Most of the people I have known in my life who took up smoking began so as a social activity. Some of them to deal with stress. Some to resist being hungry. It doesn't matter what your reason is or was. If you lack the true desire to quit then you might as well climb back on that horse until you're ready to get off.
But, as you surely know, there's more to it. Another social activity where people smoke? Drinking! Its temptation. Are you stressed? Well it not the lack of nicotine stressing you out. Deal with that. Are you gaining weight? Go to the gym. Eat better. Bored? Tough. Maybe you're just boring.
But never, never, never give your self a single inch. If you pick up a pack after a year, or choke one down with an old friend, you're not going to stop there. There is no easy way. Maybe a little suffering will do you some good.
Besides my girlfriend's nagging I have seen the consequences of smoking in my mother who is now on oxygen on a good day and a respirator on a bad day to help her breathe. Those consequences seemed really far off when I was younger but now that I am past 30 I see that I don't have time to put it off.
The cravings kill me though for all the reasons you mentioned. Is there an activity you could suggest that I could take up to relieve those cravings?
To relieve the cravings? Aside from crack or unhealthy obsession? :D Anything you enjoy that will cause you to be physically and mentally preoccupied. You know at work when you're in the middle of something real big and you can't justify taking a smoke break everytime you want one? You were busy, right? I could go on but I'd be afraid to fall to too many cliches.
There's the chemical aspect. Just like some chemicals in your brain make you happy or not tired, you have ones that make you want one. So, you can go the counter-chemical route...
Otherwise, you need to buff up your ego to the point that it can shut down or hold back your id when it scream "GIMME GIMME GIMME!" Maybe thats why so many ex-smokers get a holier than thou attitude...
Anyway, I hope someone else has something to say...
The cravings kill me though for all the reasons you mentioned. Is there an activity you could suggest that I could take up to relieve those cravings?
I hear exercising works. Breathing better usually means feeling better and this will give you a positive reason to avoid the temptation.
Avoid the old situations that you used to smoke in, the old hang outs.
I had a friend who actually charted out the cigarettes that he smoked during the day, the whens, the heavy times, the how muchs. He then planned his day accordingly to avoid those things.
Chew gum, drink water, do push ups, surround yourself by friends that support your decision.
I am also told the first 48 hours are the worst, after that it gets easier. Although I wouldn't know first hand.
That is all I have to offer.
Minja's advice is much friendlier than mine, and perhaps the more tangible.
And BTW, I'm sorry to have put you off. You seem pretty cool.
Minja's advice is much friendlier than mine, and perhaps the more tangible.
I wasn't put off much by it, that's why I reread it. I know you were just trying to be helpful and sometimes a swift kick in the ass is what a person needs to get the ball rolling. Thanks again.
Thanks Minja. Getting off my fat ass is probably a good idea even if I wasn't quitting.
What if you change brands right before you quit? My friend was really brand loyal and he hated bumming from other people if they didn't smoke his brand. He said they tasted like
. But if you did that right before you quit smoking may not seem as tasteful. Just a thought.
Breathe well.... :D
What if you change brands right before you quit? My friend was really brand loyal and he hated bumming from other people if they didn't smoke his brand. He said they tasted like
Just a thought.
Breathe well.... :D
That would probably work for some people but when I am desperate and can't get my Kools I smoke whatever's cheapest. It was a good suggestion though.
Go Idolis Go!
Kick that BUTT!
Liberate those LUNGS!
You can do it! You can do it!
Go Idolis Go
You could hire your own cheerleaders to inspire you to victory!!!
Go Idolis Go!
Kick that BUTT!
Liberate those LUNGS!
You can do it! You can do it!
Go Idolis Go
*Picks jaw up off the floor after the mental picture that conjured. Looks over his shoulder hoping his wife didn't see. And laughs uproariously.
The trick is really just not smoking. As unbearable as the craving is, just don't smoke. It sounds stupid, but there it is. I know some people who have had success with the gum, but I know at least two who now chew the gum everyday (which is probably better for you, if that's the way you want to go). For myself, when I would quit in the past I would typically start up again when thrown into a familiar situation I had not been in for a little while, like I would not smoke and then one night get drunk and play poker, and I couldn't drink and sit around a poker table with all my friends smoking and not smoke myself.
Another strategy I have seen work is to not smoke your last pack. Just keep it unopened. If you keep telling yourself you can always smoke those if it gets really, really bad, then you can avoid some of the panic associated with not having cigarettes around when you have a craving.
The strategy that I think sounds the best intellectually but would never work for me was my rommate's. He started taking judo, and if he smoked he would end up getting his butt kicked.
It's either that go Cold Turkey, and live somewhere where there are no cigs for sale.
Start changing your daily routine as you start coming off of them. Alot of addiction is mental association change what you do for lunch, change where you have your lunch and maybe even what you eat for example.
That sort of thing.
Smoking was the absolute hardest thing I quit. During my twenties, I played with some very serious stuff. I quit all that without much trouble. Smoking is on an entirely different level. I once worked with a woman that was a former heroin junky. She lost her kids, had friends die and all that jazz. Eventually, she fixed herself up, got her kids back, bought a house, etc. She slowly got rid of all her vices (and there were quite a few). The second to last thing she quit was smoking. That's after heroin, crack, weed, alcohol and god knows what else. When I left that job, she was still working on her final vice - caffeine. When whoever "they" are tell you that smoking is tough to quit, "they" ain't lying. Expect a struggle and be prepared for it. It's going to be tough. Very. So I wish you the best of luck. Once you're really ready, though, it won't seem nearly as bad as all the times you tried before. ;)
Or just imagine that you'd be kissing Mialee everytime you'd be taking a puff of cigs. That might give you some extra will power.
So, I guess as far as advice goes, I'd suggest really looking inside of yourself and asking the tough questions: do you really and honestly want to quit? If you cannot answer with a definite "yes", there's not much that can help you.
So, so true. You can't half-ass it, which I'm afraid is still what I'm doing. I'm going to keep trying, because trying at least means I smoke less, but there is no second step to quitting.
So, so true. You can't half-ass it, which I'm afraid is still what I'm doing. I'm going to keep trying, because trying at least means I smoke less, but there is no second step to quitting.
Yeah. I'm actually still worried myself even though I've passed all of the tough tests. Bar nights with the boys, the holidays, D&D Sundays, etc. I made it through all of them, but I still get the urge every now and then. I understand that "always an addict" stuff so much better now. I think the worry helps, though. Keeps ya' vigilant. ;)
Okay, that sounded really mushy but I meant every word.
I've been smoking for 8 years and I've tried to quit too many times to count.
My main problem is that most of my friends smoke. Being around people who smoke when you're trying to quit makes it almost impossible.
So, I guess my only advice is to spend as much time as possible with people who don't smoke.
Thank you. Thank you all. I think what is really helping me right now is that there are so many people pulling for me.
....in that case....
.... ;) GO IDOLIS GO!
Can I get an I? I!!!
Can I get an D? D!!!
Can I get an O? O!!!
Can I get an L? L!!!!
Can I get an I? I!!!
Can I get an S? S!!!
What does it spell?
IDOLIS!!!
Say it again!
IDOLIS!!!
One last time?!
IDOLIS!!!
Go IDOLIS!!!!
Crush the Cravings!!
Lick the Nicotine Fits!!!
SQUASH the WHEEZING!!!
Yeah!!!
....maybe nor were they able to hardly move much. On of the soccer players decided to tackled one of the bigger guys that was mouthing off and leveled his ass. It was hilarious to see. Not only did the football players look a bit worried/scared but their coach punished them more, for being dicks, once they got back to their practice field. They had to do other forms of punishment because I don't think the coach wanted to see anymore of his football players get owned because of their stupidity. I don't think they talked smack to us anymore after that.
Also, quit smoking or else you're a pansy. :P
It has been a whole day since the last time I smoked. Going better than I thought but the first three days are the hardest.
were you the squad captain?
.....maybe....
.... why?...Go Idolis Go!
Kick those coffin nails!
.....maybe....
Can a friend not pry? Do you think that having been a cheerleader in the past will destroy your nerd cred?
Can a friend not pry? Do you think that having been a cheerleader in the past will destroy your nerd cred?
There are very few places in the world where the words "nerd cred" can be said with a straight face. This is one of them.
There are very few places in the world where the words "nerd cred" can be said with a straight face. This is one of them.
Don't you mean "typed with a straight face?" ;) Like nerds would actually communicate with our mouths.
Don't you mean "typed with a straight face?" ;) Like nerds would actually communicate with our mouths.
Only a nerd would feel the need to correct me on that one, dirty :P
Only a nerd would feel the need to correct me on that one, dirty :P
Only a nerd would know that there was something to be corrected or would have understood the correction.
Don't you mean "typed with a straight face?" ;) Like nerds would actually communicate with our mouths.
Ummm... some of us communicate with our mouths....
Go Idolis Go!
May day 2 lead to day 3!
Ummm... some of us communicate with our mouths....
Take on Day Three! Idolis! Go FIGHT WIN!!!
Minja you are an inspiration.
I'm into.:angelhide
:angelhide
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:raincloud
Is that a COLD rain shower? :D
Oh yeah, Idolis, another inspiration, instead of smoking a cigarette, take a cold shower.... with....someone... ;)
Is that a COLD rain shower? :D
Oh yeah, Idolis, another inspiration, instead of smoking a cigarette, take a cold shower.... with....someone... ;)
It would be kind of gay if he was to join me in my cold rain shower, and his wife would be....
....unenthusiastic if it was with her. Why would she want him in cold water?
and mom's a ***** but you know that already.Extinguish The Flame!
Torpedo the Tar!
Kick the Cravings!
Do 20 push ups, 40 sit ups, take a drink of water and then walk around the block. Breathe deeply, smile and rejoice in your new found lungs!
Do 20 push ups, 40 sit ups, take a drink of water and then walk around the block. Breathe deeply, smile and rejoice in your new found lungs!
He's not training to be an athlete. He has only started to kick the habit. I think it would be a bad idea for him to off himself via exercise. I think he should focus on smaller exercises such as walking to the fridge and beer curls.
He's not training to be an athlete. He has only started to kick the habit. I think it would be a bad idea for him to off himself via exercise. I think he should focus on smaller exercises such as walking to the fridge and beer curls.
I didn't say do them all at once. ;)
I didn't say do them all at once. ;)
Of course he can't do push ups, sit ups and run at the same time.
