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#1
kreg_the_destroyer
Apr 21, 2010 12:16:36 I have to do a case study project for my writing class. I have decided to do the topic of which is better 4th edition D&D or 3.5. I stand on both sides of the fence when it comes to which is better. I like 4E because of its simplicity, but I also like 3.5 for its content and the fact that I grew up on it. 4E seems to be a better edition for those who are interested in starting to play D&D for the first time because it is a bit easier to understand than 3.5, and after awhile those people can try 3.5 when they have the grasp of the central concept. I was wondering what everyone's opinion is based upon this question. Which is better 4 or 3.5? Thanks for your help and no you won't get paid or get experience for helping.
#2
op1983
Apr 21, 2010 12:30:24 My opinion on the question is this: Trying to compare 3.5 and 4th ed is like trying to compare boots and sandals. 3.5 is similar to 4th ed in that they are both role playing games built in the same basic universe, but that's pretty much as far as it goes. They have different functions and purposes. There is no need to compare the two. Perhaps you could make your paper a bit cleaner rather than try to prove one better than the other just compare the two systems. There are huge differences between the two but because it is a roleplaying game and they are both based in the same universe they will naturally have some similarities.
#3
dragom
Apr 21, 2010 12:39:01
um... Can someone find... Nah wait, let me try it myself.

Troll
#4
zombie_babies
Apr 21, 2010 12:39:40 Wait. No, I don't see it.
#5
The-Mage-King
Apr 21, 2010 12:42:03 3.5 FTW!!11!!!

Seriously, though, 3.x is much better. I like the complicated rules and millions of sourcebooks to wade through (as a matter of fact, I'm making one character that needs ~10 books for feats and other stuff.
#6
zombie_babies
Apr 21, 2010 12:44:49 My current 4e character uses stuff from 9 sources. So thar.
#7
EscherEnigma
Apr 21, 2010 13:05:55
I have to do a case study project for my writing class. I have decided to do the topic of which is better 4th edition D&D or 3.5. I stand on both sides of the fence when it comes to which is better. I like 4E because of its simplicity, but I also like 3.5 for its content and the fact that I grew up on it. 4E seems to be a better edition for those who are interested in starting to play D&D for the first time because it is a bit easier to understand than 3.5, and after awhile those people can try 3.5 when they have the grasp of the central concept. I was wondering what everyone's opinion is based upon this question. Which is better 4 or 3.5? Thanks for your help and no you won't get paid or get experience for helping.

The answer is yes. All of the above. All those things you just said.

Which is really to say "no, are you on crack? It's like choosing between apples and oranges, blue and red, or hairy chest and shaved chest, smooth supple back rippling with musclecs and sweat or a burly hairy bicep bursting with energy1. It's a matter of preference. Some people may choose one over the other, but that doens't really make one better2, just different."

-------
1What? My boyfriend left early today. I'm a bit... pent up.
2Oh, I lie. A nice hairy chest is so much better then a shaved or hairless one3.
3... I'm gonna miss my chest hair when I shave it off.
#8
zombie_babies
Apr 21, 2010 13:12:29 EE, you're in rare form today. I likes it.
#9
kreg_the_destroyer
Apr 21, 2010 14:48:42 now I agree with y'all that comparing the two is like apples and oranges and the like, but I needed a topic and this was the best one i got. Thanks for the help.
#10
zombie_babies
Apr 21, 2010 14:53:17 Well, you could, you know, actually compare apples and oranges. People talk about it all the time but it's rarely done. 3.5 and 4e, though, has been done to death.
#11
pluisjen
Apr 22, 2010 3:53:13 Put on your fire-retardant undies and do a search on the forums for "3.5 vs 4".

You can probably grab a complete essay on the subject from any of 25 different posters, it'll save you a lot of work.
#12
dragom
Apr 22, 2010 12:09:23
Is true, I think Concerns and Criticisms still stands in silent memorial to the latest edition war.
#13
CCS
Apr 22, 2010 14:54:03
now I agree with y'all that comparing the two is like apples and oranges and the like, but I needed a topic and this was the best one i got. Thanks for the help.

Well then, you're going to fail.

For the record though I think AD&D 1e is still the best edition of this game.

#14
oxybe
Apr 22, 2010 17:08:28

Is true, I think Concerns and Criticisms still stands in silent memorial to the latest edition war.

*slaps Dragom* Ve do nots spek of ze Concernz und Criticismz!

silly walks away.

...

personal preference? 4th ed. i want to play Dungeons & Dragons, not Scribes and Spreadsheets ;)
#15
The-Mage-King
Apr 22, 2010 17:47:10

Is true, I think Concerns and Criticisms still stands in silent memorial to the latest edition war.

*slaps Dragom* Ve do nots spek of ze Concernz und Criticismz!

silly walks away.

...

personal preference? 4th ed. i want to play Dungeons & Dragons, not Scribes and Spreadsheets ;)

So you hate paper, eh?

You know exactly what my response is, and what me actually saying it means to my side. So I won't.

Ha!
#16
oxybe
Apr 22, 2010 19:31:55 i don't know if you've seen my sig TMK, but i've got darn near most anything you need in there to run the game free using thing electronically (i'm still looking for a virtual TT that's user friendly and i like)... i'm very much a minimalist when it comes to gaming, the most i have out is my mat and each player's fig. i hate immensely dislike unnecessary clutter, mostly because i'm a walking disaster and i try to keep damage to a bare minimum.

so yes, i do dislike paper to an extent. if i could find a free note-taking app for my new DSi XL (the flipnote app that it comes with is NOT a proper note app) i would probably do away with notebooks altogether and store my campaign notes on a SDcard.

