I don't even know how to title this...

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#1

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 11, 2011 0:06:23
Every title I can think of that would be appropriate would be a CoC violation.

www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=459668
#2

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 11, 2011 0:41:58
Strange. I can't think of a title that would violate the CoC. Your mind is very twisted.


You're just not creative enough.
#3

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 11, 2011 1:02:32
Spring Balls?


Reported!!!
#4

ADHadh

Apr 11, 2011 1:27:48
But they're not spheres...
#5

iqwinn

Apr 11, 2011 1:39:56
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gFL7FBe_PA
#6

The_Silversword

Apr 11, 2011 2:22:07
I just dont get it at all, why cant they just call them Easter eggs like normal people? I realize its a religious holiday, and I guess theyre trying to be political correct or whatever, but really what do Easter eggs, candy, and the Easter Bunny have to do with Jesus or Passover? I guess I could sorta understand if they didnt want them called Jesus eggs or something, but I mean come one, Theyre freakin Easter eggs! Call them Easter Eggs!
#7

hawk52

Apr 11, 2011 2:44:40
I just dont get it at all, why cant they just call them Easter eggs like normal people? I realize its a religious holiday, and I guess theyre trying to be political correct or whatever, but really what do Easter eggs, candy, and the Easter Bunny have to do with Jesus or Passover? I guess I could sorta understand if they didnt want them called Jesus eggs or something, but I mean come one, Theyre freakin Easter eggs! Call them Easter Eggs!

The eggs symbolize rebirth or the resurrection of Jesus. The Easter bunny and candy are merely the commercializations such as Santa and the Christmas tree.
#8

pluisjen

Apr 11, 2011 4:35:04
Yeah they're overdoing it. As long as the easter eggs aren't accompanied by blessings and prayers and remembering the death of christ (I think it was death?) then there's nothing religious about them at all.
#9

Neutronium_Dragon

Apr 11, 2011 5:07:31
The tradition and symbolism of Easter eggs predates their adoption by Christianity, so they're not even religion-specific.
#10

Klirshon

Apr 11, 2011 6:16:45
This is atrocious; what kind of teacher would characterise an egg as a sphere? It is an ellipsoid.
If you're opting for a politically correct standard, use the proper terms.
#11

Robin_Hoodlum

Apr 11, 2011 6:22:05
Incredible.
People are offended by calling Easter Eggs, Easter Eggs... but yet will call a statue of the Virgin Mary covered in urine and feces "art"...

#12

pluisjen

Apr 11, 2011 6:34:10
You can call anything art these days, so I'm not surprised at all.

Perhaps the statue was about the art of trolling, though. That's a great art Undecided 
#13

Klirshon

Apr 11, 2011 6:47:24
I propose to blame this occurance on humans being too emotional.
#14

ViolenceJack

Apr 11, 2011 8:49:26

As some of you may have noticed, I have a much higher tolerance for this sort of thing than others. But this is indeed atrocious.


As pointed out, the egg and even the name Easter have origins that predate Christianity, the event of an Easter Egg hunt is now a secular affair with no mention of Jesus necessary, unless it takes place at a church. Bah. Humbug.

#15

Jharii

Apr 11, 2011 10:09:42
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.
#16

Mergad

Apr 11, 2011 10:13:54
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.



Jesus was adopted?

Well Then, Halloween is the only 100% Christian holiday in my book. And Mardi Gras.



Even Haloween has it's roots in pagan ways. I don't think christianity invented any of it's holydays, but adopted pagan ones. It happens with religions, they borrow from eachother.
#17

Jharii

Apr 11, 2011 10:18:49
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.



Jesus was adopted?

Well Then, Halloween is the only 100% Christian holiday in my book. And Mardi Gras.



Even Haloween has it's roots in pagan ways. I don't think christianity invented any of it's holydays, but adopted pagan ones. It happens with religions, they borrow from eachother.

Yeah, it was just good PR.  "Colorfully decorated trees?  We got that!"

#18

Maxperson

Apr 11, 2011 10:44:46
I just dont get it at all, why cant they just call them Easter eggs like normal people? I realize its a religious holiday, and I guess theyre trying to be political correct or whatever, but really what do Easter eggs, candy, and the Easter Bunny have to do with Jesus or Passover? I guess I could sorta understand if they didnt want them called Jesus eggs or something, but I mean come one, Theyre freakin Easter eggs! Call them Easter Eggs!