What he should do is a marathon. It is a holiday weekend so there should be some marathon special on today. Just sit down and keep those eyes on the screen. Make sure that you have enough snacks and drink to last you all day. Idolis will need a comfortable chair but not one that is too comfortable because we can't having him fall asleep mid marathon.
Cool. Want to roll around on the floor with me and my wife?
I guess I could join in on the fun.
...........rolling around with a bunch of half naked sweaty guys.
What is wrong with that?
...........rolling around with a bunch of half naked sweaty guys.
What is wrong with that?
We learn something new about Minja every day. :D
Minja. you wouldn't be my wife by any chance?
Not if she is married, and not if she is in Superior WI. These are two things I am not.
Not if she is married, and not if she is in Superior WI. These are two things I am not.
They are only engaged. They will however be married soon.
They are only engaged. They will however be married soon.
That would still rule me out of the equation.
Not if she is married, and not if she is in Superior WI. These are two things I am not.
You remind me a lot of her. I think you two would like each other a lot.
Do you like to be out of equations?
Yup. I like to be a free radical.
Yup. I like to be a free radical.
I like to be irrational.
the best impetus was a chest cold. You don't even want one really to begin with; fatigue, congestion, general crappiness w/ each hit forces your hand. It's weird to mentally want one and be aware of it, yet know every hit hurts and worses said cold.Other advice:
-Keep both hands busy. Console video gaming helped, particularly shooters or something that requires frequent action/decision making. Painting minis, writing on the computer, and sculpture being the best one for me (too much effort to clean up and go out for a smoke). Reading helps anything to keep your hands preoccupied as they're used to the smoke being there
-Thinking of having one, distract yourself (mind) for 5 minutes. Anything.
-Sequester yourself from all your smoking friends a while. Just a whiff of it or the association is enough to undo your willpower. 4 days minimum before the nicotine has finally left your system physically. 2 weeks mentally for me.
-Movies, lots of them. Can't smoke in the theatre and the money you save helps pay for them or a like venue where you're engaged enough that you don't think of having them or simply cannot.
-After dinner/sex/whatever, do something immediately different as typically, the smoke is the finisher and gets associated w/ these common rituals.
-Exercise, even a little bit; like a hike, 20 min of sit-ups/push-ups, etc. to facilitate serotonin (ward off depression/angst THAT WILL COME), rid cortisol.
-Remind everyone close to you constantly, "I'm in withdrawl, so remember that I need more slack. Still love/respect you, just be patient." Otherwise, you get, "Oh, he's such a dick." when you may very well not be.
-Chew gum to break ritual or like-minded action.
-Reward system, something to look forward to. Figure the $/month on smokes vs. other expenditures. That's a few movies, gas in the car, night out w/ your girl, whatever. It's all relative in the end.
Messed up last night and bought a pack of cigs. I hate myself for doing it but I vow to try again. Soooooo, Day 1 and all is well.
Did you just buy a pack or did you also start smoking the whole pack?
If you think you may end up buying more in the future then you should try not to go into stores alone. If the other person knows that you are trying to quit and want to help you then they can help keep you from buying more smokes.
The good cursing out and her visible anger (and probably flowing tears) will be all the incentive I need not to do such a stupid thing again.
I feel bad for disappointing you all as well especially Minja after all the work she has done to cheer me on. If anyone doesn't know the story behind my goof up just read my entries in "What do you want to talk about?" thread.
Remember, teamwork.
.You could hire your own cheerleaders to inspire you to victory!!!
Go Idolis Go!
Kick that BUTT!
Liberate those LUNGS!
You can do it! You can do it!
Go Idolis Go
It looks like you need more support so I'll quote another one of Minja's posts. GO IDOLIS GO!
Can I get an I? I!!!
Can I get an D? D!!!
Can I get an O? O!!!
Can I get an L? L!!!!
Can I get an I? I!!!
Can I get an S? S!!!
What does it spell?
IDOLIS!!!
Say it again!
IDOLIS!!!
One last time?!
IDOLIS!!!
Go IDOLIS!!!!
Crush the Cravings!!
Lick the Nicotine Fits!!!
SQUASH the WHEEZING!!!
Yeah!!!
Some of 1tonghost's comments sounds like really good advice, particularly the video game part (instant gratification games have a similar affect on brain chemistry to many chemical addictions, so it should help hide the parts of the cravings)
Good luck mate
Go Idolis Go!
Kick those coffin nails!
So, how are things going?
Don't know if you are talking to me. But if you are, pretty good.
Really though, things are pretty good. Still have the cravings but my wife is being really supportive and I have the lozenges when the going gets really tough.
I don't know, maybe Zombie Babies since his post was before yours.
But I know that he is never on at this hour.
Really though, things are pretty good. Still have the cravings but my wife is being really supportive and I have the lozenges when the going gets really tough.
You should have her give you a kick in the groin when you get a craving. It should help you kick the habit. ;)
Thank god for the little ankle biters.
and never do a thing about it but take it out on someone/something that doesn't deserve it.I am not condoning the use of violence in any situation. It took me going to jail several times before I learned that the way I was living was a bad way to be living. You could say it was a wake up call.
If anyone reading this is in their teens and having problems let me tell you violence is not the way to go. It is a road filled with hurt and pain and guilt for the things you have done.
I am sure if there was an immediate effect I would have learned sooner. Actually, now that I come to think about it, I should have learned after the first time my mom kicked me. I was a really dense kid.
Anything else you wish to talk about?
Edit: Except last night it kinda caught me off guard because I hadn't heard anything in a while.
Try to find a way to make it work.
My wife is an outstanding baker which is why I have gained 30 lbs. since I moved in about 2 and half years ago. The weight is just now starting to come off.
That's why I want one. Now here is why I don't. I just don't want to be chained to a pack of cylindrical filtered tobacco products.
Probably not much comfort, because there are hundreds of people like us all over the world right now, but at least if you last longer than me you can think, "Well, at least I am better than lofgren."
Yeah, I know. They taste nasty and make your breath and clothes stink. But the feeling you get from smoking one. Especially if you haven't smoked one in while. You get all light headed like the feeling you get from having just a couple of beers. Not enough to be drunk but feeling a little buzzed.
So people like to smoke so that they can feel like crap?
So people like to smoke so that they can feel like crap?
The friend who introduced me to smoking explained it best.
When you're a smoker, you can have a cigarette and the feeling can only be described as "Ahhhh." Imagine the sound of all of your worries, all of the tough choices you may ever make, any stress or hardship you might be having, slipping away, and feeling only peace and tranquility for about five minutes.
The trade off is that now you must have a cigarette to feel that way.
And they'll kill you.
It seems like a fair trade when you're eighteen and you have very few means of escape, especially if they're cheap in your area. Less so when you are a little older and you have some more freedom, and you live in NYC where they're $9.50 a pack.
What I can tell you is at least I myself have done something that could be considered similar. I'm trying to lose weight. And I don't mean the occasional skipping of pizza or cake.
I mean the full blown planned meals, no cake, no pizza, no soda, no extra salt, exercise every day for at least 30 minutes holding a shotgun at the scale demanding that needle go down or else I will send it to scale hell to forever be stepped on by giant 800 pound demons for eternity.
Serious business.
For those who care: My Journey
Show
Current Diet: Body for Life (6 meals a day, smaller portions, one daya week I eat what I want)
Current exercise program: Wii Fit. (Got fat like a gamer, get thin like a gamer) 30 minutes a day of mixing strength exercises, Yoga, and Aerobics.
Current Day: 4
I had been doing the diet since mid December and some minor exercising, but now I have decided to go the full deal.
Current weight: Just under 260. Ill get more detailed later.
Current Diet: Body for Life (6 meals a day, smaller portions, one daya week I eat what I want)
Current exercise program: Wii Fit. (Got fat like a gamer, get thin like a gamer) 30 minutes a day of mixing strength exercises, Yoga, and Aerobics.
Current Day: 4
I had been doing the diet since mid December and some minor exercising, but now I have decided to go the full deal.
Current weight: Just under 260. Ill get more detailed later.
Edit:
Thank you Stealth for sharing. Personal battles are always tough. Imagine your favorite game ran by someone who hates you. Challenge after challenge is presented with the sole purpous of taking you down a peg or two. Take pride in your victories. You've met the challenge and succeeded without dieing. Pat yourself on the back and get ready for the next day.
Don't like running. I can do walking, or strolling, or my personal favorite: Strutting. But running sucks.
You are definitely a teenage boy, Bane. When I was your age my mom found one I borrowed from a friend under my bed. It was VHS so she watched it and then made me take the cassette apart and cut it into 1/4 inch pieces.
That really sucked and
my friend off badly.Did your mom let you watch the video with her, or was she hogging it? Apparently my parents are afraid that it will "poison my mind" and make me treat women like objects, even though I don't. Ever.
I didn't watch one again until I left her house. Now I own some on DVD and my wife and I watch them together. How cool is that?
must stop.....laughing....Dude, that is freaking hilarious. Turn you into a woman with a rusty spoon? :D Did you tell her that those women were letting themselves be used, so it's OK since they want it? Yeah...that argument just got me in more trouble. So, what, your wife makes you watch pornos so you can stop sucking in bed and learn tips from the pros? :P
No its more like. She watches to learn more things to do to me. Well actually we both watch for that reason.
I would now like to return to a subject more PG or PG-13 rated before the ORCs close this thread.
I saw in another thread you weren't happy with the new Star Wars movies ie. the prequels. I have been a Star Wars fan since they first came out. My dad took me to see the Empire Strikes Back when I was maybe five.
I thought the newer movies weren't that bad. The little organism being the force behind The Force was the only part that really bothered me. The rest was okay though in my opinion.
EPISODE 1
Midichlorians. WTF?
Gungans. Speech mannerisms, all of it. THEY LIVE UNDERWATER. MOST DROIDS DON'T WORK UNDERWATER. THEY'D BE SAFE IN THEIR CITIES. INSTEAD, THEY GO TO THER "SECRET HIDEY PLACE" ON THE SURFACE. WHERE THEY CAN BE FOUND, AND KILLED. *sigh*
Anakin. That is NOT how a 9 year old acts. Personally I think Anakin should have been roughly Obi's age. It would make more sense, he would be worldly in dealing with the dregs of society, know more than Obi, but still have to be his apprentice. (kinda like learning something from someone dumber than you, it never really works out as well) So there would be a little more conflict between the two, which helps anakin fall. (they'd still be close buds though) ALSO, his romance with Padme would not be as creepy.
Padme. A 14 year old girl, run a PLANET?! And she somehow gained the love of the people? Now, I have no idea what the hell it is that 14 year old girls do, but I'm 100% sure that it's not politics.
