Welcome to the global economy bro. Run for the hills, buckle down, and brace yourself. Hope things get better though mate, best of luck!
It sucks. They let the credit card companies get away with murder in the US. We should arrest them all.
I gots a better plan. *Starts sharpening a pair of scimitars*
Pfft. That's small-time. What I'M gonna do to those ****ers is I'm gonna tie them up, and place grenades on them in such a way that if they move an INCH, they'll pull a pin and blow themselves up. It has a mental effect on them before they die, instead of just eviscerating or decapitating them or whatever it is that you planned.
To the OP: Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, it's a story that's becoming far too common nowadays. I hope you manage to get another job soon so you can pay your debts and living expenses. Just don't give in to despair, because you'll wind up in a pit that you can't climb out of then.
I just lost my job, and I am deep into debt. Hurray! I am screwed.
Run For Mayor at the Next election:
1. Campaigning: A Large Photo of yourself with Vote For
2. Policy Platform: "A process where every act of Government, Law, Constitution, and Executive will require the direct and regular approval of every citizen least such acts be deemed Sedition."
"Every citizen has the right to an equal share of the benifits and obligations of citizenship. That means an equal share of the resources."
"Profiting from the destruction and exploitation of others undermines our nation. To that end we must outlaw the Sale of Alcohol and Tobacco while protecting the freedom of Private production for personal use."
"Rates beyond $1000/ year will be paid in Labour to ensure community involvement."
"The Priorities of Local Government are to employ the Unemployed even in that means an army of Civil Maintenance Personel sweeping streets with brooms, painting over graffiti with whitewash, and deporting the criminal."
I got 2.6% of the vote and was beaten by all the people who promoted policies of Human rights violation...
I just lost my job, and I am deep into debt. Hurray! I am screwed.
You're in good company, mate. I was one paycheck short of recovering completely from the 2008 flood when I got laid off* last week. I guess that big ol' luxury car of mine will make an excellent home now that I'm going to have to turn gypsy.
I guess the upside is that playing D&D doesn't cost too much money and my library will fit into the trunk of my car. So we'll have something to do when we aren't scrounging for food.
*I had to leave a job I was at for 13 years because the flood tanked the local economy and then the national and international economy went down the swirling road. No loss, really. I was looking for a job when I got that one.
I'm a self-employed building contractor and had a work accident back in October. I that someone else was nailing ricochet back and catch me in the eye while I had my safety glasses off (which was stupid but :/).
Anyway, I have had 3 surgeries(1 to repair the cornea, 1 to replace the shattered lens, and one to clear all the blood out of the ocular fluid) on it, and am probably going to have to have another(to remove a scar from my macula).
Anyway the fun started when I obviously couldn't work. The only good thing is, I had no insurance, but not working got me on Amerigroup(poor people insurance in the US), and that paid for it. But then in December from attempting to actually do some catching up on my lagging bills I apparently made to much to keep it. (and hell, doing work when I wasn't even supposed to be medically)
And they didn't tell me that I was turned inactive. So I have five months of doctors visits that weren't covered that I was unaware of until yesterday... my bills have been behind because even after recovering, no one is wanting work on their house in this economy.
Needless to say. NO fun.
The good thing is I've never had a credit card in my entire life, my car is paid off. So all I owe are rent, car insurance, and utilities. But even then it piles up fast with no work.
Hang in there :D
United States Army...go there, join up... paycheck, food, home, medical...cant beat it...
That's my plan after college (or highschool, if I can't make it into a decent college)
United States Army...go there, join up... paycheck, food, home, medical...cant beat it...
Then you have a real medical condition. Caused by being deployed. The doctors say you shouldn't be sent back over. You get deployed two more times while the doctors keep trying to get you a medical discharge.
The people over you act like you are FAKING a seizure. Despite medical proof that its involuntary movement.
Yeah, the Army is so freaking great.
(this is what happened to my brother)
Basically, yes, if you have the right mindset, and are healthy, its fine. Doing it just for the money though is stupid.
It is awful. You miss one month of payments, and your finances are ruined and your interest rates go above 29%. Too bad the credit card companies are in bed with the republicans and the democrats.
I know a 100% foolproof way to never accrue credit card debt.
Don't have one. :D
I know a 100% foolproof way to never accrue credit card debt.
Don't have one. :D
It is impossible to navigate the US economy without one. Pricing assumes major purchases are bought on credit.
Though now that this has happened to me. I will not be using credit cards ever again. But that means I will live a life closer to my grandparents than my parents.
