He totally deserved it...

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#1

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 10:17:13
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#2

Maxperson

Jun 15, 2011 10:20:13
I thought we decided to let the sheep take care of the child problem.
#3

pluisjen

Jun 15, 2011 10:22:32
Let ****es do it, then jail them. Solve two problems at once.
#4

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 10:22:37
I'm pretty sure that this is totally legal, at least in a lot of places (I love living in Georgia). I still think that it's excessive, though. I mean, I would have just brought out my shotgun and shot it over at the ground or something to scare them. Though, I don't know the entire situation.
#5

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 10:24:34
I thought we decided to let the sheep take care of the child problem.


The sheep was busy. It was making extra money for "entertainment." That's what happens when you disturb a sheep and its client...
#6

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 10:25:45
I'm pretty sure that this is totally legal, at least in a lot of places (I love living in Georgia). I still think that it's excessive, though. I mean, I would have just brought out my shotgun and shot it over at the ground or something to scare them. Though, I don't know the entire situation.


Really? Are you being serious?
#7

pluisjen

Jun 15, 2011 10:26:09
I'm pretty sure that this is totally legal,



It's legal to shoot people who ring your doorbell? You must not get a lot of door to door salesmen. 
#8

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 10:47:40
Really? Are you being serious?

Depends. What part are you asking about?
#9

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 10:54:12
Really? Are you being serious?

Depends. What part are you asking about?


The living in Georgia part. Not that you love it, but that you actually live there. Maybe the shooting the ground part.
#10

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 10:57:03
It is obvious the kids should have been armed to defend themselves.


That's why the kid deserved it. If he had been smart, he would have been armed. Seriously, what are public schools teaching these days? Why wasn't there a single teacher that told him to always have a gun on him?
#11

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 10:57:23
The living in Georgia part. Not that you love it, but that you actually live there. Maybe the shooting the ground part.

I live a gnat's ass away from Atlanta, yes.
Also, if these little jerks have done this before and I've told their parents, then yeah, I see nothing wrong with harmlessly shooting my shotgun off to the side to give them a good scare.
#12

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 11:02:11
I live a gnat's ass away from Atlanta, yes.


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Also, if these little jerks have done this before and I've told their parents, then yeah, I see nothing wrong with harmlessly shooting my shotgun off to the side to give them a good scare.



#13

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 11:03:08
^_^
#14

pluisjen

Jun 15, 2011 11:13:04
I'm not so much surprised that people would shoot their shotgun (whether harmlessly or to kill) at annoying kids...

But legal

You can seriously shoot people that ring your doorbell legally

How does anyone feel safe visiting another person? 

#15

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 11:16:28
I'm not so much surprised that people would shoot their shotgun (whether harmlessly or to kill) at annoying kids...

But legal

You can seriously shoot people that ring your doorbell legally

How does anyone feel safe visiting another person? 



Somewhere out there it is probably legal to shoot people for not ringing your doorbell. 
#16

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 11:26:31
I'm not so much surprised that people would shoot their shotgun (whether harmlessly or to kill) at annoying kids...
But legal
You can seriously shoot people that ring your doorbell legally?

Sure. If somebody's harassing you on your property after you've asked them to stop and leave or asked them not to be there to begin with, then you can legally shoot them, again depending on where you live. Also depending on where you live, there may be other stipulations. For example, you may or may not be able to shoot them in the back or as they are in the process of leaving your property.
#17

jetshield

Jun 15, 2011 11:27:19
#18

pluisjen

Jun 15, 2011 11:29:03
Sure. If somebody's harassing you on your property after you've asked them to stop and leave or asked them not to be there to begin with, then you can legally shoot them, again depending on where you live. Also depending on where you live, there may be other stipulations. For example, you may or may not be able to shoot them in the back or as they are in the process of leaving your property.



I'll add Georgia to my list of "places never to visit" :/ 
#19

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 11:31:55
I'll add Georgia to my list of "places never to visit" :/ 

I promise it's really not that bad, at least not this close to Atlanta. Atlanta is like this little island paradise in the middle of a sea of... well, exactly what you probably expect from Georgia. But Atlanta and the immediately surrounding area is pretty nice, especially for us gays. (As evidence, I'm no longer as up to date on my "shooting people on my property" laws as I used to be.)
#20

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 11:34:08
I'm not so much surprised that people would shoot their shotgun (whether harmlessly or to kill) at annoying kids...
But legal
You can seriously shoot people that ring your doorbell legally?

Sure. If somebody's harassing you on your property after you've asked them to stop and leave or asked them not to be there to begin with, then you can legally shoot them, again depending on where you live. Also depending on where you live, there may be other stipulations. For example, you may or may not be able to shoot them in the back or as they are in the process of leaving your property.


Those damn technicalities are limiting my ability to defend myself!


You can always claim those technicalities were ringing your doorbell and shoot them. However, I seriously doubt that you can legally shoot someone for ringing your doorbell if that person is not presenting some type of threat. 
#21

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 11:37:46
However, I seriously doubt that you can legally shoot someone for ringing your doorbell if that person is not presenting some type of threat. 

