I just got home from LARPing. i'm not the only one here who does that, right?
Yes. Yes you are. LARP is one step below RPG players and only two steps above Furries. This has been well documented.
I just got home from LARPing. i'm not the only one here who does that, right?
No you are not
I just got home from LARPing. i'm not the only one here who does that, right?
No you are not
you do it too then?
and Seeker95: aren't we all geeks here?
I just got home from LARPing. i'm not the only one here who does that, right?
Yes. Yes you are. LARP is one step below RPG players and only two steps above Furries. This has been well documented.
Nah. Furries are over LARPers.
To OP in the words of Jerry Seinfeld "not that there's anything wrong with that!"
Nah. Furries are over LARPers.
Yeah, it goes:
RPGers
Furries
LARPers
Erotic Furries
Bronies
Right? ;)
RPGers
Furries
LARPers
Erotic Furries
Bronies
Furries functionally equivalent to Erotic Furries
Pfft. you guys can make fun of me all you want. I don't care one bit. Though, I do highly recommend LARPing. It's intense. I came home sore and bruised.
We're not laughing at you. We're laughing toward you.
But seriously... In the D&D world, LARp is a small subset, but not an insignificant one.
There are also divisions and/or variations of LARPing. Battle re-enactment (further divided by which war), battle revision (where the victory is not pre-determined by history), paint-ball and air-soft, Capture-the-Flag, and cowboys-and-indians or cops-and-robbers are all variations of LARP. But most folks would not call these things LARP, reserving that term for medieval fantasy battle. I would say that in such a case, "most folks" are wrong.
When I say LARP, I guess I really should clarify. We just use Nerf swords and what not to fight. We'll use paper wads as various "spells", but we don't dress up or get into character. It's just a way to test our sword skills. We'll do rounds like Capture the flag, Army vs. army, Battle Royale, free-for-all, and defend the fort.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDDGJr6LOiw&feat... Here it is, if any of you are interested. i'm the geeky looking kid in the Beatle's shirt
I was going to mock you. But the challenge is gone
The challenge is gone? what challenge? :P
The challenge to device a cunning and savage mockery of larping vanished when you published your "star wars kid" tribute movie ;)
Why do people feel the need to rank other's geekery (geekitude? nerdosity?). The point is that people should feel comfortable in doing what they enjoy and not be judged by others and ostersized for their particular proclivities.
I've never had the time or opportunity to join a LARP, but I wish I had, and fear that it may be too late now.
I can also say that I just don't get the point of comic books. On entertainment for my dollar, story value, character development etc, I'd much rather read a novel. And for a visual story, I'd much rather watch a movie or tv show.
So, where does that put me in your ranking?
TjD
So, where does that put me in your ranking?
Right between the other two.
Why do people feel the need to rank other's geekery (geekitude? nerdosity?). The point is that people should feel comfortable in doing what they enjoy and not be judged by others and ostersized for their particular proclivities.
I was going to post something similar. Then I noticed that when he said LARPing he didn't mean Live Action Role Playing he meant running about with Nerf Weapons.
Nerf Weapons!
Lowest of the low!
j/k
Sorta ;)
I've LARPed twice at GenCon but I've avoided the "physical" LARPs like a plague. I'm in my mid 50's and going toe-to-toe with a 20 something kid wielding a sword (I don't care if it's Nerf) who hates his dad does not appeal to me for some reason. I enjoy the more acting improv type LARPs. They're cool. Too bad I couldn't squeeze one in at GenCon this year.
Edwarddarkforest,
I've LARPed twice at GenCon but I've avoided the "physical" LARPs like a plague. I'm in my mid 50's and going toe-to-toe with a 20 something kid wielding a sword (I don't care if it's Nerf) who hates his dad does not appeal to me for some reason. I enjoy the more acting improv type LARPs. They're cool. Too bad I couldn't squeeze one in at GenCon this year.
