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#1
zombie_babies
Feb 11, 2011 14:17:17 The thread about Egypt got poofed even though there was no fighting in it whatsoever. Whoever is doing this, I sure hope you're havin' fun.

Don't fret too much, OTTers. We have a group.
#2
homicidal_squirrel
Feb 11, 2011 14:20:12 Yup... just got the email... Sigh...
At least we know it isn'tonly Goldy and RH who are being targeted.
#3
zombie_babies
Feb 11, 2011 14:42:28 I dunno, they were both one of them was participating.
#4
homicidal_squirrel
Feb 11, 2011 14:43:06 apperantly it was a violation of section 6 of the CoC. Funny, section 6 of the CoC says:

6. Do not disrupt chat, forums, blog comments or other communication channels. For example:

• Spam through repeated posts, or off-topic content by word or intent to forums or comments (scrolling, flooding, polling, or by "bumping" a post more than once in 48 hours)
• Make off-topic posts or chat or trades in the wrong forums or chat rooms (casual chat or roleplay in rooms or forums not designated for these types of activities)
• Advertise trades or sales outside of the designated areas

Is it just me? I'm not seeing where anyone did or said anything to disrupt the forums. This section doesn't even deal with political discussions.
#5
zombie_babies
Feb 11, 2011 14:45:16 Yeah, that doesn't remotely add up. There was nothing disruptive about any post in that thread. It was pretty much everyone agreeing about everything that was being discussed. Wikileaks Task Force. This, though, is exactly what happens when people report a lot of stuff here. The Zero Tolerance Hammer comes crashing down and the place dies off for a while. Trust me, I've seen it happen more than once.
#6
homicidal_squirrel
Feb 11, 2011 15:09:27 Just curious, but does anyone know what part of the CoC actually says that political dicussions are banned?
#7
zombie_babies
Feb 11, 2011 15:12:55 I don't know if it's explicitly in the CoC, but disruption is and they can call whatever they want disruptive. At one point it was a violation to post a thread about katanas - swear to god. Edition war stuff is also labeled defacto disruptive from time to time. The only place I'm positive political stuff is mentioned explicitly is in the two stickied threads at the top of the forum (well, I know Webster mentioned it and I at least directed people to that thread. can't recall whether or not I specifically made mention of it, though).
#8
Robin_Hoodlum
Feb 11, 2011 15:17:14 Wikileaks Task Force, man...
Wikileaks Task Force...

#9
homicidal_squirrel
Feb 11, 2011 15:22:08 I remember the ban on Katana talk. Wasn't there also a ban on book reviews as well? It seems a bit of a cop-out to label a topic as a disruption when it isn't disrupting anything. If you start a thread about a book that deals with katanas, the discussion generally stays wwithin the thread. Some people may start other threads about it, but I fail to see how it disrupts the forums as a whole.
#10
zombie_babies
Feb 11, 2011 15:25:35 I don't make the rules, man. I just happen to know a piddling few of 'em. It's the price we pay for free access to privately run boards.
#11
ADHadh
Feb 11, 2011 15:27:25 Katanas are for sissies.
Real men use talwars.
#12
homicidal_squirrel
Feb 11, 2011 15:28:45 If that's the case then I think we need to start a petition to have WoTC hire you as the new rules maker.
#13
zombie_babies
Feb 11, 2011 15:33:39 Good. For my first act, I decree that anyone with any magenta in their avatar shall receive a 24 hour ban!
#14
homicidal_squirrel
Feb 11, 2011 15:41:46 I like the way this is looking already.
#15
zombie_babies
Feb 11, 2011 15:46:15 Improper use of an underscore shall constitute a permanent, IP ban of the offending persona!
#16
Idolis
Feb 11, 2011 15:48:17 Should we bring back the "Ban the Person Above You" game?
#17
ADHadh
Feb 11, 2011 15:52:06 Idolis, you are banned for threatening other people with ban games even though you do not have the authority to actually ban people.
And because I don't like baseball.
#18
Idolis
Feb 11, 2011 15:56:09 Adh you have been banned for forgetting to put in the "Ban to be lifted:" line.

Ban to be lifted: When you learn to admire men swinging clubs at white rats.
#19
baneofelves
Feb 11, 2011 15:58:25 Idolis, you have been baned.

And banned.

WITH NO HOPE OF RETURN.

Unless you bring me a salami sammich.
#20
homicidal_squirrel
Feb 11, 2011 21:30:03 So earlier today I wrote an email to customer service about the Egypt thread being closed. This is their response:

________________________
Thanks for writing in. I understand you may not agree with this action, but Wizards of the Coast staff are the final judges of whether a post qualifies as a disruption. We will take your feedback into account, but cannot reverse this action. I apologize for the frustration this has caused
____________________________

#21
Robin_Hoodlum
Feb 11, 2011 22:15:26
This is their response:

________________________
Thanks for writing in. I understand you may not agree with this action, but Wizards of the Coast staff are the final judges of whether a post qualifies as a disruption. We will take your feedback into account, but cannot reverse this action. I apologize for the frustration this has caused
____________________________

Of course it is.

#22
mock26
Feb 12, 2011 1:17:31
I don't know if it's explicitly in the CoC, but disruption is and they can call whatever they want disruptive. At one point it was a violation to post a thread about katanas - swear to god. Edition war stuff is also labeled defacto disruptive from time to time. The only place I'm positive political stuff is mentioned explicitly is in the two stickied threads at the top of the forum (well, I know Webster mentioned it and I at least directed people to that thread. can't recall whether or not I specifically made mention of it, though).