I got divorced 6 years ago. I havent had a credtit card sense. It is actually rather refreshing. However it seems to make it harder to prove you have credit and buy a house. Which sucks.
To the OP: I understand your pain. I work consrtuction, and the company I was working for last year lost a contract the first week of december. I just got picked up by another company 10 days ago. Does your area have a group of building trades unions? If you can get in they pay for all of your training and pay very well. Im currently a 4th year apprentice and make over 26 pr hour gross on the check, and my benifits package is almost as much.
Actually I wish I knew a trade now. I worked in marketing. Can't find work anywhere now. There just aren't enough jobs, and when there is one, there are people with more impressive resume's than me applying. I have recieved no responses to any of the resumes I sent out. I have gone in in person hundreds of times, and been told to apply online (no one seems to want to deal face to face anymore). Now I am resorting to applying for retail work, and I can't even get a job in that sector. In fact I had one interview for such a position last month, and was rejected.
That's my plan after college (or highschool, if I can't make it into a decent college)
Well if you arent in a spot where you HAVE to go...roll into the Air Force or Navy, and make THEM pay for your college :D, the lifestyle sucks but it is worth it.:D
I'm sorry you lost your job and all, and I don't know all the details, but no one forces anyone to use a credit card. Well, maybe at gunpoint, if your being robbed, but that is extenuating circumstances. If you spend money on things you don't need or are beyond your income, then that is the true problem.
Believe me.. I know how hard it is to find a job everywhere right now. Try being an actor... sheesh is that tough. But, you do what you have to do to survive. Me, I searched long and hard to get two part time jobs that I can't stand, and I constantly send out my headshot for acting gigs, and go to auditions. It's tough, it sucks, and I'm depressed a fair bit, but that is life. I just suck it up, and push onwards.
Now, I'm sure to get flamed for not being one of the 'oh, I'm so sorry, but things will get better' type of posters, but I've found that most people in life blame all their problems on others, rather than admit that they are the ones that screwed things up.
So.. just to be an insensitive bastard, if you just lost your job, do you really think browsing a hobby related forum is the best use of your time? Shouldn't you be looking at some sort of job bank, or at the very least, craigslist, kijiji, backpage or some other service that has a plethora of job postings.
That is what I do with 80% of my day. But you need to blow off steam and socialize once in a while. It is also good, because you need to keep your brain stimulated. The worst thing to do when you lose a job, is start getting up later, and staying away from things that entertain you. This weekend is special, because it is a holiday. So I am staying with family and posting more than normal. Trust me I am on craigslist, indeed, monster, USA Jobs, the whole lot. And I apply to everything I am qualified to do. But no one has bitten yet. Also been going into offices to speak with human resources people.
I'm sorry you lost your job and all, and I don't know all the details, but no one forces anyone to use a credit card. Well, maybe at gunpoint, if your being robbed, but that is extenuating circumstances. If you spend money on things you don't need or are beyond your income, then that is the true problem.
But I could afford them till I lost my job. And you honestly need credit cards to do anything these days. We were living within our means, like everyone else. But without monlthy income I missed payments and my interest rates shot up past 29%, and I was hit with fees. I am a smart guy, but those terms and conditions are difficult to understand, in fact they are deliberately hard to understand, and I didn't realize this could happen.
Believe me.. I know how hard it is to find a job everywhere right now. Try being an actor... sheesh is that tough. But, you do what you have to do to survive. Me, I searched long and hard to get two part time jobs that I can't stand, and I constantly send out my headshot for acting gigs, and go to auditions. It's tough, it sucks, and I'm depressed a fair bit, but that is life. I just suck it up, and push onwards.
I actually considered getting into acting, because for some reason, there are a lot of acting jobs here all of a sudden. But I think I may not have the mug for it.
Now, I'm sure to get flamed for not being one of the 'oh, I'm so sorry, but things will get better' type of posters, but I've found that most people in life blame all their problems on others, rather than admit that they are the ones that screwed things up.
I lived my whole life always taking responsibility for my own actions. My father was a randian. So you can imagine, I don't normally put the blame on others. In this case, with the economy like it is, and credit card companies operating the way they do now (remember much of what they are doing now was illegal a decade ago), I think some of my problems are made worse by an unethical (not illegal) financial system and a really bad economy. At a certain point, there just isn't work out there. Which sucks, because I have never had to live off others.
Aside to That Blasted Somoflange
Dude, you're in Hamilton... like me. The well is drying up here. Doesn't matter what your occupation is. I commute to Oakville every day, and my wife does temp work in Grimsby or Stoney Creek most days. There just ain't much work in this area.
