You obviously haven't even been to TVTropes' Wild Mass Guessing pages...
I'm skeptical, yet suspicious...
Is it weird that I just love reading stuff like that? I'm a big huge fan of conspiracy theories. I don't believe them, I just find them fascinating. Usually I prefer the older ones about illuminati and whatnot as opposed to the newer stuff with the CIA or whatever, but I'll take what I can get.
Thanks for the dose of crazy.
When I need crazy I just read BrainUSA's posts.
Ahhh...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Is it weird that I just love reading stuff like that? I'm a big huge fan of conspiracy theories. I don't believe them, I just find them fascinating. Usually I prefer the older ones about illuminati and whatnot as opposed to the newer stuff with the CIA or whatever, but I'll take what I can get.
Thanks for the dose of crazy.
LOL as if the CIA could carry off a successful conspiracy. Seriously our government can barley keep secrets, heck even an affair involving the president got found out ,you think those guys could successfully cary out a conspiracy? I couldn't make sense of it seemed like nonsense to me.
LOL as if the CIA could carry off a successful conspiracy. Seriously our government can barely keep secrets, heck even an affair involving the president got found out ,you think those guys could successfully cary out a conspiracy? I couldn't make sense of it seemed like nonsense to me.
Haha. Although I, too, prefer conspiracies involving Templars, Masons, and Illuminati.
He had all kinds of off the wall theories like 9/11 being a hoax. He claimed that no wreckage was found of the plane that crashed in PA (which is a departure even from what most of the other crazies believe). He said this was proof that it was shot down. He didn't like it when I explained that even if it was shot down there would still be wreckage. Short of a nuke, we don't have any missiles that will just flat out vaporize an airplane like that. He then of course insisted that it was just a secret missile that no one else knows about, and ignored my attempts to explain how explosives work and what results from an explosion, etc.
I quickly realized that logic has no effect on those types of people.
I quickly realized that logic has no effect on those types of people.
Yup. Conspiracy theories are a form of faith, and since faith has no basis in logic or reason it is impervious to both.
Yup. Conspiracy theories are a form of faith, and since faith has no basis in logic or reason it is impervious to both.
Actually, historically, faith has been based entirely on reason, and logic. The issue becomes when people extend such faith in the light of contradictory evidence that arises after its inception.
I had an interesting conversation with a guy at a bar about two weeks ago. He had all kinds of conspiracy theories, which he said his source for was a Marine Intelligence LTC. That right there made me suspicious because when someone is bull**** about the military, they really like to choose the Marines, because somehow they think that branch carries more weight. He also seemed to think I'd be impressed by a LTC, even though in this case the position probably counts for more than the rank. If you work for DIA or at the Pentagon, you're going to pick up more sensitive stuff than someone at a battalion or brigade (or whatever, I forget what the Marines call their equivalent).
He had all kinds of off the wall theories like 9/11 being a hoax. He claimed that no wreckage was found of the plane that crashed in PA (which is a departure even from what most of the other crazies believe). He said this was proof that it was shot down. He didn't like it when I explained that even if it was shot down there would still be wreckage. Short of a nuke, we don't have any missiles that will just flat out vaporize an airplane like that. He then of course insisted that it was just a secret missile that no one else knows about, and ignored my attempts to explain how explosives work and what results from an explosion, etc.
I quickly realized that logic has no effect on those types of people.
LOL. Yeah seriously we don't have missiles like that. The amount of money that would be required to produce a new missile is prohibitive, mind you there are a lot of projects on the ground, but they are years away. I worked in Military intelligence. The military is a bit better about secret keeping specially NSA but still its not that great.
I have no idea where people get these ideas from, then again there are people who think enemy of the state is a good representation of NSA. Best book for a semi accurate look Dan Brown's Digital Fortress some of it is fairly well researched.
Actually, historically, faith has been based entirely on reason, and logic.
Sorry, but that is simply not true.
The issue becomes when people extend such faith in the light of contradictory evidence that arises after its inception.
No, that is an issue, not the issue.
Before this goes any further, I would like to make a request. If this line of discussion continues here it will both derail this thread and invariably border on, or vaulting over, the line skirting the ban on religious discussion. If we can avoid delving into religion, and the requesite dogpile and shouting matches, can we at least move it to another thread. If not, can we at least take it to PM so as to not derail.
Cheers.
Sorry, but that is simply not true.
It is. In almost all cases, it begins with man's attempt to explain that which he doesn't understand. The explanations given are all well-reasoned and based on the knowledge given at the time. For a broad overview (though slightly incorrect in some assumptions), I would recommend Frazer. Further, most cultural anthropology works delve into precisely the reasoning that underlies many faiths.
No, that is an issue, not the issue.
