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Just a small matter, but your friend got Crusoe cancelled

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#1
terronus
Dec 22, 2008 0:46:55 So, for those of us that need a 'fantasy' fix, I thought NBCs Crusoe turned out to be a fun, if not well made, entertaining show. Watched it every week.

Did you guys know you could watch it online at NBC.com at your leisure??? And that has some effect whether a show is canceled, because it is considered in its ratings?

You couldn't spare 45 minutes at your preference, not a time slot (because there are only 2:30 min of commercials) to watch it?

Well. Lets hope Dollhouse (although its mostly scifi-ish) is as good as Buffy, and draws in a little of Joss Whedon's concepts of fantasy.

Let me also note, this factors into other great shows.

For those of you who liked Pushing Daisies it is another show I'm sad to lose.

Lastly... I'm sorry I had to vent, I'm sad to see this show to leave.
#2
_jayne_cobb_
Dec 22, 2008 8:56:58 Online, TiVO and other viewing methods are not counted in a program's ratings.
#3
batshido
Dec 22, 2008 9:34:51
Did you guys know you could watch it online at NBC.com at your leisure??? And that has some effect whether a show is canceled, because it is considered in its ratings?

You couldn't spare 45 minutes at your preference, not a time slot (because there are only 2:30 min of commercials) to watch it?

Well there's your problem.

NBC doesn't count online views into their ratings. If you want it to count, watch it at broadcast, and find some way to be a Neilson rat.
#4
terronus
Dec 22, 2008 10:15:16 OK, not ratings, I used the wrong word.

But its what ABC to really get behind the producers of Lost, and in part accounted for that shows success, as well as Fox getting behind his new show Fringe. 24 is another example of a show that had a lot of success based on online views.

I'll pull up the article on the and guess I should cite some sources before I start rambling. :P

Edit:Online views are definitely taken into account by NBC producers, I would think, which is why they started supplementing their biggest shows like the Office, Heroes, and Chuck with little 'webisodes' online.
#5
batshido
Dec 22, 2008 12:12:11
OK, not ratings, I used the wrong word.

But its what ABC to really get behind the producers of Lost, and in part accounted for that shows success, as well as Fox getting behind his new show Fringe. 24 is another example of a show that had a lot of success based on online views.

I'll pull up the article on the and guess I should cite some sources before I start rambling. :P

Edit:Online views are definitely taken into account by NBC producers, I would think, which is why they started supplementing their biggest shows like the Office, Heroes, and Chuck with little 'webisodes' online.

Shows are presented online as a way of maintaining small revenue streams from properties that can't feasibly be on all the time and to hook viewers into a show so they'll watch it at it's normal airing time or keep caught up so that they don't drop it altogether. They're not generally viewed on any real level as being equivalent to broadcast viewings, at least not from any of the stuff that I've seen.
#6
consul_vido
Dec 22, 2008 12:28:15 I don't watch TV. Or rather I didn't, until I happened to be fixing dinner one evening while my family watched Pushing Daisies and I thought it was a great show. So I had to start watching it, at first on ABC.com and later on TV. I only recently learned that Pushing Daisies got the axe. I knew it was in jeopardy, but had hoped things would pick up for them, as I was a big fan of the show. I will treasure these last episodes we have together.

Now all I have left is Big Bang Theory. If I lose that, I'll probably go back to no TV again.

Farscape and Firefly, I still love you and think of you often.
#7
terronus
Dec 22, 2008 13:08:25
Firefly, I still love you and think of you often.

At least there was closure when Serenity came out.
#8
terronus
Dec 22, 2008 13:11:43
Shows are presented online as a way of maintaining small revenue streams from properties that can't feasibly be on all the time and to hook viewers into a show so they'll watch it at it's normal airing time or keep caught up so that they don't drop it altogether. They're not generally viewed on any real level as being equivalent to broadcast viewings, at least not from any of the stuff that I've seen.

I agree with this for the most part. I believe online shows are supplemental to traditional television, but are more valuable than you might initially think. I'm still trying to dig up some of my old sources/statistics that I did for a film class, but of course all my stuff is out of whack cause of the holidays.
#9
batshido
Dec 22, 2008 14:49:45
At least there was closure when Serenity came out.

Too much closure, unfortunately.

