It got me to thinking. why on earth would you need a boyfriend at 13? It seems slutty to me when girls that age are making out and all of that good suff. Is it just me? Or are these little girls growing up too fast? I see 15 year olds who look older than me, because the're CAKED in make up. i dunno, it just feels...so wrong.So recently I overheard these girls talking about this one classmate they have who is apparently SUCH a loser. why? cause she's 13 BUT HASNT HAD A BOYFRIEND YET!!
Ah, yes. You are referring to the prosti-tots. One of the most favoritest words in my vocab.
EDIT: Everyone is making rants now. I wonder what mine should be about...
That said... I say round up all the prosti-tots, place them in a white room with a fiberglass divider and put a bunch of 30+ men on the other side. If that doesn't scare them into acting their age, I don't know what will.
That said... I say round up all the prosti-tots, then make them post their pictures, with e-mail addresses, on 4chan. If that doesn't scare them into acting their age, I don't know what will.
To fully make my point, watch the episode of South Park that makes fun of Paris Hilton and deals with the issue of prosti-tots.
If the grass is green, play ball ;)
Young girls need to stop idolizing wh**** like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton. They need better role models.
To fully make my point, watch the episode of South Park that makes fun of Paris Hilton and deals with the issue of prosti-tots.
Seriously (and I do mean seriously, I'm not being sarcastic, here), is it just me or does every episode of South Park actually have a pretty great moral object lesson in it somewhere? Honestly, I think South Park has more legitimate moral value than most other shows do. I'm not kidding.
I'm 23 years old, and I date 13 year olds all the time.
If the grass is green, play ball ;)
lrn2troll
It's "If there's grass on the mound". : P
lrn2troll
It's "If there's grass on the mound". : P
Never heard it put that way, but I like it.
I'm a little shocked that I beat everyone else to the petifile jokes.
Never heard it put that way, but I like it.
I'm a little shocked that I beat everyone else to the petifile jokes.
I think you might be the only one running that particular race, bud. : P
EDIT: If ZB or frank feels nice, one of them might humor you with some backup. : P
I think you might be the only one running that particular race, bud. : P
EDIT: If ZB or frank feels nice, one of them might humor you with some backup. : P
Yes... where is frank? I figured he would be the one to beat me.
EDIT: If ZB or frank feels nice, one of them might humor you with some backup. : P
I think I'm good. I had a whole bunch of kid-in-bag jokes out there just last week or something. *crinkle crinkle*
Blame Canada!
There's nothing humerous about kitty-on-man watersports.
So recently I overheard these girls talking about this one classmate they have who is apparently SUCH a loser. why? cause she's 13 BUT HASNT HAD A BOYFRIEND YET!!
Amen.
Anyway, I'm not so sure if those girls have really 'grown up' too fast. They're just trying to get to the fun part of the life* as quickly as possible. That kind of excludes the possibility of having grown up since growing up means understanding that life is not and should not be always fun.
*Think of adulthood with no responsiblities to yourself or the society, you can just have as much fun as you want to as long as you want to.
This awkward stage breeds low self esteem, and without parental or some other counsel, they will end up acting in ways that are truly detrimental to themselves.
This is probably the time when girls need their mothers the most.
Judging by some of the comments here, I'm not sure it's as much a question of girls growing up too fast, as a question of guys not growing up at all.
Probably both, but I hope you will admit that in our society, 13 is just a tad early, no?
Judging by some of the comments here, I'm not sure it's as much a question of girls growing up too fast, as a question of guys not growing up at all.
girls hit puberty sooner than boys do, so they get the "funny feelings" sooner. That's how it always is, and always has been. there really is no need for male-bashing.Judging by some of the comments here, I'm not sure it's as much a question of girls growing up too fast, as a question of guys not growing up at all.
They ain't growing up because they is guys. When a guy grows up he becomes man.
My take is that I don't think people need to be dating much at all. At least for quite some time. I never really saw the whole point to dating a person just to date them or to look cool. I also don't see the whole point of needing human contact or needing a relationship to stay sane. To me it seems like the ones picking on the 13 year old who hasn't had a boyfriend yet are a bit superficial.
Judging by some of the comments here, I'm not sure it's as much a question of girls growing up too fast, as a question of guys not growing up at all.
Of course, since men (those in charge) are the ones who promote such negative bodily and social issues in the media, show for all the world to see that they haven't grown up past the age of Hormonius Stagis.
I'm actually really surprised that you were able to read all that out of just a few posts. :P
Look, it's one of those people that Erato was referring to.
Actually, I have more self control and am more mature than most guys my age. I just hate it when people go bashing men and try to pin all the world's problems on us because we're guys.
SERENITY NOW!!
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Show
Insanity Later.
I was thinking more about all the talk about locking them in with a bunch of men in their 30s, or posting their pictures on 4chan.