That's not to suggest you don't look for work anywhere, I'm sure you do... I'm just saying that if your location is accurate, I can understand part of the problem.
Still, good luck. Hope you find something.
That's not to suggest you don't look for work anywhere, I'm sure you do... I'm just saying that if your location is accurate, I can understand part of the problem.
Still, good luck. Hope you find something.
Well if you arent in a spot where you HAVE to go...roll into the Air Force or Navy, and make THEM pay for your college :D, the lifestyle sucks but it is worth it.:D
Yeah, I'm gonna do Air Force, like my father did, and my grandfather did, and like my uncle did. Don't wanna be a combo breaker.
Run For Mayor at the Next election:
1. Campaigning: A Large Photo of yourself with Vote For
2. Policy Platform: "A process where every act of Government, Law, Constitution, and Executive will require the direct and regular approval of every citizen least such acts be deemed Sedition."
"Every citizen has the right to an equal share of the benifits and obligations of citizenship. That means an equal share of the resources."
"Profiting from the destruction and exploitation of others undermines our nation. To that end we must outlaw the Sale of Alcohol and Tobacco while protecting the freedom of Private production for personal use."
"Rates beyond $1000/ year will be paid in Labour to ensure community involvement."
"The Priorities of Local Government are to employ the Unemployed even in that means an army of Civil Maintenance Personel sweeping streets with brooms, painting over graffiti with whitewash, and deporting the criminal."
I got 2.6% of the vote and was beaten by all the people who promoted policies of Human rights violation...
Did you remember to include the part where the workers seize the means of production from the industrial bourgeoisie?
Did you remember to include the part where the workers seize the means of production from the industrial bourgeoisie?
Dont You mean: the population sieze control of their fifty million billion in resources that were being plundered for the enrichment of a corrupt executive and the growth of foreign States whose resource share has long expired instead of being used to benifit the indigenous population and the growth of their civilization?
H E A V Y. But so incredibly righteous in every regard.
I just lost my job, and I am deep into debt. Hurray! I am screwed.
Sorry to hear about your job loss. It's tough out there, I know. I've been unemployed since December, fortunately I never had a credit card and either take the bus or walk everywhere, so it's kept costs down. Just keep at it, and hopefully things will get better.
Dont You mean: the population sieze control of their fifty million billion in resources that were being plundered for the enrichment of a corrupt executive and the growth of foreign States whose resource share has long expired instead of being used to benifit the indigenous population and the growth of their civilization?
That is what I do with 80% of my day. But you need to blow off steam and socialize once in a while. It is also good, because you need to keep your brain stimulated. The worst thing to do when you lose a job, is start getting up later, and staying away from things that entertain you. This weekend is special, because it is a holiday. So I am staying with family and posting more than normal. Trust me I am on craigslist, indeed, monster, USA Jobs, the whole lot. And I apply to everything I am qualified to do. But no one has bitten yet. Also been going into offices to speak with human resources people.
Well that is good. Unfortunately, I've seen far too many people that don't do anything about their situation. Hell, I've been guilty of it as well.
But I could afford them till I lost my job. And you honestly need credit cards to do anything these days. We were living within our means, like everyone else. But without monlthy income I missed payments and my interest rates shot up past 29%, and I was hit with fees. I am a smart guy, but those terms and conditions are difficult to understand, in fact they are deliberately hard to understand, and I didn't realize this could happen.
I do disagree with you. You do not NEED a credit card. It is my personal belief that if you use a credit card and carry a balance on it for more than a week, you are living beyond your means. Trust me, I am doing that myself right now. Just scraping by (making payments) isn't living within your means. Now, if you could make the payments even without a job, then you would be living within your means. Once again, this is my belief, as I don't consider credit cards as being a necessity of life, but a way for banks to make extra money. People get carried away with credit cards, and that is what the banks prey on. Blaming credit cards for making you in debt is like blaming McDonalds for making you fat. It absolves any personal responsibility for your actions, and puts blame on someone else so you can hate them rather than hate your self for getting into that situation.
I actually considered getting into acting, because for some reason, there are a lot of acting jobs here all of a sudden. But I think I may not have the mug for it.
Neither does Ron Perlman (the guy who played Hellboy), but he in the early nineties, I do believe, played a lead romantic role - albeit in makeup, on the Beauty and the Beast series with Linda Hamilton. It may be a bit sexist, but guys can get away with not being 'pretty' in Hollywood. You won't get the lead romantic role, but you may get something. Hell, look at Zach Braf from scrubs (J.D.) he's not exactly a great looking guy. The point is if you have the talent and drive you can do it. Don't listen to what other people say. Danny Devito is pretty either, and he had a great career in the 80's and 90's - I think he does more directing now and less acting. If you have a unique look, you'll go farther than looking like everyone else.
