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#1 voswaorg Jul 20, 2013 12:39:10	I finaly found a reason to finaly create a forum profile! Yeah thats my cat.
#2 jetshield Jul 20, 2013 12:49:16	I finaly found a reason to finaly create a forum profile! And the first thing you do is wander into the Tavern. You poor lost soul. P.S. You should probably tell him/her that opening the book and reading it works better than trying to learn through osmosis.
#3 draco1119 Jul 20, 2013 12:49:56	I thought you said the cat was on a D&D picture? I am disappoint.
#4 voswaorg Jul 20, 2013 14:01:13	It is a dnd picture, the cats holding the players handbook. :D
#5 draco1119 Jul 20, 2013 15:03:53	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book. It looks to be the PHB for some other game.
#6 jetshield Jul 20, 2013 15:11:59	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book.
#7 Cluless_Rat Jul 20, 2013 15:53:29	The cat seems fat. You feed him too much. You know they tell you the quatity cats need on the bag. And please tell me you do not buy hte cheap stuff at the groery store or the drug store.
#8 voswaorg Jul 20, 2013 17:10:05	He just looks fat, its the fur.
#9 Cluless_Rat Jul 20, 2013 17:11:55	He just looks fat, its the fur. This why you bought your GF a fur coat? Oops. You have no GF.   No mention of where you get your cat food? That says a lot about you and yoru financial situation...
#10 The_Silversword Jul 21, 2013 0:59:29	Youre all a sad, sad lot. Someone could have easily said something along the lines of, Finally a use for the 4e Player's Handbook! But the best you guys can come up with is a lame osmosis joke!?
#11 draco1119 Jul 21, 2013 1:37:56	Well, I DID point out that the cat was not, in fact, laying on a D&D book.
#12 The_Silversword Jul 21, 2013 1:41:49	The osmosis thing was funnier, the "not D&D" thing has already been done to death.
#13 draco1119 Jul 21, 2013 2:01:59	Maybe so, bug I still got a , so
#14 The_Silversword Jul 21, 2013 2:30:46	Jeeze, is that all it takes to make you happy? be careful with it, im not sure where all that thumbs been.
#15 Klirshon Jul 21, 2013 5:24:34	Lies, you know exactly where that "thumb" has been. It came from Onesite.
#16 ADHadh Jul 21, 2013 6:56:18	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book. It looks to be the PHB for some other game. Yep, a superior one.
#17 homicidal_squirrel Jul 21, 2013 13:53:24	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book. It looks to be the PHB for some other game. Yep, a superior terrible one. You spelled terrible wrong. Fortunately for you I'm a nice guy and I fixed it for you.
#18 ADHadh Jul 21, 2013 18:42:09	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book. It looks to be the PHB for some other game. Yep, a superior terrible one. You spelled terrible wrong. Fortunately for you I'm a nice guy and I fixed it for you.  A superior terrible game, sure. Still bad, still better
#19 Robin_Hoodlum Jul 21, 2013 19:08:37	It is a dnd picture, the cats holding the players handbook. :D Correction brainiac... the cats sleeping on the D&D book. I don't like cats or D&D. I would burn them both.
#20 zombie_babies Jul 22, 2013 8:59:02	I finaly found a reason to finaly create a forum profile! Yeah thats my cat. You know that book makes a better litter box liner than bed, right?
#21 Robin_Hoodlum Jul 22, 2013 21:29:27	I finaly found a reason to finaly create a forum profile! Yeah thats my cat. You know that book makes a better litter box liner than bed, right?
#22 gareson Jul 22, 2013 23:07:12	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book. It looks to be the PHB for some other game. Yep, a superior one. This.  I think it is worn out caused it pooped on classic D&D Monster Manual, tore up a 3rd ed. DM Guide and now it is dreaming about the superior gameplay of 4e.  Sleep well, kitty.  (Hopefully it won't suffer a nightmare with visions of D&D: Next).
#23 jetshield Jul 22, 2013 23:20:17	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book. It looks to be the PHB for some other game. Yep, a superior one. This.  I think it is worn out caused it pooped on classic D&D Monster Manual, tore up a 3rd ed. DM Guide and now it is dreaming about the superior gameplay of 4e.  Sleep well, kitty.  (Hopefully it won't suffer a nightmare with visions of D&D: Next).  There might be something to this. We all know that kiddies like 4e (and ripping paper).
