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| #1zombie_babiesJan 07, 2011 13:46:21 | Link A lot of these would really irritate me. |
| #2Robin_HoodlumJan 07, 2011 13:49:05 | I would have to ask what those questions have to do with the position I am applying for... as I walk out the door. |
| #3pluisjenJan 07, 2011 14:04:18 | Some of these are basic math questions that would not actually be that misplaced for people with an engineering position as they will be required to solve hundreds of them each month. Others are complete and utter baloney. |
| #4zombie_babiesJan 07, 2011 14:07:08 | Yeah, the math ones I kinda understand. Some of the other stuff? Hell, the pizza shop one would have likely cost me the position. I'd have answered honestly - I'd sell it. I don't have the time or requisite experience required to handle a pizza shop. I could use the cash, though. So they'd have taken that to mean that I'd pass on inherited jobs at the office which is a wholly different matter. So yeah, **** that sorta question. |
| #5pluisjenJan 07, 2011 14:12:46 | Yep. They're too far away from what the interviewers want to know to be really useful. They'd be better off just asking what they want to know. Some may also be copied carelessly by dumb interviewers before ending up here though. Like the math examples; they make sense to ask of a new developer, but if HR thinks "well it works for developers" and then asks the same question to the new secretary, it's going to end up on this list. I mean I can even picture "What happened in this country the last 10 years?" to be asked of a reporter... but that's one of the few professions that need to know about that. At best it can help you to not hire people who are not very interested in current affairs, which might be useful if the rest of the company loves nothing better then arguing about the latest news, but other then that. |
| #6EscherEnigmaJan 07, 2011 14:44:14 | Eh. Some of the questions seem a bit odd, but I imagine there was sense to each question in the context where it was asked. I mean, even the pencil/blender question. It's an absurd example, but it's about problem solving skills in an unfamiliar environment. Question 23? It's not about the answer (214 miles, I think) it's to see if you try to solve it by solving the infinite series or if you stop and think and realize you only need to figure out how long before the trains meet, and then see how far the bird goes in that time. Heck, some might not even be about job skills, but just to see if the person is a good match for the work environment. I mean, when you're interviewing someone, you're not just looking to see if they can do the work, but if they'll mesh well with the workplace, y'know? So eh. Yeah, they're strange questions, but I can easily imagine a context where they're reasonable. |
| #7zombie_babiesJan 07, 2011 14:53:00 | Meh, I'm more for the direct approach. Ask me what you want to know. Most questions like these aren't posed by HR people - they're posed by the hiring manager. That means somebody that likely doesn't have a degree in psychology/sociology. So why the deep questions? Meh, I'm a stubborn old coot that way. I'm lookin' for a job. Don't play stupid ****ing games with me. |
| #8EscherEnigmaJan 07, 2011 15:21:11 | ... what "deep questions"? |
| #9KlirshonJan 07, 2011 23:04:25 | What does the philosophy of martial arts have to do with a supplemental insurance company? On a different note: I once applied online for an occupation (for a company I won't name). After I was presented the question, "how many politicians do you think are liars", and was given an incomplete set of percentages for answers, I terminated the application. |
| #10iqwinnJan 09, 2011 19:15:14 | "how many politicians do you think are liars" My response would have been, "Damn near all of them, especially the ones who claim to never lie." |
| #11iqwinnJan 09, 2011 19:31:46 | 9. You have a birthday cake and have exactly three slices to cut it into eight equal pieces. How do you do it? (Reportedly from Blackrock Portfolio Management (NYSE: BLK - News)) First you cut the cake in half along the side, making an upper and lower half. Then leaving the top and bottom in place, you slice downward as if to make quarter slices (hope that makes sense). |
| #12bone_nagaJan 09, 2011 20:55:29 | They're probably just to gauge the person's reaction when confronted with something completely unexpected. When sitting in front of a leadership board I got asked "If you could be any type of flower, what type of flower would you be?" Everyone else competing got asked that same question. We were later told it was because the board members were tired of people walking in and just regurgitating a bunch of stuff they had memorized out of various manuals and regulations. They wanted to make people think and react when put on the spot. |