I lived my whole life always taking responsibility for my own actions. My father was a randian. So you can imagine, I don't normally put the blame on others. In this case, with the economy like it is, and credit card companies operating the way they do now (remember much of what they are doing now was illegal a decade ago), I think some of my problems are made worse by an unethical (not illegal) financial system and a really bad economy. At a certain point, there just isn't work out there. Which sucks, because I have never had to live off others.
To quote Obi-Wan 'Who's more foolish the fool, or the fool who follows him?' As I've stated above, I don't believe that the credit cards are at fault. Sure they are doing something that is, to you, unethical. But they provide a service not a necessity. The economy sucking does hurt a lot of people, but there are still lots of people with jobs. You should find out what they are doing right, and what you are doing wrong. There is always work - it may not be work that you like, but there is always work. Pride is one of the greatest sins - though some times it will keep you from doing what you have to, say taking a job as a janitor for minimum wage, it can also inspire you to 'go beyond reason and do the impossible' to quote Kamina from Gurren Lagann. Swallow the pride, look for a job doing anything, no matter how humiliating you may think it is. It is a job. It gives you the means to live, survival is the first and foremost drive of any animal, and humans ARE animals. A wolf will chew it's own leg off to escape a trap, humans have that capacity as will. It is in our psyche.
Yoiks! Its Captain Hyperbole...He must have caught on to my insideous plan to make everyone equal.
I do disagree with you. You do not NEED a credit card. It is my personal belief that if you use a credit card and carry a balance on it for more than a week, you are living beyond your means. Trust me, I am doing that myself right now. Just scraping by (making payments) isn't living within your means. Now, if you could make the payments even without a job, then you would be living within your means. Once again, this is my belief, as I don't consider credit cards as being a necessity of life, but a way for banks to make extra money. People get carried away with credit cards, and that is what the banks prey on. Blaming credit cards for making you in debt is like blaming McDonalds for making you fat. It absolves any personal responsibility for your actions, and puts blame on someone else so you can hate them rather than hate your self for getting into that situation.
Man, give the guy a break. He is in dire enough straits as it is, and is here to blow off some steam, not to get a lecture about his spending habits. Plus, he is already in debt, so it seems a little redundant to be chastising him over something that has already happened (it is not as though your lecture could absolve him of his debt).
Yoiks! Its Captain Hyperbole...He must have caught on to my insideous plan to make everyone equal.
Its not the government's job to "make" everyone equal.
FLYNAVY
Yeah the Navy has been good to me too :D nothing beats job security :D
This is the reason I'm going for a degree in Math Education. Once I'm certified to teach, I will never have to worry about finding a job anywhere I feel like going.
Yeah the Navy has been good to me too :D nothing beats job security :D
It was good to me back when I was in.
Since I'm past the age that they'll take me and there is that pesky medical discharge, I don't think that option is open to me.
This is the reason I'm going for a degree in Math Education. Once I'm certified to teach, I will never have to worry about finding a job anywhere I feel like going.
They're laying off teachers in California and not hiring any more here in Iowa. Don't worry though, I hear the corporate sector hires more teachers than the schools do anyway.
Just remember that your union is most likely set up like SMW 162 in Sacramento, in most regards. They will help you get another job quickly. Especially being a apprentice, contractors like having good but less expensive workers for their projects.
I'm non-union. Even if I'm layed off, its a state-run apprenticeship and the school will help me find another job.
And, yes, its likely I still have my job because I make probably half as much as an experienced journeyman. The money is in the labor.
Gogo random luck power?
Gogo random luck power?
Quit hogging it, mate. The rest of the country needs a spot of that.
On a related note, I found myself another patch of dirt to attend to today. A friend called and he wants his garden worked but doesn't want to do it himself. It brings me up to about three quarters of an acre of arable land that I'll be farming over the summer.
With what people are paying for organic foods, I'll be looking at a pretty penny come fall. And if I work the rotation right, I'll be having dinner with a different friend every night on a two-week schedule. It's not paying work, but it'll keep me fed and in the fall I'll have a good harvest to sell. Next year I find someone that wants to raise animals.
Dont You mean: the population sieze control of their fifty million billion in resources that were being plundered for the enrichment of a corrupt executive and the growth of foreign States whose resource share has long expired instead of being used to benifit the indigenous population and the growth of their civilization?