...

you know, this could explain my irrational fear of treants. stupid creepy tree-people.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 kreg_the_destroyer Apr 21, 2010 12:16:36	I have to do a case study project for my writing class. I have decided to do the topic of which is better 4th edition D&D or 3.5. I stand on both sides of the fence when it comes to which is better. I like 4E because of its simplicity, but I also like 3.5 for its content and the fact that I grew up on it. 4E seems to be a better edition for those who are interested in starting to play D&D for the first time because it is a bit easier to understand than 3.5, and after awhile those people can try 3.5 when they have the grasp of the central concept. I was wondering what everyone's opinion is based upon this question. Which is better 4 or 3.5? Thanks for your help and no you won't get paid or get experience for helping.
#2 op1983 Apr 21, 2010 12:30:24	My opinion on the question is this: Trying to compare 3.5 and 4th ed is like trying to compare boots and sandals. 3.5 is similar to 4th ed in that they are both role playing games built in the same basic universe, but that's pretty much as far as it goes. They have different functions and purposes. There is no need to compare the two. Perhaps you could make your paper a bit cleaner rather than try to prove one better than the other just compare the two systems. There are huge differences between the two but because it is a roleplaying game and they are both based in the same universe they will naturally have some similarities.
#3 dragom Apr 21, 2010 12:39:01	um... Can someone find... Nah wait, let me try it myself.
#4 zombie_babies Apr 21, 2010 12:39:40	Wait. No, I don't see it.
#5 The-Mage-King Apr 21, 2010 12:42:03	3.5 FTW!!11!!! Seriously, though, 3.x is much better. I like the complicated rules and millions of sourcebooks to wade through (as a matter of fact, I'm making one character that needs ~10 books for feats and other stuff.
#6 zombie_babies Apr 21, 2010 12:44:49	My current 4e character uses stuff from 9 sources. So thar.
#7 EscherEnigma Apr 21, 2010 13:05:55	I have to do a case study project for my writing class. I have decided to do the topic of which is better 4th edition D&D or 3.5. I stand on both sides of the fence when it comes to which is better. I like 4E because of its simplicity, but I also like 3.5 for its content and the fact that I grew up on it. 4E seems to be a better edition for those who are interested in starting to play D&D for the first time because it is a bit easier to understand than 3.5, and after awhile those people can try 3.5 when they have the grasp of the central concept. I was wondering what everyone's opinion is based upon this question. Which is better 4 or 3.5? Thanks for your help and no you won't get paid or get experience for helping. The answer is yes. All of the above. All those things you just said. Which is really to say "no, are you on crack? It's like choosing between apples and oranges, blue and red, or hairy chest and shaved chest, smooth supple back rippling with musclecs and sweat or a burly hairy bicep bursting with energy1. It's a matter of preference. Some people may choose one over the other, but that doens't really make one better2, just different." ------- 1What? My boyfriend left early today. I'm a bit... pent up. 2Oh, I lie. A nice hairy chest is so much better then a shaved or hairless one3. 3... I'm gonna miss my chest hair when I shave it off.
#8 zombie_babies Apr 21, 2010 13:12:29	EE, you're in rare form today. I likes it.
#9 kreg_the_destroyer Apr 21, 2010 14:48:42	now I agree with y'all that comparing the two is like apples and oranges and the like, but I needed a topic and this was the best one i got. Thanks for the help.
#10 zombie_babies Apr 21, 2010 14:53:17	Well, you could, you know, actually compare apples and oranges. People talk about it all the time but it's rarely done. 3.5 and 4e, though, has been done to death.
#11 pluisjen Apr 22, 2010 3:53:13	Put on your fire-retardant undies and do a search on the forums for "3.5 vs 4". You can probably grab a complete essay on the subject from any of 25 different posters, it'll save you a lot of work.
#12 dragom Apr 22, 2010 12:09:23	Is true, I think Concerns and Criticisms still stands in silent memorial to the latest edition war.
#13 CCS Apr 22, 2010 14:54:03	now I agree with y'all that comparing the two is like apples and oranges and the like, but I needed a topic and this was the best one i got. Thanks for the help. Well then, you're going to fail. For the record though I think AD&D 1e is still the best edition of this game.
#14 oxybe Apr 22, 2010 17:08:28	Is true, I think Concerns and Criticisms still stands in silent memorial to the latest edition war. slaps Dragom Ve do nots spek of ze Concernz und Criticismz! silly walks away. ... personal preference? 4th ed. i want to play Dungeons & Dragons, not Scribes and Spreadsheets ;)
#15 The-Mage-King Apr 22, 2010 17:47:10	Is true, I think Concerns and Criticisms still stands in silent memorial to the latest edition war. slaps Dragom Ve do nots spek of ze Concernz und Criticismz! silly walks away. ... personal preference? 4th ed. i want to play Dungeons & Dragons, not Scribes and Spreadsheets ;) So you hate paper, eh? You know exactly what my response is, and what me actually saying it means to my side. So I won't. Ha!
#16 oxybe Apr 22, 2010 19:31:55	i don't know if you've seen my sig TMK, but i've got darn near most anything you need in there to run the game free using thing electronically (i'm still looking for a virtual TT that's user friendly and i like)... i'm very much a minimalist when it comes to gaming, the most i have out is my mat and each player's fig. i hate immensely dislike unnecessary clutter, mostly because i'm a walking disaster and i try to keep damage to a bare minimum. so yes, i do dislike paper to an extent. if i could find a free note-taking app for my new DSi XL (the flipnote app that it comes with is NOT a proper note app) i would probably do away with notebooks altogether and store my campaign notes on a SDcard. ... you know, this could explain my irrational fear of treants. stupid creepy tree-people.