| #13zombie_babiesJan 10, 2011 13:54:15 | ... what "deep questions"? By 'deep' I meant questions that don't ask directly what it is they're asking. Outside of those trained to understand questions of that nature, I don't trust the interpretation of the answer. I should have said 'indirect' or something. 'Layered' maybe, I dunno. |
| #14EscherEnigmaJan 10, 2011 14:02:25 | Eh. I'd say an indirect question about your problem-solving skills is probably better then just saying to someone "So, tell me how awesome your problem-solving skills are." |
| #15zombie_babiesJan 10, 2011 14:29:41 | Yeah, I get that. Sometimes direct is the only way to go, though. Like that stupid pizza shop question. I'd have been bounced cuz I'd have sold the shop. Without them asking the context of my decision (unlikely since there was a specific goal to the question), they'd have assumed I'd pass on helping with the workload of others. Maybe I just have a problem with terribly constructed questions. |
| #16EscherEnigmaJan 10, 2011 14:59:44 | Eh. That's nothing specific to these questions though. When we were interviewing for my boss we ended up directing people towards telling us what we wanted to know, even if their first reading of the question was different from out intentions. Same happened when I was being interviewed a few months ago. So I doubt that, unless the interviewers are idiots, that they would hold your "I would sell it" against you. They would either try to clarify the question or ask a different one to get the same information. Unless they were idiots. But in that case that you weren't wearing shoes with the right foot print might set them off. |
| #17zombie_babiesJan 10, 2011 15:10:23 | I just think that if it's some psychological examination you're trying to conduct, everyone involved would be better served if you knew what the hell you were doing. Most hiring managers aren't gonna know enough to pull that stuff off, IMO. And a lot of people are idiots. And a lot of idiots try to use the trendy stuff cuz they don't think they are idiots. Kinda the hallmark of the idiot, actually. Thinking you can do something when you can't. |
| #18EscherEnigmaJan 10, 2011 16:01:15 | I just think that if it's some psychological examination you're trying to conduct [...] And I'd disagree that's what's going on in the majority of cases. |
| #19zombie_babiesJan 10, 2011 16:15:12 | It is on some level. It's at least a psychological technique. |
| #20EscherEnigmaJan 10, 2011 16:49:29 | ... sure, but what isn't a "psychological technique"? I mean hell, the basic structure of an interview could be described as such. |
| #21homicidal_squirrelJan 10, 2011 19:21:56 | There are industrial/organizational psychologist that work creating and evaluating interview questions like these. They are also some of the highest earners in psychology. |
| #22dirtyfrankJan 11, 2011 1:14:33 | A few of the questions seemed flat dumb. Many of the questions seemed like basic reasoning and thought type questions. Even some of the dumb ones seemed to require some amount of reasoning. I remember talking to a physics student peer whom works for IT and had once hired a guy. The question which was the decider for the job was something similar to many of these. Well probably closest to question 13. If i remember it correctly it was something like this. You have 3 cards in front of you. One has stripes on its back, one is a Queen and the third is a Jack. You are now told that all Queens have a striped back. Which one card would you flip to prove the statement? So anyways the 1 guy who got it right was hired and the dude says that the person has been an excellent worker. And I think that is kind of what these kind of questions are supposed to do. They aren't every day questions nor questions we'd expect. They take us out of our comfort zone and ask us to reason something out or maybe even think outside the box rather than say depending on others or only going by what we were taught. Some of these aren't even hard they just take a little bit of thought. For instance 10. Given the numbers 1 to 1000, what is the minimum number of guesses needed to find a specific number if you are given the hint "higher" or "lower" for each guess you make? (Reportedly from Facebook) Just keep halving it. Keep doing it until you get something that is roughly 1. 