Darth Maul. He was the only cool character, and he had no impact on the story, aside from killing Qui-Gon Jinn. He could have been so much more!
EP 2 and 3 - haven't seem them in a while, so no comment. Here is a complaint that is for all episodes (1-3) FLAWED STORYLINE, CORNY DIALOGUE. George Lucas is insane. And what I hated was how Anakin's voice cracked in that part where he screams "I hate you" at Obi for slicing him up. Ugh. And I have issues with 4-6 as well. Not as many. But, I prefer to stick with the KOTOR era stuff, which GL had almost NO impact on. And I hate what he did to Darth Vader with ep 3. Why is he such a whiny *****? Vader is an evil, cruel cyborg that loves to choke people to death! I saw none of that! The only time I watch the new movies is when I'm rolling up a Jedi Knight and am picking a lightsabre form (like Soresu or Juyo) and I watch the appropriate fight scene to see how the style looks. I just watch it for the fights, not the story. Since the story sucks.
Don't like running. I can do walking, or strolling, or my personal favorite: Strutting. But running sucks.
Running is awesome, you never feel so healthy and so alive.
Political Intrigue
One on One duels (one, amybe two if you get through it fast enough)
Hilarious characters (Kyle)
WAR!
The first 10 or so hours have a LOT of talking, but they are showing Falena's political situation, and get you immersed in it.
Also, you do not need to play a previous Suikoden game to understand the story of the current one. they will occasionally make references to the other ones, but that's just like an easter egg for longtime fans (like me!)
Yeah, being undead is cool and all for the first couple of hundred years but after that it would get boring. I mean really really boring.
I wish you great fortitude, because luck has nothing to do with it.
Oh, sorry, thought this was the "word association" thread for a minute there. That was pretty funny Dirtyfrank.
Day 7 since your last smoke and and day 11 since you started this whole thing.
Dirtyfrank, stop horning in on my turf! I'm the annoying ass on these forums, YOU make the dirty (and humorous) commentary! STOP STEALING MY JOB!
Wait, you were getting paid?
Gotta go. Just popped in to see how the threads were going. See you guys and gals in a few days. 'Til then, Peace Out.
See ya.
Wait, you were getting paid?
yah
*Back ORCs back. Back I say. C'mon get back. Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase
Well, hopefully things get all good and stuff. So, how many days are you on now?
Oh my god, it has been two weeks already. Whoo Hoo!!!
It doesn't count as faltering if I have absolutely no recollection of it, does it?
It is getting easier. Going through some emotional stuff right now and want my old crutch back at times. I keep thinking about the day when a cigarette is a distant memory. Something I can look back on and say, "Man, those things were nasty. Whatever made me decide to pick them up in the first place?"
"Man, those things were nasty. Whatever made me decide to pick them up in the first place?"
Cuz they made you look cool. :P
Dammit. That's right, they do look cool.
Well, the craving have gone down. Every once in a while, I still want one though. For those times, I pop another Commit and am good for a while.
1st 4 days were the easiest that I can remember in comparison to the times past. Think it was 3 till you purge the nicotine and your CO levels normalize. Physically speaking, you're normal (on a chemical level), you just gotta' begin breaking down the artificial crap and repairing avioli & bronchial tissue. Think if you quit on or before 25 years of age, you can get back to normal in your normal lifetime assuming you're not, IDK, mauled by a tiger or in a car accident. Body can take up the slack. How old are you btw?
I'm venturing it's something of age and environment; now, in my 30's, more reserves of willpower (reason?) to understand what's at stake or more likely the mindset necessary to ommitt stressor triggers, etc. The envirionment I work/live in and company I keep (now) that does likewise. Don't traffic w/ as many smokers or engage in activity that would entice smoking as often.
Anyway, old habbits die hard, bla bla bla..
Idolis, for you, the hard part is already long gone. Much respect. They say it's harder than quitting many hard drugs, you know? So, maybe you picked up the Iron Will feat during your last real time job/lifetime promotion ;).
Just wait till your body starts rejecting the tar...big fun
. Actually, you should already be in that stage. This is likely when you'll find out how much wifey really loves you. Still, everytime I see, "Day 'x', 'y'...", it makes me think of this real serious journal-esque speech. Oh, I got it; keeps me thinking of Martin Sheen's narrative from "Apocaplypse Now". There's Idolis, prowling through the jungles of urban American addiction, and yeah, Charlie's out there, sitting...waiting...smoking
.Yeah, we were deep in flavor country and the sh-t went down. Lt's head opened up like a pezz dispenser, lost my lighter, ashy butts everywhere, ah, man it was Hell...:D
I think you just made me purge some tar.
I'm 33 by the way. Thanks for the encouragement and posting in this impromptu journal.
Apocalypse Now, too funny.
I don't know if this suggestion has popped up (I didn't read the entire thread), but how about every time you get the urge to buy a pack (or more) to put that money in a jar/can/container, and when it is full, go take your girlfriend on a nice date. It the container is large enough, how about using the money to buy a wedding ring.:D
Oh wait, I'm really afraid of heights. I could send my wife's dog into space though and get the puppy I want.
Nah, that wouldn't work either. How 'bout I just use the money to buy the new puppy and my wife can keep her dog. Shelby is the dog's name and she is either really really stupid or really really smart, can't decide which.
Keep your bombs and Pig Pounding implements to yourself.
I like Pig Pounder better than Pit Master.
Soooooooooooooooo...
The Rabid Instigating Goldfishie ftw. Only I'm calling you Goldfish for short.
Now. say it with me. I'm not misunderstood. I'm evil.
I'd prefer it if you called me a Rabid Goldfishie for short, but Goldfishie is fine. (not goldfish! there has to be an 'ie' at the end!)
Slow enough?
*punches Idolis in the face* I will not repeat myself! Read the previous text! It is still there! Now, while you spend the next hour doing that, I'm gonna go have some fun with your wife...:P
Well, I hope you're proud of yourself Boy. Beating on the elderly is a crime in some states, you know.
You check out the pic I linked?
It was sooo awesome to get in that pic with El Pasty Guero. (and his mom, and another band memeber that I never got the name of. they're all really *bleep*ing cool)
I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Smells like...Victory.
Sorry couldn't help but make the "Apacolypse Now" reference. Another poster put it in my head.
On the no smoking front. Still popping the Commit but I am using less everyday.
I prefer, "Charlie don't surf!"
or, "Don't get out of the boat!"
I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Smells like...Victory.
Kilgore was great but you left out half of the quote including the end....
"Someday this war is going to end...."
But Kurtz had the best line of the movie....
"We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write
on their airplanes because it's obscene!"simply... one.... of.... the.... greatest... movies.... ever....
Oh, it's a beautiful morning. The sun is shining. The snow is melting. The Commit is dissolving. My wife is happy. I'm happy. Yes, y'all. It is a beautiful day.
Morale is up, life support is picking up steam again. Air quality has improved since our last forray w/ the enemy though the damage is significant. Damned aliens. They're insatiable. Won't quit till we're all dead I fear.
Though the captain keeps talking about "it". Somewhere, out there, I know it's just itching that irrational spot in the back of his mind. I think he's getting...the space madness.
He wants my covented ice cream bar...
"Oh, dirtyfrank is pulling something out of his shorts." commentator.
"Someone should tell him to put that away." ring announcer.
"Not that you moron, the other thing," commentator.
"Oh, okay, see it now, the other thing was in the way." ring announcer.
"He's handing it Idolis." commentator.
"What the hell is it?" ring announcer.
"It looks like a bacon powered assault rifle," commentor.
"Oh the humanity." ring announcer. "I can't watch this."
"Oh my God!!! Idolis just peppered The Habit with pepper bacon." commentator.
What else does dirtyfrank have in his shorts? ;)Nevermind, don't answer that. I don't want to know.
Please pay attention to the "No Smoking Sign" in the front of the cabin. Turn off your cellphones and place your traytables in their proper and upright position. Thank you for flying "Clean Lung Airlines".
The wife is going wedding shopping and I gots the whole house to myself. Yeeeee Haaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwww!!!
The wife is going wedding shopping and I gots the whole house to myself. Yeeeee Haaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwww!!!
Good luck. Make sure you don't accidentally mess anything up.
Day 19...
You're doing really good! Keep it up, dude!You know, I've been thinking, I, uh, I don't really need to go out this weekend kiddo. Why don't you take the car, have yourself a time...
Oh, if you could just put some gas in the tank and pick me up some Killians and a pack of Camels, that'd be great ;). Have a nice time, but not too nice; I see the way you look at that girl.
@Bane: I would love to kick the Habit in the balls but I can't find them.
Then you PIMP SLAP IT!
Which means his wife needs to powder up his slapping hand first.
Day 20
The War is coming. The War is coming. Calling all able bodied adventurers, the sick, the injured, the ill-tempered, and the happy-go-lucky. Come one come all. The War is coming and Uncle Idolis wants YOU!!!
Which means his wife needs to powder up his slapping hand first.
Correct. Idolis: this is important. Make sure that your wife does this. It's a vital step in Pimp Slapping the Habit.
My wife lubes my hand not powders it.
So she makes you pleasure the habit rather than punish it. What a strange woman. DUDE, DO YOU DO TO HER WHAT I THINK YOU DO?! EEEEEWWWW!!!
Make her happy? I think he does that.
Then punch it in the throat!
Are you a Scott Pilgrim fan, or are you pursuing this line of offense by pure coincidence?
(Or perhaps both you and Scott Pilgrim refer to something else with which I am unfamiliar.)
If you're not a Scott Pilgrim fan, the line in the comic is, "If your life had a face, I would punch it in the nose." (And later, same character) "If your life had a face, I would kick it in the balls."
Three weeks without a smoke. Wow!
It is a beautiful morning here in sunny Superior, WI. Lake Superior is defrosting as I post. Won't be long until the harbor is open. The ice fishermen have moved their shacks of the lake. There were only two casualties this year. A man in his 30's and his golden retriever (What an ass).
Anyway, thanks to everyone for their support. Ocasionally, I still want a cig. I want to quit and intend to keep my promise to my wife and the craving is slowly but surely disapating. Thanks again and may you all have a good day.
Thanks again and may you all have a good day.
May you have a good day too.
Are you a Scott Pilgrim fan, or are you pursuing this line of offense by pure coincidence?
(Or perhaps both you and Scott Pilgrim refer to something else with which I am unfamiliar.)
If you're not a Scott Pilgrim fan, the line in the comic is, "If your life had a face, I would punch it in the nose." (And later, same character) "If your life had a face, I would kick it in the balls."
