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| #1jhonesyMar 15, 2009 14:33:39 | Or is the 4E General Discussion Forum nothing more then "anti-4E this" and "4venger that", with dashes of random ego-stroking and just a small pinch of anything resembling any kind of discussion with merit? Or anything relevantly general to discuss in... erm, general?
Anybody else have a "Is it just me?" thought they'd like to share? |
| #2doneisiMar 15, 2009 14:45:32 | They should of just renamed it edition war general a long time ago. |
| #3jhonesyMar 15, 2009 14:48:24 | Haha, I like the sound of that. And it would look oh-so Epic when set against the other forums. Maybe Wizards should create a forum separate from the others - Dedicated to nothing more then solely debating an endless series of opinions about which tabletop game game and/or edition they like better, worse, and outright hate? |
| #4baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 15:25:43 | That's why I stick in the OTT. We have FUN here, unlike over in 4E general. There's nothing but idiots arguing over there. |
| #5IdolisMar 15, 2009 15:29:52 | I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Topics in the other areas are places where people of the same mind debate things with people of the opposite mind without really saying anything substantial. The OTT is where all the cool cats hang. Welcome to the Clubhouse. |
| #6krownhunter07Mar 15, 2009 15:40:33 | Ehh, I disagree (to a point)
While seemingly rare, not all of the posts Gen are garbage.
It is tiresome to have to sift through the crap, though... |
| #7pigknightMar 15, 2009 15:50:37 | The only Edition War here is a roleplaying strategy game. |
| #8jhonesyMar 15, 2009 17:05:42 | Well at least it's not just me then. I wanted to post a thread asking what people liked about 4thE compared to previous editions, but after looking around I realized that such a simple question would probably spark an intense anti-4thE and 4venger debate again.
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| #9dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 17:09:59 | 4e General is all about complaining about one thing or another. If a good topic gets started it is turned into some sort of flame war (usually an edition war) by the second or third page. I've seen people complaining (flaming) about whether or not gods should be statted. |
| #10jhonesyMar 15, 2009 17:13:01 | I've seen people complaining (flaming) about whether or not gods should be statted.
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| #11dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 17:14:05 |
Do you not believe me? or do you think it's ridiculous? |
| #12doneisiMar 15, 2009 17:15:14 | Do you not believe me? or do you think it's ridiculous?
I think he was just gawking at your dirtiness. |
| #13jhonesyMar 15, 2009 17:16:09 | Well the dirtiness was part of the factor, but the ridiculous nature was also the other part too. |
| #14dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 17:22:11 | Here is one of them that I'm referring to.
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1117135
Shiftkitty, was asking about whether or not people thought D&D gods should be statted and why. Her basic assumption was that if they are statted then they seem like overly powerful monsters and if they aren't then they are unimportant background noise.
I remember one guys saying that gods should never be killed or be able to be fought by non gods and that if they are statted then they should be made to be level 100 or higher. His assumption/belief is that deities should be omnieverything. |
| #15jhonesyMar 15, 2009 17:26:13 | Wow... who'da thunk a simple question like that could spawn such... completely opposite to the OP's question posts? The interwebs is a strange place... |
| #16dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 17:30:48 | It seemed like most were of the opinion that gods should be statted and if you don't think they shouldn't be then say that, in your campaign, gods are beyond stats. A certain person couldn't except that and decided to tell everyone else they were dumb and what not because we are supposedly all powergamers (and what's wrong with the world) because we aren't happy unless we've killed everything in the campaign (including all the gods).
The person also said that gods should have the power to know what will happen in the future thus they can and should be able to kill the adventurers while they are in a tavern waiting for their first adventure. |
| #17crimson_lancerMar 15, 2009 17:34:22 | We're not all morons on the Gen Boards, just angry for one reason or another.
- Some people are angry because they want to be right no matter what.
- Some people are angry because they get tired of trying to discuss something only to find one of the aforementioned peoples.
- Some people are just looking for a specific response (positive or negative).
- Some people are just looking for conversation, and hoping that eventually, if all the morons leave, they'll get some.
We've had a few Threads that were great for discussion and we made some decent headway, but recently it's deteriorated and we're getting some very bitter people going at it with some very frustrated people, which just doesn't accomplish much, really. Hopefully things will take another turn for the better fairly soon.  |
| #18jhonesyMar 15, 2009 17:34:30 | The person also said that gods should have the power to know what will happen in the future thus they can and should be able to kill the adventurers while they are in a tavern waiting for their first adventure.
