It hurts to be pretty ... unless you're a dood.

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#1

zombie_babies

Dec 17, 2010 14:54:04

Link

Apparently, jealousy plays a role in the hiring process.  Oh, and it looks like I should shave down to just a mustache.  The facial hair thing may explain my recent promotion, though. 

#2

toastedamphibian

Dec 17, 2010 15:01:13
Does 'Evil Twin' facial hair count as a beard or a mustache?
#3

zombie_babies

Dec 17, 2010 15:03:44
I think beard.  And that sucks cuz mustaches alone are kinda lame. 
#4

zombie_babies

Dec 17, 2010 15:43:22
Apparently it's common in parts of Europe and Israel.  Says so right there in the article.  As we've got members from Europe, I thought it a reasonable article to link to.
#5

zombie_babies

Dec 17, 2010 16:09:42
Everything is against the CoC.
#6

Robin_Hoodlum

Dec 17, 2010 16:14:56
Europe? That sounds like international news! Thus political content! Isn't this against the CoC? 


If you think so, report it.
*shrug*
#7

pluisjen

Dec 17, 2010 16:38:14
I never include a photo in my resume... at best you can get an old picture of me if you look me up on LinkedIn, but that´s low-res as well..

I'm also about as far removed from regular/professional looking as you can get, but I've never been turned down for a job so far.

Then again I´m a game designer and there aren´t a lot of people with my expertise so maybe they´re just not very picky Laughing
#8

EscherEnigma

Dec 17, 2010 21:26:39
I've never included a photo as part of a resume, but it is one of the things that was requested after I'd gotten past the first round of interviews for the job I'm hoping to get.
#9

toastedamphibian

Dec 17, 2010 21:56:24
Good thing you have the perfect picture to send them!
#10

Mad_Jack

Dec 17, 2010 22:43:45
I've never included a photo as part of a resume, but it is one of the things that was requested after I'd gotten past the first round of interviews for the job I'm hoping to get.




Send them the one with the leather pants...

#11

EscherEnigma

Dec 17, 2010 23:08:53
I sent them
#12

toastedamphibian

Dec 18, 2010 1:34:57
I've never included a photo as part of a resume, but it is one of the things that was requested after I'd gotten past the first round of interviews for the job I'm hoping to get.




Send them the one with the leather pants...




My sentiments exactly.
#13

ADHadh

Dec 18, 2010 4:01:52
I sent them
#14

toastedamphibian

Dec 18, 2010 4:18:14

And here I was thinking that smile said

"I'm too buzzed to care about how annoying you are"
or
"I'm trying really hard to cover up the fact that I want to put a pencile through your eye because I need you to think that I like you"

Huh.
#15

pluisjen

Dec 18, 2010 4:35:06
I guess it also depends on the position though? I can understand them wanting a picture if you get a job that involves a lot of face-to-face contact with customers and partners. (Even though I don't agree with it; but hey that's people) 
#16

Robin_Hoodlum

Dec 18, 2010 5:46:38
Damn EE!
I'm not particularly gay, but you are a nice lookin' fella!
That's a good picture!
#17

toastedamphibian

Dec 18, 2010 6:27:36
Damn EE!
I'm not particularly gay, but you are a nice lookin' fella!
That's a good picture!



Huh, mabey I'm just not seeing what everyone else is seeing. That strikes me distinctly as a **** eating grin (the rest of the country has that expression, right?). I mean sure, as **** eating grins go, thats a comely one, without doubt.
#18

toastedamphibian

Dec 18, 2010 6:33:27
Mabey they wanted to make sure he wasn't a secret arab!
#19

EscherEnigma

Dec 18, 2010 13:43:34
Hah, no, no real people skills required for the job.  I'm aiming for a code monkey job.  Truth is, even if I work on a project that'll be presented to a general, congressman, or similarly important folk (quite possible, if I understood the position correctly, though I doubt I'd work solo on anything so immediately important, at least not anytime soon) it wouldn't be presented by me as the code monkeys are kept corralled away from the brass.  They get intermediaries for that sort of thing1.

I think it's more of just putting a face to a name as, if I understand it correctly, the organization has a whole slew of resumes that get passed around between different managers that look for good matches for what they need and having a name/face connection makes it easier to remember a specific person when talking to other managers about who wants which code monkey.

But that's just my guess.
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1Standard practice in the industry, actually.  Code monkeys aren't, generally speaking, good at non-jargon talk.
#20

Mad_Jack

Dec 18, 2010 15:21:19

 The real reason they wanted a picture is because, being a government job, they're choosing who gets it by pinning all the pictures to the wall, closing their eyes, and throwing darts at them.


#21

toastedamphibian

Dec 18, 2010 16:46:52
Or perhapes they need it to make an ID badge.

[I'm sorry. I will try to be less reasonable in the future.]
#22

EscherEnigma

Dec 18, 2010 17:07:19
Nah, if it was for an ID badge they would be taking the picture themselves as there's no easy way1 to verify the picture is actually of me (I e-mailed it to them two months after interviewing).
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1Less-then-easy way #1: run the picture by the guys that first interviewed me back in late September and see if they remember the face of just one of the couple dozen guys they interviewed that day, when they've been spending a few months going from school to school doing a couple dozen interivews at each.  And doing this roughly two months after the interview.
Less-then-easy way #2: ask the NM DMV for a copy of my driver's license photo and hope that (A) it's recent and (B) the NM DMV plays nice.  And seeing as NM isn't cooperating on the whole Real ID thing, it's quite possible they wouldn't play nice.  Not to mention that when I last renewed my driver's license they still had the photo from when I was  16 in their system, which didn't look a whole lot like me anymore.  For some reason the photo from when I was 21 wasn't actually in their system.  So it's possible my new one isn't either.
#23

pluisjen

Dec 19, 2010 12:06:36
Also wouldn't you expect them to make an ID badge after the hiring process rather then during? You'd make a lot of useless badges.

Standard practice in the industry, actually.  Code monkeys aren't, generally speaking, good at non-jargon talk.



Unfortunately they are usually replaced by sales-people, who are so good at speaking with non-jargon talk that the purchaser of the software has absolutely no idea what they're really purchasing.