Pure coincidence. NO idea who Scott Pilgrim is.
@ Idolis: Good work!
@ bane, here, have a nice big dose of .
:D And a cookie.
Really?
Here is a double dosage of that ....
;)
(hey, go take the quiz on my new thread I started)
I spoke too soon. A snow storm hit today that is supposed to drop more than a foot of snow. People shouldn't live this far north.
On the smoking front, alls well.
(HEY! TAKE MY TRUE RUNE QUIZ THAT I FOUND, FARTKNOCKER!)
I spoke too soon. A snow storm hit today that is supposed to drop more than a foot of snow. People shouldn't live this far north.
The isn't the worst of it. I hear that white dragons like to live in snowy areas. You should keep an eye open for them.
The storm has passed. I'm all dugout. Going to see the minister today about my wedding. And still not smoking, wonder of all wonders.
Day 24.
No cigs today...at least I'm trying not to smoke. Today is not a good day. No smoking! No Smoking! No smoking! I will not buy a pack of cigs today! I will not buy a pack of cigs today!
My montra for the day.
Seeing as how Minja (Mindy-Jasmine) in not around at the moment I'll have to sub in for her and cheer.
That was an UBER cheer! You ROCK dirtyfrank.
(Just Jasmine)
Day 1.
Screwed up yesterday. Was standing out side a crafts store that my wife had gone into and another guy that standing there offered me a smoke. I tried to say "No thank you" but what came out was, "Sure, thanks."
I only had the one cig so I am not sure if I should start the day count over again. The cig did taste nasty and I don't think I will be having another. It was awful. In fact, I couldn't finish it for the taste and the guilty feelings I was having.
My wife slapping me in the back of the head like Gibbs does Dinozo on NCIS and saying, "Di Nozo" made me laugh but the feeling behind it made me feel all the guiltier. She was angry but not enough to make a big deal out of it.
This is a honest account of what happened yesterday.
The next time my wife goes into the craft store I think I'll be going in with her. Even if it is does mean my "Man" Card is revoked.
Bane you could have clued me into the joke you and midnitepoison was playing. Bros before Hos, Man! Bros before Hos!
What the hell areyou talking about? Anyways, I need to beat you over the head with my baseball bat! PAIN will make you remember that smoking's bad, mmkay?
You know, the whole fake pic thing? The one where she posted a pic of her in a costume that was actually a pic taken from a cosplay site that df discovered was taken waaaay before she said it was? You know, where he basically figured out that she was full of **** and told everybody? That whole joke? ;)
:PAhem...I agree with Minja.
Of course you do.... :D
I only had the one cig so I am not sure if I should start the day count over again.
In my opinion, day count starts over again.
Sorry. But falling off the wagon here was a good experience for you, showing you how bad it really is... so this temporary hiccup is a step forward as long as it is a learning experience and motivates you to keep away from those things.
The good news is that your one cigarette mistake didn't reverse the progress your lungs have made in repairing themselves.
Now, time to cheer you up!!!
GO IDOLIS GO!!!
You can do it!!!! Kick those coffin Nails!!!!
LIVEN UP THOSE LUNGS!!!! :D :D :D
(did you know that smoking has been linked to impotence later in life?)
KEEP THE PLUMBING PURE!!!!
But why would she go to all the trouble of this facade? It's not just on this site. Why go to all that trouble? That doesn't make any sense to me. Someone needs to provide an explanation before I go making up my mind or any stuff like that. Just gonna be neutral on the subject for now.
I WAS GONE YESTERDAY. That is why I missed dirty's discovery. Alright?
But why would she go to all the trouble of this facade? It's not just on this site. Why go to all that trouble? That doesn't make any sense to me. Someone needs to provide an explanation before I go making up my mind or any stuff like that. Just gonna be neutral on the subject for now.
People fake crap all the time, man. It's a friggin' hobby to mess with heads. df's evidence was pretty damning. He linked the site where she took that pic from. It had the dates to back up his claim that she's making that stuff up, at least. To me, it's damned sad. And pathetic. But who am I to judge? Right now, I'm enjoying using it as a running gag of my own. ;)
Idolis, you suck. I'm sorry, but all this peaches an' cream happy cheerleader bullplop just isn't working, is it? So here's some tough love. You are a failure. Your collapse is just another indication that you simply don't want to actually quit. So make up your damned mind and either quit - you know, actually stop smoking - or buy a carton and kill yourself slowly. You don't seem like the kind, to me, that would like to end it all in a blaze of pathetic gasping, so let's get with it, man. Like it or not, your starting this thread has some people actually interested in your welfare. Quit failing them - and, more importantly, yourself - and man up. You have the intelligence, willpower and every reason in the world (a woman that loves you is reason enough, IMO) to do it, so quit ****ing up and be done with it.
Now, that hurt me more than it hurt you. So let's not go there again, ok? ;)
Unless this is an attention grab thread like those that some certain other people like to create. I don't think it is, but so help me, if you're playin' the people here I'll place a filter on your skull, set your feet on fire and smoke you 'till you're ash. Ahem. I think that's it. Have a pleasant day and a wonderful, smoke-free weekend. :D
People fake crap all the time, man. It's a friggin' hobby to mess with heads. df's evidence was pretty damning. He linked the site where she took that pic from. It had the dates to back up his claim that she's making that stuff up, at least. To me, it's damned sad. And pathetic. But who am I to judge? Right now, I'm enjoying using it as a running gag of my own. ;)
Idolis, you suck. I'm sorry, but all this peaches an' cream happy cheerleader bullplop just isn't working, is it? So here's some tough love. You are a failure. Your collapse is just another indication that you simply don't want to actually quit. So make up your damned mind and either quit - you know, actually stop smoking - or buy a carton and kill yourself slowly. You don't seem like the kind, to me, that would like to end it all in a blaze of pathetic gasping, so let's get with it, man. Like it or not, your starting this thread has some people actually interested in your welfare. Quit failing them - and, more importantly, yourself - and man up. You have the intelligence, willpower and every reason in the world (a woman that loves you is reason enough, IMO) to do it, so quit ****ing up and be done with it.
Now, that hurt me more than it hurt you. So let's not go there again, ok? ;)
Unless this is an attention grab thread like those that some certain other people like to create. I don't think it is, but so help me, if you're playin' the people here I'll place a filter on your skull, set your feet on fire and smoke you 'till you're ash. Ahem. I think that's it. Have a pleasant day and a wonderful, smoke-free weekend. :D
Thank you very much, Zombie. I needed that. I offer my sincerest apologies to anyone that I have offended. It is very true that I royally
up. It will not happen again.You are an awesome guy, Zombie. Even if you are joking. (Sometimes it is hard to tell.) Thanks and I will take your advice and stick to the wall of my computer room so I will see it everyday.
I'm sorry, but all this peaches an' cream happy cheerleader bullplop just isn't working, is it?
Of course it is working, at least to some extent... it got him through three weeks. Almost to four.....
Go Idolis Go!!!:D
can you provide a link?
It's in some thread somewhere. :P Actually, I think it's in the "What Do You Want to Talk About" thread. You could also bring up df's profile and do a post search.
Thank you very much, Zombie. I needed that. I offer my sincerest apologies to anyone that I have offended. It is very true that I royally
You are an awesome guy, Zombie. Even if you are joking. (Sometimes it is hard to tell.) Thanks and I will take your advice and stick to the wall of my computer room so I will see it everyday.
I am a terrible excuse for a human being. Keep that in mind. ;) Still, the tough love approach had to be done at some point, no? The best motivator is pain. Physical, emotional, personal - whatever. Pain is the best reminder of mistakes made and why not to repeat them. The first time you burnt your hand on a stove, did you need your family and friends to cheer you into never doing it again or was the pain good enough by itself? ;) Sometimes, being an incredibly mean, terribly blunt ******* actually pays off.
I WAS GONE YESTERDAY. That is why I missed dirty's discovery. Alright?
I linked to the sites a couple days ago...I believe.
I WAS GONE YESTERDAY. That is why I missed dirty's discovery. Alright?
I'd be surprised to find out that you didn't see another photo she posted in another OTT thread. Maybe you can find it. I didnt see a resemblance.
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Idolis...
Many people spend years breaking the habit. I've had friends who have picked it up again after quitting for over a year. I believe that you are in fact committed to quitting. I hope that you don't beat yourself up too much (thats your wife's job) but rather that you learn something from your slip.
I'd be surprised to find out that you didn't see another photo she posted in another OTT thread. Maybe you can find it. I didnt see a resemblance.
I mayhave seen it, but forgot bout it. I'll take a look around.
No one can kick me in the ass harder than I can.
Your advice is well taken and may save me from a severe pain in the rear end.
Day 4
No smoking is righteous. It is the right of all things. Smoking is the devil's habit and I will no longer dance to his tune. I might dance with his tuna but not to his tune.
Day 5
I have found a group. We are in the process of setting up a meet and greet. I'm actually going to be able to play if everything goes well. I feel great. No smoking will make things go a lot easier.
GO IDOLIS!
BEAT THE SMOKE STICKS!
THOSE CANCER CAUSERS! GREAT THE MEAT!
dirtyfrank....do you HAVE to wear the cheerleading outfit? The sweater and pom poms are one thing.... but the skirt will cause blindness.
Sorry but I have to fill in for Minja when she ain't here.
Still no smoking. Next week is meet week. Awesome. It is a good day. That is all.
This service announcement was sponsored by the Superior Police Department who wants everyone to know that killing people is bad unless those people happen to be uncool people.
What exactly is meet week?
GREAT THE MEAT!
I have to scrub the dirty feeling off now.
Hopefully, I make a good impression. But if I don't at least I'll have a couple of drinks. Works for me.
I'm actually worried a little bit but I'm not the only relatively new guy so I think it will be cool. I think they are willing to let a guy learn.
Meeting new people is hard for me. I know I'm not strange or weird but sometimes I feel like I am. So, it makes it hard to take that leap and meet people.
Actually coming on this site has helped with that. I've made quite a few people laugh so I know my sense of humor is pretty good. This place has been somewhat of a confidence builder. Due in no small part to you.
That conversation we had about your game when you said I should give being a DM a try was really cool. I'm not really ready yet to be a DM but it was cool for someone to say I could be pretty good at it. All I need is a little experience. So I went looking for a group to get that experience.
Oh and grats on your new group.
Aw, such a cute little golden retriever puppy don't you think? *pets puppy*
That's it.
Closer.
Closer.
