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#1

homicidal_squirrel

Jul 04, 2012 9:35:27
www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/04/us-sc...


#2

grehnhewe

Jul 04, 2012 10:11:07
I thought it said bosomUndecided

#3

draco1119

Jul 04, 2012 22:01:56
I thought this article was going to be about a seaman.
#4

homicidal_squirrel

Jul 04, 2012 22:08:14
I thought this article was going to be about a seaman.


Working the late-night shift on the street corner again?
#5

ADHadh

Jul 04, 2012 22:08:48
I thought this article was going to be about a seaman.


Working the late-night shift on the street corner again?


Eh, maybe everything kind of waves again.
#6

draco1119

Jul 04, 2012 22:14:29
*sigh*

bosun
#7

ADHadh

Jul 04, 2012 22:19:34
*sigh*

bosun


Still an excuse to down some grog, aye?

(and I was let down when I learned what that word looks like in English btw – it's "bosman" in mine; changed a character's rank to First Mate because of it)
#8

homicidal_squirrel

Jul 04, 2012 22:22:12
*sigh*

bosun

You're not helping your case.
#9

The_Silversword

Jul 05, 2012 6:44:13
I'll be more impressed once they find those pesky gravitons.
#10

The_Silversword

Jul 05, 2012 6:45:18
Oh, and another thing, If photons have no mass then why are they all the time getting sucked into black holes?
#11

pigknight

Jul 28, 2012 21:34:23
Unburial Rites

Oh, and another thing, If photons have no mass then why are they all the time getting sucked into black holes?


'Cause black holes are like 4e, they suck really hard. Hey oh!
#12

The_Silversword

Jul 28, 2012 23:04:20
Well played sir, well played.
#13

dirtyfrank

Jul 30, 2012 19:08:51
Oh, and another thing, If photons have no mass then why are they all the time getting sucked into black holes?


Around a black hole space-time is distorted. Light still travels in a straight line within this warped space-time even if to us it looks like it is circling or spiraling into the black hole.

-or-

It's all a part of God's master plan and we shouldn't question it. Nuf said.
#14

draco1119

Jul 30, 2012 19:20:04
Well played sir, well played.

What are you talking about, dood?  Nobody plays 4e.  
#15

The_Silversword

Jul 31, 2012 0:11:08
Oh, and another thing, If photons have no mass then why are they all the time getting sucked into black holes?


Around a black hole space-time is distorted. Light still travels in a straight line within this warped space-time even if to us it looks like it is circling or spiraling into the black hole.

-or-

It's all a part of God's master plan and we shouldn't question it. Nuf said.



I jus dont understand why sub atomic particles cant have mass on their own, does there need to be a 'god particle' to explain mass? I dunno, alot of this stuff just sounds made up, like dark matter, i mean seriously? that was just something someone made up just so the math would work out right, not enough mass in the galaxy to actually hold it all together? must be dark matter!
#16

The_Silversword

Jul 31, 2012 0:17:43
Well played sir, well played.

What are you talking about, dood?  Nobody plays 4e.  



I was refering to the MtG card, people still play that right? Looks like i got some serious competition for the title of Resident Thread Necromancer

and, HEY!

I still play 4e!! I love it! Everybody SHOULD all have special powers, not just Wizads and Priests!! At-Will, Encounter, Daily, works so much better than, oh i can use this power 3 times a day, or whatever, and, and, I absolutely love the monster stat blocks, everything you need is right there, and they all get special powers too!! What it boils down to is having special powers is AWESOME!!! therefore, 4e is AWESOME!!!! 
#17

homicidal_squirrel

Jul 31, 2012 0:26:40
Well played sir, well played.

What are you talking about, dood?  Nobody plays 4e.  



I was refering to the MtG card, people still play that right? Looks like i got some serious competition for the title of Resident Thread Necromancer

and, HEY!

I still play 4e!! I love it! Everybody SHOULD all have special powers, not just Wizads and Priests!! At-Will, Encounter, Daily, works so much better than, oh i can use this power 3 times a day, or whatever, and, and, I absolutely love the monster stat blocks, everything you need is right there, and they all get special powers too!! What it boils down to is having special powers is AWESOME!!! therefore, 4e is AWESOME!!!! I drink a lot. Like a whole lot. I've drank myself into brain damage. I also love all the Twilight movies. Go team sprkles!!!