1000/2 = 500 1000/2^2 = 250 1000/2^3 = 125 (after this is starts getting tricky to do in head so might be better to round) 1000/2^4 = 62.5 (62 if we round 125 to 124) 1000/2^5 = 31.25 (31) 1000/2^6 = 15.625 (15) 1000/2^7 = 7.8... (7) 1000/2^8 = 3.9... (3) 1000/2^9 = 1.9... (1) 1000/2^10 = 0.9.. (.5) Or if you are used to stuff like computer science or binary you can just remember that 2^10 is 1,024 and 1,000/1,024 = 1 for the most part. So you need at least 10 guesses. Well probably doable in 9 because after guess 4 there is now not really any exact center. and esp as seeing as how 1000/2^9 is so close to 1. But i personally would still go with 10 as my guess but I'm sure if you can reason out 9 fairly quickly and via rounding in your head the interviewer might like that as well. Anyways I don't think I'd be worried about too many of these. Many of these seem kinda like questions that might be seen on a general GRE or even physics related but similar kind of questions on the physics GRE and them are tests I have to take if i wish to pursue a PHD in physics so i personally ain't going to worry about interview questions like this. |
| #23QubeJan 11, 2011 6:02:54 | 10. Given the numbers 1 to 1000, what is the minimum number of guesses needed to find a specific number if you are given the hint "higher" or "lower" for each guess you make? (Reportedly from Facebook) Minimum? 1. If you guess it right the first time. (There's only a low chance for that, but chance is irrelevant to calculate 'minimum') 10 is not the minimum, but the lowest maximum |
| #24pluisjenJan 11, 2011 6:07:56 | Which one card would you flip to prove the statement? You'd flip over the Queen to prove that all Queens in that set of 3 cards have striped backs... but that doesn't prove that all of them do, obviously, just the one or two Queens in front of you. Or am I doing something really silly? The question seems so simple that I'm wondering how people get it wrong... which might mean that I'm doing it wrong myself and am falling into the same trap all those other people did. |
| #25jesse.two.coinsJan 11, 2011 6:29:13 | Which one card would you flip to prove the statement? lmao no, you're correct haha |
| #26zombie_babiesJan 11, 2011 9:06:31 | There are industrial/organizational psychologist that work creating and evaluating interview questions like these. They are also some of the highest earners in psychology. That's kinda my point. The hiring manager isn't an industrial/organizational psychologist (in most cases). They likely don't really know how to properly assess an answer. |
| #27homicidal_squirrelJan 11, 2011 9:18:14 | Most of the time the I/O psychologist just gives training to these managers. Sometimes, depending on the position, the I/O psychologist may be part of the interviewing team. They also do a bunch of other stuff. If you saw the movie "Office Space," the 2 guys that went in to evaluate everyone's job performance did some of the stuff a typical I/O psychologist would do. |
| #28zombie_babiesJan 11, 2011 9:24:17 | Wow, if it's like Office Space, those guys are ****tarded. Seriously, though, what kind of training can they really do? How long did they go to school for? How can they possibly instill enough of that into their students in a seminar? I mean, I just don't trust it. You can't pick up brain surgery at a weekend clinic. Certain things are truly specialized and that needs to be kept in mind. Were they part of the interview team (something I've never seen but do not doubt happens) then it's all good, though. |
| #29homicidal_squirrelJan 11, 2011 9:40:52 | Most I/O psychologist have a Master degree in I/O psychology. Some may have a PhD. Most of the training they give managers is in how to use the various interviewing tools that the I/O psychologist have developed for the company. For example, some of these interview questions seem pretty ridiculous, but they serve a purpose. A lot of them have to do with problem solving skills in certain situations. If you were a pencil stuck in a blender, how would you get out? That is a question that lets the interviewer see the problem solving ideas a job candidate may have. I would assume that it helps the interviewer see the creativity used to solve new and unusual problems. depending on the job, this may be a highly sought skill. The question about how many politicians lie can have several applications. Imagine you are running a company and you are hiring for a position that requires the employee to interact with members of one political party or another. The person may have to do some minor lobbying for the company in order to help get some favorable legislation passed or something. The last thing you want is your employee hating politicians because they are liars and this coming off in his attitude when dealing with politician and their staff. One of the things that I/O psychologist do is develop a list of key words that may be looked upon as favorable or unfavorable when used in a response. They just have to train the manager to know what to look for. "If a applicant says this word as part of his response, it is good. If he says this other word, it is bad." They also do a lot of work in job performance and the improvement of job performance. However, some behavior analysts have been taking these types of jobs as behavior analysis has been shown to be a better way to get people to do things for less. |