Closer Dammit.
There, now stand there.
*Rears foot back and delivers a devastating kick to Stealth's balls*
Now don't threaten anymore puppies. I have a collie mix. Retrievers are one step below.
Okay if I kill kittens instead?
Ahhhh... *coughs* Smooth...
No smoking. Hmmm, sounds good to me.
(I know what you are thinking, no they aren't robots. Im talking about them smoking next to their PCs.)
Think about that one for a while and you can see where I'm going with this.
Now if you excuse me I have to go chow down on some nice roast pupp....er.... pork.
*makes sure he's wearing his solid steel cup*
I hope that this is enough encouragement.
Day 8
All is well.
No, I'm not going to cheer like Minja and DIrtyfrank. I am NOT getting in that outfit. NEVAH gonna happen.
Great job. You can do it, as long as you remain stubborn. Keep it up! We're all rooting for you!
No, I'm not going to cheer like Minja and DIrtyfrank. I am NOT getting in that outfit. NEVAH gonna happen.
You don't need the outfit, obviously... ;)
in birthday suitYou don't need the outfit, obviously... ;)
I guess I could cheer him on, Orc style. I'll give him a horn filled with the blood of the innocent every day he resists the temptation.
I guess I could cheer him on, Orc style. I'll give him a horn filled with the blood of the innocent every day he resists the temptation.
Or you could join dirtyfrank and I and....
in your birthday suit! I guess I could cheer him on, Orc style. I'll give him a horn filled with the blood of the innocent every day he resists the temptation.
Good one. Will you extend the same for me in my trial?
I'm on a diet so no dwarf blood. Too fatty. Elf blood works.
Grats on keeping your stride Idolis. Remember, every time you smoke a cigarette, Uwe Bowell gets another video game contract to make into a movie.
THAT should motivate you.
*Has pleasant visions of Minja dancing in her birthday suit and tries to ignore Dirtyfrank but just can't*
Or you could join dirtyfrank and I and....
No......I don't want to go commando, and no one wants to see me like that.
Grats on keeping your stride Idolis. Remember, every time you smoke a cigarette, Uwe Bowell gets another video game contract to make into a movie.
That is simply the most evil thing ever typed....
You are a dirty StealthMarmot you.....
Or you could join dirtyfrank and I and....
Before pigknight asks, are you saying YOU are cheering in your birthday suit as well?
That is simply the most evil thing ever typed....
You are a dirty StealthMarmot you.....
Stopping smoking is serious business.
Before pigknight asks, are you saying YOU are cheering in your birthday suit as well?
ummm, actually I am in a t-shirt and shorts right now, doing yoga and watching Battlestar Galactica.
But if you use your imagination it could look like cheering.... ;)
ummm, actually I am in a t-shirt and shorts right now, doing yoga and watching Battlestar Galactica.
But if you use your imagination it could look like cheering.... ;)
Yoga is like, the opposite of cheering.
Cheering: Jump around a bunch randomly.
Yoga: Stand still in a precise awkward position.
Wii fit has Yoga. Every time I do the Tree or Dance it says "Your balance is a little shaky."
I scream in response "I'm standing on one leg you moron! Be glad I haven't fallen over!"
Final score: 32 out of 100.
"F*** YOU!!"
Now..... I need some driving directions since I seem to be miles off topic...
Yoga is like, the opposite of cheering.
You need to be a bit more.... flexible... ;) /reference
Flexibility is fun, cheering is fun....
By the transitive property of feminine activity, that means yoga is like cheering.
:D Frack you sounds better.
You need to be a bit more.... flexible... ;) /reference
The Incredibles. Awesome movie.
Flexibility is fun, cheering is fun....
By the transitive property of feminine activity, that means yoga is like cheering.
I assume you mean the feminine transitive property, which is the property that a woman can take 2 things that have nothing to do with each other and make them related.
For example:
"Are you not using a coaster? If you can't use coasters how can I trust you with children?"
:P
Frack you sounds better.
Frell that.
in ones birthday suit is just the preparation for jogging in ones birthdays suit. All the cool people are doing it. 
Been there, done that, didn't wear the t-shirt....
Been there, done that, didn't wear the t-shirt....
-stealth video tapes Minja and DirtyFrank
ing in birthday suits, sells bootleg DVDs of it for 5 bucks a pop-Oh yeah....
-stealth video tapes Minja and DirtyFrank
Oh yeah....
Oh, so offended. I am worth SO much more than that. ;)
Oh, so offended. I am worth SO much more than that. ;)
See, I thought that was more of a jab at df myself. ;)
Oh, so offended. I am worth SO much more than that. ;)
Ah but when one has something new to the market it is best to sell it first at a cheap price than then if it takes off you dramatically jack up the price. ^^
*sells a couple of DVDs and the jacks the price up on the rest of them to 25 dollars a pop*
-stealth video tapes Minja and DirtyFrank
Oh yeah....
I demand 25%.
No Smoking. That's the plan. I love it when a plan comes together *takes puff on a carrot stick*.
HAIL TO THE BRUTAL ELITE!!!
Oh, so offended. I am worth SO much more than that. ;)
You're worth more but not me. I mean, who the
would want to see me in my birthday suit? That would have to be one disturbed woman (or man).ing and ing for Idolis while in my birthday suit.Shake that thang, DF
*sings* Wiggle it...Just a little bit...*
Yeah, dance dance dance
of ing in his birthday suit so dirtyfrank will continue ing in his birthday suit. :DPfft. The horn has been sterilized, and it's not really blood, it's cherry soda.
Well that's better, I guess. Lame-o. But better.
Congrats to Idolis!
ing in our own birthday suits we in dirty's birthday suit. Who what to wear dirtyfrank first? ;)Who what to wear dirtyfrank first? ;)
Have you never worn a person before? Man, you're really missing out. I hear dirtyfrank is a comfortable fit. I wouldn't know myself but that's what I've heard.
Have you never worn a person before? Man, you're really missing out. I hear dirtyfrank is a comfortable fit. I wouldn't know myself but that's what I've heard.
.... :lightbulb .... .... 
.... ummm, no?
Well, if you ever want to wear a person then just go to the store and buy a pair of dirtyfranks. Like I said before, I hear they fit quite comfortably.
Non of what? I was only giving her fashion advice. Can a girl not look pretty while being comfortable nowadays? no?.....yeah I know, "That's what she said."
Assuming you are still off smoking right?
Oh and by the way, at the same time I found out my brother is quitting smoking. Theres a lot of gum around now, and not the kind you give to kids.
Many thanks to everyone.
Keep it up Idolis!
Ya Idolis. Keep that thing extended.
LOL. Sorry guys, haven't been updating and lost the count and don't feel like trying to figure it out. But I haven't been smoking so that is all that matters.
Many thanks to everyone.
You could go back to your last post with a number and count how many days that were. Or one of us could do it. Or you could do it. *shrug*
Yeah, I'm skirting the line pretty close.
Yeah, I'm skirting the line pretty close.
You have a camera up the line's skirt? And close you say? Wow, what a perv. Did you at least get her permission first?
I could. You want pics?
What a perv. :PI: Couldn't be.
DF: Then who?
WAIT WHAT??
Yeah StealthMarmot did....
WAIT WHAT??
what he said
Damn it. I hate the Northlands. Snow, a bunch of it, is falling. A blizzard at the end of March. You gotta be kiddin' me!
How's that?
Still no smoking, Dirtyfrank. I'm a chillin' and a feelin' the natural buzz of life.
Well, that a little sample of some stuff Bud gave me.
Cool dude, cool.
Day 17.
Still no smoking, Dirtyfrank. I'm a chillin' and a feelin' the natural buzz of life.
Well, that a little sample of some stuff Bud gave me.
Cool dude, cool.
Ah yes, since we all know the best way to quit cigarettes is to smoke weed instead.
Ah yes, since we all know the best way to quit cigarettes is to smoke weed instead.
Maybe he meant beer? Budweiser? I hope.
*crosses fingers behind his back*
Still no smoking and I would like to apologize to those offended by the way I have been playing in the Edition War. I realize that most of those involved in the game don't come to this thread, so I repost this in the threads relevant to the war so more will see it.
I have been playing selfishly and hurting my teams cause by doing so. I may have won a lot of battles with by using my pet but it has prevented other team members from fighting in important battles and has limited their roleplay.
I would like to apologize to both TA and ZB because one I had role played with but have prevented further play through the use of my pet and the other I have not been in the same place with and so it appears that I am ignoring him.
I sincerely apologize and hope this very bad habit does not overflow into the games I plan to play with my new group.
2) Everyone has mistakes they made. For example, I god-moded until everyone told me to knock it off or go away. Chill. It's just fine.
Thanks for you understanding.
Still no smoking. Had a really bad craving today because my wife and I went to the casino and it seemed like everywhere I went someone was smoking a cigarette right next to.
I was able to resist but the craving has stuck. I'll be okay but it sucks that I can't go out someplace without my old habit bothering me.
Day 19.
Still no smoking. Had a really bad craving today because my wife and I went to the casino and it seemed like everywhere I went someone was smoking a cigarette right next to.
I was able to resist but the craving has stuck. I'll be okay but it sucks that I can't go out someplace without my old habit bothering me.
One of the cool things about quitting smoking in California is that most places are non smoking or have separate areas for smoke and nonsmoke. Of course it is a bad thing as in how they limits peoples ability to do stuff they enjoy by making tons of nonsmoking laws. Smokers are kind of demonized in some places throughout California. Well, not really demonized but looked down upon as if they are lesser people.
The rest of the country is getting in line. Minnesota has no smoking in all places of business but casinos because they are owned by native americans and so aren't subject to State Law.
I personally think that non/anti-smoking laws are a bunch of BS. I think that it should be up to businesses to decide if they want to allow smoking or not and that they shouldn't be forced into punish smokers. All anti-smoking laws are is a way to try and slowly shut down smoking companies. Yes, I do like that there are few places in California that allow smoking, but I hate that it is because the government forced it upon everyone rather than it being the decision of businesses to ban such behavior. So ya, I'm a bit mixed on this one. I support smoking when it comes to personal rights and freedoms.
/I personally think that non/anti-smoking laws are a bunch of BS. I think that it should be up to businesses to decide if they want to allow smoking or not and that they shouldn't be forced into punish smokers. All anti-smoking laws are is a way to try and slowly shut down smoking companies. Yes, I do like that there are few places in California that allow smoking, but I hate that it is because the government forced it upon everyone rather than it being the decision of businesses to ban such behavior. So ya, I'm a bit mixed on this one. I support smoking when it comes to personal rights and freedoms.