The eggs symbolize rebirth or the resurrection of Jesus. The Easter bunny and candy are merely the commercializations such as Santa and the Christmas tree.



Like Christmas, Easter is two different holidays.  A religious one, and a secular one.  There's nothing wrong with celebrating the secular versions in school.
#19

Maxperson

Apr 11, 2011 10:48:51
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.



Jesus was adopted?

Well Then, Halloween is the only 100% Christian holiday in my book. And Mardi Gras.



Halloween is also Pagan, sorry.  Good luck with Mardi Gras, though. ;)
#20

Maxperson

Apr 11, 2011 10:51:11
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.



Jesus was adopted?

Well Then, Halloween is the only 100% Christian holiday in my book. And Mardi Gras.



Even Haloween has it's roots in pagan ways. I don't think christianity invented any of it's holydays, but adopted pagan ones. It happens with religions, they borrow from eachother.



It wasn't so much a borrowing practice, as it was a conversion practice.  They took on the extra holidays to make the pagans more willing to convert to Christianity.
#21

boraxe

Apr 11, 2011 10:54:03
This thread should be titled "Some people need a good, solid kick in the spring spheres".

Not only are these frakking morons spreading more useless PC nonsense where none is required, they're also failing to teach children what a basic geometric shape! Someone there needs to be punched!
#22

Jharii

Apr 11, 2011 11:02:02
So are we disrespecting God when we indulge in these Golden Calf holidays?

Some would say yes.  Some would say no.  Some disrespect God in so many other ways that this would pale in comparison.

#23

Timmeh

Apr 11, 2011 11:11:29
Mean, Small-minded Potshot at Jharii (Don't get too mad, plz?): Should we call your profile picture a "Spring Sphere"?
#24

Jharii

Apr 11, 2011 11:13:41
Yeah. I did worse things has a kid. I remember to prove to the other kids that God didn't exist I insulted him out load and said: Look guys, he doesn't exist, no lightning stuck me. To be naive.

Heh.  He stopped with the immediate retribution millenia ago.  Now it's just some divine scorecard, so you're not out of the woods yet. 
#25

Someone

Apr 11, 2011 11:35:17
So they're saying I should be finding spring spheres hidden away in video games?

I'm just hoping this (the article or the event it covers) was an April fools joke.
#26

Maxperson

Apr 11, 2011 11:55:06
Yeah. I did worse things has a kid. I remember to prove to the other kids that God didn't exist I insulted him out load and said: Look guys, he doesn't exist, no lightning stuck me. To be naive.

Heh.  He stopped with the immediate retribution millenia ago.  Now it's just some divine scorecard, so you're not out of the woods yet. 



There is a loophole about Hell and Heaven. It is called Reincarnation!



:whistle: Delay of game penalty!
#27

zombie_babies

Apr 11, 2011 12:37:23
It wasn't so much a borrowing practice, as it was a conversion practice.  They took on the extra holidays to make the pagans more willing to convert to Christianity.



Yup.  Stolen and bastardized for the purposed of religious cleansing.  A wonderful example is the Celtic Cross.
#28

ADHadh

Apr 12, 2011 15:09:18
The tradition of Christmas tree started only as recently as 16th century, so I'm not sure if it really has pagan roots.
#29

Jharii

Apr 12, 2011 15:16:18
The tradition of Christmas tree started only as recently as 16th century, so I'm not sure if it really has pagan roots.

Yeah, being known as a "Christmas tree" started in the 15th/16th centure.  But it is referenced in the bible as something different, and as something to avoid.

From the Bible:
1 Hear what the Lord says to you , O house of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. 5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."

Even so, I am pretty sure there were pagans in the 15th and 16th century. 
#30

ADHadh

Apr 12, 2011 15:21:02
The tradition of Christmas tree started only as recently as 16th century, so I'm not sure if it really has pagan roots.

Yeah, being known as a "Christmas tree" started in the 15th/16th centure.  But it is referenced in the bible as something different, and as something to avoid.

From the Bible:
1 Hear what the Lord says to you , O house of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. 5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."