Indeed. As part of the indigenous population, I agree wholeheartedly.
Is it too late to get the forty acres and a mule? You can keep the blankets, though. I remember how that worked out the last time.
Its not the government's job to "make" everyone equal.
Depends on the government and the promises they made. If the government is a true communist (technically a "Marxist" but we'll not get caught up in silly language) government, it is their job to make everyone equal, because that's what they stand for.
It's not a capitalists governments job to make everyone equal.
Really, comeone, someone who is as politically motivated as you should really know enough about thoes diffrent groups to distinguish them, if for no other reason than to have the necessary ammo to shoot them down.
Do your homework man! Hatred is much more potent when properly targeted.
But there is no real fundamental difference between any of those groups. They all really mean the same thing.
Opinion self-edited to prevent thread closure.
Reply self-edited to prevent thread closure.
I had to edit mine because of the likelihood that it would venture too far into politics to make my point and Webster is extremely quick to close threads that even mention anything political.
Sadly, there is a definite line between political socialism and economic socialism that isn't taught in our schools. We in the United States live in a controlled-market, democratic, socialist republic.
If you want to remove the socialist part of our government, you'll have to dig very deep to cut it out. Start with Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Unemployment Insurance and minimum wages. After that, let's start taking away things like speed limits, highways and superhighways, public schools, and the laws protecting consumers. Don't forget the USDA, that part of the government that ensures that the food you eat is safe for human consumption is a part of the socialism that needs to be cut away.
I could go on, but I'm sure I've already pushed beyond the envelope that the VCLs will accept.
Shouldn't be any governments job.
Did you even read my post?
A communist/marxist government's job is to make everyone equal.
Let me repost my post so as to be perfectly clear:
Depends on the government and the promises they made. If the government is a true communist (technically a "Marxist" but we'll not get caught up in silly language) government, it is their job to make everyone equal, because that's what they stand for.
It's not a capitalists governments job to make everyone equal.
Did you even read my post?
A communist/marxist government's job is to make everyone equal.
Let me repost my post so as to be perfectly clear:
Did you even read ANYONES post? We are leaving that topic. Dont be an asshat. Please.
Did you even read ANYONES post? We are leaving that topic. Dont be an asshat. Please.
Getting back to the original topic, I found out yesterday that I am not eligible for unemployment in no uncertain terms. The letter arrived saying so.
Today, however, I got a call asking me if I would consider going back to driving a cab. So tomorrow, I return to the streets doing what I do best.
I don't want to pry, but why couldn't you draw unemployment?
I worked for 13 years as a cab driver but that went wahooni-shaped when the flood ate this city last June. The rules for collecting unemployment are different for self-employed people here in Iowa, so technically I can draw it, but I don't have any money to draw from. Since the last fiscal quarter was the only quarter that qualified for unemployment (regular job), my claim was approved but there's no money to draw off of. According to their calculations, I can draw unemployment benefits starting at the beginning of the next quarter.
Well if you arent in a spot where you HAVE to go...roll into the Air Force or Navy, and make THEM pay for your college :D, the lifestyle sucks but it is worth it.:D
That's a lie. The military isn't going to put anyone through college. I know too many people that went that route and were screwed out of the scholarship. Don't do it, the military can't be trusted.
As for credit card debt, screw'm. Seriously, file a chapter 7 and they legally can't do a damn thing about it.
I fully admit that's unethical, but I think credit companies spending billions to have politicians in their pockets so they can change the laws to allow them to do things that were illegal very recently is unethical, and I don't consider it wrong to swindle thieves.
I got the GI Bill and all that, and I had plenty of money for college. The Army takes care of it's own and it can be a great experience. I know it was for me. Maybe the people you knew... you know... maybe screwed themselves somehow...?
Hater, some people don't pay attention to others when they really should.
The GI bill wasn't automatic when I was in the navy. You had to sign up and have money deducted from your payroll for it. When you used it later, you got more than double what you put in. All said and done, I got quite a bit of milage out of the GI bill, but others may not have paid attention when filing their paperwork (in triplicate, some of the jokes are actually true).
That's a lie. The military isn't going to put anyone through college. I know too many people that went that route and were screwed out of the scholarship. Don't do it, the military can't be trusted.
I have friends from the Marines and the Navy who are getting much of their college tuition paid for by the military.
"Profiting from the destruction and exploitation of others undermines our nation. To that end we must outlaw the Sale of Alcohol and Tobacco while protecting the freedom of Private production for personal use."