#24 The_Silversword Jul 23, 2013 2:09:58	I finaly found a reason to finaly create a forum profile! Yeah thats my cat. You know that book makes a better litter box liner than bed, right? Thats actually pretty good.
#25 zombie_babies Jul 23, 2013 8:22:50	Thats actually pretty good. Yep.    Yanno why?  Cuz it's da truf.  ;)
#26 zombie_babies Jul 23, 2013 8:23:47	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book. It looks to be the PHB for some other game. Yep, a superior one. This.  I think it is worn out caused it pooped on classic D&D Monster Manual, tore up a 3rd ed. DM Guide and now it is dreaming about the superior gameplay of 4e.  Sleep well, kitty.  (Hopefully it won't suffer a nightmare with visions of D&D: Next).  I sorta feel what the cat is vibin'.  Like, 4e almost put me to sleep every time I played it.
#27 CorranHornIsAwesome Jul 23, 2013 8:25:14	I thought you said the cat was on a D&D picture? I am disappoint. For OTTers, you guys have a really long-running butthurt.
#28 draco1119 Jul 23, 2013 9:31:59	Seriously - in this case it's justified. Not so much because of 4e itself, but because of what happened to the forums right around that time. There was the Gleemax experiment; there was 4e (which NOBODY talked about beforehand, unlike DDN); there were multiple firings of popular mods; and, best of all, there was all the baiting, flaming, trolling, and personal attacks - by WotC's own head of the forums! So, yeah, this 4e hatred extends far beyond 4e.
#29 CorranHornIsAwesome Jul 23, 2013 9:39:18	Seriously - in this case it's justified. Not so much because of 4e itself, but because of what happened to the forums right around that time. There was the Gleemax experiment; there was 4e (which NOBODY talked about beforehand, unlike DDN); there were multiple firings of popular mods; and, best of all, there was all the baiting, flaming, trolling, and personal attacks - by WotC's own head of the forums! So, yeah, this 4e hatred extends far beyond 4e. I can understand where you're coming from, but it's ridiculous to take that out on 4e and its current fans. It's like a little kid who hates his new stepmother because he was scarred by his biological parents' divorce.
#30 draco1119 Jul 23, 2013 9:59:17	No, it's more like the kid who beats up his stepbrother on the daily because his stepmother beat him to the point of hospitalization five years ago.
#31 CorranHornIsAwesome Jul 23, 2013 10:01:30	No, it's more like the kid who beats up his stepbrother on the daily because his stepmother beat him to the point of hospitalization five years ago. Okay...still not seeming like a good thing to do...
#32 Robin_Hoodlum Jul 23, 2013 10:06:20	No, it's more like the kid who beats up his stepbrother on the daily because his stepmother beat him to the point of hospitalization five years ago. Okay...still not seeming like a good thing to do... Why not? Some people deserve a good beating.
#33 draco1119 Jul 23, 2013 10:12:14	Hey, I never said it was good - or even rational. All I said I'd that its not unjustified.
#34 CorranHornIsAwesome Jul 23, 2013 10:12:54	Fair enough.
#35 jetshield Jul 23, 2013 11:15:08	Besides, 4e sucks. Of course, the last edition I was excited about was 2e so not many around these forums consider my opinion important. You youngsters have no respect for your elders.
#36 The_Silversword Jul 23, 2013 13:41:48	You was excited about 2e? I remember looking at it saying, "UH guys this looks pretty much the same". I said the same thing about 3.5! Nobody ever listens to me.
#37 jetshield Jul 23, 2013 15:31:19	I was excited because, at the time 2e released, it was definitely time to replace my abused books, and the new edition gave me a perfect excuse to do it. I was young(er) and even more broke than I am now, so I really needed a justification (in my own mind, at least) to spend money I really should have used for something else. The fact that the changes to the system were minor was a bonus. I hate 4e not because it's a bad game (I only played it once so I admit I can't say if the system is actually bad), but because it's not my D&D. It's so far removed from what D&D is to me, that it doesn't classify as the same game, and, therefore, doesn't deserve the D&D name. One of these days I might take a look at DDN and see if it's as far from D&D as 4e was.
#38 homicidal_squirrel Jul 23, 2013 15:35:39	Yeah, but that's not a D&D book. It looks to be the PHB for some other game. Yep, a superior one. This.  I think it is worn out caused it pooped on classic D&D Monster Manual, tore up a 3rd ed. DM Guide and now it is dreaming about the superior gameplay of 4e.  Sleep well, kitty.  (Hopefully it won't suffer a nightmare with visions of D&D: Next).  I sorta feel what the cat is vibin'.  Like, 4e almost put me to sleep every time I played it. You managed to play it before it put you to sleep? I tried to read the books once. I fell asleep before getting through the first page. In fact, I'm starting to fall asleep just talking about it.