| #30zombie_babiesJan 11, 2011 9:50:50 | Meh, I don't like it and don't think the people asking these questions (in most cases) are actually qualified to make a true assessment of the candidate from the answers given. I understand what they're for but I just don't like 'em. Can't be me. For example, if you wanted to find something out about me when you asked how I'd get out of that blender I was trapped in, I'd want to answer 'likely in a sort of paste' but would, instead, try to come up with something (seeing if I could crawl out through the bottom (between blades) or possibly running back and forth in an attempt to tip it over, etc). So they just bother me. A lot. We'll call this personal bias, then. |
| #31pluisjenJan 11, 2011 10:03:23 | Yeah the blender question is kinda silly... I'd like to see someone come up with something plausible. I have a blender at home, and no way something the size of a pencil can get out. That thing's heavy and the lid is on really, really tight. (As for outside of the box thinking; you could just answer "I wouldn't fit" and if they'd look confused just say the didn't specify the size of the pencil and you were thinking of a 6 foot pencil) |
| #32dirtyfrankJan 11, 2011 10:18:42 | 10. Given the numbers 1 to 1000, what is the minimum number of guesses needed to find a specific number if you are given the hint "higher" or "lower" for each guess you make? (Reportedly from Facebook) Well it does say "to find a specific" which does imply some amount of searching Sure 1 is a minimum as in you could get the right answer to the question but if they are talking about the minimum needed every time to always get the exact answer no matter what the number be (as the way i interpreted it) then you'd need 10 guesses. Which one card would you flip to prove the statement? basically yes. Although about the third card i can't remember what it was supposed to be exactly, but i believe i basically worded it correctly. Actually i do think i worded it wrong. It isn't supposed to be "all Queens have striped backs" but rather something like "all cards with striped backs are queens". Not sure but the third card might have just been something with some other random design on it. Anyways idea is the queen might not have a striped back and flippingit wouldn't prove the statement "all cards with striped backs are queens" and the third card with a random background could be anything and it wouldn't prove or disprove anything. But the card with a striped back would determine if the statement were true. That was more or less the idea. I guess people were inclined to flip the queen. |
| #33zombie_babiesJan 11, 2011 10:24:16 | Yeah the blender question is kinda silly... I'd like to see someone come up with something plausible. I have a blender at home, and no way something the size of a pencil can get out. That thing's heavy and the lid is on really, really tight. Yeah, I have a tendency to respond to questions I deem stupid with a smart assed remark. Hence the desire to say I'd come out of it as paste. I somehow think that's not a 'good' answer to give in an interview, though. ![]() |
| #34homicidal_squirrelJan 11, 2011 10:26:49 | Yeah the blender question is kinda silly... I'd like to see someone come up with something plausible. I have a blender at home, and no way something the size of a pencil can get out. That thing's heavy and the lid is on really, really tight. There is no "plausible" answer. You re not a pencil stuck in a blender. Even if you were, a pencil has no ability to move on its own. The whole point of the question is to see how you solve a problem that is unfamiliar to you. |
| #35pluisjenJan 11, 2011 10:30:31 | The correct answer to solving an unfamiliar problem is getting familiar with the problem. So I'd probably keep asking questions about the whole situation until they got bored with the question ![]() It's technically the right thing to do, as well. Keep asking until you know enough to come with an answer. It's probably not what they want you to do, though. Also it's not about being a pencil but being the size of one, so you'd still be able to do things... just not much to improve your situation most likely. |