Just imagine... That would be one short session... Ahaha. |
| #19dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 17:45:05 |
Just imagine... That would be one short session... Ahaha.
"Rob, I think we should kill those Vecna worshipers before they can create an undead army."
"Great idea Laura. The last thing the villagers in this area need is to run from an army of skeletons."
*The door busts open. Standing in the door way is the figure of a person who is missing one hand and an eye. In his one hand he has a large tome, which is open. He also looks very thin and frail. You notice that his skin looks stretched over his bones and that a smell of death comes from him. From his stump of an arm he reaches forth and casts a spell that sucks out the souls of the adventurers.*
DM - "Ok, you guys need to roll up new characters." |
| #20jhonesyMar 15, 2009 17:48:33 | I think I'd punch my DM in the face.  |
| #21baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 18:23:45 | That's it? Are you serious? |
| #22jhonesyMar 15, 2009 18:35:54 | Serious? Where!? |
| #23baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 18:36:59 | Oh no! Ninjas! |
| #24jhonesyMar 15, 2009 18:43:53 | Is it just me... or does baneofelves remind anybody of that annoying cat-loving aunt they all have, who smells like rotten cabbage and molding cheese? |
| #25baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 18:48:48 | *punches a hole through Jhonesy's skull*
WHO ELSE WANTS TO THINK THAT? HMM? WHO ELSE HAS THAT IDEA?! WELL?! *vein in eye bulges* WELL?!
*head explodes* |
| #26dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 18:50:36 | Is it just me... or does baneofelves remind anybody of that annoying cat-loving aunt they all have, who smells like rotten cabbage and molding cheese?
*punches a hole through Jhonesy's skull*
WHO ELSE WANTS TO THINK THAT? HMM? WHO ELSE HAS THAT IDEA?! WELL?! *vein in eye bulges* WELL?!
*head explodes*
This is exactly how my aunt acts. :P |
| #27baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 18:52:07 | *rips out Dirtyfranks spine out, Mortal Kombat style*
Wait, how can I do that if I'm dead. |
| #28dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 18:53:30 | *rips out Dirtyfranks spine out, Mortal Kombat style*
Wait, how can I do that if I'm dead.
Because you are now a Zombie_baneofelves. I guess you are now an automatic member of Z_B's fan club. |
| #29jhonesyMar 15, 2009 18:53:57 | I can teach you how to circumvent death like I did, though I'd need to be dead in order to communicate with you... |
| #30baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 18:55:22 | No, I'm a spellcaster, so I'm Lich_BaneofElves. |
| #31jhonesyMar 15, 2009 18:56:23 | So, is it just me, or does anyone else think just relaxing after work acting like a fool is a great way to relieve stress and just kick back? |
| #32dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 18:57:09 | No, I'm a spellcaster, so I'm Lich_BaneofElves.
No, because you didn't go through the proper rituals to become a Lich. You could be a Wight_baneofelves or a Ghoul_baneofelves. |
| #33dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 18:57:57 | So, is it just me, or does anyone else think just relaxing after work acting like a fool is a great way to relieve stress and just kick back?
It's better than coming home and jumping into a flame war. |
| #34baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 19:00:05 | No, because you didn't go through the proper rituals to become a Lich. You could be a Wight_baneofelves or a Ghoul_baneofelves.
Actually, I did. Just last night. So I am a lich now. A devil lich......awesome. I HAZ TEH ULTIMATZ EVIL POWAH!!! |
| #35jhonesyMar 15, 2009 19:06:49 | It's better than coming home and jumping into a flame war.
Very true. Work was hell today, and I've had several laughs in just the last ten minutes alone. I feel much more calm then I did say even thirty minutes ago. Ah, life is weird. |
| #36dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 19:09:37 | Very true. Work was hell today, and I've had several laughs in just the last ten minutes alone. I feel much more calm then I did say even thirty minutes ago. Ah, life is weird.
Every day I work is hell, but that is mainly because I have to talk with people, especially people I don't really want to talk to. |
| #37baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 19:12:11 | Very true. Work was hell today, and I've had several laughs in just the last ten minutes alone. I feel much more calm then I did say even thirty minutes ago. Ah, life is weird.