#39 ADHadh Jul 23, 2013 15:48:11	You was excited about 2e? I remember looking at it saying, "UH guys this looks pretty much the same". I said the same thing about 3.5! Nobody ever listens to me. Funny, 'cause 3.x was the version most removed from a previous edition to date, not counting that whole D&DNext thing, which is shaping up to be a steaming pile. I wish WotC stuck to it's guns with 4e instead of changing it's design policy halfway through and abandoning it now. Also, I don't get how information about structural integrity of stone walls, NPC classes or strict rules about number of controlled minions by Hit Dice are more exciting than a more narrative, gamist approach. Oh, yeah, I do, "all classes are teh same", "it's an MMO", "not muh D&D"
#40 zombie_babies Jul 23, 2013 16:08:46	All classes pretty much are the same.  Other than Essentials and Psionics they all run on AEDU, they all get Feats at the same time, they all get Powers at the same time, they all get the same kind of Powers at the same time, etc.  That's ... well, it's the same if you're intellectually honest.
#41 halitosis Jul 23, 2013 18:28:24	4E? What's that?
#42 homicidal_squirrel Jul 23, 2013 18:39:21	4E? What's that? A type of cancer.
#43 halitosis Jul 23, 2013 18:40:14	4E? What's that? A type of cancer.  Oh my!
#44 draco1119 Jul 23, 2013 19:15:33	Yup. Stage 4e brain cancer makes you think you're having fun when, in reality, you're drooling and staring blankly into space. There seem to have been quite a few cases popping up in the last five years or so. Thus far, research has not produced a cure (though they think they may have discovered it on the DDN gene!), but they have been able to regress it back to Stage 3.5. That eliminates the drooling and blank stare, but still retains the "fun". Was this Wiki article helpful?
#45 captain_oblivious Jul 23, 2013 19:32:14	I know that was not a wiki article because no one has edited the word 'poop' into it.
#46 CorranHornIsAwesome Jul 23, 2013 20:23:13	Yup. Stage 4e brain cancer makes you think you're having fun when, in reality, you're drooling and staring blankly into space. There seem to have been quite a few cases popping up in the last five years or so. Thus far, research has not produced a cure (though they think they may have discovered it on the DDN gene!), but they have been able to regress it back to Stage 3.5. That eliminates the drooling and blank stare, but still retains the "fun". Was this Wiki article helpful? Didn't you say you're going to play 4e again?
#47 draco1119 Jul 23, 2013 21:50:04	No, I said I would probably have to. Bad D&D is better than 4e, but 4e is still better than no RPG.
#48 homicidal_squirrel Jul 23, 2013 22:29:35	No, I said I would probably have to. Bad D&D is better than 4e, but 4e is still better than no RPG. Why don't you drink some PBR while you're playing?
#49 draco1119 Jul 24, 2013 0:45:02	I'd have to, just to be able to compare 4e favorably to something!
#50 zombie_babies Jul 24, 2013 8:06:28	No, I said I would probably have to. Bad D&D is better than 4e, but 4e is still better than no RPG. That's really not true.  We thought so for a time and we played that whatever for quite a while.  Eventually we'd bring all our stuff over and try to get started only to end up BSing and watching youtube videos (hickock45, fateofdestinee, fpsrussia, etc) the whole time.  Much better than 4e.
#51 The_Silversword Jul 24, 2013 12:44:08	I was excited because, at the time 2e released, it was definitely time to replace my abused books, and the new edition gave me a perfect excuse to do it. I was young(er) and even more broke than I am now, so I really needed a justification (in my own mind, at least) to spend money I really should have used for something else. The fact that the changes to the system were minor was a bonus. I hate 4e not because it's a bad game (I only played it once so I admit I can't say if the system is actually bad), but because it's not my D&D. It's so far removed from what D&D is to me, that it doesn't classify as the same game, and, therefore, doesn't deserve the D&D name. One of these days I might take a look at DDN and see if it's as far from D&D as 4e was. Yeah, that was the main reason that I got the 2e books as well, My 1e books had pretty much had it, that and the art looked alot nicer.  And one of the main reasons that I like 4e is its not 3.5! And yeah DDN is pretty lame, theyre really not bringing anything new to the game.