I've been bamboozled!

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#1

redblue

Jan 16, 2009 11:47:54
Here's the deal. I went to St. Louis to see the arch and go to Six Flags with my family. The day we were supposed to go to Six Flags there was a big storm and Six Flags was closed. My dad felt really bad and took me to the mall and gave me $50 to buy things. Of course I went straight to the hobby shop.

At the hobby shop I bought a bunch of cheap miniatures, and looked around the place. I stumbled upon quite a treasure, a Chessex $20 26X26 vinyl game grid. I bought it right away and the lady at the register told me, "Only dry-erase markers work on this, DO NOT use wet-erase markers, they will stain it and won't come off." (For those of you with these boards your probably already chuckling.)

The next day we still have nothing to do so we head to OfficeMax to get some dry-erase markers. I buy a $10 set and an eraser. When we get back to the hotel I obviously want to try out the grid so I make a mark and use the eraser. It won't come off! I scrub and scrub with soap, water, you name it and when i'm done it's not much better. Thank god I only made a one inch mark. We decide that we are going to go back to the store and ask what the deal is before heading home.

The next day at about 10 A.M. we leave the hotel and go to the mall, but when we get there the mall doesn't open for another hour and since we are on a time constraint to get home we leave. Later I check online and the product description says, "Only use wet-erase, dry-erase will stain."

It's good to vent.
#2

Joseph_Silver

Jan 16, 2009 12:25:16
/Schadenfreude

*Points and laughs at the OP*

That sucks, though.
#3

Alas

Jan 16, 2009 12:31:50
All may not be lost-- try some internet suggested remedies.
#4

akodoreign

Jan 16, 2009 13:28:33
Here's the deal. I went to St. Louis to see the arch and go to Six Flags with my family. The day we were supposed to go to Six Flags there was a big storm and Six Flags was closed. My dad felt really bad and took me to the mall and gave me $50 to buy things. Of course I went straight to the hobby shop.

At the hobby shop I bought a bunch of cheap miniatures, and looked around the place. I stumbled upon quite a treasure, a Chessex $20 26X26 vinyl game grid. I bought it right away and the lady at the register told me, "Only dry-erase markers work on this, DO NOT use wet-erase markers, they will stain it and won't come off." (For those of you with these boards your probably already chuckling.)

The next day we still have nothing to do so we head to OfficeMax to get some dry-erase markers. I buy a $10 set and an eraser. When we get back to the hotel I obviously want to try out the grid so I make a mark and use the eraser. It won't come off! I scrub and scrub with soap, water, you name it and when i'm done it's not much better. Thank god I only made a one inch mark. We decide that we are going to go back to the store and ask what the deal is before heading home.

The next day at about 10 A.M. we leave the hotel and go to the mall, but when we get there the mall doesn't open for another hour and since we are on a time constraint to get home we leave. Later I check online and the product description says, "Only use wet-erase, dry-erase will stain."

It's good to vent.

2x bamboozled. I have season passes every year for me and the fam at that Six Flags. They don't close (only during winter and only then well into November). They just don't run some of the rides when it storms.
#5

enhenry

Jan 16, 2009 13:39:54
1. One home remedy: Mark over it with a wet-erase marker heavily, then wipe off the wet-erase. Repeat this a few times, as the wet-erase fluid bonds with the dry-erase and will lift the stain, though it may not do it completely.

2. One I've used personally, and I know it works first-hand, is transmission fluid (dexron-mercon). WARNING: THIS WILL remove the dry-erase, but it ALSO removes some of the tinting product used to give mats that "old parchment" look. Someone drew a whole 20 x 20 room with details on mine by accident, and the transmission fluid worked VERy well, much better than cleanser, alcohol, and a number of other home rememdies I tried.

Sorry to hear it, and good luck!
#6

zombie_babies

Jan 16, 2009 13:52:56
That sucks. But there is hope!

One time when I was DMing, I accidentally picked up a permanent marker and drew out a river bank. Don't ask me why there was a permanent marker with the erasable ones or why it looked exactly like the non-permanent ones, cuz I don't know. ;) Anywhoo, it took me a bit to realize what I'd done. We thought the mat ruined, but we came up with a deperation plan. We used Shout. The stuff that takes stains out of clothes. And, it worked. At first, there were still some faint lines, but after a while the whole thing cleaned up nicely. So, if all else fails, give it a try. It worked for this gamer. :D
#7

nowiwantmydmg

Jan 16, 2009 13:54:46
A product called Goof-Off is very good at removing stains and all sorts of things, it may remove some detail from your mat if you're not careful though.
#8

congzilla

Jan 16, 2009 14:52:28
2x bamboozled. I have season passes every year for me and the fam at that Six Flags. They don't close (only during winter and only then well into November). They just don't run some of the rides when it storms.

Same difference really :P
#9

tusz

Jan 16, 2009 14:53:03
I had the exact same problem. Fortunately for me, I just tried the markers on the edge to make sure it would come off easy (it didn't). I'm going to be trying the remedies you guys have suggested, though.
#10

celloshane

Jan 16, 2009 15:54:27
You might try these two links:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/75156-removing-pen-line-stains-chessex-mat.html

http://forum.rpg.net/archive/index.php/t-183207.html

Major bummer about 6Flags StL. That park is a ton of fun even in the rain.
#11

Forgember

Jan 16, 2009 16:08:13
That sucks. But there is hope!

One time when I was DMing, I accidentally picked up a permanent marker and drew out a river bank. Don't ask me why there was a permanent marker with the erasable ones or why it looked exactly like the non-permanent ones, cuz I don't know. ;) Anywhoo, it took me a bit to realize what I'd done. We thought the mat ruined, but we came up with a deperation plan. We used Shout. The stuff that takes stains out of clothes. And, it worked. At first, there were still some faint lines, but after a while the whole thing cleaned up nicely. So, if all else fails, give it a try. It worked for this gamer. :D

I think it got tossed in with the erasable markers after Sal used it to color that Lion mini black and yeah they did look similar. The look on your face when you found out was priceless though , good times.
#12

zombie_babies

Jan 16, 2009 16:13:42
I think it got tossed in with the erasable markers after Sal used it to color that Lion mini black and yeah they did look similar. The look on your face when you found out was priceless though , good times.

That stupid bastard. :D
#13

stormonu

Jan 16, 2009 22:56:19
I've "ruined" two good mats with the same stunt. I found that the Mr. Clean Magic Erasers will remove about 90% of the stain, but it also takes off the grid lines (though you can draw them back in with a ruler and a fine tip felt pen).
#14

SoulCatcher78

Jan 17, 2009 6:37:29
Goo-gone. Removes even permanent marker (sharpie) from plastic surfaces. It'll smell like oranges for a while but it works.
#15

terronus

Jan 18, 2009 13:00:10
Well, you've got lots of good advice, but here is another for people with similar problems or that use chessex map regularly:

Any sorts of these heavy cleaners will eventually start to wear down the finish of the map if used too much.

I first bought a big chessex map and instead of just a good old washcloth would regularly wipe it clean with 409 and Mr. Clean Eraser. After just a few short months the wet erase wouldn't come up well, and the face of the grid looked like a giant ink smudge.

So I ruined mine by going the opposite direction :P.
#16

pigknight

Jan 18, 2009 13:17:04
Goo-gone. Removes even permanent marker (sharpie) from plastic surfaces. It'll smell like oranges for a while but it works.

You're saying that as if that was a bad thing. :P
#17

goblin_pride

Jan 18, 2009 20:13:09
Windex sometimes works, but it bleaches away a bit of the color. Not so much that most people notice, but if you do it often enough....