Agreed. The LARPS where you , for example, stay at a hotel for a weekend and have to RP appeals to me, not combat LARPs.
They both have their appeal.
When I was going to WWU, we had a Vampire: The Masquerade game on Fridays, and Werewolf: The Appocalypse on Saturdays; the former is far more social roleplaying while in the later, multiple combats are inevitable if not required. The most memorable sessions were where we did the opposite (fast paced vampire combats, and subdued, tragic, werewolf roleplay)
Nothing against LARPing, and forgive me for derailing, HOWEVER I never had an opportunity to express how disappointed I was with "Fantasy Freaks and Gaming Geeks" by Ethan Gilsdorf. The story of how he got drawn into D&D as an escape from his unfortunate home situation as a child really moved me. I purchased the book and was surprised that about 90% of the it turned out to be about his experiences of hanging out with and participating in LARPing.
Hmmm...glad I did not get this book when I was tempted to, then. This is one reason why so many people who don't understand RPGs think that it involves dressing up and acting out.
I think with the right group, LARPing may be fun. But it is as different from tabletop RPGs and an MMO is (which is to say, as many differences as similarities). Of course, I am old school and consider a "gamer" to be an tabletop gamer. Someone who plays video games and consoles is not, IMHO, a gamer...they are "someone who plays video games" :-)
Nothing against LARPing, and forgive me for derailing, HOWEVER I never had an opportunity to express how disappointed I was with "Fantasy Freaks and Gaming Geeks" by Ethan Gilsdorf. The story of how he got drawn into D&D as an escape from his unfortunate home situation as a child really moved me. I purchased the book and was surprised that about 90% of the it turned out to be about his experiences of hanging out with and participating in LARPing.
Hmmm...glad I did not get this book when I was tempted to, then. This is one reason why so many people who don't understand RPGs think that it involves dressing up and acting out.
I think with the right group, LARPing may be fun. But it is as different from tabletop RPGs and an MMO is (which is to say, as many differences as similarities). Of course, I am old school and consider a "gamer" to be an tabletop gamer. Someone who plays video games and consoles is not, IMHO, a gamer...they are "someone who plays video games" :-)
Agreed. In reference to the book, I just simply didn't enjoy reading chapter after chapter about every LARPING subculture he could find to participate in.
I just got home from LARPing. i'm not the only one here who does that, right?
Not the only Live Action Role Player: Here is the plans to my steam Kolben (for druid/fighters capable of using a heat metal spell to turn water to steam and fire a projectile...
You can get one made from brass and wood - just scale it to your need. Of course if you want to mass produce and sell them we will need to talk about 10% of profits being posted to me once a year.
LARPing doesnt count as gaming!
LARPers aren't gamers, they're targets.
LARPing doesnt count as gaming!
LARPers aren't gamers, they're targets.
Makes sense for it to be moved here then!
I just got home from LARPing. i'm not the only one here who does that, right?
Depends. Does mock combat, sans RP, spells, and other RPG traditions count?
WITFH is this? I dont recognize most of these posters, and the ones I do recognize I dont ussually see in the Tavern. Did this recently get moved here or something? The Tavern is now the place for LARPing!? I thought gaming talk was supposed to be forbidden here? LARPing doesnt count as gaming?
My sentiments exactly.
Hey, didn't RH make a thread about LARPing? Of course it was a very RH scenario, but still, I think it counts.
WITFH is this? I dont recognize most of these posters, and the ones I do recognize I dont ussually see in the Tavern. Did this recently get moved here or something? The Tavern is now the place for LARPing!? I thought gaming talk was supposed to be forbidden here? LARPing doesnt count as gaming?
My sentiments exactly.
Hey, didn't RH make a thread about LARPing? Of course it was a very RH scenario, but still, I think it counts.