I've always found the “Men aren't responsible, we better make girls not send the wrong signals, or else the big, bad men will hurt them”-line of thought immensely childish, and pretty insulting towards men. I can think of a lot of reasons girls shouldn't be going into all that too fast, but shaming them or making them uncomfortable in that way to “scare them into acting their age” really just reminds me of my grandfather (a person I don't consider to have ever grown up).
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Sheesh, am I the only teenager, not interested in sex?
You youngin's are hilarious.
I just don't want nasty multi-colored rashes on my privates.
Neither do I. Which is why I control my base instincts and lusts.
You do realize that, ya'know, I was joking when I said that? Seriously, is humour that far gone nowadays?
It's not so much the specific joke, more the line of thought behind it.
After a bunch of posters on Astrid's kept using attacks on feminism as really badly veiled attacks on specific posters or general equality, and people kept referring to radical feminists as an explanation/excuse for it, I made the mistake of looking up some anti-feminist movements, to build an argument as to why it should then be acceptable to attack anyone attacking feminism, because of radical anti-feminists. So basically, I spent a big part of yesterday looking at web-pages full of guys cheering whenever a man killed his wife/ex-wife and children, because it apparently showed the world what men had been 'forced' to do by feminism and modern society in general. So that line of thought (if men aren't accommodated enough, they will do horrible things that they aren't responsible for, therefore society should work on men's terms) was in the forefront of my mind. I didn't mean to imply it wasn't a joke, just that it's not as far away from reality as it should be
and hope nobody takes it the wrong way. I understand where you're coming from though, so no worries. And my heartiest apologies for sounding rude before.
I don't think it's ok for people to cheer a person that killed someone (unless that someone was evil, like Hitler or Bin Laden)
Then combine that with some increasingly bad role models (Paris Hilton) who attempt to use shock media to try to get attention and ratings, and parents who spend less and less time with their families.
Top all THAT off with the fact that the boys have not started getting the funny feelings as much yet (not their fault puberty starts 2-3 years later) and the girls are all sitting there wondering why they don't get the looks from the guys that are expected. Also peer pressure to be cool, as it seems slutty is now "in".
I feel sorry for parents who have 12-13 year old girls. They really have an uphill battle in convincing them that there is nothing wrong with the way they look.
Well yes, there is that negative aspect of it. Which is why I tried to avoid going into detail or making it sound too, you know, like a statement of fact. Next time I will just use a
And my heartiest apologies for sounding rude before.
No problem, I was actually trying to apologise for turning your joke into such a serious topic
If a man kills his ex, then it's HIS fault. The woman drove him nutty with her actions/behavior? Then seperate yourself from her. Murder is never the right choice.
Actually, the murders tend to happen after the wife leaves them (hence why these extremist groups are heavily anti-divorce).
The sad truth is in our society we do have women with far more self esteem issues than men. Women are more emotional to begin with and thus more susceptible to media exposure that may cause issues.
I'm not sure. I think it's different, but I wouldn't say boys aren't affected. But mostly, I think perhaps girls are being taught to be afraid and responsible, and they worry too much and think they'll be worthless if they aren't perfect. And they fall prey to that whole "if you just look right, act right, and use this product, all your troubles will go away (and if you don't, you suck)"-rhetoric the media use whenever they try to sell something. Boys tend to be given fewer responsibilities ("boys will be boys" and all that) and aren't taught to worry in the same way. But when it finally goes wrong, they're also almost universally less prepared to deal with it, hence why so many of them kill themselves, commit violent crimes, or become the victims of violent crimes.
We could at least start with the parents. In my country, parents have asked their daughters to be excused form gym-class because there isn't enough time for them to both shower and do their hair and makeup afterwards, which supposedly is traumatizing for the girls
In my country, parents have asked their daughters to be excused form gym-class because there isn't enough time for them to both shower and do their hair and makeup afterwards, which supposedly is traumatizing for the girls
No... words... can... what!?
They have sex, sell the car.
They do drugs, baseball bat + kneecaps.
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Well, if something can be done about prosti-tots, I'm sure something can be done about irresponsible and emotionally unstable guys. I just don't know what, since my methods would probably be considered a violation of at least a dozen rights......
We could at least start with the parents. In my country, parents have asked their daughters to be excused form gym-class because there isn't enough time for them to both shower and do their hair and makeup afterwards, which supposedly is traumatizing for the girls
WHAT?
Well, if something can be done about prosti-tots, I'm sure something can be done about irresponsible and emotionally unstable guys. I just don't know what, since my methods would probably be considered a violation of at least a dozen rights......
We could at least start with the parents. In my country, parents have asked their daughters to be excused form gym-class because there isn't enough time for them to both shower and do their hair and makeup afterwards, which supposedly is traumatizing for the girls
I'm confused...
I'm confused...
Like that isn't hard to accomplish.
(on the other hand, I think she gained a lot of popularity from everyone but the parents of said kids).For some reason, some people don't get that when your teenage daughter is crying and want to skip school because the nasty gym-teacher forces her to go to class with wet hair, the solution is not to complain to the school, it is to take your daughter far way, perhaps in a canoe or something, to a place where there isn't any showers, or hair products, or even actual toilets, and just keep her there for a week. She'll survive, and it might give her some perspective. But maybe I'm just old-fashioned
Really changes you perspective.