Even so, I am pretty sure there were pagans in the 15th and 16th century. 


Interesting... but wouldn't that refer to a different, Middle-Eastern custom? Passage number please?
And I thought the evergreen was supposed to replace the pagan oak.
#31

Jharii

Apr 12, 2011 15:25:15
Interesting... but wouldn't that refer to a different, Middle-Eastern custom? Passage number please?
And I thought the evergreen was supposed to replace the pagan oak.

Jeremiah 10.

I am not sure the origin of the custom has relevence (it may, it may not).  It was simply deemed a non-Christian custom.

I'm not cracking down on Christmas, mind you.  Just referencing that it has its origins in pagan customs.  And as everything else in the Bible, it's open to interpretation.  Some claim this simply references idol worship, others take it a little more literally.
#32

Jharii

Apr 12, 2011 15:33:34
Another reference is Isaiah 55:13.
Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign [that] shall not be cut off.

#33

ADHadh

Apr 12, 2011 15:36:50
So it was in pre-Christian scriptures... that rules out Celtic/Slavic/Gaul etc. customs brought in by Roman slaves I guess.
#34

Jharii

Apr 12, 2011 15:42:10
So it was in pre-Christian scriptures... that rules out Celtic/Slavic/Gaul etc. customs brought in by Roman slaves I guess.

Again, it's all interpretation.  I have a fairly strong belief that all religions are somehow intertwined.  So many principles and even more stories are too similar not to be.  That's why I believe that the events in the Bible occured, or at least some interpretation of the Bible's stories.

I don't even know if it matters to God which religion is followed, if any at all, as long as you strive to live a good life and He is acknowledged as the creator.

*shrug*

So I suppose that I am probably more of a deist than anything else.  If anything, that belief has taught me tolerance of all relegions, even non-religions.
#35

pluisjen

Apr 13, 2011 1:42:47
Even so, I am pretty sure there were pagans in the 15th and 16th century.



Better yet, there's still Pagans today.

So I suppose that I am probably more of a deist than anything else.  If anything, that belief has taught me tolerance of all relegions, even non-religions.



That puts you a step ahead of most Smile 
#42

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 11, 2011 0:41:58
Strange. I can't think of a title that would violate the CoC. Your mind is very twisted.


You're just not creative enough.
#43

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 11, 2011 1:02:32
Spring Balls?


Reported!!!
#44

ADHadh

Apr 11, 2011 1:27:48
But they're not spheres...
#45

iqwinn

Apr 11, 2011 1:39:56
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gFL7FBe_PA
#46

The_Silversword

Apr 11, 2011 2:22:07
I just dont get it at all, why cant they just call them Easter eggs like normal people? I realize its a religious holiday, and I guess theyre trying to be political correct or whatever, but really what do Easter eggs, candy, and the Easter Bunny have to do with Jesus or Passover? I guess I could sorta understand if they didnt want them called Jesus eggs or something, but I mean come one, Theyre freakin Easter eggs! Call them Easter Eggs!
#47

hawk52

Apr 11, 2011 2:44:40
I just dont get it at all, why cant they just call them Easter eggs like normal people? I realize its a religious holiday, and I guess theyre trying to be political correct or whatever, but really what do Easter eggs, candy, and the Easter Bunny have to do with Jesus or Passover? I guess I could sorta understand if they didnt want them called Jesus eggs or something, but I mean come one, Theyre freakin Easter eggs! Call them Easter Eggs!

The eggs symbolize rebirth or the resurrection of Jesus. The Easter bunny and candy are merely the commercializations such as Santa and the Christmas tree.
#48

pluisjen

Apr 11, 2011 4:35:04
Yeah they're overdoing it. As long as the easter eggs aren't accompanied by blessings and prayers and remembering the death of christ (I think it was death?) then there's nothing religious about them at all.
#49

Neutronium_Dragon

Apr 11, 2011 5:07:31
The tradition and symbolism of Easter eggs predates their adoption by Christianity, so they're not even religion-specific.
#50

Klirshon

Apr 11, 2011 6:16:45
This is atrocious; what kind of teacher would characterise an egg as a sphere? It is an ellipsoid.
If you're opting for a politically correct standard, use the proper terms.
#51

Robin_Hoodlum

Apr 11, 2011 6:22:05
Incredible.
People are offended by calling Easter Eggs, Easter Eggs... but yet will call a statue of the Virgin Mary covered in urine and feces "art"...