#18

The_Silversword

Jul 31, 2012 0:40:01
Seriously!?

I have you know that I havnt even seen ALL of the Twilight movies, luckily the kids seem to be out growing that stuff, so I dont think I'll have to pick up the last movie. 
#19

homicidal_squirrel

Jul 31, 2012 0:41:49
Seriously!?

I have you know that I havnt even seen ALL of the Twilight movies, luckily the kids seem to be out growing that stuff, so I dont think I'll have to pick up the last movie. 

Raaaaaaaaaaaaight. Blame the kids. ;)

#20

draco1119

Jul 31, 2012 1:02:59
Well played sir, well played.

What are you talking about, dood?  Nobody plays 4e.  



I was refering to the MtG card, people still play that right? Looks like i got some serious competition for the title of Resident Thread Necromancer

and, HEY!

I still play 4e!! I love it! Everybody SHOULD all have special powers, not just Wizads and Priests!! At-Will, Encounter, Daily, works so much better than, oh i can use this power 3 times a day, or whatever, and, and, I absolutely love the monster stat blocks, everything you need is right there, and they all get special powers too!! What it boils down to is having special powers is AWESOME!!! therefore, 4e is AWESOME!!!! 

In Redneck, Ohio... 4E PLAYS YOU!!!

#21

pigknight

Jul 31, 2012 1:05:24
I like my classes to feel different. I liked 3e how every class felt different. 
#22

The_Silversword

Jul 31, 2012 5:36:53
Well played sir, well played.

What are you talking about, dood?  Nobody plays 4e.  



I was refering to the MtG card, people still play that right? Looks like i got some serious competition for the title of Resident Thread Necromancer

and, HEY!

I still play 4e!! I love it! Everybody SHOULD all have special powers, not just Wizads and Priests!! At-Will, Encounter, Daily, works so much better than, oh i can use this power 3 times a day, or whatever, and, and, I absolutely love the monster stat blocks, everything you need is right there, and they all get special powers too!! What it boils down to is having special powers is AWESOME!!! therefore, 4e is AWESOME!!!! 

In Redneck, Ohio... 4E PLAYS YOU!!!



Redneck? IM in Day'on, wes all Gangsta here, in da 'hood ya'll!
#23

The_Silversword

Jul 31, 2012 5:42:29
I like my classes to feel different. I liked 3e how every class felt different. 



Yeah, but they all used the same xp table, not kool, and anyways, I thought we was supposed to be talking about sub-atomic particles, and some how we got off-topic into D&D, which is a forbidden subject round here, yay us!!!
#24

ADHadh

Jul 31, 2012 6:24:24
I like my classes to feel different. I liked 3e how every class felt different. 


Yeah, some of them felt obsolete
#25

zombie_babies

Jul 31, 2012 9:07:26
Redneck? IM in Day'on, wes all Gangsta here, in da 'hood ya'll!



It's a well known fact that anything south of Akron is technically West Virginia.  Of course there's no reason to expect you to know that.  Cuz you're south of Akron.  ;)

Oh, and 4e sucks.  Hard.  But if people like to play something that I think sucks that's fine with me.  It's not my time what's gettin' wasted. 

Oh, and isn't there some sort of interesting coincidence about the ... timeliness of the bosun discovery?  Like, wasn't there some sort of question of extended funding that happened to pop up right before it was found or something?  Like, it's pretty convenient that they found it right when they did if that's true, right? 
#26

dirtyfrank

Jul 31, 2012 9:21:37
Oh, and another thing, If photons have no mass then why are they all the time getting sucked into black holes?


Around a black hole space-time is distorted. Light still travels in a straight line within this warped space-time even if to us it looks like it is circling or spiraling into the black hole.

-or-

It's all a part of God's master plan and we shouldn't question it. Nuf said.



I jus dont understand why sub atomic particles cant have mass on their own, does there need to be a 'god particle' to explain mass? I dunno, alot of this stuff just sounds made up, like dark matter, i mean seriously? that was just something someone made up just so the math would work out right, not enough mass in the galaxy to actually hold it all together? must be dark matter!