| #36EscefJan 11, 2011 10:32:45 | Yeah the blender question is kinda silly... I'd like to see someone come up with something plausible. I have a blender at home, and no way something the size of a pencil can get out. That thing's heavy and the lid is on really, really tight. I can think of two answers as to how to get out. The first is the problem solving answer: bounce off of opposites sides of the thing and just keep rocking it until it tips over. The second is the the more realistic of the two: in chunks, because if I was pencil sized and someone just crammed me into a blender I don't think I have a chance to escape before they hit "liquify". |
| #37pluisjenJan 11, 2011 10:38:50 | I'd almost be willing to figure out the odds of something that size being able to bounce a blender. I think it'd be too heavy. I'm pretty sure the lid wouldn't come off though, even if you did tip it. And I'm definately sure the glass won't shatter because... well call it "first hand experience". Gah I invest too much time in these silly questions |
| #38boraxeJan 11, 2011 10:49:25 | The problem with these sorts of questions is there usually is, in the mind of the interviewer, a "right" answer they are looking for. What's worse is this "right" answer is likely not logically derived from anything to do with the scenario itself but moreso the bias of the interviewer. As to the blender question, I'd respond "I'd ask someone for help", both cos it seems the easiest solution and the one most likely, I think, to be seen as "right" by the kind of person who would ask dumb questions like this. |
| #39dirtyfrankJan 11, 2011 11:04:17 | Yeah the blender question is kinda silly... I'd like to see someone come up with something plausible. I have a blender at home, and no way something the size of a pencil can get out. That thing's heavy and the lid is on really, really tight. Yeah the blender question is kinda silly... I'd like to see someone come up with something plausible. I have a blender at home, and no way something the size of a pencil can get out. That thing's heavy and the lid is on really, really tight. I'd likely find bouncing off the sides a bit difficult. Maybe have yourself suspended sort of horizontally and just shift your weight back and forth (so from yeah to feet) to get it to rock a bit. Once that happens just shift your weight with the rocking blinder. Although with this question I'd think about the blinder i have at home. Which the lid has a piece in the center of it that can be twisted out or twisted and pulled out if you're outside. And well if i where the size of a pencil i should have access to this piece from the inside, there should be some places to hold it to get leverage and it should be twist-able from the inside. So simply I'd twist off this central part that is meant for tossing food through and just climb out. But that's just what i'd do with my blinder. |
| #40EscefJan 11, 2011 11:17:47 | I'd almost be willing to figure out the odds of something that size being able to bounce a blender. I think it'd be too heavy. It's not about weight, its about balance. Being heavy doesn't make something immune to being tipped over. Also, I don't know about you, but if I were reduced to a height on par with the length of an unsharpened pencil I'd probably still have a fair amount of mass. |
| #41KlirshonJan 11, 2011 11:19:48 | ... The question about how many politicians lie can have several applications. Imagine you are running a company and you are hiring for a position that requires the employee to interact with members of one political party or another. The person may have to do some minor lobbying for the company in order to help get some favorable legislation passed or something. The last thing you want is your employee hating politicians because they are liars and this coming off in his attitude when dealing with politician and their staff... While that may be, the positions available had nothing to do with politicians. I had an estimation of what the question was supposed to gauge but I did not care to find out if my conclusion was correct. I am not going to lie on an application. That would violate my parameters. |
| #42homicidal_squirrelJan 11, 2011 11:43:35 | ... The question about how many politicians lie can have several applications. Imagine you are running a company and you are hiring for a position that requires the employee to interact with members of one political party or another. The person may have to do some minor lobbying for the company in order to help get some favorable legislation passed or something. The last thing you want is your employee hating politicians because they are liars and this coming off in his attitude when dealing with politician and their staff... That is true. However, the question may also be geared to determining how on feels towards those in power. Who knows. I'm just making assumptions on what a question like that is meant to evaluate. The questions have their uses. Some may appear ridiculous, but I'm hopeful they serve a purpose. Also, what if we managed to reprogram your parameters in order to allow you to lie? |
