Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 gamileo Jun 04, 2008 19:23:22	I think we should have a favorite Grognard. I nominate Hellmute, even though he dislikes 3E and 4E, he still is respectful and joins in the conversations. Good job!!
#2 holy_beholder Jun 05, 2008 10:35:39	Accidental Double Post. I have never done this before.
#3 holy_beholder Jun 05, 2008 10:35:58	Seconded. Also I preemptively un-nominate Psionx and AriaSilverhands
#4 the_ubbergeek Jun 05, 2008 11:54:14	I think we should have a favorite Grognard. I nominate Hellmute, even though he dislikes 3E and 4E, he still is respectful and joins in the conversations. Good job!! There is much nicer grognards around there.
#5 gamileo Jun 05, 2008 12:47:55	Well then you nominate one, I have come to respect hellmute.
#6 arderkrag Jun 05, 2008 15:14:44	Well then you nominate one, I have come to respect hellmute. Seconded. I can at least have a civil conversation with him.
#7 farmer42_dup Jun 06, 2008 22:20:49	Seconded. I can at least have a civil conversation with him. He also is willing to give change a shake. He's civil, he'll describe what he doesn't and does like, and, as I said, he's willing to give it a shake.
#8 quiterjon_dup Jun 07, 2008 9:42:27	Then most of you didn't read the Excerpt:Minions thread. Unless that's your idea of civil and willing to give it a shake.
#9 holy_beholder Jun 07, 2008 22:36:24	That thread had spiraled out of control. I set about half the people on it to ignore, then most of them got removed after I took a look at what they said on other threads.
#10 unfamiliar Jun 08, 2008 16:30:41	If he's actually respectful in his arguments & has good points to add to any critical discussion of 4e other than something like "Dr4g0nb00bz SuXXorz!" then I guess he's got my vote, too. Keep enjoying whatever edition you love & don't ever stop playing, Hellmute.
#11 jwt Jun 11, 2008 8:28:00	I think we should have a favorite Troll. I nominate Hellmute, even though he dislikes 3E and 4E, he still posts incessantly on those boards just to be difficult and butts in the conversations. Good job!! There. Fixed it for you.
#12 unfamiliar Jun 11, 2008 11:18:17	There. Fixed it for you. I'm gonna need some kinda +5 vorpal sword just to cut through all that irony.
#13 jwt Jun 12, 2008 12:49:57	I'm gonna need some kinda +5 vorpal sword just to cut through all that irony. Yeah there is irony in there too...... I'll cop to it. But you gotta admit that remaining on-topic in the off-topic tavern is a leeetle different than posting about how much fail there is in 4th ed in the 4th ed boards. All this before 4th Ed was released, and full of faulty logic based on poor assumptions on Hellmute's part. For my part, I am merely refuting the OPs point. For me, Hellmute is the Grognard version of the Kool-aid drinking Alyri. If you need a paragon Grognard check out JustinA, who is civil, constructive, and helpful - even though I don't always agree with him.
#14 nowiwantmydmg Jun 12, 2008 13:44:17	I nominate..............Gary Gygax.
#15 ADHadh Jun 12, 2008 16:11:26	I nominate..............Gary Gygax. How does one react to that?
#16 hellmute Jun 19, 2008 3:41:31	I drank what?
#17 farmer42_dup Jun 19, 2008 6:01:16	I drank what? Well, it involves tachyons, coal, a plastic straw, a chicken, a box of... You know what, it's probably better if you don't think about it too hard, and just sort of roll with things.
#18 leshracnuker Jun 19, 2008 14:19:36	How come I haven't been nominated yet? I'm combative and flavorful...?
#19 thecasualoblivion Jun 19, 2008 22:58:34	I actually have to agree with this. Hellmute, while firmly taking the stance of being against the current edition, does make an effort to be a part of the community as opposed to merely whining or antagonizing people who like the game. He has even taken it upon himself to begin and manage the sticky thread for official and fan made character sheets, despite disliking the game and, forgive me if I am misquoting him, having no plans on playing it.