Well, if something can be done about prosti-tots, I'm sure something can be done about irresponsible and emotionally unstable guys. I just don't know what, since my methods would probably be considered a violation of at least a dozen rights......
People just need to have rules for procreation. Ever seen Idiocricy? Yeah...
Personally, I'd suggest a generation or two of all men receiving a vasectomy at age ten, and having to pass an IQ test to have it reversed by age 18. This should not only put a stop to the rampant population growth mankind is doing absolutely nothing to control, but should also inherently increase the average intellect of each person in the following generation.
We could at least start with the parents. In my country, parents have asked their daughters to be excused form gym-class because there isn't enough time for them to both shower and do their hair and makeup afterwards, which supposedly is traumatizing for the girls
Meanwhile, some people just need to be dropped into the Amazon for three days; if they survive, they'll learn a valuable lesson about how important hard work and adversity are to a creating a responsible adult with a good work ethic. Otherwise, they die.
I have family they can stay with so I don't have to go myself.
For some reason, some people don't get that when your teenage daughter is crying and want to skip school because the nasty gym-teacher forces her to go to class with wet hair, the solution is not to complain to the school, it is to take your daughter far way, perhaps in a canoe or something, to a place where there isn't any showers, or hair products, or even actual toilets, and just keep her there for a week. She'll survive, and it might give her some perspective. But maybe I'm just old-fashioned
Exactly.
My little sister needs this treatment badly.
I plan on doing what my folks did when I have a kid: Move back to the country, raise some tough ass kids, then send 'em to the city for jobs.
I just hate it when people go bashing men and try to pin all the world's problems on us because we're guys.
Guys rule the world, women rule the kitchen. If something is messed up in the world, thn we have to freaking take responsibility for it whether we like to or not. If something is wrong with dinner, then the blame lays at the feet of the women and they have to accept. Learn how the world works!:P
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I grew up in farming country, so all the girls I ever grew up with were tough. I mean, in the towns you'd run into a few prissy little princesses (damned Townies!) but even then they were (usually) still tougher then most. After I moved on and away, more notably to Toronto, I started seeing just how... well "sensitive" other girls are. I'm sure there are prissies in the countries, just not where I grew up.
I plan on doing what my folks did when I have a kid: Move back to the country, raise some tough ass kids, then send 'em to the city for jobs.
Is it wrong those girls turn me on?
...A lot...
So recently I overheard these girls talking about this one classmate they have who is apparently SUCH a loser. why? cause she's 13 BUT HASNT HAD A BOYFRIEND YET!!
I blame twighlight
...and hanna montana
....and poweraide
*lists other mortal enemies for several minutes*
...and johny depp
*okay, for several hours*
where I'm from, we feed our women scrap metal, and dont let them out to the surface untill they can physically knock a man down by looking at them intently. so we dont realy have that problem much
of course, we tend to spend a lot of time either running or hiding though.
Miley Cyrus, tough as she may be, is just as bad a role model for girls as any other "Hollywood Goodgirl". Why? Because, contrary to popular belief; they don't exsist. Hollywood drives them all crazy sooner or later, usually sooner.
My point was that what she portrays on television is something young girls could actually learn from and not turn out a prosti-tot.
I think I'm good. I had a whole bunch of kid-in-bag jokes out there just last week or something. *crinkle crinkle*
I've had quite enough of the kid-in-bag jokes!
I've had quite enough of the kid-in-bag jokes!
Who ever said they were jo...
...of course they are jokes."Ooooh, I can't go to class because my hair is wet!!!" Geez. Grow some perspective.
I got no problem with wanting to be hygeinic and presentable and all, but this is school, it's gym class, and it's not going to kill you. It helps that I went to a Catholic school where the girls are raised to be no-nonsense types with downright British-like and very strict nuns.
The oft-cited solution to having wet hair in class is a recommendation to the parents to have it shaved off.
My point was that what she portrays on television is something young girls could actually learn from and not turn out a prosti-tot.
Agreed. The whole Hanna Montana concept is rather silly, but at least she is a character kids can want to be like and not do harm to themselves.
The oft-cited solution to having wet hair in class is a recommendation to the parents to have it shaved off.
My parents shaved my older sister's head after her hair got too tangled to brush. She's fine.
Funnily enough, my younger sister (who didn't receive the same style of parenting) got into that prosti-tots thing.
Totally agree on that. Nothing like a buzz cut to give some people perspective on what matters in life. Works as well on girls as it does on new army recruits.
As a matter of fact, many girls with more sensible heads often prefer their hair short as it requires less maintenance and is cooler in hot weather - strangely enough, the same reasons many men also prefer their hair short.
I've had quite enough of the kid-in-bag jokes!
You didn't see any new ones here, didja? ;)
Gimme a week or so and I'll get back to 'em. :P
I like this idea of shaving 'em bald... Could give them a whole new perspective.