Nope. It's the magic of the OTT. Works this way on everyone. |
| #38jhonesyMar 15, 2009 19:15:07 | Well I work in Customer Service, I'm the big guy, the Chief, Headhoncho. I have seven people who report to me a day, and on top of all that managerial work of course, I have to deal with customers, other corps., ect., ect.. Don't get me wrong, I love working in CS, but sometimes the idiots that you deal with...
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| #39baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 19:19:15 | Customer service for WOTC? |
| #40doneisiMar 15, 2009 19:21:44 | I think I'd punch my DM in the face.
Don't forget to insult his mother and\or girlfriend. Best to add insult to injury. |
| #41jhonesyMar 15, 2009 19:22:01 | If I was a CS for WotC, I think I'd have to shoot myself. Imagine just how many Nerdrage questions they must get. An hour. Everyday.
*shudder* |
| #42dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 19:25:28 | I work as a math tutor which means I have to sit in a room with lots of people studying math and when they raise their hand I have to go over and help them. Some of the regulars are cool, but newer people can irritate me. I hate it when someone has to tell me their life story before they tell me what problem they need help on. All they need to say is "I need help on #37." I don't care to why they are in there getting help and I don't care when they last took math. All I need to know is what problem and what they don't understand. |
| #43jhonesyMar 15, 2009 19:31:20 | Sounds ever so delightful, though if you didn't like it I'm sure that you'd quit, so you must enjoy it. I can't stand math myself, I was never good at it. Makes you wonder why I play D&D? I carry a calculator with me and a laptop at all times to do the calculations for me when it comes to more complicated stuff, heh. |
| #44dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 19:34:36 | Physics is my major which means that math is quite important. I use tutoring as a way for me to practice my math. I don't want to transfer to a 4 year university and find out I forgot all my math. |
| #45jhonesyMar 15, 2009 19:36:09 | Is it just me, or does math really suck? Outside of determining how much money you made off work of course. |
| #46dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 19:37:39 | Sure math sucks but not as much as everything else, especially since it's completely easy. |
| #47jhonesyMar 15, 2009 20:53:46 | Yea yea, Mr Dirty_Genius. |
| #48rakeMar 15, 2009 21:04:24 | Well at least it's not just me then. I wanted to post a thread asking what people liked about 4thE compared to previous editions, but after looking around I realized that such a simple question would probably spark an intense anti-4thE and 4venger debate again.
Huh. You're going to do okay, here.
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| #49jhonesyMar 15, 2009 21:07:29 | I've heard that other things suck too, but my Pa never would go on and explain it better to me, something about birds and bees? Or some other kind of nonsense.
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| #50crimson_lancerMar 15, 2009 21:52:23 | LOL! You're such a bastard, Rake. That was awesome, and this is probably the only time such a thing will earn anyone a 
:D |
| #51baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 21:57:59 | Everyone here is a bastard. |
| #52krownhunter07Mar 15, 2009 22:00:46 | Everyone here is a bastard.
I'm a bastard AND the son of a red-headed stepchild.
Beat that! |
| #53baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 22:16:40 | I don't think I want to beat that... |
| #54dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 22:32:06 | You know you do. *nudge nudge* |
| #55baneofelvesMar 15, 2009 22:34:50 | No, I don't. |
| #56dirtyfrankMar 15, 2009 22:46:27 | *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink* say no more |
| #57jhonesyMar 16, 2009 8:45:02 | That's what they all say. |
| #58rakeMar 16, 2009 9:25:11 | I wonder what it would do to Crimson Lancer's rep if I sigged that bit where he gave me a cookie for saying 4e sucks.  |
| #59jhonesyMar 16, 2009 9:29:26 | "Shattered into pieces a million it would, hmm, yes." |
| #60crimson_lancerMar 16, 2009 9:48:06 | I wonder what it would do to Crimson Lancer's rep if I sigged that bit where he gave me a cookie for saying 4e sucks.