Yes, because prohibition helped in such a great way last time we had economic problems.... I mean, it's not like America is a top producer of alchohol or anything.
) can tell me whether its wrong or not for me to drink.Hrm... would you consider it morally/ethically wrong to drink to the point of drunkeness if you were responsbile for a small child that was incapable of looking after itself?
It would probably be ethically/morally wrong to be drunk in that situation. However, you can drink without getting drunk and you can be in an equally incapable state from other things besides alcohol (primarily drugs both legal and illegal come to mind). In my opinion its being in such an incapable state that would be wrong and not the drinking itself.
I see then. You're saying that the act of drinking itself is (almost) never immoral/unethical, but that the state of being drunk when you are supposed be responsible might be unethical/immoral. That's a hazy distinction, as one distinctly leads to the other, but I can see it.
Actually, if you look at his location, you'll understand why his employer tells him not to drink. It takes a split second to go from animal to vegetable where he is and alcohol deadens reaction time.
Arioch... you, sir, are a liar.
I got the GI Bill and all that, and I had plenty of money for college. The Army takes care of it's own and it can be a great experience. I know it was for me. Maybe the people you knew... you know... maybe screwed themselves somehow...?
Don't talk about things as though you actually know what you are talking about... especially if you don't.
Thanks.
I know exactly what I'm talking about, I come from a military family and have had many friends and acquaintances go into the military.
How much was your soul worth, Hater? I am curious in these matters, and want to know how much it cost to have you lie for someone else that couldn't care if you live, die, or grow mushrooms out of your crack.
Now, I'm sure to get flamed for not being one of the 'oh, I'm so sorry, but things will get better' type of posters, but I've found that most people in life blame all their problems on others, rather than admit that they are the ones that screwed things up.
No, we're flaming you for being the "Oh, someone is having a hard time, I'm going to rub salt in his wounds to make it worse, HEE HEE HEE!" type of poster.
You don't know how he's spending his time at all. He may be posting this in a sea of pizza crusts and his own filth, or he could have been up at 5am pounding the pavement, and just now took 5 minutes at a library computer to check out his boards.
It's retarded to think that someone without a job must spend every second of every day finding a job, especially since that's not how it works.
It's retarded to think that someone without a job must spend every second of every day finding a job, especially since that's not how it works.
In my case, I was enjoying a couple weeks off. I made three phone calls the first week and by the end of the second week I had someone call me with a job.
I didn't even put in a single application anywhere. All of my previous employers tend to hope that I'll come up unemployed just so that they can get me back. I've only ever been turned down for a job once in my life and in that case I was one out of 2700 applicants* applying for one of the fourteen open positions.
I know, I'm a bastard.
*I got into the top 100 applicants after enduring three rounds of testing and interviews.
I know exactly what I'm talking about, I come from a military family and have had many friends and acquaintances go into the military.
As someone who also comes from a military family and has had many friends and acquaintances in the military, it doesn't mean a thing.
How much was your soul worth, Hater? I am curious in these matters, and want to know how much it cost to have you lie for someone else that couldn't care if you live, die, or grow mushrooms out of your crack.
Clearly because HATER's first hand experience differs from your second hand experience HATER must be a liar.
It seems your version of reality is a little skewed... you're a liberal aren't you?
Why is it you toss around the word liberal like it's insulting?
There's liberals, conservatives, and undecided. Then there's left wing nutjobs, right wing extremists, and anarchists. The first set isn't so bad. The second, different story.
You know, there are quite a few of us so-called liberals that are quite conservative. We value the continuation of the republic and our personal liberties over anything else. But at times, action has to be taken, no matter how drastic to ensure the prosperity of the whole, rather than just a portion of the republic. As long as those actions don't infringe on the articles set forth in the Bill of Rights, then so be it.
And before my patriotism is questioned, I am a veteran. As was my father before me. And his father before him.
If decent, human charity was practiced, most of the legislative measures to help the less fortunate wouldn't be needed. If people here were more concerned for their fellow man's well-being, there wouldn't be a need for government intervention. Government entitlements are a result of the lack of compassion that has wormed it's way into our societies. The next time someone complains about entitlements, ask them what they've done to teach the virtues that would make them unnecessary.
Gogo random luck power?
Gogo random luck power?
Quit hogging it, mate. The rest of the country needs a spot of that.
On a related note, I found myself another patch of dirt to attend to today. A friend called and he wants his garden worked but doesn't want to do it himself. It brings me up to about three quarters of an acre of arable land that I'll be farming over the summer.