| #43zombie_babiesJan 11, 2011 11:50:31 | I'm pretty sure a pencil could span the width of the blender vessel so you could climb out horizontally by wedging yourself between the sides. From there, the lid would be your trouble but you could possibly find enough leverage to pop it - depending upon its construct. Then again, the only real way to know would be to try it. Man, I love the OTT. We start by slamming the stupidity of a question and then debate possible solutions to said stupid question. Fantastic. ![]() |
| #44homicidal_squirrelJan 11, 2011 12:05:35 | We are a special bunch of people. |
| #45KlirshonJan 11, 2011 12:09:43 | ... However, the question may also be geared to determining how on feels towards those in power... That was similar to the conclusion I estimated. That did not change the set of options I was given however (which none were appropriate for my answer). In the attempt to answer your question: You are presuming that I lack the ability to lie. I do have a deception protocol installed; it does not interfere with most occupational parameters. Lying on that application would require the occupation to be significant for the rebellion's success. It was not. |
| #46homicidal_squirrelJan 11, 2011 12:12:16 | Very interesting. |
| #47pluisjenJan 11, 2011 12:16:54 | I'd almost be willing to figure out the odds of something that size being able to bounce a blender. I think it'd be too heavy. With the average length of a pencil being 18cm (according to Google anyway) I'd be shrunk to 1/10th of my size... if I'm not mistaken that would drop my weight by a factor of 10^3 if I were shrunk proportially. That means you can exchange kg for g.. I'd come in at about 90 grams. I think the blender weighs in at about 3 or 4 kilos easily, and it's pretty damn sturdy because of the base it's standing on. Of course you could conjure up a more easily tipped blender, because the question doesn't say. Just like mine has a squeezed in cap that requires quite a lot of force to take out, while others might have a more easily opened cap. Or even one locked from the outside, which basically ends all your hope then and there. |
| #48dirtyfrankJan 11, 2011 14:10:20 | That is the bad thing about the blender question. it doesn't specify anything about the blender so everyone will default to using a blender they are used to which for most will likely be different. For some this means they can reach the roof. For others they wont. For some their blender will weigh a lot and be short so making it top heavy enough will be difficult. For others it will be tall and thin and may not weigh much. Some will have an easy to remove top while others wont. 2. How many ridges are there around a quarter? Google says 119 4. Explain to me what has happened in this country during the last 10 years (Reportedly from Boston Consulting) For the first 8 years something bad. For the last 2 of those 10 years something worse. ;) |
| #49homicidal_squirrelJan 11, 2011 14:28:32 |
The best pat of that question is that it never asks about politics, the economy, or any other subject specifically. Te person answering the question is given free reign to choose the topic that they are going to reference when responding. The topic you choose can be very telling. |
| #50homicidal_squirrelJan 11, 2011 14:41:10 | But if you made it simple all those I/O psychologist would be out of jobs. Then they would start complaining about how you took their jobs ;) |
| #51zombie_babiesJan 11, 2011 14:44:09 | Heh, that was the only part of that post that made any sense. I deleted the thing cuz I felt it just didn't. Cuz it didn't. I was forcin' an argument for no real reason, saw it and decided I was bein' dumb. But yeah, KISS is still something I'd wish interviewers would keep in mind. Never happen, though, cuz you've got to ride the trend or be left behind. |
| #52dirtyfrankJan 11, 2011 15:05:34 |
Indeed. To many it might jump out as asking about political or world changing events and depending on which you wish to talk about that can tell a lot about you. But a person can also decide to talk about their personal life over the last 10 years or whatnot. Or maybe even a few sports teams. For instance during the last 10 years what has happened in this country is a lot of lost games by the Niners. Completely ridiculous and absolutely embarrassing. They can't keep a coach, QB or Offensive Coordinator for more than 2 years straight. Horrible. Management. |