But then you won't have anything to pull when ... uhh.
Oh, teens are too old for the bags. Too ... tall ...
You either get lucky, or you get screwed if you preorder these days.
So, uh. Teens growing up to fast. Crime that.
As a matter of fact, many girls with more sensible heads often prefer their hair short as it requires less maintenance and is cooler in hot weather - strangely enough, the same reasons many men also prefer their hair short.
You do know that's a myth, right? Long hair doesn't make you hotter in warm weather. I'm a man with waist-length hair and I stay quite comfortable at temperatures that make the shaved head crowd uncomfortable.
Although I am an advocate of anything that keeps me from having to wonder if the girl I'm gawking at is at least old enough to vote. At 36 with a child of my own, I find teenagers dressing like hookers rather distasteful*.
*I find adults dressing like hookers distasteful as well, but at least they're old enough to make the decision to demean themselves that way.
They also wonder why people put children in bags. Silly, no?
Ha! My book arrived just as I was typing this! :D :D :D
Cool! Crack that sucker open an' start readin'! I wasn't as impressed with the other classes as I'd hoped, but Sorceror spoke to me. I must play a semi-crazed Halfling Wild Sorceror! And so I shall. :D Druid looked kind of cool. So did Invoker. I may play one eventually. I didn't read the Warden much at all.
You do know that's a myth, right? Long hair doesn't make you hotter in warm weather. I'm a man with waist-length hair and I stay quite comfortable at temperatures that make the shaved head crowd uncomfortable.
I've found the opposite to be true. My head is much cooler now that I keep my hair short, and landscaping was much more enjoyable with short hair.
Of course, I have fairly thick hair so any amount of length (mid back at my longest) means quite a bit of hair (when I got my hair cut a 2 years ago, the stylist said they'd be able to make 3 wigs for cancer patients from my shoulder length hair).
So recently I overheard these girls talking about this one classmate they have who is apparently SUCH a loser. why? cause she's 13 BUT HASNT HAD A BOYFRIEND YET!!
[rant about music and tv]
*sigh* Fine. When you put 'em in a bag and take 'em into a mall bathroom or dressing room or whatever. Happy now? Well, are ya'?
Bad Z_B!
Bad Z_B!
Hey! It wasn't my fault this time! You seen 'em eggin' me on!
Hey! It wasn't my fault this time! You seen 'em eggin' me on!
You left the line hanging. You invited it.
You left the line hanging. You invited it.
Nuh uh! I even said I wasn't gonna do it! He made me! You seen it! I even sighed before I said it!
You do know that's a myth, right? Long hair doesn't make you hotter in warm weather. I'm a man with waist-length hair and I stay quite comfortable at temperatures that make the shaved head crowd uncomfortable.
I'm a fairly long-haired dude, and I have to disagree. Short hair is cooler in hot weather.
I think we should defer to our resident expert. Crossroads? Tell the man.
This one isn't completely off the tracks yet, though. Artificial threadsemination relates loosely back to the topic of octomom. So it's kindasorta hangin' in there. ;)
And, completely on topic: 4thEPHB2 rawks the socks. Seriously. I'm not into PG or OP, so I don't care much for all the subtle intricacy or what may be "broken" here or there, but fluff wise?
about that one bit. :DTomorrow I'm gonna read more and make a Sorc. I just need to find out if he'll be level 11 or if we're starting over at level 1. I'd prefer the latter, but I can deal with Paragon, too. I just hope my group mates also make new stuff. We're striker heave as it is and I'm fairly certain my Sorc won't Control as well as my Staffizzie.
Plus, +2/+2 Str/Dex? Absolutely spot on!
I hope they weren't made too beautiful or else WotC has destroyed one of my favorite races. I guess I could always go with full blooded Orcs in the future.I hope they weren't made too beautiful or else WotC has destroyed one of my favorite races.
Not beautiful in the same way one human would compare to another human, understand? Beautiful as in... they look like a race of their own outside of both humanity and orcish blood; they don't look fugly, but their certainly not "beautiful" like an Elf. Compare them to, say a Tiefling. Tiefling are not beautiful creatures (depending on who you ask), but of themselves they carry their own brand of beauty and charisma.
Eh, I'm not good at explaining things like this. My bad.
Oh, yea. Naughty teens. I keep forgetting. :angelhide
Oh, *crinkle crinkle*
And this is why I love the OOT. The other forums are all full of stuffies who would rather debate and argue then just enjoy discussing what binds us all together in that enjoyment. It's... fairly depressing actually.
Not beautiful in the same way one human would compare to another human, understand? Beautiful as in... they look like a race of their own outside of both humanity and orcish blood; they don't look fugly, but their certainly not "beautiful" like an Elf. Compare them to, say a Tiefling. Tiefling are not beautiful creatures (depending on who you ask), but of themselves they carry their own brand of beauty and charisma.