The same with punitive taxes. There are so many stop smoking campaigns and yet they raise the tax on cigarettes to raise money for the government. And the government is spending that money before they have it. Eventually smoker's will quit and then where would that money come from?
The same with punitive taxes. There are so many stop smoking campaigns and yet they raise the tax on cigarettes to raise money for the government. And the government is spending that money before they have it. Eventually smoker's will quit and then where would that money come from?
That's kind of what California has been doing. There are some programs that get nearly all their money from taxes on things like alcohol and smoking. Every once in a while the government hikes up the price of these things to try and stop people from smoking and drinking, and so that the government program can get more money. The only thing that really happens is that lots of people quit smoking or cut back on their smoking and drinking. So then the program gets nowhere the amount of money it was promised and has to borrow from else where. Apparently law makers don't think that if you make smoking cost an arm and a leg that people will actually quit smoking.
That's kind of what California has been doing. There are some programs that get nearly all their money from taxes on things like alcohol and smoking. Every once in a while the government hikes up the price of these things to try and stop people from smoking and drinking, and so that the government program can get more money. The only thing that really happens is that lots of people quit smoking or cut back on their smoking and drinking. So then the program gets nowhere the amount of money it was promised and has to borrow from else where. Apparently law makers don't think that if you make smoking cost an arm and a leg that people will actually quit smoking.
That misconception is the source of the problem and it goes back to smoking being addictive. It will keep people coming back until it reaches the level of severe discomfort in the finances of that individual.
They're gambling that people will keep coming back.
Another thing is, they can do it too because they keep raising the minimum wage and it compensates for the loss of income among most smokers for what they lost buying a carton of cigarettes every week or two.
Another thing is, they can do it too because they keep raising the minimum wage and it compensates for the loss of income among most smokers for what they lost buying a carton of cigarettes every week or two.
All raising minimum wage get accomplished is getting more people laid off. Same thing with raising corporate taxes.
No smoking for Idolis today. Made it through the night and I am feeling pretty good about that.
GO IDOLIS!!
Day 20.
No smoking for Idolis today. Made it through the night and I am feeling pretty good about that.
Great job! Keep it up!
HOWEVER, if 4E doesn't get the blade, in the RP I will explain it as Shade giving it to 3E, to show that he really isn't favoring any side.
I also have been working on my character(s) for the next war. He will never switch sides. He's an escaped gladiator that lived as a slave in the 2E Republic, and now he wants to get back at them.
And he has a Gnome Wizard partner called 'Twitch'. Said Wizard aspires to become The Mage King's Apprentice.
So I get to play BOTH concepts that I came up with! :D
Nah, just kidding.
Day 20.
No smoking for Idolis today. Made it through the night and I am feeling pretty good about that.
GO!! :D
GO IDOLIS!!
GO!! :D
We look the same, though...
;)
Somehow, I doubt that, but I'll take your word for it.
Then you should see us do our cheer routine.
KGM, got your cheer outfit ready?
(I'm the one on top - I have no idea who the dude on the right is.)
That's no dude, that's Minja. Are you calling Minja a dude?
Ahem...Uh, what were you saying again?
Three weeks without a smoke. This is where I screwed up before and I don't think it is going to happen again. Thank you all for your support.
Ohio's (fairly) recently passed anti-smoking laws are part of what helped me quit. When I could still smoke inside the bar it was impossible to quit. All that booze made smoking seem like a good idea. ;) That said, I hate the laws. It's our right to do what we please with the products we buy. And it's up to the owners of a business to decide what perfectly legal activity theyll allow. I still get angry when I think about the massive tax increases on smokes and booze that paid for Cleveland's stadium and other renovation projects. We paid increased money to fund a project that immediately disallowed using the products that paid for the thing in the first place. You could smoke, just not in your seat. Cuz second hand smoke is terrible in a friggin' open stadium. Morons. You figure with all that cancer causing money they made, they'd at least allow the people killing themselves to fund the thing to kill themselves while they were in it, ya' know?
I understand this statement completely and am in complete agreement. The laws and taxes are two reasons why I am quiting. It is kinda' weird that I have seen what smoking does to people. A close friend of the family has COPD but that wasn't enough to make me quit. No, it was cigarettes going up 60 cents a pack or $6 a carton that helped me decide. Funny how that worked.
I understand this statement completely and am in complete agreement. The laws and taxes are two reasons why I am quiting. It is kinda' weird that I have seen what smoking does to people. A close friend of the family has COPD but that wasn't enough to make me quit. No, it was cigarettes going up 60 cents a pack or $6 a carton that helped me decide. Funny how that worked.
Yep. Money is a great motivator. And you can't deny it. Health impact, otoh, isn't nearly as cut and dry. Ask George Burns. Ok, you can't. Cuz he died. Not from lung cancer and not young. He made it to 100, right? And he smoked cigars every day. Dana Reeve? Didn't smoke. Dead from lung cancer. Now we can show that smoking causes cancer and that second hand smoke can as well. In lab rats. I'm sure that smoking poses substantial health risk, but you could question the fact. You can't question the price hike, though. Funny how the addicted mind works, no? Health? I've been smoking for X years and I'm fine. Cost? I've been smoking for X years and **** that! ;) :D
Things are going well. Planning a wedding, a character for a game, and deciding what snacks to buy is harder than I thought, lol.
The snacks were a hit. The store had a sale, buy 4 bags for $10 so we picked up some Doritos both Nacho and Ranch and Cheetos both Puffs and Crunch. Everyone dug the Doritos so the others were unnecessary but that's cool because I like the Puff's anyway and I always like to snack while sitting on my fat ass in front of the boob tube cuddle up to my girl.
. The store had a sale, buy 4 bags for $10 so we picked up some Doritos both Nacho and Ranch and Cheetos both Puffs and Crunch.
I miss my snacking.Losing weight is always good but people expect everyone to look like a model simply by doing exercise and eating like a rabbit and it just don't work that way.
That said, congratulations on your weight loss and keep up the good work. You have set realistic goals and you are well on your way to achieving those goals.
Today is cool. My wife and her friends are going to Minneapolis to go shopping so I have the whole house to myself for the entire day.
I have to work and then go run a D&D game. I should try preparing something while at work. I hope it's slow today.
My wife helps me alot because she simply says, "You will not be going outside at the reception to smoke. You're going to be too busy dancing."
Well, on second thought, that last bit doesn't help much. I hate dancing.
Day 41. Not smoking today but as the wedding is getting closer the urges are growing stronger. I don't need a smoke necessarily. I'm just saying every now and then, it's like, "I could really use a cig."
My wife helps me alot because she simply says, "You will not be going outside at the reception to smoke. You're going to be too busy dancing."
Well, on second thought, that last bit doesn't help much. I hate dancing.
GO IDOLIS GO Idolis: NP. My dad smoked for a long time when I was younger. The smoke would stay in his beard and it was gross.
But, she wants a wedding and so I'm going to do it. I'm just going be really uncomfortable thinking about all the embarrassing stuff I might do.
You see, I have PTSD but the things I flash back to are all things that were really embarassing to me as I grew up well into my 20's. I hope my wedding doesn't become a painful memory because of it.
Like I said, the closer the wedding gets the more I just want to hide. I know it's weird because weddings are supposed to be happy and everything but to tell the truth it scares the hell out of me.
Just because a person does something and enjoys it, doesn't mean that the activity is cool. It just means that they enjoy an uncool activity. It's perfectly fine if a person likes to enjoy an uncool activity.
And just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make it uncool.
Dancing has been a benchmark of cool for a long, long, long time. :P
I wouldn't care if I was good at it or not. I get embarassed by it. I don't like to stand out which is why I tried to convince my wife to get married at the courthouse and skip the whole formal wedding and reception thing.
But, she wants a wedding and so I'm going to do it. I'm just going be really uncomfortable thinking about all the embarrassing stuff I might do.
You see, I have PTSD but the things I flash back to are all things that were really embarassing to me as I grew up well into my 20's. I hope my wedding doesn't become a painful memory because of it.
Like I said, the closer the wedding gets the more I just want to hide. I know it's weird because weddings are supposed to be happy and everything but to tell the truth it scares the hell out of me.
Just remember this. If your PTSD hits and it messes up the wedding your wife will always have something to hold over your head....and she likely will. You'll be like 70 and she'll bring it up out of the blue.
And just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make it uncool.
Dancing has been a benchmark of cool for a long, long, long time. :P
Only a benchmark for those uncool people that like to pretend they're cool. :P
Just remember this. If your PTSD hits and it messes up the wedding your wife will always have something to hold over your head....and she likely will. You'll be like 70 and she'll bring it up out of the blue.
Tell me about it.
But keep it up, Idolis!!
KICK SMOKING IN THE B@!!$
Did you happen to read what I did with the goblins in the roleplay thread?
Anyway, thanks for the support.
You'd see me more if you didn't live in the EW RP! :P
That's what I meant about not seeing you in a while. How have things been? Did you ever get that stuff sorted out with your Dad?
Pretty cool, I've almost made it a month and a half.
Reward yourself for reaching the goals as well. Like say on your two month no smoke anniversary go out and have a nice dinner somewhere with your significant other.
Going out and buying myself a new outfit whenever I want can lead to financial ruin, so I usually buy clothes when I need them. Every so often, however, I reward myself with a new outfit or something like that.
As for the celebration - it's totally for a job well done. I understand it. You're suppose to celebrate your victories. :P
Exactly.
Anyway, you can celebrate your personal victories but my main problem is with sports teams, who are manned by well-paid players. They already are rewarded by thier super high wages. To then celebrate what you were already rewarded for seems like it is wrong somehow.
Umm. Aren't we forgetting that sport has a li'l extra something goin' for it that your standard job does not? Namely, physical competition. Sports inspire the people playing them in ways that exceed the simple bodily response to doing a job. They do so because, well, sports ain't a job. Professional sports may pay, but that's about as close to a job as they get.
If you get paid for something, it makes it a job. Hey, I like it when my team wins and I celebrate all the time simply because I help pay for the team everytime I go to the ballpark. My entertainment is a fitting reward.
If you get paid for something, it makes it a job. Hey, I like it when my team wins and I celebrate all the time simply because I help pay for the team everytime I go to the ballpark. My entertainment is a fitting reward.
