 other options (and outlying areas).
In America, it used to be a common phrase that you "vote with your feet." In other words, the states were so diverse in their laws that you could find one that suited your beliefs and lifestyle. Don't like your state's abortion laws? Pack up and move. Don't like the lack of death penalty? Move to a state that has one.
The diversity is still there today, but the federal government/court has really diluted much of that.
Personally, I don't see an issue with Florida going in this direction if that is what the majority of the people want. If they want to be known as the Bible Thumping State, so be it. There are 49 other options (and outlying areas).
You know, it isn't even the majority of Florida, it's the little towns that mess up the state. The largest Counties Like Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach are Pretty good places where you don't get this type of extremism. There are churches of pretty much any and every denomination. They generally stay out of people's way.
The other, much smaller counties, screw the state over. Fortunately, the majority of the population is in areas like these three counties, and large cities. These tend to be a lot more moderate. I used to date this girl whose family lived in a small town near orlando. The firt time I met them, I could have sworn they were all country singers. All the men in her family had what could be described as hillbilly beards and a thick (bymiami standards) Southern accent. We went to this bar with her family called the country bar. It was country... very country (by Miami standards at least).
Since most of the populstion is in the larger, more moderate cities, I highly doubt they will be able to get the 60% of the population needed to change the Florida constitution and pass this attrocity of a bill.
It is more like Texas is copying us. We feel like true originals. Represent.
Texas has pretty much always wanted to be its own slice of heaven. That aside, first or last you an' Texas still have somethin'in common, ya'all.
You know, it isn't even the majority of Florida, it's the little towns that mess up the state. The largest Counties Like Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach are Pretty good places where you don't get this type of extremism. There are churches of pretty much any and every denomination. They generally stay out of people's way.
The other, much smaller counties, screw the state over. Fortunately, the majority of the population is in areas like these three counties, and large cities. These tend to be a lot more moderate. I used to date this girl whose family lived in a small town near orlando. The firt time I met them, I could have sworn they were all country singers. All the men in her family had what could be described as hillbilly beards and a thick (bymiami standards) Southern accent. We went to this bar with her family called the country bar. It was country... very country (by Miami standards at least).
Since most of the populstion is in the larger, more moderate cities, I highly doubt they will be able to get the 60% of the population needed to change the Florida constitution and pass this attrocity of a bill.
Yeah, that's cool. I didn't mean to imply (if I did) that I was in favor of it. Just that I supported Florida making that determination for itself. If they are not going by what the people want, that is an entirely different issue altogether. An issue bigger than this actual article covers.
Yeah, that's cool. I didn't mean to imply (if I did) that I was in favor of it. Just that I supported Florida making that determination for itself. If they are not going by what the people want, that is an entirely different issue altogether. An issue bigger than this actual article covers.
Politicians here are pretty bad. We have senators trying to weaken the Florida supreme court because they din't like one of t he rulings the florida supreme court handed down. We have a governor who pretty much bought his position. If I remember correctly, he spent about 50 million of his own money, plus what was given to him in the form of donations. They just decided to ignore the classroom size limits that were voted in by Floridians. Instead of following the classroom size legislation they decided to change up what is core curriculum.
And as for healthcare, it's even worse. I'm not even talking about universal healthcare, I'm just talking about having access to qualified individuals who can provide health services.
I'm hoping that if there is a giant meteor that his the earth, it hits tallahassee while the governor, the house and senate are in.
I don't want it to be giant sized.... a city killer would do for you guys.
As long as it hits Tallahssee.
Thus, a Canadian funeral home company lost a huge lawsuit - and then couldn't appeal the decision unless they could post a bond that exceeded the judgment against them.
A Canadian was kidnapped off the street in Canada by bounty hunters - instead of normal extradition proceedings being followed - and he was held in Florida until his trial instead of being swiftly returned to Canada, with normal extradition proceedings following if warranted.
Just make sure that it's during the World's Greatest Bipartisan Convention.
You guys set up that convention. I'll take care of the meteor...
Just make sure that it's during the World's Greatest Bipartisan Convention.
You guys set up that convention. I'll take care of the meteor...
LOL. If we both were able to do this, I am not sure who would have the most unbelievable super power.
Just make sure that it's during the World's Greatest Bipartisan Convention.
You guys set up that convention. I'll take care of the meteor...
Hey, um, you know that sounds like a bomb threat, right? Against a government building. When it is at its fullest with the leaders of the local governing body?
What I'm saying is, yo, your probably crossing some CoC boundaries 'n junk.
They can't stand each other so much (supposedly) that apparently half the time, more than half of them can't even be at work when the other is at any given moment.
TA: Since when has violating the CoC ever stopped an Otter from posting in the past?
Florida is an unusual state.
Thus, a Canadian funeral home company lost a huge lawsuit - and then couldn't appeal the decision unless they could post a bond that exceeded the judgment against them.
A Canadian was kidnapped off the street in Canada by bounty hunters - instead of normal extradition proceedings being followed - and he was held in Florida until his trial instead of being swiftly returned to Canada, with normal extradition proceedings following if warranted.
Yes well, we like to spread the missery. Besides, the funeral home was dumb. It shpuld have paid a few politicians and it could have won. As foe the guy that got kidnapped... what was he originally arrested for?
I'd say you guys would Jharii. :-p
They can't stand each other so much (supposedly) that apparently half the time, more than half of them can't even be at work when the other is at any given moment.
LOL. But, but, but... you control meteors... with your mind?? I'd be willing to concede a draw, although you would get a lot more use out of your powers.
We'll call it a draw.
This is true, however I can't Dominate and subjugate minds that are that corrupt to force them to endure each other's reeking body odors, and brown stained noses :-p
We'll call it a draw.
Deal. And you gave politicians far too much credit.