First things first. Elves are not, and never have been, beautiful. Tieflings are good looking. I liked how 3e Half-Orcs looked. I hate how everyone sees elves as the measure of beauty because they aren't beautiful.
. I hate how everyone sees elves as the measure of beauty because they aren't beautiful.
Well I was only using them as a comparison in "general". :P
Why exactly were you "rubbing" a soda can? And if a genie popped out wouldn't you rather "rub" it than ask it for things?
On a more serious [!] note, I just saw an episode on the TV news about an eleven year old girl who had tried to kill herself by slitting her wrists. Apparently it was because she felt ugly; she had dressed herself up in make-up and a skirt and none of the boys in school complimented her or gave her any more notice then usual. *sigh*
protsi-tot fail
On a more serious [!] note, I just saw an episode on the TV news about an eleven year old girl who had tried to kill herself by slitting her wrists. Apparently it was because she felt ugly; she had dressed herself up in make-up and a skirt and none of the boys in school complimented her or gave her any more notice then usual. *sigh*
Maybe that's because the boys are 11 and still think that girls have cooties. I don't know but it's just a theory.
I won't post a link, but feel free to go to youtube and type "chappelle 15" and hit the video. Sometimes, there just are plain ole silly double standards.
It's no myth. Aside from the thousands of women and men who have experimented with both and found long hair warmer, there's also scientific facts that can be extrapolated to further the theory.
The scalp is one of the most capillary and blood-rich areas of the body. In warm weather, the hair acts as a insulating agent, which prohibits that area from being used as a radiator for body heat. In contrast, a person with short hair will find it much easier to get air circulating to his bare skin and be cooler off that way.
Hair can make you cooler if it's shielding you from the direct rays of the burning sun, but frankly, a hat does that a whole lot better and assuming that the hat breathes, you still get cooler air through your head, too.
Hair can make you cooler if it's shielding you from the direct rays of the burning sun, but frankly, a hat does that a whole lot better and assuming that the hat breathes, you still get cooler air through your head, too.
A roof is even better!
But why is there this cultural drive, over the last generation or two, to decrease the generational period of humans? Is there some enviornmental factor causing humanity as a whole to belive, on a subconscious level, that increasing our population is the best survival strategy?
It isn't a survival strategy, it is marketing trying to expand their range in order to reach the previously untapped market group, the tweens. Their method for reaching this group was to try to sell adulthood to them. Then this marketing attempt mixed with USA's obsessive sexualization of youth in females, which at the same time was selling the image of the loose teenager as an idealized form of beauty(ok maybe not beauty, but I'm not sure of what word I should use there). So the image of a loose teenager was thereby indirectly sold to younger girls, and I think they have just decided to cut out the middleman making it more apparent recently. At least that is my take on it.
Nah, don't worry, Reg06; I may be chained in Asgard, but I have a nice view into the Far Realm from here; they won't show up 'till Ragnarok, at least, and I don't think that'll happen anytime soon... Damn it.
Didn't you get the memo? The world ends in 2012. That means either Ragnarok has either been cancelled or is scheduled to happen in 3 years. Unfortunatly the memo wasn't from Odin, so we are still waiting for word regarding whether Ragnarok is still on or not.:P
Didn't you get the memo? The world ends in 2012. That means either Ragnarok has either been cancelled or is scheduled to happen in 3 years. Unfortunatly the memo wasn't from Odin, so we are still waiting for word regarding whether Ragnarok is still on or not.:P
Yeah, well, Odin's a notoriously bad Bookkeeper; he probably lost it in that junk yard he calls a desk. Honestly, that wasn't the way we ran it back in Jotunheim... Lazy bastards...
goblin pride:
It's no myth. Aside from the thousands of women and men who have experimented with both and found long hair warmer, there's also scientific facts that can be extrapolated to further the theory.
The scalp is one of the most capillary and blood-rich areas of the body. In warm weather, the hair acts as a insulating agent, which prohibits that area from being used as a radiator for body heat. In contrast, a person with short hair will find it much easier to get air circulating to his bare skin and be cooler off that way.
Hair can make you cooler if it's shielding you from the direct rays of the burning sun, but frankly, a hat does that a whole lot better and assuming that the hat breathes, you still get cooler air through your head, too.
I want to address this from a while back.
Actually long hair can be a boon in hot weather. Sweating is good in hot weather because it cools you down when the wind blows. Even when the wind isn't blowing that hard, sweat is usually a few degrees cooler than the skin next to it. Long hair makes you sweat more, and it captures the sweat. This makes you cooler when the wind blows. It's also not that hard to put your hair into a high ponytail if you don't want sweaty hair on you. I can understand an aversion to sweating, but it does have a biological function. Long hair is also decent at shielding you from the sun.
I have had long hair my whole life, and I'm a redhead, which means that the sun and I don't get along all that well :P, but I've survived plenty of hot days. Summers don't usually get really hot where I live, but we've had our 98 degree days. One year at Warped Tour, I wore my hair down and didn't put on enough sunscreen. It was 98 degrees. I sweated a whole lot, but it kept me pretty cool after I got over being all sweaty. My hair also provided some shielding from the sun and my sunburn wasn't as bad as it should have been.