I remember that. There was even a sticked thread about that particular topic being banned, if I remember correctly.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombie_babies Feb 11, 2011 14:17:17	The thread about Egypt got poofed even though there was no fighting in it whatsoever. Whoever is doing this, I sure hope you're havin' fun. Don't fret too much, OTTers. We have a group.
#2 homicidal_squirrel Feb 11, 2011 14:20:12	Yup... just got the email... Sigh... At least we know it isn'tonly Goldy and RH who are being targeted.
#3 zombie_babies Feb 11, 2011 14:42:28	I dunno, they were both one of them was participating.
#4 homicidal_squirrel Feb 11, 2011 14:43:06	apperantly it was a violation of section 6 of the CoC. Funny, section 6 of the CoC says: 6. Do not disrupt chat, forums, blog comments or other communication channels. For example: • Spam through repeated posts, or off-topic content by word or intent to forums or comments (scrolling, flooding, polling, or by "bumping" a post more than once in 48 hours) • Make off-topic posts or chat or trades in the wrong forums or chat rooms (casual chat or roleplay in rooms or forums not designated for these types of activities) • Advertise trades or sales outside of the designated areas Is it just me? I'm not seeing where anyone did or said anything to disrupt the forums. This section doesn't even deal with political discussions.
#5 zombie_babies Feb 11, 2011 14:45:16	Yeah, that doesn't remotely add up. There was nothing disruptive about any post in that thread. It was pretty much everyone agreeing about everything that was being discussed. Wikileaks Task Force. This, though, is exactly what happens when people report a lot of stuff here. The Zero Tolerance Hammer comes crashing down and the place dies off for a while. Trust me, I've seen it happen more than once.
#6 homicidal_squirrel Feb 11, 2011 15:09:27	Just curious, but does anyone know what part of the CoC actually says that political dicussions are banned?
#7 zombie_babies Feb 11, 2011 15:12:55	I don't know if it's explicitly in the CoC, but disruption is and they can call whatever they want disruptive. At one point it was a violation to post a thread about katanas - swear to god. Edition war stuff is also labeled defacto disruptive from time to time. The only place I'm positive political stuff is mentioned explicitly is in the two stickied threads at the top of the forum (well, I know Webster mentioned it and I at least directed people to that thread. can't recall whether or not I specifically made mention of it, though).
#8 Robin_Hoodlum Feb 11, 2011 15:17:14	Wikileaks Task Force, man... Wikileaks Task Force...
#9 homicidal_squirrel Feb 11, 2011 15:22:08	I remember the ban on Katana talk. Wasn't there also a ban on book reviews as well? It seems a bit of a cop-out to label a topic as a disruption when it isn't disrupting anything. If you start a thread about a book that deals with katanas, the discussion generally stays wwithin the thread. Some people may start other threads about it, but I fail to see how it disrupts the forums as a whole.
#10 zombie_babies Feb 11, 2011 15:25:35	I don't make the rules, man. I just happen to know a piddling few of 'em. It's the price we pay for free access to privately run boards.
#11 ADHadh Feb 11, 2011 15:27:25	Katanas are for sissies. Real men use talwars.
#12 homicidal_squirrel Feb 11, 2011 15:28:45	If that's the case then I think we need to start a petition to have WoTC hire you as the new rules maker.
#13 zombie_babies Feb 11, 2011 15:33:39	Good. For my first act, I decree that anyone with any magenta in their avatar shall receive a 24 hour ban!
#14 homicidal_squirrel Feb 11, 2011 15:41:46	I like the way this is looking already.
#15 zombie_babies Feb 11, 2011 15:46:15	Improper use of an underscore shall constitute a permanent, IP ban of the offending persona!
#16 Idolis Feb 11, 2011 15:48:17	Should we bring back the "Ban the Person Above You" game?
#17 ADHadh Feb 11, 2011 15:52:06	Idolis, you are banned for threatening other people with ban games even though you do not have the authority to actually ban people. And because I don't like baseball.
#18 Idolis Feb 11, 2011 15:56:09	Adh you have been banned for forgetting to put in the "Ban to be lifted:" line. Ban to be lifted: When you learn to admire men swinging clubs at white rats.
#19 baneofelves Feb 11, 2011 15:58:25	Idolis, you have been baned. And banned. WITH NO HOPE OF RETURN. Unless you bring me a salami sammich.
#20 homicidal_squirrel Feb 11, 2011 21:30:03	So earlier today I wrote an email to customer service about the Egypt thread being closed. This is their response: ________________________ Thanks for writing in. I understand you may not agree with this action, but Wizards of the Coast staff are the final judges of whether a post qualifies as a disruption. We will take your feedback into account, but cannot reverse this action. I apologize for the frustration this has caused ____________________________
#21 Robin_Hoodlum Feb 11, 2011 22:15:26	This is their response: ________________________ Thanks for writing in. I understand you may not agree with this action, but Wizards of the Coast staff are the final judges of whether a post qualifies as a disruption. We will take your feedback into account, but cannot reverse this action. I apologize for the frustration this has caused ____________________________ Of course it is.
#22 mock26 Feb 12, 2011 1:17:31	I don't know if it's explicitly in the CoC, but disruption is and they can call whatever they want disruptive. At one point it was a violation to post a thread about katanas - swear to god. Edition war stuff is also labeled defacto disruptive from time to time. The only place I'm positive political stuff is mentioned explicitly is in the two stickied threads at the top of the forum (well, I know Webster mentioned it and I at least directed people to that thread. can't recall whether or not I specifically made mention of it, though). I remember that. There was even a sticked thread about that particular topic being banned, if I remember correctly.