RH LARPing!? ohhh yeah yeah, the Osama Bin Laden one. Im not sure that would really count, then we may as well say paintballing is LARP, and Laser Tag, well, hmmmmm, yeah I guess it does count, Live Action, and you are assuming a role, so yeah, it counts.
Does mock combat, sans RP, spells, and other RPG traditions count?
Well you got the live action thing down, but what about the role? Do you assume a different identity? do you have every one call you Slayer or something?
What do you mean by mock combat (Ive probably already asked you this)? Like foam swords, or real ones but you just try really hard not to kill each other (thats the way real men do it)?
Is the OTT really known as the House of Trolls on other boards? There was a group named that, wasn't there? They had pink polka-dot dresses, not OTTers in their avatars I think.
Not really but most of the OTTers have the "House of Trolls" thing in their sig. You know, like Front Door of The House of Trolls.
Is the OTT really known as the House of Trolls on other boards? There was a group named that, wasn't there? They had pink polka-dot dresses, not OTTers in their avatars I think.
Not really but most of the OTTers have the "House of Trolls" thing in their sig. You know, like Front Door of The House of Trolls.
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I just got home from LARPing. i'm not the only one here who does that, right?
Yes. Yes you are. LARP is one step below RPG players and only two steps above Furries. This has been well documented.
My sentiments exactly.
Hey, didn't RH make a thread about LARPing? Of course it was a very RH scenario, but still, I think it counts.
It was more just an excuse to shoot guns and for training than actual LARP.
My sentiments exactly.
Hey, didn't RH make a thread about LARPing? Of course it was a very RH scenario, but still, I think it counts.
It was more just an excuse to shoot guns and for training than actual LARP.
No one should need an excuse for that.
My sentiments exactly.
Hey, didn't RH make a thread about LARPing? Of course it was a very RH scenario, but still, I think it counts.
It was more just an excuse to shoot guns and for training than actual LARP.
No one should need an excuse for that.
Yeah well...
Is the OTT really known as the House of Trolls on other boards?
We should be known as The Awsesomeness that is the House of Trolls.
Well, in my opinion anyway.
Is the OTT really known as the House of Trolls on other boards?
We should be known as The Awsesomeness that is the House of Trolls.
Well, in my opinion anyway.
To be honest no one really refers to the OTT on other boards...
Is the OTT really known as the House of Trolls on other boards?
We should be known as The Awsesomeness that is the House of Trolls.
Well, in my opinion anyway.
To be honest no one really refers to the OTT on other boards...
Is the OTT really known as the House of Trolls on other boards?
We should be known as The Awsesomeness that is the House of Trolls.
Well, in my opinion anyway.
To be honest no one really refers to the OTT on other boards...
But, uh, it's notorious in PMs and group posts! Yeah.....
Is the OTT really known as the House of Trolls on other boards?
We should be known as The Awsesomeness that is the House of Trolls.
Well, in my opinion anyway.
To be honest no one really refers to the OTT on other boards...
But, uh, it's notorious in PMs and group posts! Yeah.....
and i chat about it on facebook all the time! I tell my friends how cool it is!
Is the OTT really known as the House of Trolls on other boards?
We should be known as The Awsesomeness that is the House of Trolls.
Well, in my opinion anyway.
To be honest no one really refers to the OTT on other boards...
But, uh, it's notorious in PMs and group posts! Yeah.....
and i chat about it on facebook all the time! I tell my friends how cool it is!
Here we go again.....
Flattery will get you nowhere!
Damnit.
Does mock combat, sans RP, spells, and other RPG traditions count?
Well you got the live action thing down, but what about the role? Do you assume a different identity? do you have every one call you Slayer or something?
What do you mean by mock combat (Ive probably already asked you this)? Like foam swords, or real ones but you just try really hard not to kill each other (thats the way real men do it)?
No role, just an attempt to hit the other guy while avoiding being hit myself.
Handmade padded facsimilies. Actual swords are expensive.
Mock combat is oxymoron, no?
I am well aware.