Are you nuts?? It would only help me become more of a neutral Logic Cannon!! Every time someone grouped me in with the "4vengers" on the Gen Boards, I'd just say, "What, are you kidding me?? I once gave a guy a for saying 4E sucks!!" :D:D |
| #61jhonesyMar 17, 2009 18:37:53 | Is it just me... or does this whole "Dual Strike" for 4thE Fighter's "mess" I've been hearing about sound just absolutely silly? I mean, people are actually complaining because a class outside of a Striker has a high-powered at will... |
| #62dirtyfrankMar 17, 2009 18:45:17 | Haven't heard about it cuz I don't go to those forums. |
| #63jhonesyMar 17, 2009 19:29:36 | Well I only went in there myself to take a peek, and well, that's the kind of bickering I saw. Eh, not really my cup o' tea so I think I may stay clear. I'm not big on FFO myself so I doesn't matter much to me either way. Just a passing curiosity is all. |
| #64jhonesyMar 18, 2009 11:35:45 | Is it just me... or has anyone else had this problem as of late?
For the past two days I've been hit with... something. Whenever I log into WotC and try to access the forums, nothing is there. As in, there are no images to click on to jump to a forum. Also, trying google to hit a forum brings up some message about not having viewing privileges, and looking into posts of mine or threads brings up a "No Matches" message.
So, whatever. I left and came back later and PUFF! Suddenly everything is working again. Great. Well, this has happened twice more in the last day alone, and this morning when I tried to get in a quick word before work. I clocked it in around three-four hours before the site was functioning again. I'm not sure what the problem might be, since I've tried deleting cookies, cleaning out temp pages and the like. It seems to be completely random in nature so far as I can tell.
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| #65crimson_lancerMar 18, 2009 11:49:40 | They addressed it in the Community Forum. What's been happening is that subscription holders' cache backup in the vBulletin servers or whatnot keeps corrupting, and then they have to manually fix it each time. |
| #66jhonesyMar 18, 2009 11:53:16 | Sounds nasty, but thanks. I'll have to go take a look - I thought I had actually been banned or something and this was WotC's cruel idea of harsh punishment. :P |
| #67crimson_lancerMar 18, 2009 11:57:49 | Yeah, me too. I thought it was my ISP, though, because I've been banned before, and you can't send messages or even access the Forums at all when you are. |
| #68jhonesyMar 18, 2009 12:04:42 | Wow - That is pretty darn harsh. I mean, I've heard of banning before, but that? That is more like a "Would you please just up and die?" kinda ban. |
| #69dirtyfrankMar 18, 2009 15:33:35 | Sounds nasty, but thanks. I'll have to go take a look - I thought I had actually been banned or something and this was WotC's cruel idea of harsh punishment. :P
Yeah, me too. I thought it was my ISP, though, because I've been banned before, and you can't send messages or even access the Forums at all when you are.
When this stuff was happening a year ago my first reaction was that I was banned. I now know that it is a bug that makes the forums invisible to everyone because it thinks that nobody has proper access. |
| #70baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 15:35:31 | It really confused me. I didn't have an email in my inbox telling me that I was banned for violating the CoC, so I PM'd seTiny and got an explanation. |
| #71jhonesyMar 18, 2009 16:18:28 | You wouldn't get banned anyway. Well, not without a whole lot of teasing firsthand. I shant be denied my delight in that if such a glor- I mean, such a terrible thing were to happen. |
| #72baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 16:19:54 | It's not that hard to get banned. I've been banned twice already, because my jokes went too far.
*grumble*retardedCoC*grumble* |
| #73dirtyfrankMar 18, 2009 16:21:24 | I've been warned before. |
| #74jhonesyMar 18, 2009 16:21:59 | Sounds pretty heavy, I meaning, being banned for a joke? Depending on the type of joke I could understand. Though a joke by itself? Intense. |
| #75baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 16:23:31 | Ah....yeah. My jokes were fairly obscene. They were justified in their actions toward me. I've been behaving a lot more lately, cuz bans suck. |
| #76jhonesyMar 18, 2009 16:27:29 | If this is you behaving, I'd hate to see the naughty side. |
| #77baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 16:28:59 | I only show my "naughty side" (if you know what I mean) to the ladies.
And yeah, this is me behaving. |
| #78crimson_lancerMar 18, 2009 19:34:52 | I've been banned 5+ times, but only for Day-bans and the like.