It is the primary issue, in my opinion - and the reason why I state that even your OP borders upon the same. The title of the thread assumes that in your BELIEF science will offer no evidence in the future (through eternity) that may support such a possible cause. Or perhaps even a related cause that may be analogous to the one given. Unless you are omniscient and are fully aware of all knowledge that mankind will EVER learn, such a belief is no more than faith, in and of itself. (by definition). However, as seen in much of the older beliefs, as we learn more of the underlying forces and items that exist, we often better explain those older beliefs. It's as I say - you don't need to know what trichonosis to feel it's a bad thing to eat pork. Of course, the flip side is that once you know what trichonosis is, you can focus in on the true problem.
Before this goes any further, I would like to make a request. If this line of discussion continues here it will both derail this thread and invariably border on, or vaulting over, the line skirting the ban on religious discussion. If we can avoid delving into religion, and the requesite dogpile and shouting matches, can we at least move it to another thread. If not, can we at least take it to PM so as to not derail.
Cheers.
Well - as said - I believe I have avoided the line, and kept it on target. Although...
with regard to PMs
Did you ever check out the series I suggested for you? (Ishmael, Danel Quinn)
Did you ever check out the series I suggested for you? (Ishmael, Danel Quinn)
Orc$ and other such Dark Lord manifestations occur from the malignant athleticism of Americans.
Karate, should be a given. Guns aren't necessary, but common place in a western style flick. I'd like to see possibly extreme sport fans, but not necessarily grappling monks.
The tongue and dialogue shouldn't be necessarily Cockney, I'd think. These are other roles, like gaelic/celtic accents. The black speech is a sinister dialogue, so that's leeway with the creative production team.
The idea is of course, there will be a lot of hiking and walking, a lot of strenous shoots. The ages should not approach 34 , but cut-offs for the younger set depends on body mass ratio to skeleton-muscle size. You have to be fit in other words.
The fair share of crazy involves a certain degree of professionality and tone in your response to the questions, as Americans. These aren't SEAL teams, but they require a little piracy/road dawg mentality, sober organization, and time management skills, as they like to say.
This is how I best put forward the WETA team "evil" needs. Casting Call is very soon, the month wait is getting close. You have a six month period before you must be ready on station, which admittedly...is a coach seat, passport in hand.
Two Words:
On Time.
The fill of crazy...
Bah. You're killing the gag by trying to hard.
I'm going to dump this profile for an anonymous one.
flash traffic
- - -
When PJ mentions a "month or so" (in AICN) for announcements on casting, please give us leeway on the time- chances are that It is much more much an "...or so" time frame than "a month..." - I beg everyone not to resent timeframes when they are tentative...
Affectionately
G (Production Director)
and I thought I was bad...
wow...
and I thought I was bad...
Despite the degree to which I disagree with you on many things, I have never been tempted to ignore you.
You're not bad at all, you're coherent. I might disagree, but I know what you're trying to say and you're not treating the forums as your own personal blog. Big difference.
wow...
and I thought I was bad...
You are. But compared to Brian... Well, let's face it, nothing is in Brian's league.
Is it weird that I just love reading stuff like that? I'm a big huge fan of conspiracy theories. I don't believe them, I just find them fascinating. Usually I prefer the older ones about illuminati and whatnot as opposed to the newer stuff with the CIA or whatever, but I'll take what I can get.
Thanks for the dose of crazy.
LOL as if the CIA could carry off a successful conspiracy. Seriously our government can barley keep secrets, heck even an affair involving the president got found out ,you think those guys could successfully cary out a conspiracy? I couldn't make sense of it seemed like nonsense to me.
Hey, that explains my major doubt about conspiracy theories: if they're so big and secret and so many important people want to keep them secret, how the hell do you know about it so much!?
(You're one of them, I know it!)
You are. But compared to Brian... Well, let's face it, nothing is in Brian's league.
It does take a special kind of…something (is there a word for that point where "crazy", "dumb", and "no sense of humour" meet?) to spew nonsense gibberish for a couple weeks and then pretend you are Guillermo del Toro.
Weak.
Who said I wanted to be him.
I was doing him a favor.
LOL. Yeah seriously we don't have missiles like that. The amount of money that would be required to produce a new missile is prohibitive, mind you there are a lot of projects on the ground, but they are years away. I worked in Military intelligence. The military is a bit better about secret keeping specially NSA but still its not that great.
I have no idea where people get these ideas from, then again there are people who think enemy of the state is a good representation of NSA. Best book for a semi accurate look Dan Brown's Digital Fortress some of it is fairly well researched.
I wouldn't even say its the cost that's prohibitive. We develop new missiles, new rockets, all kinds of new stuff that costs tons of money. It's just that the cost of that particular missile, one that massively huge for no reason whatsoever, plus the production costs would just be ridiculous, and what the hell would you use it on that you couldn't use something else for instead? And then you'd have pieces of that thing lying around instead of pieces of the "vaporized" airplane (because no matter how large the warhead was, you'd need an even larger rocket motor for it). It just doesn't make sense on any level.