*Butt pinch*
*Runs*
Since it's become a running gag:
*Butt pinch*
-snip-
*Runs*
Stalker.
Y'know, I'm actually getting kinda offended right now. I didn't know OTT allowed the insulting of RL religions (I understand that this is tongue-in-cheek, but I still find it offensive).
What RL religion was insulted? Closest things I can find in the past page are a couple of jokes about norse paganism(which I'm pretty sure is considered to be a dead religion), a joke about referencing Cthulhu mythology(which I'm 99% sure is not a religion), and an off hand reference to the end of the mayan calendar. Am I missing something or are you referring to something further back in the thread then I feel like looking?
I think he was referring to the norse religion that you're calling both pagan and dead, even though it does have some adherents.
As to the Mayan apocalypse that everyone seems so fascinated with lately, you do realize that it's not the end of this physical world that's coming, right? It's nothing more than the turning of an age, the passing of a millenium, or the ending of any other extremely large measurement of time. If it spelled the end, how did the universe survive the last time the Mayan calendar rolled over to the beginning again? Considering that this isn't the first time the Mayan calendar has ended, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
That was it. People still follow it, so it ain't dead. It began to resurrect in 20th century (can't recall the year) Scandinavia.
I think he was referring to the norse religion that you're calling both pagan and dead, even though it does have some adherents.
It is by definition a pagan religion. And it's less dead and more utterly irrelevant.
Anyway, I'd like to add something. Why is it that nearly every American movie has a romantic subplot crammed in whether it belongs or not?
To paraphrase Ben Croshaw, if we went to an alternate universe where regardless of content every movie had a country line-dancing sequence, we'd think they were insane.
Y'know, I'm actually getting kinda offended right now. I didn't know OTT allowed the insulting of RL religions (I understand that this is tongue-in-cheek, but I still find it offensive).
Look, dude, I'm not trying to be an A-Hole or anything, I'm just screwing around; hell, if some one wants to make fun of Atheism (my "Religion"... or is it "Anti-Religion"? Ah, who cares), as long as the joke's funny, I'll laugh my ass off!
And, to any followers of Norse Neopaganism on this board that were offended:
I wasn't trying to offend you. I apologize if I did. If it's any consolation, because I don't actually worship Odin, there's always that chance that I'll get to go to Helheim when I die. So, yeah.
It is by definition a pagan religion. And it's less dead and more utterly irrelevant.
Anyway, I'd like to add something. Why is it that nearly every American movie has a romantic subplot crammed in whether it belongs or not?
To paraphrase Ben Croshaw, if we went to an alternate universe where regardless of content every movie had a country line-dancing sequence, we'd think they were insane.
I concur! There in every action movie, every book... It's freakin' rediculous! Ya' know, just ONCE, I'd like to go to a so-called "Action" movie where the majority of it is, in fact, ACTION!!!!!!!!!
I think he was referring to the norse religion that you're calling both pagan and dead, even though it does have some adherents.
As to the Mayan apocalypse that everyone seems so fascinated with lately, you do realize that it's not the end of this physical world that's coming, right? It's nothing more than the turning of an age, the passing of a millenium, or the ending of any other extremely large measurement of time. If it spelled the end, how did the universe survive the last time the Mayan calendar rolled over to the beginning again? Considering that this isn't the first time the Mayan calendar has ended, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Norse paganism is the name of the original religion though(well name that is used in modern times, I have a feeling they din't really have a name for it when it was in use). Although upon further looking it seems the revival is called Germanic Neopaganism or alternativel Asatru.
And yes I am fully aware that it is simply the end of a time period of a calendar. Hence why I referred to it in my last post as being the end of the calendar not the end of the world. That doesn't mean I can't enjoy saying the world is going to end on internet forums and the like.
That was it. People still follow it, so it ain't dead. It began to resurrect in 20th century (can't recall the year) Scandinavia.
Well then my apologies as I had no intent to offend. It is simply that the norse gods and such have entered to collective unconscience just as many other beings of other polytheistic religions. As such it is hard at times to remember that they were once held in awe and I was unaware that they still were.
Anyway, I'd like to add something. Why is it that nearly every American movie has a romantic subplot crammed in whether it belongs or not?
To paraphrase Ben Croshaw, if we went to an alternate universe where regardless of content every movie had a country line-dancing sequence, we'd think they were insane.
It is for a multitude of reasons. It helps force heteronormativity down our throats. It helps diversify the audience that will see the movie(no idea why that works). Also it is tradition at this point I think.
Sweat on bare skin or short hair does a great deal better job of cooling you than the same on long hair. It's the difference between sweating in a cotton shirt and sweating naked. One of those is MUCH cooler.
While hair can serve to shield you from solar radiation and radiative heat, as humans we don't really have need of it since a proper hat does the job much better without sacrificing air circulation around your scalp.