With what people are paying for organic foods, I'll be looking at a pretty penny come fall. And if I work the rotation right, I'll be having dinner with a different friend every night on a two-week schedule. It's not paying work, but it'll keep me fed and in the fall I'll have a good harvest to sell. Next year I find someone that wants to raise animals.
Dont You mean: the population sieze control of their fifty million billion in resources that were being plundered for the enrichment of a corrupt executive and the growth of foreign States whose resource share has long expired instead of being used to benifit the indigenous population and the growth of their civilization?
Indeed. As part of the indigenous population, I agree wholeheartedly.
Is it too late to get the forty acres and a mule? You can keep the blankets, though. I remember how that worked out the last time.
Its not the government's job to "make" everyone equal.
Depends on the government and the promises they made. If the government is a true communist (technically a "Marxist" but we'll not get caught up in silly language) government, it is their job to make everyone equal, because that's what they stand for.
It's not a capitalists governments job to make everyone equal.
Really, comeone, someone who is as politically motivated as you should really know enough about thoes diffrent groups to distinguish them, if for no other reason than to have the necessary ammo to shoot them down.
Do your homework man! Hatred is much more potent when properly targeted.
But there is no real fundamental difference between any of those groups. They all really mean the same thing.
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I had to edit mine because of the likelihood that it would venture too far into politics to make my point and Webster is extremely quick to close threads that even mention anything political.
Sadly, there is a definite line between political socialism and economic socialism that isn't taught in our schools. We in the United States live in a controlled-market, democratic, socialist republic.
If you want to remove the socialist part of our government, you'll have to dig very deep to cut it out. Start with Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Unemployment Insurance and minimum wages. After that, let's start taking away things like speed limits, highways and superhighways, public schools, and the laws protecting consumers. Don't forget the USDA, that part of the government that ensures that the food you eat is safe for human consumption is a part of the socialism that needs to be cut away.
I could go on, but I'm sure I've already pushed beyond the envelope that the VCLs will accept.
Shouldn't be any governments job.
Did you even read my post?
A communist/marxist government's job is to make everyone equal.
Let me repost my post so as to be perfectly clear:
Depends on the government and the promises they made. If the government is a true communist (technically a "Marxist" but we'll not get caught up in silly language) government, it is their job to make everyone equal, because that's what they stand for.
It's not a capitalists governments job to make everyone equal.
Did you even read my post?
A communist/marxist government's job is to make everyone equal.
Let me repost my post so as to be perfectly clear:
Did you even read ANYONES post? We are leaving that topic. Dont be an asshat. Please.
Did you even read ANYONES post? We are leaving that topic. Dont be an asshat. Please.
Getting back to the original topic, I found out yesterday that I am not eligible for unemployment in no uncertain terms. The letter arrived saying so.
Today, however, I got a call asking me if I would consider going back to driving a cab. So tomorrow, I return to the streets doing what I do best.
I don't want to pry, but why couldn't you draw unemployment?
I worked for 13 years as a cab driver but that went wahooni-shaped when the flood ate this city last June. The rules for collecting unemployment are different for self-employed people here in Iowa, so technically I can draw it, but I don't have any money to draw from. Since the last fiscal quarter was the only quarter that qualified for unemployment (regular job), my claim was approved but there's no money to draw off of. According to their calculations, I can draw unemployment benefits starting at the beginning of the next quarter.
Well if you arent in a spot where you HAVE to go...roll into the Air Force or Navy, and make THEM pay for your college :D, the lifestyle sucks but it is worth it.:D
That's a lie. The military isn't going to put anyone through college. I know too many people that went that route and were screwed out of the scholarship. Don't do it, the military can't be trusted.
As for credit card debt, screw'm. Seriously, file a chapter 7 and they legally can't do a damn thing about it.
I fully admit that's unethical, but I think credit companies spending billions to have politicians in their pockets so they can change the laws to allow them to do things that were illegal very recently is unethical, and I don't consider it wrong to swindle thieves.
I got the GI Bill and all that, and I had plenty of money for college. The Army takes care of it's own and it can be a great experience. I know it was for me. Maybe the people you knew... you know... maybe screwed themselves somehow...?
Hater, some people don't pay attention to others when they really should.
The GI bill wasn't automatic when I was in the navy. You had to sign up and have money deducted from your payroll for it. When you used it later, you got more than double what you put in. All said and done, I got quite a bit of milage out of the GI bill, but others may not have paid attention when filing their paperwork (in triplicate, some of the jokes are actually true).