Depends on your definition of "threat". If you can make a convincing case that the harassment in question was taxing on some physical, mental, or social condition, for example, yeah, I'm pretty sure you could totally shoot them if you've asked them to stop, and it can technically be trespassing. Either way, harmlessly shooting at the ground off to the side to give them a good scare is totally legal.
#22

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 11:39:33
I am sure it is a form of trespassing.


Simply trespassing is not enough. 
#23

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 11:41:04
Simply trespassing is not enough. 

Again, depending on where exactly you are, yes, it is.
#24

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 11:44:34
Depends on your definition of "threat".

It depends on the legal definition of threat. Different states may have different qualifiers, but you don't get to make up your own definition of threat.

If you can make a convincing case that the harassment in question was taxing on some physical, mental, or social condition, for example, yeah, I'm pretty sure you could totally shoot them if you've asked them to stop, and it can technically be trespassing.

No. harassment being taxing is not the same as a threat.
Either way, harmlessly shooting at the ground off to the side to give them a good scare is totally legal.

Depends. There are places where it is illegal to fire a weapon within a certain distance of a public street. It's also a good sign of irresponsible gun ownership.

#25

homicidal_squirrel

Jun 15, 2011 11:45:40
Simply trespassing is not enough. 

Again, depending on where exactly you are, yes, it is.


No. Castle Doctrine has various requirements that must be met. Even Georgia recognizes that simply trespassing is not enough of a reason to get shot.
#26

shiningwolf88

Jun 15, 2011 12:10:02
Simply trespassing is not enough. 

Again, depending on where exactly you are, yes, it is.


No. Castle Doctrine has various requirements that must be met. Even Georgia recognizes that simply trespassing is not enough of a reason to get shot.


I'm no lawyer, but it does appear that in Georgia, one has to be committing a felony before deadly force can be applied, or be making actions that appear as if a felony is about to occur.
And simple trespass is considered a misdemeanor so, deadly force is not quite needed at that point.

However in Louisiana you are allowed to use lethal force against someone who is trespassing...

Again not a lawyer, just reading the relevant bills and such and interpreting them...tho thankfully Louisiana's laws are pretty easy to read.
#27

EscherEnigma

Jun 15, 2011 12:19:02
It's legal to shoot people who ring your doorbell? You must not get a lot of door to door salesmen. 


Sounds like a good outcome for all.
#28

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 12:24:34
There are places where it is illegal to fire a weapon within a certain distance of a public street.

This is Georgia. =P
Though actually, I may be mistaken, but I think that law may vary by county even...

Castle Doctrine has various requirements that must be met. Even Georgia recognizes that simply trespassing is not enough of a reason to get shot.

Nobody in Georgia's ever heard of no "Castle Doctrine". All I know is you're on my porch, I don't know who you are, and I don't like you. =D
#29

zombie_babies

Jun 15, 2011 12:31:54
This is the kind of idiot that makes responsible gun owners look bad.  I mean, if you're gonna shoot a kid that rang your doorbell and bailed, use dragon's breath.  Geez.
#30

LFK

Jun 15, 2011 12:53:00
This is the kind of idiot that makes responsible gun owners look bad.  I mean, if you're gonna shoot a kid that rang your doorbell and bailed, use dragon's breath.  Geez.

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The hay bale, what, 15 feet off to the side, lit on fire too.
#31

zombie_babies

Jun 15, 2011 12:59:06
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The hay bale, what, 15 feet off to the side, lit on fire too.



Yeah, I always wondered what he did about that little ... issue.  :-p

Tat hay was asking for it.



Damn skippy.  Turnin' all dry an' stuff.  What a punk.
#32

boraxe

Jun 15, 2011 13:48:57
Sure. If somebody's harassing you on your property after you've asked them to stop and leave or asked them not to be there to begin with, then you can legally shoot them, again depending on where you live. Also depending on where you live, there may be other stipulations. For example, you may or may not be able to shoot them in the back or as they are in the process of leaving your property.


Screenshot or it didn't happen.

I have never heard of any jurisdiction that allows the use of deadly force for something like this. Self defense only applies to a response to a direct threat and even then only proportion to the threat itself.

If Georgia seriously allows it's citizens to murder anyone who rings their doorbell I see little recourse but to nuke the entire state from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
#33

zombie_babies

Jun 15, 2011 14:00:47
Maybe he shot it.



After seeing several of his videos, I have to say that this really - honestly - is the likely course of action he took.
#34

Crimson_Concerto

Jun 15, 2011 14:00:50
If Georgia seriously allows it's citizens to murder anyone who rings their doorbell I see little recourse but to nuke the entire state from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

That's not entirely fair. I mean, Atlanta is pretty okay.

But seriously, that's an exaggeration, and you know it. It's not about being allowed to murder anyone who rings your doorbell. That would be absurd. It's about being allowed to murder anyone that you don't like who rings your doorbell. ^___^