#52

pluisjen

Apr 11, 2011 6:34:10
You can call anything art these days, so I'm not surprised at all.

Perhaps the statue was about the art of trolling, though. That's a great art Undecided 
#53

Klirshon

Apr 11, 2011 6:47:24
I propose to blame this occurance on humans being too emotional.
#54

ViolenceJack

Apr 11, 2011 8:49:26

As some of you may have noticed, I have a much higher tolerance for this sort of thing than others. But this is indeed atrocious.


As pointed out, the egg and even the name Easter have origins that predate Christianity, the event of an Easter Egg hunt is now a secular affair with no mention of Jesus necessary, unless it takes place at a church. Bah. Humbug.

#55

Jharii

Apr 11, 2011 10:09:42
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.
#56

Mergad

Apr 11, 2011 10:13:54
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.



Jesus was adopted?

Well Then, Halloween is the only 100% Christian holiday in my book. And Mardi Gras.



Even Haloween has it's roots in pagan ways. I don't think christianity invented any of it's holydays, but adopted pagan ones. It happens with religions, they borrow from eachother.
#57

Jharii

Apr 11, 2011 10:18:49
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.



Jesus was adopted?

Well Then, Halloween is the only 100% Christian holiday in my book. And Mardi Gras.



Even Haloween has it's roots in pagan ways. I don't think christianity invented any of it's holydays, but adopted pagan ones. It happens with religions, they borrow from eachother.

Yeah, it was just good PR.  "Colorfully decorated trees?  We got that!"

#58

Maxperson

Apr 11, 2011 10:44:46
I just dont get it at all, why cant they just call them Easter eggs like normal people? I realize its a religious holiday, and I guess theyre trying to be political correct or whatever, but really what do Easter eggs, candy, and the Easter Bunny have to do with Jesus or Passover? I guess I could sorta understand if they didnt want them called Jesus eggs or something, but I mean come one, Theyre freakin Easter eggs! Call them Easter Eggs!

The eggs symbolize rebirth or the resurrection of Jesus. The Easter bunny and candy are merely the commercializations such as Santa and the Christmas tree.



Like Christmas, Easter is two different holidays.  A religious one, and a secular one.  There's nothing wrong with celebrating the secular versions in school.
#59

Maxperson

Apr 11, 2011 10:48:51
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.



Jesus was adopted?

Well Then, Halloween is the only 100% Christian holiday in my book. And Mardi Gras.



Halloween is also Pagan, sorry.  Good luck with Mardi Gras, though. ;)
#60

Maxperson

Apr 11, 2011 10:51:11
Wait... So Easter is a pagan holiday? Pffff, well that is dropped from my agenda. I am just glad at least Christmas and Halloween are 100% Christian.

Christmas was an adopted holiday as well.



Jesus was adopted?

Well Then, Halloween is the only 100% Christian holiday in my book. And Mardi Gras.



Even Haloween has it's roots in pagan ways. I don't think christianity invented any of it's holydays, but adopted pagan ones. It happens with religions, they borrow from eachother.



It wasn't so much a borrowing practice, as it was a conversion practice.  They took on the extra holidays to make the pagans more willing to convert to Christianity.
#61

boraxe

Apr 11, 2011 10:54:03
This thread should be titled "Some people need a good, solid kick in the spring spheres".

Not only are these frakking morons spreading more useless PC nonsense where none is required, they're also failing to teach children what a basic geometric shape! Someone there needs to be punched!
#62

Jharii

Apr 11, 2011 11:02:02
So are we disrespecting God when we indulge in these Golden Calf holidays?

Some would say yes.  Some would say no.  Some disrespect God in so many other ways that this would pale in comparison.

#63

Timmeh

Apr 11, 2011 11:11:29
Mean, Small-minded Potshot at Jharii (Don't get too mad, plz?): Should we call your profile picture a "Spring Sphere"?
#64

Jharii

Apr 11, 2011 11:13:41
Yeah. I did worse things has a kid. I remember to prove to the other kids that God didn't exist I insulted him out load and said: Look guys, he doesn't exist, no lightning stuck me. To be naive.

