He kinda has a point

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#1

zombie_babies

Nov 01, 2012 15:58:56
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The dood talks a lot but so do the peeps that say he shouldn't have a shot when they said no when one was offered to them.
#2

KillerGM

Nov 01, 2012 16:42:04
I'm sorry, but isn't this like wrestling, where they just pick people to fight each other to make it "entertaining"?
#3

KillerGM

Nov 01, 2012 16:57:36
Don't get me wrong - those guys really know how to beat the crap out of each other, and it is entertaining (I watched the Ultimate Fighter first or second season - whichever with Forrest Griffin).

But I really thought match-ups were just whims of the promoters.
#4

draco1119

Nov 01, 2012 18:08:19
Yup yup. Hipster Cat prefers to watch fully naked men hugging.
#5

KillerGM

Nov 01, 2012 18:34:28
Yup yup. Hipster Cat prefers to watch fully naked men hugging.


Not that there's anything wrong with that.
#6

ADHadh

Nov 01, 2012 18:38:36
And here I thought HC didn't discriminate and/or waste opportunities.
#7

KillerGM

Nov 01, 2012 18:39:43
I know, right? I think the zombie outbreak may have adversely affected him.
#8

draco1119

Nov 01, 2012 20:25:51
How should we know?
#9

homicidal_squirrel

Nov 01, 2012 20:56:17
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The dood talks a lot but so do the peeps that say he shouldn't have a shot when they said no when one was offered to them.

Yup, Sonnen was the only one to say yes every single time a match with Jones was offered. Henderson should be thanking Sonnen for stepping in and taking the severe beating that Henderson would have gotten.Machida talks a lot of BS. He said he would have taken Jones's arm home to Brazil if he had been in Vitor's position. He should have taken the fight when offered to him... twice! 

#10

zombie_babies

Nov 02, 2012 8:29:16
Don't get me wrong - those guys really know how to beat the crap out of each other, and it is entertaining (I watched the Ultimate Fighter first or second season - whichever with Forrest Griffin).

But I really thought match-ups were just whims of the promoters.



That was TUF1.  TUF pretty much sucks now.

Believe it or not, they typically make people fight a bunch before they're given a title shot.  Most cases, talk isn't enough.  It's actually why people are upset about Sonnen getting the shot.  He hasn't fought 205 in like 6 or 8 years or something.  But yeah, they try to keep some meaning behind the belts.  This is not one of those times.  Then again, it's not like there's many guys that have resumes good enough to justify a fight with Bones.  Sonnen took perhaps the best fighter in the world to 5 rounds the first time they fought ... and ... and he sells tickets and PPVs cuz ... cuz he talks a great game. 

Srsly, though, it's usually not like this.  And Sonnen is srsly funny.

Yup, Sonnen was the only one to say yes every single time a match with Jones was offered. Henderson should be thanking Sonnen for stepping in and taking the severe beating that Henderson would have gotten.Machida talks a lot of BS. He said he would have taken Jones's arm home to Brazil if he had been in Vitor's position. He should have taken the fight when offered to him... twice! 



Yeah, it's easy to say you'd take the guy's arm home when you weren't in the cage.  Doesn't make a lot of sense after he choked you unconscious once and you refused to fight him again after that, though.  And I can't figure why Hendo is bent out of shape.  It's not like he actually deserved his shot anyway. 
#11

KillerGM

Nov 02, 2012 8:51:29
Don't get me wrong - those guys really know how to beat the crap out of each other, and it is entertaining (I watched the Ultimate Fighter first or second season - whichever with Forrest Griffin).

But I really thought match-ups were just whims of the promoters.



That was TUF1.  TUF pretty much sucks now.

Believe it or not, they typically make people fight a bunch before they're given a title shot.  Most cases, talk isn't enough.  It's actually why people are upset about Sonnen getting the shot.  He hasn't fought 205 in like 6 or 8 years or something.  But yeah, they try to keep some meaning behind the belts.  This is not one of those times.  Then again, it's not like there's many guys that have resumes good enough to justify a fight with Bones.  Sonnen took perhaps the best fighter in the world to 5 rounds the first time they fought ... and ... and he sells tickets and PPVs cuz ... cuz he talks a great game. 

Srsly, though, it's usually not like this.  And Sonnen is srsly funny.



Oh hey, I'm not knocking it. Talking a good game is important in sports. So is riling everyone up over who "deserves" to fight so that more people watch!
#12

homicidal_squirrel

Nov 02, 2012 9:05:24
Yeah, it's easy to say you'd take the guy's arm home when you weren't in the cage.  Doesn't make a lot of sense after he choked you unconscious once and you refused to fight him again after that, though.  And I can't figure why Hendo is bent out of shape.  It's not like he actually deserved his shot anyway.

Yeah, Hendo should just shut up and let Sonnen fight. Hell, he stayed quiet long enough to mess up an entire fight card, he may as well stay quiet now. And he really didn't do anything amazing to earn a title shot. He beat Shogun... after what? Five rounds? It was a long, drawn out fight. Sure, it wasn't totally boring, but compare that to the beat down Jones put on Shogun for two and a half rounds. Shogun quit. He tapped out from the pumeling he was getting. Roided up henderson couldn't do it. Really, the only reason you want to see Henderson fight Jones is to watch Jons knock out the rest of Henderson's teeth. And the only reason you want to watch Sonnen fight Jones is to watch Jones shut Sonen up. It'll be awesome to watch that!