Hey. My name does not come from the sparkly fairy. It was the first name that came to mnd when i created the character.
Lies.
I am well aware.
Well ... ok, then.
Intent.
And force of blows too, I suppose.
I mean, MMA, boxing, karate matches... those don't always have the intent to really kill the other guy, just to have a good fight, ya know? Is that "mock" combat or "real" combat?
And having been in a suit of armor and swung padded sticks at someone (and gotten hammered in the chest such that I had trouble breathing for five minutes), I can tell you... there's force of blows. I was quite proud of the bruises (through the armor). That's why we wore real armor.
So... what intent is needed?
... what intent though?
I mean, MMA, boxing, karate matches... those don't always have the intent to really kill the other guy, just to have a good fight, ya know? Is that "mock" combat or "real" combat?
And having been in a suit of armor and swung padded sticks at someone (and gotten hammered in the chest such that I had trouble breathing for five minutes), I can tell you... there's force of blows. I was quite proud of the bruises (through the armor). That's why we wore real armor.
So... what intent is needed?
In MMA the intent is to win the fight.
Through submission or knock out.
I think the intent in such situations is to do enough harm to your opponent to render him unconcious or unable to continue. Close enough to count as "real" combat... to me.
Hitting each other with sticks, without the intent to render your opponent unconscious or incapacitated doesn't count.
In my opinion anyway.
*shrug*
... what intent though?
I mean, MMA, boxing, karate matches... those don't always have the intent to really kill the other guy, just to have a good fight, ya know? Is that "mock" combat or "real" combat?
And having been in a suit of armor and swung padded sticks at someone (and gotten hammered in the chest such that I had trouble breathing for five minutes), I can tell you... there's force of blows. I was quite proud of the bruises (through the armor). That's why we wore real armor.
So... what intent is needed?
Right. MMA is not combat. It's a fight under specific rules designed to mitigate injury and chance of death as much as humanly possible. Combat typically entails killing. If you simulate combat, you're not actually in combat. You're participating in a simulation. How accurate that simulation is (like if you get hurt or whatever) doesn't change the fact that nobody is trying to kill anyone else. Foam covered swords sort of end that argument. And that doesn't dismiss the real chance of injury (or worse) that these simulations pose. But it isn't combat. It's just a semi-dangerous simulation.
... what intent though?
I mean, MMA, boxing, karate matches... those don't always have the intent to really kill the other guy, just to have a good fight, ya know? Is that "mock" combat or "real" combat?
And having been in a suit of armor and swung padded sticks at someone (and gotten hammered in the chest such that I had trouble breathing for five minutes), I can tell you... there's force of blows. I was quite proud of the bruises (through the armor). That's why we wore real armor.
So... what intent is needed?
In MMA the intent is to win the fight.
Through submission or knock out.
I think the intent in such situations is to do enough harm to your opponent to render him unconcious or unable to continue. Close enough to count as "real" combat... to me.
Hitting each other with sticks, without the intent to render your opponent unconscious or incapacitated doesn't count.
In my opinion anyway.
*shrug*
I agree.And by the other account none of our combat sports count as "real", so being in the category of "mock" combat doesn't sound too sad.
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1Just 'cause you take precautions to make it harder to get knocked out doesn't mean that's not what you're still trying to do.
Is that clear?
And I think that if the "fake" weapons are still good enough to break bones (hence the need for real armor) that they're not so terrible, just not as lethal.
... so does that make boxing mock combat?
And I think that if the "fake" weapons are still good enough to break bones (hence the need for real armor) that they're not so terrible, just not as lethal.
Boxing does cause actual damage and boxers fight to win, not for fun. You could say a friendly sparring would be "mock boxing".
With armored swordplay it's mock by the combatants not trying to actually kill each other (see: techniques). If they were, they would probably be using axes, maces and warhammers instead of swords and would be aiming for weak spots (like exposed neck under the helmet).