EDIT: Even better real-world example. In the desert, people wear long layered robes. According to your logic, it would be highly impractical to do so, and they would be better off going in shorts and a t-shirt. Yet the robes were developed as standard clothing because they keep people cooler than skimpy clothing can.
Cotton is good for everyday use, but not for anything outdoors-related in anywhere that might get too cold.
Are you guys actually arguing about hats, skin, sweat, long hair, shorts and neekidness? :P
Yup. I'm a science geek, and I like to debate. And I have experience with this particular point, so I'm more likely to debate it. :D
Don't mind the camera.
That's smily for "go to hell." :D
We going to do this experiment? :D
WAAH! I WANT A LAWYER! I WANT TO SUE THAT BASTARD! HE TOUCHED THE NAUGHTY PLACE! WAAH!Bane, you never told us about what you do in your free time.
And I'm not a stripper!
:P
I'm your friendly neighborhood serial killer.
Funny thing is I'm religious and a celibate.
But yeah, you're dead now, so SHUT UP!!
Also I cancel Calories with more Calories.
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Marked for demolition, I'm
Just a time bomb, ticking inside,
No hope for the hopeless;
I can see the pieces, all laid out in front of me.
No point even asking why,
Couldn't help, even if you tried.
Step aside, or you might just be
the next contestant to feel the brutality.
Devastation, Obliteration,
all to the point of exacerbation,
no explaining my situation now.
Why does this **** keep happening to me?
I've held on too long, just to let it go now,
Will my inner strength, get me through it somehow?
Defying the curse that has taken hold,
Never surrender, I'll never be overcome.
Too dark for forgiveness, I
Can't seem to do anything right,
When I try to rebuild,
I see my humble shelter
Just fall to the ground again.
Object of an evil eye,
No point to let anyone try.
Take heed, my friend;
Lest you be torn asunder, like all that's become of me.
Decimation, Disintegration,
Beyond the point of imagination,
No explaining my situation.
Why does this **** keep happening to me?
Marked for demolition, I'm
Just a time bomb, ticking inside,
No hope for the hopeless;
I can see the pieces, all laid out in front of me.
No point even asking why,
Couldn't help, even if you tried.
Step aside, or you might just be
the next contestant to feel the brutality.
Devastation, Obliteration,
all to the point of exacerbation,
no explaining my situation now.
Why does this **** keep happening to me?
I've held on too long, just to let it go now,
Will my inner strength, get me through it somehow?
Defying the curse that has taken hold,
Never surrender, I'll never be overcome.
Too dark for forgiveness, I
Can't seem to do anything right,
When I try to rebuild,
I see my humble shelter
Just fall to the ground again.
Object of an evil eye,
No point to let anyone try.
Take heed, my friend;
Lest you be torn asunder, like all that's become of me.
Decimation, Disintegration,
Beyond the point of imagination,
No explaining my situation.
Why does this **** keep happening to me?
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Another mission the powers have called me away
Another time to carry the colors again
My motivation an oath I've sworn to defend
To win the honor of coming back home again
No explanation will matter after we begin
Unlock the dark destroyer that's buried within
My true vocation and now my unfortunate friend
You will discover a war you're unable to win
I'll have you know
That I've become
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while you're alive
I'm an indestructible
Master of war
Another reason another cause for me to fight
Another fuse uncovered now for me to light
My dedication to all that I've sworn to protect
I carry out my orders without a regret
My declaration embedded deep under my skin
A permanent reminder of how it began
No hesitation when I am commanded to strike
You need to know that you're in for the fight of your life
You will be shown
How I've become
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while your alive
I'm an indestructible
Master of war!
I'm
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while your alive
I am indestructible
Indestructible
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while your alive
I'm an indestructible
Master of war!
Another mission the powers have called me away
Another time to carry the colors again
My motivation an oath I've sworn to defend
To win the honor of coming back home again
No explanation will matter after we begin
Unlock the dark destroyer that's buried within
My true vocation and now my unfortunate friend
You will discover a war you're unable to win
I'll have you know
That I've become
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while you're alive
I'm an indestructible
Master of war
Another reason another cause for me to fight
Another fuse uncovered now for me to light
My dedication to all that I've sworn to protect
I carry out my orders without a regret
My declaration embedded deep under my skin
A permanent reminder of how it began
No hesitation when I am commanded to strike
You need to know that you're in for the fight of your life
You will be shown
How I've become
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while your alive
I'm an indestructible
Master of war!
I'm
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while your alive
I am indestructible
Indestructible
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible
Take a last look around while your alive
I'm an indestructible
Master of war!
lrn2criticize, n00b.
because I'm bored.In bane's defense, there's no angst to that song. That's just good old angry white boy music. Nothing wrong with that.
lrn2criticize, n00b.
I think the song was made to make soldiers feel all kickass and unstoppable when they went to go kill terrorists.....