That's a lie. The military isn't going to put anyone through college. I know too many people that went that route and were screwed out of the scholarship. Don't do it, the military can't be trusted.
I have friends from the Marines and the Navy who are getting much of their college tuition paid for by the military.
"Profiting from the destruction and exploitation of others undermines our nation. To that end we must outlaw the Sale of Alcohol and Tobacco while protecting the freedom of Private production for personal use."
Yes, because prohibition helped in such a great way last time we had economic problems.... I mean, it's not like America is a top producer of alchohol or anything.
) can tell me whether its wrong or not for me to drink.Hrm... would you consider it morally/ethically wrong to drink to the point of drunkeness if you were responsbile for a small child that was incapable of looking after itself?
It would probably be ethically/morally wrong to be drunk in that situation. However, you can drink without getting drunk and you can be in an equally incapable state from other things besides alcohol (primarily drugs both legal and illegal come to mind). In my opinion its being in such an incapable state that would be wrong and not the drinking itself.
I see then. You're saying that the act of drinking itself is (almost) never immoral/unethical, but that the state of being drunk when you are supposed be responsible might be unethical/immoral. That's a hazy distinction, as one distinctly leads to the other, but I can see it.
Actually, if you look at his location, you'll understand why his employer tells him not to drink. It takes a split second to go from animal to vegetable where he is and alcohol deadens reaction time.
Arioch... you, sir, are a liar.
I got the GI Bill and all that, and I had plenty of money for college. The Army takes care of it's own and it can be a great experience. I know it was for me. Maybe the people you knew... you know... maybe screwed themselves somehow...?
Don't talk about things as though you actually know what you are talking about... especially if you don't.
Thanks.
I know exactly what I'm talking about, I come from a military family and have had many friends and acquaintances go into the military.
How much was your soul worth, Hater? I am curious in these matters, and want to know how much it cost to have you lie for someone else that couldn't care if you live, die, or grow mushrooms out of your crack.
Now, I'm sure to get flamed for not being one of the 'oh, I'm so sorry, but things will get better' type of posters, but I've found that most people in life blame all their problems on others, rather than admit that they are the ones that screwed things up.
No, we're flaming you for being the "Oh, someone is having a hard time, I'm going to rub salt in his wounds to make it worse, HEE HEE HEE!" type of poster.
You don't know how he's spending his time at all. He may be posting this in a sea of pizza crusts and his own filth, or he could have been up at 5am pounding the pavement, and just now took 5 minutes at a library computer to check out his boards.
It's retarded to think that someone without a job must spend every second of every day finding a job, especially since that's not how it works.
It's retarded to think that someone without a job must spend every second of every day finding a job, especially since that's not how it works.
In my case, I was enjoying a couple weeks off. I made three phone calls the first week and by the end of the second week I had someone call me with a job.
I didn't even put in a single application anywhere. All of my previous employers tend to hope that I'll come up unemployed just so that they can get me back. I've only ever been turned down for a job once in my life and in that case I was one out of 2700 applicants* applying for one of the fourteen open positions.
I know, I'm a bastard.
*I got into the top 100 applicants after enduring three rounds of testing and interviews.
I know exactly what I'm talking about, I come from a military family and have had many friends and acquaintances go into the military.
As someone who also comes from a military family and has had many friends and acquaintances in the military, it doesn't mean a thing.
How much was your soul worth, Hater? I am curious in these matters, and want to know how much it cost to have you lie for someone else that couldn't care if you live, die, or grow mushrooms out of your crack.
Clearly because HATER's first hand experience differs from your second hand experience HATER must be a liar.
It seems your version of reality is a little skewed... you're a liberal aren't you?
Why is it you toss around the word liberal like it's insulting?
There's liberals, conservatives, and undecided. Then there's left wing nutjobs, right wing extremists, and anarchists. The first set isn't so bad. The second, different story.
You know, there are quite a few of us so-called liberals that are quite conservative. We value the continuation of the republic and our personal liberties over anything else. But at times, action has to be taken, no matter how drastic to ensure the prosperity of the whole, rather than just a portion of the republic. As long as those actions don't infringe on the articles set forth in the Bill of Rights, then so be it.
And before my patriotism is questioned, I am a veteran. As was my father before me. And his father before him.
If decent, human charity was practiced, most of the legislative measures to help the less fortunate wouldn't be needed. If people here were more concerned for their fellow man's well-being, there wouldn't be a need for government intervention. Government entitlements are a result of the lack of compassion that has wormed it's way into our societies. The next time someone complains about entitlements, ask them what they've done to teach the virtues that would make them unnecessary.