Heh.  He stopped with the immediate retribution millenia ago.  Now it's just some divine scorecard, so you're not out of the woods yet. 
#65

Someone

Apr 11, 2011 11:35:17
So they're saying I should be finding spring spheres hidden away in video games?

I'm just hoping this (the article or the event it covers) was an April fools joke.
#66

Maxperson

Apr 11, 2011 11:55:06
Yeah. I did worse things has a kid. I remember to prove to the other kids that God didn't exist I insulted him out load and said: Look guys, he doesn't exist, no lightning stuck me. To be naive.

Heh.  He stopped with the immediate retribution millenia ago.  Now it's just some divine scorecard, so you're not out of the woods yet. 



There is a loophole about Hell and Heaven. It is called Reincarnation!



:whistle: Delay of game penalty!
#67

zombie_babies

Apr 11, 2011 12:37:23
It wasn't so much a borrowing practice, as it was a conversion practice.  They took on the extra holidays to make the pagans more willing to convert to Christianity.



Yup.  Stolen and bastardized for the purposed of religious cleansing.  A wonderful example is the Celtic Cross.
#68

ADHadh

Apr 12, 2011 15:09:18
The tradition of Christmas tree started only as recently as 16th century, so I'm not sure if it really has pagan roots.
#69

Jharii

Apr 12, 2011 15:16:18
The tradition of Christmas tree started only as recently as 16th century, so I'm not sure if it really has pagan roots.

Yeah, being known as a "Christmas tree" started in the 15th/16th centure.  But it is referenced in the bible as something different, and as something to avoid.

From the Bible:
1 Hear what the Lord says to you , O house of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. 5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."

Even so, I am pretty sure there were pagans in the 15th and 16th century. 
#70

ADHadh

Apr 12, 2011 15:21:02
The tradition of Christmas tree started only as recently as 16th century, so I'm not sure if it really has pagan roots.

Yeah, being known as a "Christmas tree" started in the 15th/16th centure.  But it is referenced in the bible as something different, and as something to avoid.

From the Bible:
1 Hear what the Lord says to you , O house of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. 5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."

Even so, I am pretty sure there were pagans in the 15th and 16th century. 


Interesting... but wouldn't that refer to a different, Middle-Eastern custom? Passage number please?
And I thought the evergreen was supposed to replace the pagan oak.
#71

Jharii

Apr 12, 2011 15:25:15
Interesting... but wouldn't that refer to a different, Middle-Eastern custom? Passage number please?
And I thought the evergreen was supposed to replace the pagan oak.

Jeremiah 10.

I am not sure the origin of the custom has relevence (it may, it may not).  It was simply deemed a non-Christian custom.

I'm not cracking down on Christmas, mind you.  Just referencing that it has its origins in pagan customs.  And as everything else in the Bible, it's open to interpretation.  Some claim this simply references idol worship, others take it a little more literally.
#72

Jharii

Apr 12, 2011 15:33:34
Another reference is Isaiah 55:13.
Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign [that] shall not be cut off.

#73

ADHadh

Apr 12, 2011 15:36:50
So it was in pre-Christian scriptures... that rules out Celtic/Slavic/Gaul etc. customs brought in by Roman slaves I guess.
#74

Jharii

Apr 12, 2011 15:42:10
So it was in pre-Christian scriptures... that rules out Celtic/Slavic/Gaul etc. customs brought in by Roman slaves I guess.

Again, it's all interpretation.  I have a fairly strong belief that all religions are somehow intertwined.  So many principles and even more stories are too similar not to be.  That's why I believe that the events in the Bible occured, or at least some interpretation of the Bible's stories.

I don't even know if it matters to God which religion is followed, if any at all, as long as you strive to live a good life and He is acknowledged as the creator.

*shrug*

So I suppose that I am probably more of a deist than anything else.  If anything, that belief has taught me tolerance of all relegions, even non-religions.
#75

pluisjen

Apr 13, 2011 1:42:47
Even so, I am pretty sure there were pagans in the 15th and 16th century.



Better yet, there's still Pagans today.

So I suppose that I am probably more of a deist than anything else.  If anything, that belief has taught me tolerance of all relegions, even non-religions.



That puts you a step ahead of most Smile