Of course, I frequent the Gen Boards a lot, too, so there is that.  |
| #79jhonesyMar 18, 2009 19:52:11 | Yeah, I haven't been worked up enough to try posting too much there. Heck, OOT and AP seem to be the only forums not full of a serious pseudo-intellectuals trying to vent out their NerdRage every other post. At least, that's how I've seen the other forums so far anyway. |
| #80baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 19:57:09 | Most of the other forums are filled with more death traps than the Tomb of Horrors |
| #81jhonesyMar 18, 2009 20:01:25 | And that is saying something nice about ToH. |
| #82baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 20:03:19 | Most of the other forums are filled with more horrifying monsters than The Temple of Elemental Evil, too. |
| #83jhonesyMar 18, 2009 20:05:33 | |
| #84baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 20:06:41 | Which is why I don't go there, because it's a pain in the ass to have to worry about the traps and crazy elemental worshipping cultists. |
| #85pigknightMar 18, 2009 20:08:14 | And this place has the Edition War.
It'll eat your life <((0)o(0)<) |
| #86baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 20:09:47 | Yeah. This is an edition war that is actually cool.
You come up with genius ideas, Piggy. |
| #87pigknightMar 18, 2009 20:13:52 | I was heavily sleep deprived and annoyed by 4e/3e general. |
| #88baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 20:16:46 | Well, I'm glad that things turned out this way, because we all get to participate in a cool story now. |
| #89pigknightMar 18, 2009 20:18:03 | And soon we'll have our first NeoGeneration World Event
((Shade'll join random battles, and he's level 10 elite so he can probably solo entire groups of people.)) |
| #90jhonesyMar 18, 2009 20:18:20 | Define "all". |
| #91baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 20:19:33 | Is he a wild card, or is he on a specific side, or what? |
| #92pigknightMar 18, 2009 20:20:32 | I go out of my way to make everyone important to the plot.
Bane is really important mostly because I rolled randomly for someone for Puppet (an NPC that used to be minor) to harass. |
| #93baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 20:22:18 | And then things got out of control and they spawned a kid that is destined to kill everything.
Amazing the way things work out, huh? How did you expect things to go, anyways? |
| #94pigknightMar 18, 2009 20:23:26 | Puppet to fade away like Havoc did.
Dormir is the BBEG and always will be, Puppet was just another lacky. |
| #95jhonesyMar 18, 2009 20:24:37 | If I understood any of that I would shake my head and nod. But I don't.
*shakes head and nods* |
| #96pigknightMar 18, 2009 20:26:39 | Join the War. Do eeeeeeeeeet. |
| #97jhonesyMar 18, 2009 20:27:18 | "But sir, I don't know nothing 'bout no war!" |
| #98pigknightMar 18, 2009 20:28:05 | Read the rules and discussion thread, then follow the directions. |
| #99crimson_lancerMar 18, 2009 21:22:02 | Which is why I don't go there, because it's a pain in the ass to have to worry about the traps and crazy elemental worshipping cultists.
This is the reason I am a Logic Cannon, joining neither "side," and simply conversing with people on interesting topics.
Of course, every now and then someone thinks it'll be fun to stick their head down my barrel and scream profanities, and that just ticks me off...tick by tick...3...2...1...
:headexplo |
| #100baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 21:23:23 | So it's like a morbid curiousity that keeps you there? |
| #101crimson_lancerMar 18, 2009 21:41:16 | So it's like a morbid curiousity that keeps you there?
More like a challenge.
It's like constantly being on a Battlefield, having to watch for attacks from any direction at any given time, and doing your best to survive for as long as you can. Really, though if there's one thing I love, it's a good challenge. Well, that and decent conversation. :D |
| #102baneofelvesMar 18, 2009 21:45:57 | I don't get how you can fend them all off. Titanium Dragon on one side, Psychotic Robot and Rant Casey on another. That's just amazing, man. |
| #103jhonesyMar 18, 2009 22:06:02 | I don't know about no Robot, but the other two I have heard of, and seen in action. I'll say no more on that subject, less I be added to their Sheat Lyst. |
| #104crimson_lancerMar 19, 2009 7:56:02 | Eh. It's on break for now. Webster decided to come in and turn the discussion back to DnD again, rather than just a verbal arena with no possible winner. If you want to post on the Gen Boards, do so now, while the tranquility lasts. |
| #105jhonesyMar 19, 2009 8:56:28 | So it does reach a state if Tranquility Ascension from time to time? Colour me surprised! |