Whedon spent some time petitioning for a second movie, but it never materialized. At least we've got the comics.

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#1 terronus Dec 22, 2008 0:46:55	So, for those of us that need a 'fantasy' fix, I thought NBCs Crusoe turned out to be a fun, if not well made, entertaining show. Watched it every week. Did you guys know you could watch it online at NBC.com at your leisure??? And that has some effect whether a show is canceled, because it is considered in its ratings? You couldn't spare 45 minutes at your preference, not a time slot (because there are only 2:30 min of commercials) to watch it? Well. Lets hope Dollhouse (although its mostly scifi-ish) is as good as Buffy, and draws in a little of Joss Whedon's concepts of fantasy. Let me also note, this factors into other great shows. For those of you who liked Pushing Daisies it is another show I'm sad to lose. Lastly... I'm sorry I had to vent, I'm sad to see this show to leave.
#2 _jayne_cobb_ Dec 22, 2008 8:56:58	Online, TiVO and other viewing methods are not counted in a program's ratings.
#3 batshido Dec 22, 2008 9:34:51	Did you guys know you could watch it online at NBC.com at your leisure??? And that has some effect whether a show is canceled, because it is considered in its ratings? You couldn't spare 45 minutes at your preference, not a time slot (because there are only 2:30 min of commercials) to watch it? Well there's your problem. NBC doesn't count online views into their ratings. If you want it to count, watch it at broadcast, and find some way to be a Neilson rat.
#4 terronus Dec 22, 2008 10:15:16	OK, not ratings, I used the wrong word. But its what ABC to really get behind the producers of Lost, and in part accounted for that shows success, as well as Fox getting behind his new show Fringe. 24 is another example of a show that had a lot of success based on online views. I'll pull up the article on the and guess I should cite some sources before I start rambling. :P Edit:Online views are definitely taken into account by NBC producers, I would think, which is why they started supplementing their biggest shows like the Office, Heroes, and Chuck with little 'webisodes' online.
#5 batshido Dec 22, 2008 12:12:11	OK, not ratings, I used the wrong word. But its what ABC to really get behind the producers of Lost, and in part accounted for that shows success, as well as Fox getting behind his new show Fringe. 24 is another example of a show that had a lot of success based on online views. I'll pull up the article on the and guess I should cite some sources before I start rambling. :P Edit:Online views are definitely taken into account by NBC producers, I would think, which is why they started supplementing their biggest shows like the Office, Heroes, and Chuck with little 'webisodes' online. Shows are presented online as a way of maintaining small revenue streams from properties that can't feasibly be on all the time and to hook viewers into a show so they'll watch it at it's normal airing time or keep caught up so that they don't drop it altogether. They're not generally viewed on any real level as being equivalent to broadcast viewings, at least not from any of the stuff that I've seen.
#6 consul_vido Dec 22, 2008 12:28:15	I don't watch TV. Or rather I didn't, until I happened to be fixing dinner one evening while my family watched Pushing Daisies and I thought it was a great show. So I had to start watching it, at first on ABC.com and later on TV. I only recently learned that Pushing Daisies got the axe. I knew it was in jeopardy, but had hoped things would pick up for them, as I was a big fan of the show. I will treasure these last episodes we have together. Now all I have left is Big Bang Theory. If I lose that, I'll probably go back to no TV again. Farscape and Firefly, I still love you and think of you often.
#7 terronus Dec 22, 2008 13:08:25	Firefly, I still love you and think of you often. At least there was closure when Serenity came out.
#8 terronus Dec 22, 2008 13:11:43	Shows are presented online as a way of maintaining small revenue streams from properties that can't feasibly be on all the time and to hook viewers into a show so they'll watch it at it's normal airing time or keep caught up so that they don't drop it altogether. They're not generally viewed on any real level as being equivalent to broadcast viewings, at least not from any of the stuff that I've seen. I agree with this for the most part. I believe online shows are supplemental to traditional television, but are more valuable than you might initially think. I'm still trying to dig up some of my old sources/statistics that I did for a film class, but of course all my stuff is out of whack cause of the holidays.
#9 batshido Dec 22, 2008 14:49:45	At least there was closure when Serenity came out. Too much closure, unfortunately. Whedon spent some time petitioning for a second movie, but it never materialized. At least we've got the comics.