Yeah, it is a "job" in that it pays. But the similarities in the work world between you and LeBron end right there. ;) They celebrate because they win. We don't win anything at our jobs. What I'm trying to say is that the physical, mental and emotional requirements, responses and reactions are far different if your "job" happens to be pro-athlete. It's not silly that they celebrate. They operate in a different work world than we do. Yeah, it'd be silly if I HI-V'd a member of my dept after I fixed some sort of problem. It ain't silly to HI-V your shooting guard after he makes the game winning shot. Different worlds. Judging them - as some are attempting to do - based on criteria used in our normal work lives is goofy at best.
Pro sports also require greater team chemistry than any job you'll ever work (outside of the military) and these celebrations help with team cohesion. In reality, if they didn't celebrate, they'd not be properly doing their jobs. ;)
Yeah, it'd be silly if I HI-V'd a member of my dept after I fixed some sort of problem.
You should try it. It can be quite entertaining to see peoples reactions.
Um I don't know about everyone else, but when I played sports throughout my youth, my whole youth, I didn't cheer or celebrate wins. So yeah, I don't buy the whole "physical, mental and emotional requirements, responses and reactions" line of thinking because it didn't happen at all for me. Celebrating like such just seem immature. It of course makes sense because of how a lot of professional athletes act and behave on and off the field/court.
You should try it. It can be quite entertaining to see peoples reactions.
Um I don't know about everyone else, but when I played sports throughout my youth, my whole youth, I didn't cheer or celebrate wins. So yeah, I don't buy the whole "physical, mental and emotional requirements, responses and reactions" line of thinking because it didn't happen at all for me. Celebrating like such just seem immature. It of course makes sense because of how a lot of professional athletes act and behave on and off the field/court.
Huh. That's interesting. I'm not what you'd call a people person, but when I do well in a fight or play well in a pick-up football gaem or something, I'm perfectly ok with cheering and even physical contact (HI-Vs, etc afterward). So I guess I "get it" as far as why an athlete would celebrate for "doing his job". As a fan, I also enjoy it. They look like they're enjoying the opportunity their talents have given them. And it makes them seem more personable. Watching the Cavs this season, for example, you can see the bond between the players and it's something that's inspired the fans. If you play at The Q and you're not a Cav, you will suffer greatly for it. The fan participation helped the Cavs earn a near perfect home record, too. At the same time, genuinely sharing in their triumphs has bonded them as a team - and allowed them to play even beyond the sum of their parts. It's helped them do their job. ;)
They're job is to play the sport. After a contract is signed, it doesn't matter if the team wins or loses, the guys are still getting paid. ;)
Since it's a competative thing, whoever does their job better wins, thus the cause for celebration.
So there. :P
Since it's a competative thing, whoever does their job better wins, thus the cause for celebration.
But it's their job which doesn't constitute cheering. One shouldn't cheer for meeting their status queue.
But it's their job which doesn't constitute cheering. One shouldn't cheer for meeting their status queue.
Reread that. Playing is their job. Celebrating when they win is like your boss telling you "good job" when you do a good job. :D
Reread that. Playing is their job. Celebrating when they win is like your boss telling you "good job" when you do a good job. :D
And do you quit working and celebrate for several hours every time your boss says "good job"? No.
GO IDOLIS GO Today you get the first thank you.
And do you quit working and celebrate for several hours every time your boss says "good job"? No.
If it was acceptable to do so? Hell yeah. That said, different businesses have different conventions.
For programmers, it is acceptable to goof off at work for a while, because code compilation takes a long time. Also, in that kind of environment, high fives once you've cracked a particular piece of code or nailed an elusive bug, HI-Vs wouldn't be out of place.
In my current work environment (library) such things would be unsightly.
It all depends on where you work and the social conventions for that place.
On the late shift we have a 3 hour time where we get at most 1-2 calls each. Many days we get none. We do some emails, but that takes like maybe 30 minutes out of that time.
We spend time throwing tennis balls to each other. I refer to it as "analog pong".
That was a pretty laid back job when it was slow, but nerve-fraying when we were busy.
No smoking and I want a "resident" title. Everyone else seems to have one. I was thinking "Resident Toker" but I'm not sure.
Maybe Resident Stoner. Yeah, that could work.
Does it do it for you.
Resident Other guy getting cheered on by his forumites?
Resident Cheer Recipient? (though you may have to fight the Marmot over that one)
The reason I suggest a reward, is because it reinforces a positive with not smoking. It's a subconscious thing. If all you associate with your attempt to quit is nicotine withdraws and a nebulous far reaching "being healthier" it might be easier for you to fall off the wagon.
An immediate reward is also positive reinforcement. You'll associate on a very subconscious level that your life gets better when you aren't smoking all the way around.
I'm not saying reward yourself extravagantly every day you aren't smoking. Just once in a while. It also gives you a feeling of accomplishment that "hey I went another month without smoking. I can do this... I'll go another month" and so forth.
Besides your significant other would probably appreciate the attempts to quit smoking if you've rewarded his/her patience by taking him/her out. And they will probably appreciate the going out too... so you might be rewarded twice in one day.
Now, all that said, I want to point out that I'm not offering any opinion on the methods any other person chooses to use. It's just what works for me, you know? If you like to or need to count the days, go for it. Whatever works. :D
I want to say that when I get married in July I'm going to have to start the count over because I am having a cigar on my wedding day. Cigs are my thing but a celebratory cigar is different and I feel it won't get me started back on cigarettes.
However, I would like to know if anyone knows a particularly good brand of cigar that isn't outrageously priced. I think my budget is going to be around 25-30 dollars.
Or a really really really cheap one that you won't even finish. (so you'll be repulsed at the idea of having a smoke again)
You sir may be missing the big picture :P
Definite grats on not smoking and also grats on getting married.
.....can I get a resident title too?
The cigar is like the finishing touch. So far, for a formal wedding, we have been able to get quality stuff relatively inexpensively. Some of this is due to the place where we are having the wedding.
We are getting married at a ski resort and another couple is getting married there the following day so we split the cost of decorating the hall and things like that.
The most expensive thing was the dress which cost a $1000 but her parents paid for that. We're renting my tux which will be around another $200 but we won some money at a casino when I took my (soon-to-be) wife there for her birthday earlier this month.
Basically, what I'm saying is we've been pretty lucky about not breaking the bank on the wedding.
No smoking. Everything is cool today. It is a beautiful day here. Looks like it is finally warming up.
GO IDOLIS GO!! GO IDOLIS GO!! GO!No Smoking.
Been really really busy planning the wedding. Won't be on too long tonight. Just wanted to give an update.
Way to go!
HUZZAH! :fight!:Still no smoking.
Thanks everyone for your support. I've been busy with wedding plans and that explains my long abscence (nuff said).
It's been a wild ride but the habit seems to be on the losing side of this battle.
So allow me the pleasure of saying, Go Idolis Go!!!
Day 76.
Still no smoking.
Thanks everyone for your support. I've been busy with wedding plans and that explains my long abscence (nuff said).
It's been a wild ride but the habit seems to be on the losing side of this battle.
So allow me the pleasure of saying, Go Idolis Go!!!
There ya go. If you do have a bad craving, you can drown it in cake testing :D
good job!
HUZZAH!! :fight!:Nope no smoking. Not for me. Nope, nohow noway. And that's the lesson for today.
Now keep on not polluting the air in and out of your lungs. You are doing great. I'm sure you are noticing those stairs are a bit easier to climb now.
No jk. Yeah the stairs up to my computer room have become a little easier to climb. If it weren't for those stairs I wouldn't get any exercise.
The last time I was in any kind of shape was when I worked in a rubber injection molding plant and had to throw around steel plates all day.
Ah the good ol' days when I could actually work.
GO IDOLIS GO!! Keep up the good work! I know weddings can be stressful, so congratulations on keeping on track! :D
I wish I had stairs. This way when I get bored I could walk up and down them for a few minutes to tire myself out. This way it will seem like a good idea to just sit and be lazy for a while.
Why on earth would anyone want more stairs?? you crazy :P
Still not smoking.
Nothing witty today because I can't stay on. Thanks everyone.
No smoking.
Uhm, 79. Well, its close to 80. 80 is close to 90. 90 is close to 100. 100 looks a lot like 1000.
Wow, day 1000, that went pretty fast.
Seriously though, its the smokeless tobacco that the real pain when it comes to kissing.
Either way, glad to see you've come so far and I'll keep rooting for you.
If they followed the law, if they listened when you said "hey, I'm asthmatic could you please not smoke in a place you are not allowed to?". Then they would have to listen to the very common custom over here of trying to make them uncomfortable. Heck, I've seen people cut their toenails in front of smoker at an airport in order to gross them put and make them stop (they were inspired by a successful AD campaign, but hey, it worked).
And what is there to be tolerant of? THey are slowly killing themselves, their children, and everyone around them.
I consider it jerkitude when in a country where you are only allowed to smoke in private places, you decide to poison everyone around you in VERY public places.
Uh huh. "I don't like what you're doing, so I'm going to act like an *******. That makes me righter and you wronger". Got it. ;)
Look, if they're doing something actually illegal (I don't know where you live or what the law is) it does not give you the right to behave like an angry child towards them - nor does it justify this behavior. Fortunately, there is an adult option available - report them to the authorities. Deciding to be a dick, no matter how justified in doing so you may feel you are, still means that you're acting like a dick. On purpose. Don't be a dick.
Uh huh. "I don't like what you're doing, so I'm going to act like an *******. That makes me righter and you wronger". Got it. ;)
Look, if they're doing something actually illegal (I don't know where you live or what the law is) it does not give you the right to behave like an angry child towards them - nor does it justify this behavior. Fortunately, there is an adult option available - report them to the authorities. Deciding to be a dick, no matter how justified in doing so you may feel you are, still means that you're acting like a dick. On purpose. Don't be a dick.
Fair enough, and I don't claim rightness in what I do. But you must admit that there are times when annoyance gets the better of you and you feel the need to slap someone. I do not actively look for smoker to deride, mainly because there are smokers in my family, I know that it is a vice with a cold hard grip that is difficult to break. But there are situations, mainly those two (airports and long lines where the only way you can get away is by reaching the end of the line) where I feel offended that I have to risk my health because of the carelessness of others. And often times you do have to try to defeat them at their own game when listening doesn't work and the police (already busy with the severe drug and gang problem) can't be bothered (or so they say, though having friends in the force I'm forced to give them the benefit of the doubt) with 'trivial issues'; and often say, solve it yourself.
And I feel pretty strongly about this issue, I've seen my cousins' respiratory system destroyed by the mere fact that they have smoking parents. I do see smoking (which is, thankfully practically non-existent in public anymore where I come from) as a serious health concern that should be treated as such.