It isn't a survival strategy, it is marketing trying to expand their range in order to reach the previously untapped market group, the tweens. Their method for reaching this group was to try to sell adulthood to them. Then this marketing attempt mixed with USA's obsessive sexualization of youth in females, which at the same time was selling the image of the loose teenager as an idealized form of beauty(ok maybe not beauty, but I'm not sure of what word I should use there). So the image of a loose teenager was thereby indirectly sold to younger girls, and I think they have just decided to cut out the middleman making it more apparent recently. At least that is my take on it.
Marketing does not have the ability to act independently aginst the will of the majority of the populace in its area. If what your selling, or the manner in which you are trying to sell it, is offensive to most, then you wont sell anything, and may face repurcussions. Thus marketing cannot be the root cause, as something caused it to be acceptible enough for them to attempt to make money off it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxncDD0aGLs
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Blood gushes from the wound
The cut is wide and deep
Right before I turn around
He falls to his knees
A clear song rings in the blades
When steel meets hardened steel
I hear the sound of wood that breaks
A sword cut through my shield
I drop the shield and grab my axe
A weapon in each fist
The first blow makes the helmet crack
The axe cut to the teeth
I rip the axe from the head
covered in blood and brains
Leave the body lying dead
Ready to strike again
My sword cuts through clothes and skin
Like a hot knife cuts through snow
I smile as the bastard screams
when I twist my sword
Sword in my hand
Axe on my side
Valhall awaits me
Soon I will Die
Sword in my hand
Axe on my side
Valhall awaits me
When I die
Bearskin on my back
Wolfjaw on my head
Valhall awaits me
When I'm dead
I raise my axe above my head
My eyes turned furious rage
Yet more blood will be shed
This is a victorious day!
Blood gushes from the wound
The cut is wide and deep
As I turn around
I fall to my knees
The cut is wide and deep
Right before I turn around
He falls to his knees
A clear song rings in the blades
When steel meets hardened steel
I hear the sound of wood that breaks
A sword cut through my shield
I drop the shield and grab my axe
A weapon in each fist
The first blow makes the helmet crack
The axe cut to the teeth
I rip the axe from the head
covered in blood and brains
Leave the body lying dead
Ready to strike again
My sword cuts through clothes and skin
Like a hot knife cuts through snow
I smile as the bastard screams
when I twist my sword
Sword in my hand
Axe on my side
Valhall awaits me
Soon I will Die
Sword in my hand
Axe on my side
Valhall awaits me
When I die
Bearskin on my back
Wolfjaw on my head
Valhall awaits me
When I'm dead
I raise my axe above my head
My eyes turned furious rage
Yet more blood will be shed
This is a victorious day!
Blood gushes from the wound
The cut is wide and deep
As I turn around
I fall to my knees
Let it all out! We're here to help. :P
This is incorrect.
We are here to point, snicker, giggle, chortle, laugh, deride, and generally abuse him for our own enjoyment.
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Raise your swords up high!
See the black birds fly!
Let them hear your rage!
Show no fear!
Attack!
Charge your horses across the fields
Together we ride into destiny
Have no fear of death, when it's your time
Oden will bring us home when we die!
The ground trembles under us
As we make our thunder charge
The pounding hooves strikes blinding fear
Into their heart
Our helmets shine in the sun
As we near their wall of shields
Some of them turn and run
When they hear our frenzied screams
Draw your swords to strike
Hear the Black Birds cry!
Let them feel your hate!
Show no fear!
(Attack! Attack! Attack! Attack!)
Charge your horses across the fields
Together we ride into destiny
Have no fear of death, when it's your time
Oden will bring us home when we die!
The enemies are in disarray
Ride them down as they run
Send them to their violent graves,
Don't spare anyone
Dead and wounded lie all around,
See the pain in their eyes
Over the field an eerie sound,
As we hear the ravens' cry
See the black birds fly!
Let them hear your rage!
Show no fear!
Attack!
Charge your horses across the fields
Together we ride into destiny
Have no fear of death, when it's your time
Oden will bring us home when we die!
The ground trembles under us
As we make our thunder charge
The pounding hooves strikes blinding fear
Into their heart
Our helmets shine in the sun
As we near their wall of shields
Some of them turn and run
When they hear our frenzied screams
Draw your swords to strike
Hear the Black Birds cry!
Let them feel your hate!
Show no fear!
(Attack! Attack! Attack! Attack!)
Charge your horses across the fields
Together we ride into destiny
Have no fear of death, when it's your time
Oden will bring us home when we die!
The enemies are in disarray
Ride them down as they run
Send them to their violent graves,
Don't spare anyone
Dead and wounded lie all around,
See the pain in their eyes
Over the field an eerie sound,
As we hear the ravens' cry
It's because of the way that our society focuses on such unimportant things that most teenagers are so obsessed with it.
Ah, teenagers are morons anyway lol.
If what your selling, or the manner in which you are trying to sell it, is offensive to most, then you wont sell anything, and may face repurcussions
Well there goes my idea for gummi flavored roofies.
Mooooooooooooar angst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN4CVwhfr9w