As I understand it the reason why they can't have mass of their own is that in order for the theory of the standard model to work there has to be a higgs boson which is responsible for mass. Well more specifically a higgs field that when an elementary particle interacts with it some sort of symmetry is broke and the particle gains mass. the Higgs boson is supposed to be a byproduct of it. And the higgs boson isn't a "god" particle. It's a "goddamn" particle or at least that is what was intended. A man named Leon Lederman wrote a book he intended to be called "goddamn particle" but publishers or whatnot didn't like it (swearing or something on the cover) so they changed the name to "god particle". Something that Higgs hated cuz he felt that it might be found offensive to religious people or miss interpreted.

Dark matter is a different thing. We detect tons more mass than we can detect. Visible matter we can detect with light but when gravitational lensing says that there is way more mass than the visible matter can have. Dark matter just means there is something we can't detect but know is there. There are a lot of ideas of what it could be and one of the ones i like is an idea of there being, in a sense, a "shadow" particle to everything on the standard model. Particles tend to come in pairs to keep some sort of symmetry and with this idea these particles that are speculated to make up dark matter are high mass which means they interact through the weak force and not through electric force. Of course it's just conjecture at this point but it is one of the ones i've heard that sounds the most plausible. It still stands though that until anything is found out for sure dark matter just means "something".
#27

The_Silversword

Jul 31, 2012 12:06:39
To dirtyfrank, I just wanna say thank you for taking the time to explain this to us simpletons, but I dunno, alot of it still sounds made up, haha.

As to the rest of you, I got to go to work now, but when I get back, I'm gonna come up up with a great come back! 
#28

dirtyfrank

Jul 31, 2012 12:49:56
Don't worry quantum and related fields gets fairly abstract. I've taken 2 semesters of it and that's barely the tip of the ice berg.

The first semester of quantum was quite strange how it progressed. You start out with some understandable concepts and assumptions. After doing some math under different conditions more things are added in to make the model more complete. Before you know it the shrodenger equation is in spherical coordinates, you've made a triple substitution and you no longer have any clue why you started doing what you're doing. It all starts to make sense after much study but before that it all seems like smoke and mirrors. Even some of the higgs boson junk seems like that to me still since i dont realy know much about it as of yet.
#29

pigknight

Jul 31, 2012 13:33:45
dirtyfrank: Resident Mathemagician.
#30

draco1119

Jul 31, 2012 21:19:36
@Silversword: dood, I've been to Dayton many times; I used to live less than an hour away. Y'all are about as gangsta as B-Rad Glick.
@ZB: not quite; if they're south of Akron, and east of Columbus, they're part of KY.
#31

The_Silversword

Jul 31, 2012 23:32:54
If youve been to Day'on many times then you should know what im talking about, and im hoping many of you know that i dont see myself as Gangsta, like at all, if you take a look at my song selections in the WAYLT thread i think its pretty obvious, but many people here (in Dayton) seem to think they be Gangsta material, they all also have problems pronouncing 'T', which is why I said Day'on, the Ki'ens lost their mi'ens, I guess its not really funny unless you live here, even then its not really funny. Maybe Gangsta is the wrong word im lookin for, maybe **** would be more appropiate, can I say ****? is that a CoC/ToS violation?

But  I think its intersting that you use Akron as a point of reference, I mean Akron, really? What the hell does Akron have? Most people outside of Ohio have probably never even heard of it, Bout the only thing they got goin on is the Football Hall of Fame, or wait, is that Canton? Im always getting those mixed up. But most people have heard of Dayton, birthplace of aviation and all that, Also its the birthplace of Bruce Banner aka The Incredible Hulk (unless thats been retconned since the last time I checked) So yeah, Dayons got it goin on!! We aint the Gem City for nuthin!!! 
#32

Ragnar_Lodbrok

Aug 01, 2012 0:43:42
Non-spellcasters in 3.5 can have special powers too. It's called Tome of Battle  .
#33

pigknight

Aug 01, 2012 0:53:40
My favorite 3.5e classes were Binder, Crusader, Duskblade, Sorcerer, Swordage, and Warblade. I wonder why?
#34

zombie_babies

Aug 01, 2012 8:17:42
@ZB: not quite; if they're south of Akron, and east of Columbus, they're part of KY.



We civilized folks consider everything south of Akron to be West Virginia.  It's simpler that way ... much like the people that dwell south of Akron.  ;)  To be totally honest, though, we don't think too highly of Akron itself, either. 