#13

zombie_babies

Nov 02, 2012 10:33:53
Oh hey, I'm not knocking it. Talking a good game is important in sports. So is riling everyone up over who "deserves" to fight so that more people watch!



Yeah, Sonnen is really good at that.  And wrestling.  That's about all, though.  But dood is he funny.  He talks the best smack in the game.  It's all an act, of course.  I mean, part of the funny is that he's always got this eating grin on his face cuz even he can't believe the crap he's saying.  Totally awesome to listen to and he makes a decent punching bag, too.

Yeah, Hendo should just shut up and let Sonnen fight. Hell, he stayed quiet long enough to mess up an entire fight card, he may as well stay quiet now. And he really didn't do anything amazing to earn a title shot. He beat Shogun... after what? Five rounds? It was a long, drawn out fight. Sure, it wasn't totally boring, but compare that to the beat down Jones put on Shogun for two and a half rounds. Shogun quit. He tapped out from the pumeling he was getting. Roided up henderson couldn't do it. Really, the only reason you want to see Henderson fight Jones is to watch Jons knock out the rest of Henderson's teeth. And the only reason you want to watch Sonnen fight Jones is to watch Jones shut Sonen up. It'll be awesome to watch that!



Yeah, it was like he thought he could heal up quick enough or something.  At his age.  With no roids or HGH or test (cuz they'd be testing him soon).  Yeah, right.  That's why I don't hate that Sonnen gets the shot.  At least he's someone Jones hasn't already annihilated, yanno?
#14

homicidal_squirrel

Nov 02, 2012 11:16:11
Yeah, it was like he thought he could heal up quick enough or something.  At his age.  With no roids or HGH or test (cuz they'd be testing him soon).  Yeah, right.  That's why I don't hate that Sonnen gets the shot.  At least he's someone Jones hasn't already annihilated, yanno?

Henderson actually got a TRT pass. He was roided up for the Fedor fight. He was also roided up for the Shogun fight. I'm sure he was roided up when a lesser fighter helped him inure his knee (probably defending a take down). That knee inury was the best thing that could have hapened to him. Jone swould have taken him down with ease and elbowed Henderson to the point they would need a mop to clean up the mat inbetween rounds... if Henderson made it to the next round.

#15

zombie_babies

Nov 02, 2012 11:39:21
Yeah, his age and roid induced feebleness spared him a severe beating.  Sonnen won't be so lucky.
#16

homicidal_squirrel

Nov 02, 2012 13:42:54
Yeah, his age and roid induced feebleness spared him a severe beating.  Sonnen won't be so lucky.

Sonnen will still be roided up, but it won't matter. He won't be so lucky, but we'll be lucky to see the epic beating he is going to get. It'll be so bad, afterwards Jones will be charged with a hate crime.

#17

zombie_babies

Nov 02, 2012 14:06:48
Heh, I doubt that.  Cuz, you know, it's not a crime to hate Sonnen. 
#18

homicidal_squirrel

Nov 02, 2012 20:35:05
Heh, I doubt that.  Cuz, you know, it's not a crime to hate Sonnen. 

True... It's a requirement.

#19

The_Silversword

Nov 06, 2012 1:49:33
This ****'s getting just as fake as Wrestling, or boxing.

and im starting to think that football is rigged too!  
#20

zombie_babies

Nov 06, 2012 9:03:25
Huh?  Loki, is that you? 
#21

The_Silversword

Nov 07, 2012 3:07:30
I never once mentioned the shadow government, although...

Anyway, Im just sayin if theyre not going to use some sort of rating system and they just pick whoever for a title match, I mean the other guys are probably thinkin what was the point of all this **** i been doin, so now guys are going to be more concerned with getting fan support to bring in the ratings or whatever, everyone will have to have some sort of gimmik, just like wrestling. 
#22

homicidal_squirrel

Nov 07, 2012 9:03:41
I never once mentioned the shadow government, although...

Anyway, Im just sayin if theyre not going to use some sort of rating system and they just pick whoever for a title match, I mean the other guys are probably thinkin what was the point of all this **** i been doin, so now guys are going to be more concerned with getting fan support to bring in the ratings or whatever, everyone will have to have some sort of gimmik, just like wrestling. 

Actually, while Sonnen doesn't deserve the title shot, and people really want to see the fight just to see Sonnen crushed, those other guys all said no to the title shot when it was offered to them. So yeah, they wasted their time by saying no. Next time they should just man up. As for Henderson, he should have told White he had been inuured when it happened, not a week before the fight. 

#23

zombie_babies

Nov 07, 2012 9:08:00
I never once mentioned the shadow government, although...

Anyway, Im just sayin if theyre not going to use some sort of rating system and they just pick whoever for a title match, I mean the other guys are probably thinkin what was the point of all this **** i been doin, so now guys are going to be more concerned with getting fan support to bring in the ratings or whatever, everyone will have to have some sort of gimmik, just like wrestling. 



dood, this is the exception, not the rule.  Aside from that, Jones has already dismantled everyone with a legitimate claim to a shot anyway.