But you must admit that there are times when annoyance gets the better of you and you feel the need to slap someone.
Yes, and as a mature adult who highly values personal freedoms, I ignore that impulse.
Fair enough, and I don't claim rightness in what I do. But you must admit that there are times when annoyance gets the better of you and you feel the need to slap someone.
Yeah, everybody snaps occasionally. I get that. It's something to watch, though, cuz it makes us less than we can be. Keeping that stuff in check is what keeps you from dropping to - or below - the level of the originator of the annoyance.
EDIT: You also used the word "usually" indicating that you do, in fact, engage in this practice more times than not. Don't fault me for your faulty presentation, k?
Either way, I edited it, I hope it's less offensive now? And can we put this past us?
Okay, Brothergizmo, I'm sorry you have had bad experiences with impolite smokers. I am a smoker but have never been impolite to anybody. Even when outside, say at a bus stop, I asked the people around me if they minded if I smoked.
Also, I'm a little unsure but I am pretty sure that there has never been a documented instance of lung cancer from second hand smoke. There is risk to a fetus if a mother smokes while pregnant and I'm sure that smoking aggravates your asthma but I am also pretty certain that so does dust and pollen and any number of other environmental hazards.
My parents smoked, in fact my whole family smoked at one time or another and according to you I should be dying of lung cancer and I'm not.
Relax buddy, I'm not blowing smoke in your face. And to my knowledge neither is anyone else on this forum.
Excuse the rant but I catch hell from two directions and I'm getting tired of it. You see, I'm a little overweight and I am trying to quit smoking and everywhere I turn I see someone ranting about how my fat ass or my cigarettes affect them.
I don't go to places to hassle people with my smoking or eating habits.
Again, if this post in any way is offensive to you, I humbly ask that you forgive me but I've had enough.
Excuse the rant but I catch hell from two directions and I'm getting tired of it. You see, I'm a little overweight and I am trying to quit smoking and everywhere I turn I see someone ranting about how my fat ass or my cigarettes affect them.
Who's giving you a heard time about your weight affecting them? At least smoking there's second hand smoke, and some people have other lung problems and stuff, but weight? What now? That's beyond BS.
@ Sier
It hasn't happened on here in a while but there are people out there that say they feel nautious or some such thing when they are around fat people or that people are so over-weight that they are so unappealing to watch eat at restaurants. Or go on and on about having to sit next to these people in a movie theater because they actually eat popcorn and have a soda while watching a movie.
Then there's the people that go off about how because they have had experiences with impolite smokers and think, "All smokers are the same. Rudest people in the world if you ask me. Blowing their smoke in my face, who do they think they are," as if we're all like that.
Anyway, I got this all off my chest yesterday. I am just answering your question about who does the talking about weight and giving examples about the things I've seen.
Before you ask, yes there have been posts on this forum complaining about heavy people.
Then there's the people that go off about how because they have had experiences with impolite smokers and think, "All smokers are the same. Rudest people in the world if you ask me. Blowing their smoke in my face, who do they think they are," as if we're all like that.
As a furry I know how you feel. "All furries are the same, they like boinkin' goats." Personally, that offends me, I only boink wolves thank you very much, Mr. "I-know-everything-but-really-I-don't".
Some people are just rude.
Day 81.
Congrats. That's very impressive.
I have decided to quit due to the constant nagging of my wife combined with other reasons of my own. I want the transition to be as painless as possible. Help me please.
Have you read When You Are Engulfed in Flames? It's not exactly a self help book, but it's funny as sin.
As a furry I know how you feel. "All furries are the same, they like boinkin' goats." Personally, that offends me, I only boink wolves thank you very much, Mr. "I-know-everything-but-really-I-don't".
Some people are just rude.
Pig, you know you love the attention. Positive, negative, you don't care. You just like attention.
Pig, you know you love the attention. Positive, negative, you don't care. You just like attention.
...I guess I am an attention ho...
...I guess I am an attention ho...
You just like your attention with a little fur on it is all.
...I guess I am an attention ho...
Yes, but you are inexperienced still, young padawan.
:D LOOK @ ME - IM AZN GRL :D
See how well that works?
:D LOOK @ ME - IM AZN GRL :D
"AZN"? I don't get that part.
And sides, if Pig wanted us to believe he was a girl, he's have to start a new account and not admit he was pig. Or come out about his gender identity disorder. But I don't see either of those happening soon, so I doubt that particular attention-grabbing technique is right for pig.
AZN = asian by the way
AZN = Asian
... this is one of those "internet" things that I don't want to know about, right?
... this is one of those "internet" things that I don't want to know about, right?
No, not really. It's just an abbriviation (I know I spelt that wrong).
Yes, but you are inexperienced still, young padawan.
:D LOOK @ ME - IM AZN GRL :D
See how well that works?
I'm not AZN, or a GRL, but I feel like a girl sometimes. Does that count?
I'm not AZN, or a GRL, but I feel like a girl sometimes. Does that count?
I've seen every episode of Gilmore Girls, if that doesn't make a guy a girl, nothing does.
I've seen every episode of Gilmore Girls, if that doesn't make a guy a girl, nothing does.
Gimme a hug sis.
Gimme a hug sis.
*Hugs*
Wanna have a pillow fight in our underwear and charge $19.99 for a copy?
*Hugs*
Wanna have a pillow fight in our underwear and charge $19.99 for a copy?
I think that, whatever way your tastes may go, that statement proves you're a guy. Maybe a guy in a pretty pink dress with curlers in your hair, but still a guy.
I think that, whatever way your tastes may go, that statement proves you're a guy. Maybe a guy in a pretty pink dress with curlers in your hair, but still a guy.
And if we're just cool with the pillow fight but not the other part?
straight men don't make sense, EE. They never will
Eh. It's not a "straight guy" thing, nor a "straight", nor a "guy" thing. It's a human thing. Humans don't make sense, and never will.
LIke the guy - I totally gave him the "I'm obviously attracted to you" look. no response....
Uh, look. I know you have self-esteem issues of your own but... seriously. We all know this song and dance... if you like the guy and not sure how he'll respond, don't keep beating around the bush. Just ask him out.
Sure, maybe he'll say no. But he might say yes.
so, moving on...
Go Idolis!! Dating advice? If you're going to talk about The Guy then you should probably talk about him in your thread unless he has something to do with quitting smoking. :P
Yep. But we aren't talking about that here anymore.
YAY IDOLIS!!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Who's giving you a heard time about your weight affecting them? At least smoking there's second hand smoke, and some people have other lung problems and stuff, but weight? What now? That's beyond BS.
Well, it's not BS. The impact upon others is not a physical one, but being overweight does factor into others' lives negatively in another way. If you've ever had to fill out an insurance application (health, life, home - yes, home), you'd have noticed that you were asked whether or not you were a smoker. This is so the insurance company can charge you more. Cuz you'll cost them more (while that's not a guarantee, they don't play when it comes to money). They also charge everybody a bit more to cover smokers. Since it's not cool to openly discriminate against the overweight, they don't charge ya' extra when you apply. They charge everybody more. Things do seem to be changing, though. When my fiancee and I applied for home/life insurance, they took blood samples (cholesteral check) and asked us our weight. So, it seems that eventually the overweight will face the same sort of discrimination issues in the open that smokers do right now - at least on the insurance front. ;) Good to know, right?
Oh! In case you're wondering, they did (of course) ask us if we smoked. And if you're a smoker and plannin' on just fudgin' it when the time comes, don't. They swab your mouth to make sure you're not a closet smoker. Not that there's a need for anyone to be a closet smoker ... oh wait ...
To bring this all back 'round to where it needs to be, I'm proud of you Idolis. Planning a wedding has got to be seriously stressful. We all know what smokers do when stressed and you have managed to avoid falling back into the habit. That's some damned good news that should have you feeling confident about your commitment to quit. Just stay vigilant. I still find myself wanting to light up now and again. It's much easier, but it's also not over. I don't think it ever will be totally finished, either. Hang in there. You're doin' a great job. :D
Yay for employers with generous benefit packages.
... Wow. You make me really glad that when I signed up for my current insurance plan the extent of the "interview" was just "fill out this application, your coverage will start in January."
Yay for employers with generous benefit packages.
Yeah, I've had some simpler ones like that. Most seem to ask whether you smoke or not, though. The house thing was odd. We had to have the agent dude meet us so that he could go through all this stuff an' ask all these questions an' take blood - and swabs to be tested for evidence of a smoking habit. Lots of fun.
Thanks folks the encouragement helps. And Zombie, yeah the urge is still there. I was out the other day doing some wedding shopping and I stepped outside to get some air. I guess it all of a sudden hit me that my Mom won't be at my wedding and it got me a little down.
Anyway, while I was outside another guy was there and offered me a cig. I took it and almost had it to my mouth before I realized what I was doing.
I gave the cig back to the guy but I have to say that if I had had a lighter with me I probably would be talking about Day 1 instead of Day 82.
I only offer my friends cigarettes and even then I wait till they quit first.
Keep up the good work Idolis, smokers like myself are a dieing breed.
I gave the cig back to the guy but I have to say that if I had had a lighter with me I probably would be talking about Day 1 instead of Day 82.
Yeah, that's why one of my first offerings of advice to you was to toss all of your lighters away. :D It was always easier to smoke again when I had a lighter around. That's why I got rid of 'em. The occasional close call is a good thing, too. It keeps ya focused. ;)
It bothers me when people start offering me cigs. Especially because I don't smoke. What would make some random stranger think that I smoke and that I need a cig? I've never understood it.
The reason is a simple one. Smoking is very much a social habit - 'specially now that smokers have been legally forced into sharing the same small spaces. It's an easy way to start up a conversation while also occasionally revealing a common interest/habit. I even knew a guy that purposefully never carried a lighter. Always smokes, but never a light. He used his lack of fire to meet people. It worked quite well for him. People offer smokes to strangers to be courteous and to strike up some sort of communication. Not much else to it, IMO. Now I never offered people smokes when I was still smokin'. But that's cuz I hate people and don't really want to talk to any of them that I don't already know. ;)
Yeah, that's why one of my first offerings of advice to you was to toss all of your lighters away. :D It was always easier to smoke again when I had a lighter around. That's why I got rid of 'em. The occasional close call is a good thing, too. It keeps ya focused. ;)
It's been my experience that only 2 types of people keep lighters on them... smokers, and pyromaniacs. I don't know how personal Idolis' relationship with fire is; but since he doesn't wnat to be a smoker anymore, getting rid of the lighters sounds like a great piece of advice.