If youve been to Day'on many times then you should know what im talking about, and im hoping many of you know that i dont see myself as Gangsta, like at all, if you take a look at my song selections in the WAYLT thread i think its pretty obvious, but many people here (in Dayton) seem to think they be Gangsta material, they all also have problems pronouncing 'T', which is why I said Day'on, the Ki'ens lost their mi'ens, I guess its not really funny unless you live here, even then its not really funny. Maybe Gangsta is the wrong word im lookin for, maybe **** would be more appropiate, can I say ****? is that a CoC/ToS violation?

But  I think its intersting that you use Akron as a point of reference, I mean Akron, really? What the hell does Akron have? Most people outside of Ohio have probably never even heard of it, Bout the only thing they got goin on is the Football Hall of Fame, or wait, is that Canton? Im always getting those mixed up. But most people have heard of Dayton, birthplace of aviation and all that, Also its the birthplace of Bruce Banner aka The Incredible Hulk (unless thats been retconned since the last time I checked) So yeah, Dayons got it goin on!! We aint the Gem City for nuthin!!! 



The HoF is in Canton.  Akron has a minor league ball team (and a really great li'l stadium, too) and the University of Akron - now home to Jim Tressel, a spankin' new football stadium and the men's soccer national champs like a year ago.  It has a couple of ok restaurants and bars and an ok park and ... that's it.  Nothin' else really to speak of.  Which is kinda typical of most cities in Ohio, really.

Anyhoo, if anyone wonders why we folks north of Akron consider anything south of Akron to be, well, a place with less teeth per capita, it simply means you haven't been north of Akron.  If you had been, you'd understand.  ;)
#35

Klirshon

Aug 01, 2012 8:59:56
@ZB: not quite; if they're south of Akron, and east of Columbus, they're part of KY.



We civilized folks consider everything south of Akron to be West Virginia.  It's simpler that way ... much like the people that dwell south of Akron. 



First: Draco is incorrect. According to this theme, those Ohioans have to be west of Columbus to be considered "part of KY".

Second: I don't adhere to your human categorisations. Akron is beneath me as are all human localities.
#36

The_Silversword

Aug 01, 2012 11:51:41
Ive been north of Akron many, many times, which is why I dont know what the **** you guys are talking about!


And speaking of Ohio cities that no ones ever heard of, I just found out that Lima is supposed to be the setting for Glee, uh, yay?  
#37

zombie_babies

Aug 01, 2012 12:02:01
Yeah, but you're a West Virginian at heart.  You'll never get it. 
#38

draco1119

Aug 01, 2012 13:31:13
Wow. I didn't know that Lima was big enough to even have a high school.
#39

daschemteacher

Aug 01, 2012 16:30:20


Dark matter is a different thing. We detect tons more mass than we can detect. Visible matter we can detect with light but when gravitational lensing says that there is way more mass than the visible matter can have. Dark matter just means there is something we can't detect but know is there.



I love that line!

Yes, Quantum Chem/physics.
The electron is on one side half the time and the other side half the time, but never in the middle.

At U of Illinois I had to take a test to check out the keys to the observatory. It was going to be on Thursday. I asked if I could do it on a different day b/c I had a quiz to study for. He said no. Then asked what class. I told him P-chem. He asked when would be the best time for me.
#40

dirtyfrank

Aug 01, 2012 17:09:19
Lol I should proof read stuff before I post it. Meant to say we detect more than we can see. bleh.

I is fail.
#41

homicidal_squirrel

Aug 01, 2012 18:33:10


Dark matter is a different thing. We detect tons more mass than we can detect. Visible matter we can detect with light but when gravitational lensing says that there is way more mass than the visible matter can have. Dark matter just means there is something we can't detect but know is there.



I love that line!

Yes, Quantum Chem/physics.
The electron is on one side half the time and the other side half the time, but never in the middle.

At U of Illinois I had to take a test to check out the keys to the observatory. It was going to be on Thursday. I asked if I could do it on a different day b/c I had a quiz to study for. He said no. Then asked what class. I told him P-chem. He asked when would be the best time for me.

Weak sauce. You should have punched him in the face and taken the keys. 

#42

The_Silversword

Aug 02, 2012 1:19:10
Lol I should proof read stuff before I post it. Meant to say we detect more than we can see. bleh.

I is fail.



I understood what you meant, thats what counts!